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Oct 22 03:51:37 <rano> hi everyone, may I ask a Moonie question?
Oct 22 03:51:50 <rano> heh I ment noobie
Oct 22 03:53:14 <dwc-> sure
Oct 22 03:53:28 <dwc-> if you're lucky, one of us other noobies might even know the answer ;)
Oct 22 03:53:52 <scoutcamper> ~asktoask
Oct 22 03:53:52 <infobot> This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
Oct 22 03:55:35 <rano> wicked! Thanks! K, in prepare I only see about 500 available files, I could only find one kernel/ am I doing something wrong?
Oct 22 03:56:33 <scoutcamper> rano, what device model and webos version?
Oct 22 03:57:04 <rano> to 32gb and 3.0.2
Oct 22 03:57:12 <rano> to I ment
Oct 22 03:57:33 <rano> still not used to type on the touchpad
Oct 22 03:57:37 <scoutcamper> running 3.0.2?
Oct 22 03:57:42 <scoutcamper> interesting
Oct 22 03:57:59 <rano> yep
Oct 22 03:58:09 <dwc-> that's what I got =[
Oct 22 03:58:12 <dwc-> =p
Oct 22 03:58:34 <dwc-> 2 kernels... uber and recovery
Oct 22 03:58:46 <rano> I'm using uber
Oct 22 03:59:48 <rano> there are supposed to be others out there rite?
Oct 22 04:00:04 <dwc-> not in the main feeds
Oct 22 04:01:19 <rano> hmm so how does one get them? Have to add feeds?
Oct 22 04:01:54 <dwc-> yep
Oct 22 04:02:30 <wrea> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
Oct 22 04:03:15 <rano> uuuuuuuu heh, le sigh
Oct 22 04:03:36 <rano> cool thanks a lot?
Oct 22 04:03:42 <rano> !
Oct 22 04:41:43 <actionfigure> dwc-: hiya :)
Oct 22 04:49:13 <dwc-> hi
Oct 22 04:52:16 <actionfigure> how goes it
Oct 22 05:16:38 <dwc-> fine. you?
Oct 22 05:20:24 <actionfigure> good
Oct 22 05:35:07 <lisurgec> hello :o
Oct 22 05:36:12 <lisurgec> someone think they can give me a push with metadoctor?
Oct 22 05:50:30 <PatrickC> lisurgec: what you need help with?
Oct 22 07:08:27 <meddi> Hi, Looking for app to remove touchscreen ripple, can't find it anywhere
Oct 22 07:08:56 <meddi> and app to remove screen lock
Oct 22 07:31:02 <meddi> thanks, i have and still unable to locate either one
Oct 22 07:31:39 <lisurgec> did you just update to 3.0.4
Oct 22 07:36:45 <meddi> yes i did
Oct 22 07:38:36 <lisurgec> looks like everything is being moved over still =\
Oct 22 07:39:28 <meddi> ok thanks for that help much appreciated
Oct 22 07:41:00 <lisurgec> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
Oct 22 07:41:09 <lisurgec> you could try doing that to update the feeds.
Oct 22 07:41:19 <lisurgec> see if they're in the testing repos
Oct 22 07:51:09 <lisurgec> SPOILER ALERT: they aren't in the testing feeds.
Oct 22 07:51:37 <lisurgec> i'll look into it tomorrow night when i have more time, it's probably a config file tweak somewhere.
Oct 22 08:09:11 <Shibi> Greetings, are the preware feeds down by any chance?
Oct 22 08:52:47 <ryder> can some1 help me pls, my preware is stuck at scan can't get into it at [reading saved pcked]
Oct 22 08:53:36 <rwhitby> something in 3.0.4 has caused that.  uninstall and reinstall has worked for most people
Oct 22 08:55:47 <ryder> and how yo do that? Sorry I'm new at this
Oct 22 08:56:42 <rwhitby> uninstall from inside Preware.  http://bit.ly/phd-ac to reinstall
Oct 22 09:00:54 <ryder> think you Let me try it  tanto  u                                                     y
Oct 22 11:21:53 <technikfreak_> Hallo j cant Run apt onxternm anymore
Oct 22 11:22:28 <technikfreak_> whatbcould be the problem
Oct 22 11:33:37 <technikfreak_> mh
Oct 22 12:04:03 <rwhitby> apt has never worked in xterm.
Oct 22 12:04:33 <rwhitby> xterm is a command line to the linux underneath webOS, which does not contain apt.
Oct 22 13:32:28 <klox> hey all, I'm having some trouble installing the webos sdk on fedora 15
Oct 22 13:32:43 <klox> i keep getting an error saying i need virtualbox 4.0, but i've got 4.1 installed
Oct 22 13:32:50 <klox> anyone familiar with that problem?
Oct 22 13:33:17 <owa> yes
Oct 22 13:33:22 <owa> then you need vb 4.0 not 4.1
Oct 22 13:33:26 <klox> lol
Oct 22 13:33:31 <owa> its an obvious flaw, yes
Oct 22 13:33:36 <owa> anyhow why use fedora?
Oct 22 13:33:40 <owa> and not debian/ubuntu ?
Oct 22 13:33:49 <klox> just interested in working on something different
Oct 22 13:33:56 <klox> been using ubuntu for 2 years and wanted a change
Oct 22 13:35:17 <klox1> oops disconnected myself
Oct 22 13:35:34 <klox1> yeah, just switched from ubuntu this week for really no reason at all :)
Oct 22 15:43:06 <actionfigure> :)
Oct 22 15:43:37 <actionfigure> does anyone know of a great music program to sync with pre+?  im on linux
Oct 22 15:43:48 <actionfigure> rhythmbox and amarok doesnt seem to work
Oct 22 16:45:15 <AStice> Is there a way to have two different patch files for different webOS versions under the same patch name? I'm updating my patch for 3.0.4 and wanted to make a slight tweak that works better for 3.0.4 but doesn't work for 2.x and below.
Oct 22 17:12:47 <ka6sox> AStice, I'm pretty sure that works...we have versions of patches for 2.X devices and different ones for 3.X devices
Oct 22 17:15:04 <AStice> How do I do it? Just submit an update and tag the update as being compatible with only certain webOS versions?
Oct 22 17:15:43 <ka6sox> I think thats how its done.
Oct 22 17:16:01 <ka6sox> and the patch portal only tries to apply it to the appropriate versions.
Oct 22 17:16:35 <AStice> That's smart. If only the app catalog worked that way.
Oct 22 17:18:46 <AStice> Well, I already submitted the old patch again to update compatibility with 3.0.4, so I'll put together my new patches (need one for 1.x, 2.x and 3.x) and resubmit after it goes through. Thanks for the info
Oct 22 17:23:54 <ajay__> ta
Oct 22 17:32:59 <YeahRight> can i save the Saved Package List in preware to a file somehow?
Oct 22 17:37:50 <dwc-> I think the save/restore app does
Oct 22 17:38:17 <dwc-> but my device is over there --------> or I'd check for you
Oct 22 17:48:52 <jtrucks> so I removed all the patches that didn't appear t be working post-update, and now I'm attempting to re-apply some of them... not sure if they will work unless the versions are updated to 3.0.4 though... can anyone calrify that?
Oct 22 17:49:10 * jtrucks restarts preware
Oct 22 17:49:29 <jtrucks> hmm
Oct 22 17:49:32 <jtrucks> I'll reboot first.
Oct 22 18:07:32 <ka6sox> jtrucks, some patches haven't been certified for 3.0.4 or haven't been updated for it yet
Oct 22 18:07:51 <ka6sox> @webosinternals has tweeted about that :D
Oct 22 18:08:45 <jtrucks> after a restart I can see that.
Oct 22 18:08:49 <jtrucks> I don't do the twitters
Oct 22 18:09:05 <jtrucks> I just manually lowered all logging levels. perhaps that's enough.
Oct 22 18:09:15 <ka6sox> since I"m not a patchmeister I dont' know much about this thing....other than it is made of flashpaper held up with matches.
Oct 22 18:09:36 <fr0ggie> I wish palmdroid would hurry up
Oct 22 18:09:51 <fr0ggie> i quite like webOS
Oct 22 18:10:03 <jtrucks> i love webos
Oct 22 18:10:09 <jtrucks> what is palmdroid doing?
Oct 22 18:10:11 <ka6sox> fr0ggie, many of us here do not share that view...we like webOS.
Oct 22 18:10:46 <ka6sox> and have invested hundreds of hours to making it the best we can.
Oct 22 18:11:03 <fr0ggie> ka6sox: palmdroid runs android crap as a card
Oct 22 18:11:05 <jtrucks> I want to see webos thrive. it's awesome.
Oct 22 18:11:11 <jtrucks> oooh video is usable now!
Oct 22 18:11:19 <fr0ggie> Therefore, its pretty interesting to me
Oct 22 18:11:29 <fr0ggie> I dont want to replace webOS (see also cyanogenmod port)
Oct 22 18:12:02 <jtrucks> ahhh so it's an andrid app interpreter?
Oct 22 18:12:13 <fr0ggie> Yea, its android apps in a card, on top of the lovely webOS
Oct 22 18:12:17 <fr0ggie> Not replacing webOS
Oct 22 18:12:19 <jtrucks> neat.
Oct 22 18:12:32 <fr0ggie> Yea, it seems kinda dead, sadly except for getting dalvim to run
Oct 22 18:12:39 <fr0ggie> I *hate* android, however, i want netflix :P
Oct 22 18:12:44 <ka6sox> fr0ggie, now thats a KEWL idea :D
Oct 22 18:12:46 <jtrucks> yeah
Oct 22 18:12:49 <jtrucks> netflix and huluy.
Oct 22 18:12:51 <jtrucks> that woud ro
Oct 22 18:12:52 <jtrucks> ck
Oct 22 18:12:55 <hiddenpremise> that sounds fantastic, is there a good reference for it other than the xda-developers forum?
Oct 22 18:13:19 <fr0ggie> hiddenpremise: It seems dead, #palmdroid is highly inactive, but maybe you guys could help them (thus why i bring it up)
Oct 22 18:13:20 <ka6sox> xda-developers is NOT good reference IMHO.
Oct 22 18:13:36 <fr0ggie> I think its a much better approach than replacing webOS with a pile of shit like android
Oct 22 18:14:30 <hiddenpremise> yeah, there is a post on precentral saying the project has been cancelled though http://forums.precentral.net/other-tablets/293560-official-palmdroid-development-thread-android-app-emulator-webos.html
Oct 22 18:15:51 <ka6sox> the primary issue is that a kernel would have to be fashioned to take care of the needs of both Android and webOS...and that isn't easy
Oct 22 18:16:45 <jtrucks> damn. drop packet logging patch not updated.
Oct 22 18:16:54 <jtrucks> if only I knew where to fix that on the os :P
Oct 22 18:17:15 <jtrucks> cuz some video is still choppy :(
Oct 22 18:17:24 <ka6sox> jtrucks, who is the author?
Oct 22 18:18:39 <jtrucks> not sure... I'll see if I can find it on the site since in preware it's not displaying (due to version issues I suspect)
Oct 22 18:19:04 <ka6sox> look @ teh 3.0.2 one and that is stil there.
Oct 22 18:20:26 <ka6sox> yes, patch portal is version specific
Oct 22 18:22:29 <jtrucks> listed as "webos internals"
Oct 22 18:23:19 <jtrucks> is there a way to see the files in the patch?
Oct 22 18:23:54 * jtrucks is digging around on the site
Oct 22 18:23:58 <john291> Hi
Oct 22 18:24:46 <john291> I am trying to bypass the activation on my Hp Veer, can anyone help me?
Oct 22 19:53:13 <anonymous>  hello
Oct 22 19:53:33 <Guest56203> somebody tell me whaat
Oct 22 19:53:56 <Guest56203> TCP congestion is
Oct 22 19:54:04 <Guest56203> please
Oct 22 20:03:10 <dtzWill> lol?
Oct 22 20:04:04 <dtzWill> sorry just a)lmgfty and b)strange question to see here, heh
Oct 22 21:32:50 <stbuehler> can someone tell me the device description for the rear camera on a pre3?
Oct 23 00:51:59 <klox1> Hey all, i've been trying to connect to my touchpad for the better part of the day, but I haven't been able to solve an issue with libusb libraries
Oct 23 00:52:07 <klox1> anyone familiar with that?
Oct 23 01:36:55 <klox1> Anyone know which libusb library to use for Fedora 15? I think I've tried every singe one from http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/3/srodzaj/1/search/libusb-0.1.so.4%28%29%2864bit%29
Oct 23 01:37:18 <klox1> not sure what else to try, i keep getting the USB error from the webOS fedora wiki
Oct 23 01:45:19 <ajay> howdy
Oct 23 01:45:47 <ajay> wondering if anyone that tried to get skype running on pre-pre3 devices is around?
Oct 23 01:45:57 <ajay> (by pre i mean previous/prior to .. :)
Oct 23 01:46:32 <ajay> or just any packaging wizards altogether
Oct 23 02:10:36 <MerlinMM> Having trouble getting Facebook account hooked back up to chat app.  anyone know of general issue these days or is it just me?  Already tried changing talk.google.com to ip of chat.facebook.com from ping in /etc/hosts...
Oct 23 02:12:57 <ajay> gah, took depends: skypem out of the ipk, and it still.. depends.
Oct 23 02:19:50 <ajay> ok me go now
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