**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 23 02:59:57 2011
Oct 23 06:00:29 <dwc-> if only. chuck norris could make new webos devices :p
Oct 23 06:00:30 <dwc-> oops
Oct 23 06:09:45 <wrea> lol
Oct 23 10:42:50 <tammyk> Does anyone know if the layer of glass above the touch screen of the veer is replaceable? My screen is thoroughly cracked but the touchscreen is entirely functional.
Oct 23 13:23:56 <Darkmagister> hi all again, i'm a new touchpad customer :) now i have a touchpad and a pre3, i have same profile on both and bluetooth pairined as phone, but touch to share doesn't work, anyone can helpme ??
Oct 23 14:53:49 <Frost> hm.. wasn't there someone in here asking about the sdk on fedora the other day?
Oct 23 16:11:48 <gomaaz> hi there
Oct 23 17:01:39 <technikfreak2> hello i could not start on xserver apt-get and similar things anymore
Oct 23 17:01:45 <technikfreak2> it says command not found
Oct 23 17:02:21 <dtzWill> technikfreak2: are you launching the chroot not xterm?
Oct 23 17:03:14 <technikfreak2> if i open chroot, there i can"t do anyhtring
Oct 23 17:03:24 <technikfreak2> on xecutah i see only xterm, xserver and vncviewer
Oct 23 17:04:08 <dtzWill> technikfreak2: well idk anything about vncviewer, xecutah shouldn't list xserver as of... good while ago and xterm never would've given you an env you could run apt-get from :/
Oct 23 17:04:30 <dtzWill> presumably vncviewer is some chroot-based thing, given what you're saying? (idk)
Oct 23 17:04:57 <technikfreak2> yeagh thats works but how could i have access than to linux console as before
Oct 23 17:05:32 <dtzWill> technikfreak2: I don't mean to be difficult, but xterm /is/ a linux terminal
Oct 23 17:05:57 <technikfreak2> yeah and there i can't do the apt-get command it don"t works
Oct 23 17:05:59 <dtzWill> having apt-get means you're in some chroot (webos has no apt-get)
Oct 23 17:06:41 <technikfreak2> ah
Oct 23 17:07:19 <dtzWill> the "anymore" suggests some kind of regression. what did you used to do that doesn't work now?
Oct 23 17:12:41 <ice8lue> heyho
Oct 23 17:13:04 <ice8lue> is there a way to change the language of the ubuntu chroot?
Oct 23 17:13:46 <ice8lue> or set the keyboard lang? all osk's i try just show random letters and signs, not the real letters
Oct 23 17:22:08 <ice8lue> nobody?
Oct 23 17:51:33 <Darkmagister> hi all again, i'm a new touchpad customer :) now i have a touchpad and a pre3, i have same profile on both and bluetooth pairined as phone, but touch to share doesn't work, anyone can helpme ??
Oct 23 18:07:17 <ajay> the install_wifi_profiles option doesn't make it possible to use a non-installed WiFi device during activation, correct?  Is there any patches to allow a selectable wifi portal? (a la TP!)
Oct 23 18:29:02 <ajay> alrighty then
Oct 23 19:09:31 <hptouchpaduser12> Hi
Oct 23 19:09:36 <hptouchpaduser12> any1 home?
Oct 23 19:09:46 <hptouchpaduser12> I need help urgently
Oct 23 19:09:52 <hptouchpaduser12> with my touchpad please :(
Oct 23 19:22:10 <hptouchpaduser12> hi
Oct 23 19:22:43 <dwc-> ~asktoask
Oct 23 19:22:59 <dwc-> ask your question, and perhaps someone will know the answer
Oct 23 19:34:19 <hptouchpaduser12> ok
Oct 23 19:34:23 <hptouchpaduser12> I cant add any custom feeds
Oct 23 19:34:29 <hptouchpaduser12> in preware
Oct 23 19:34:55 <hptouchpaduser12> it says the instructions you are following are obsolete.
Oct 23 19:35:08 <hptouchpaduser12> I cant find any fix for thing :'(
Oct 23 19:38:39 <harpo1> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
Oct 23 19:42:31 <hptouchpaduser12> man that is no help
Oct 23 19:42:45 <hptouchpaduser12> I enabled the alpha and beta testing feeds
Oct 23 19:42:55 <hptouchpaduser12> still cant add the custom feeds in preware
Oct 23 19:44:35 <dtzWill> hptouchpaduser12: what feed(s) are you adding that give you that error?
Oct 23 19:46:02 <hptouchpaduser12> the webos-testing-all
Oct 23 19:46:07 <harpo1> hptouchpaduser12: next time specify which feeds your talking about.  Your problem is usually associated with people trying to add the old test feeds.
Oct 23 19:46:09 <hptouchpaduser12> and webos-testing-armv7
Oct 23 19:46:32 <hptouchpaduser12> im trying to overclock my touchpad
Oct 23 19:49:31 <hptouchpaduser12> so what are the new feeds, needed to overclock?
Oct 23 19:51:00 <harpo1> did you reboot your tp completely after installing the alpha and beta test feeds?
Oct 23 19:51:59 <harpo1> did you turn the test feeds on in preware?
Oct 23 19:53:58 <hptouchpaduser12> oh
Oct 23 19:54:01 <hptouchpaduser12> lol no
Oct 23 19:54:12 <hptouchpaduser12> didnt turn the testing feeds on :P
Oct 23 19:54:17 <hptouchpaduser12> im stupid :P
Oct 23 19:54:22 <harpo1> that would do it.
Oct 23 19:54:58 <harpo1> That's why I posted that link.  Make sure you read it again.
Oct 23 19:55:59 <hptouchpaduser12> ok sry :(
Oct 23 19:56:06 <harpo1> np
Oct 23 19:56:20 <dtzWill> hptouchpaduser12: yeah those are the old feeds, bro
Oct 23 19:56:24 <hptouchpaduser12> I just put cynogen mod7
Oct 23 19:56:35 <hptouchpaduser12> and booted up cynogen mod7
Oct 23 19:56:41 <dtzWill> and that's what the error is telling you--you're using outdated instructions if you're trying to add anything called 'webos-testing-all'
Oct 23 19:56:53 <hptouchpaduser12> so how do i boot back to webos?
Oct 23 19:57:37 * dtzWill doesn't know
Oct 23 19:57:40 <harpo1> people on this channel don't talk about dual boot devices
Oct 23 19:58:21 <hptouchpaduser12> ah
Oct 23 19:58:23 <hptouchpaduser12> its ok
Oct 23 19:58:30 <dtzWill> yeah you're probably better off asking in a different channel, sorry :)
Oct 23 19:58:31 <hptouchpaduser12> I will google it ;)
Oct 23 19:58:35 <hptouchpaduser12> thanks for help btw
Oct 23 19:58:42 <harpo1> np
Oct 23 20:00:45 <harpo1> I see this same behavior with phones, people get them and dive right into modding them without reading, rereading then reading again before starting.  They always run into problems.
Oct 23 20:07:14 <hptouchpaduser12> YAY!
Oct 23 20:07:20 <hptouchpaduser12> got a dual boot touchpad
Oct 23 20:07:32 <hptouchpaduser12> with overclock working in webos :D:D:D:D
Oct 23 20:09:07 <Soruk> Congratulations
Oct 23 20:11:40 <oldtopman> How do I get preware working on my 3.0.4 TouchPad?
Oct 23 20:11:59 <oldtopman> It just hangs at "reading package list"
Oct 23 20:12:46 <oldtopman> ofc, it works as soon as I ask >.>
Oct 23 20:15:55 <hptouchpaduser12> lol'd ^^
Oct 23 20:17:22 * EricBlade idly wonders if it's possible to get the webos kernel to boot anywhere near as fast as cm's does
Oct 23 20:24:11 <hptouchpaduser12> holy shit
Oct 23 20:24:16 <hptouchpaduser12> Igot quadrant score
Oct 23 20:24:25 <hptouchpaduser12> of 2935!
Oct 23 20:24:31 <hptouchpaduser12> on my touchpad
Oct 23 20:24:45 <hptouchpaduser12> almost 3000
Oct 23 20:25:01 <hptouchpaduser12> overclocked in android to 1.7ghz
Oct 23 20:25:02 <hptouchpaduser12> :P
Oct 23 20:26:12 <hptouchpaduser12> ok i did the test again and got 3348 as quadrant score!
Oct 23 20:27:49 <hptouchpaduser12> I am in love with HP touchpad!
Oct 23 20:33:53 <gomaaz> somebody has a veer with preware installed?
Oct 23 20:34:31 <dwc-> I do
Oct 23 20:34:42 <dtzWill> gomaaz: same :)
Oct 23 20:34:44 <dwc-> and you're in luck, I actually have it out of the box, turned on, and in front of me.
Oct 23 20:35:10 <dtzWill> mine's dead and in my car.  and somehow after installing a kernel it seems to be running at some dear-god-no frequency that makes it unusable.
Oct 23 20:35:21 <gomaaz> which advantages do i have with preware exactly?
Oct 23 20:35:25 <dtzWill> (for now, assume it's 100% my fault, ^.^, but regardless phone isn't particularly usable until i have a chance to fix it)
Oct 23 20:35:36 * dwc- is trying to decide whether the 1 free app for veer owners is worth logging the pre2 out of the palm profile to get the free app on the main profile, not the dev profile
Oct 23 20:35:59 <dwc-> access to homebrew and other apps not in the official app catalog
Oct 23 20:36:09 <gomaaz> thats nice
Oct 23 20:36:15 <dwc-> well, easy access I should say
Oct 23 20:36:36 <dwc-> you don't -need- preware but it is handy
Oct 23 20:37:15 <gomaaz> app catalogue is pretty small if you compare appstore or android market
Oct 23 20:37:26 <gomaaz> so it would be nice to have some 3rd party software
Oct 23 20:37:49 <dtzWill> gomaaz: patches are rather useful, lets you customize your device--which can include things like performance improvements and the lke
Oct 23 20:38:17 <gomaaz> heard about overclocking
Oct 23 20:38:23 <dtzWill> also, improved kernels for overclocking --yeah
Oct 23 20:38:29 <gomaaz> is it realisable with preware and….is it worth to do that?
Oct 23 20:40:12 <dtzWill> that's up to you--but my /personal/ experience has been to install uberkernel on every device i own and run it a reasonable OC profile, usually whateer govnah has on hand
Oct 23 20:40:18 <dtzWill> and that's served me well
Oct 23 20:40:35 <gomaaz> ok
Oct 23 20:40:44 <gomaaz> I wonder if there is a better browser for webOS on preware shop
Oct 23 20:40:53 <dtzWill> but "this may break your device", etc, i believe are standard warnings there
Oct 23 20:42:26 <gomaaz> freetether would be interesting
Oct 23 20:42:54 <gomaaz> or "mobile hotspot" whether is the best
Oct 23 20:43:11 <steffen-> freetether is much better
Oct 23 21:08:25 <ohhmaar> hello
Oct 23 21:39:14 <Darkmagister>  hi all again, i'm a new touchpad customer :) now i have a touchpad and a pre3, i have same profile on both and bluetooth pairined as phone, but touch to share doesn't work, anyone can helpme ??
Oct 23 21:50:41 <ajay> Darkmagister: I don't think that's quite a webos-internals-style question..
Oct 23 21:50:51 <ajay> it's a tricky thing, that TTS (from the lmtd exp i have with it)
Oct 23 21:51:48 <Darkmagister> yes i know but here there are a lot of webos user and a lot of capable people ;)
Oct 23 21:54:11 <Darkmagister> let me try also in webos channel
Oct 23 21:58:38 <biosed> hey guys, quick question on xterm via xecutah, is there ab
Oct 23 21:58:39 <ka6sox> Darkmagister, that is a good question.
Oct 23 21:58:59 <ka6sox> biosed, ab?
Oct 23 21:59:10 <biosed> …any way to use the tab key, it seems to just print "9" when I use it
Oct 23 21:59:28 <dtzWill> biosed: that's fixed in beta feeds, should be pushing to stable feeds soon
Oct 23 21:59:32 <ka6sox> there is a page on how to use that.
Oct 23 21:59:45 <dtzWill> biosed: it was broken in the update to 3.0.4
Oct 23 22:00:14 <biosed> i see, thx for the quick reply, any badness in moving to the beta feeds?
Oct 23 22:00:52 <dtzWill> can't say for certain, but i don't believe so.  pretty sure i can push that to stable actually, maybe i'll just do that.
Oct 23 22:01:21 <biosed> ahh that would be awesome
Oct 23 22:01:31 <dtzWill> it also includes vkb support for esc and control :)
Oct 23 22:01:38 <biosed> :O
Oct 23 22:01:48 <biosed> the touchpad just became awesome
Oct 23 22:02:29 <dtzWill> oh and wow it also includes fixing 'alt' support in base xterm
Oct 23 22:02:35 <dtzWill> (useful for things like irssi, etc)
Oct 23 22:02:45 <dtzWill> meant to push that to stable a long while ago >_>
Oct 23 22:02:55 <biosed> sweet as, when ya pushin it? :)
Oct 23 22:03:01 <klausa> And Unicode support, IIRC :)?
Oct 23 22:03:13 <dtzWill> momentarily, i'll let you know. will take ~15m for the update to go through
Oct 23 22:03:31 <dtzWill> klausa: good call, should push the xterm package out too probably
Oct 23 22:03:32 * dtzWill reviews
Oct 23 22:04:08 <dtzWill> yep
Oct 23 22:04:19 <dtzWill> wow didn't mean to sit on that for nearly so long @.@
Oct 23 22:04:35 <biosed> waiting patiently, solid work!
Oct 23 22:05:49 <dtzWill> pushed, now the waiting game ^.^
Oct 23 22:05:57 <ajay> dtzWill: oo hot!
Oct 23 22:06:16 <klausa> Nice :)
Oct 23 22:10:26 <Darkmagister> ka6sox thanks :D can you helo me ?
Oct 23 22:10:49 <ka6sox> Darkmagister, uh, never tried it.
Oct 23 22:11:00 <Darkmagister> ok thanks
Oct 23 22:11:31 <ka6sox> too many things to do...not enought time.
Oct 23 22:35:11 <biosed> update applied an working, cheers!
Oct 23 22:42:02 <klausa> great ;]
Oct 23 22:42:16 <klausa> i now have almost working utf :]
Oct 23 22:42:23 <biosed>  how can I generate an up arrow button press in xterm?
Oct 23 22:42:46 <dtzWill> biosed: with the vkb? dunno. maybe someone 'discovered' a special key that does it
Oct 23 22:42:54 <dtzWill> maybe i should hijack more unused symbol keys :)
Oct 23 22:43:01 <klausa> biosed: press-and-hold u
Oct 23 22:43:14 <klausa> u with ^ is arrow up
Oct 23 22:43:48 <biosed> feck, thats perfect
Oct 23 22:43:51 <klausa> u umlaut (two dots) is arrow down
Oct 23 22:43:57 <biosed> I no longer need my laptop
Oct 23 22:44:18 <klausa> and ther are also left and right there, but i cant remember which one is what
Oct 23 23:23:36 <dwc-> dtzWill: what's the "dismiss" button?
Oct 23 23:25:11 <elpollodiablo1> dwc-: the virtual keyboard dismiss button.
Oct 23 23:26:09 <dwc-> the one that you hold down to change teh size?
Oct 23 23:27:07 <dtzWill> dwc-: right, the one that in any other context dismiss's the vkb
Oct 23 23:27:36 <dwc-> ah-ha, it's a tap toggle
Oct 23 23:27:38 <dtzWill> the control modifier is sticky, fwiw
Oct 23 23:27:39 <dtzWill> yep yep
Oct 23 23:27:55 <dtzWill> else you'd have to hold it...and that's no good since it'll popup size prompt xD
Oct 23 23:27:57 <dwc-> that's the part I was missing
Oct 23 23:28:03 <dtzWill> also lets you hit keys on other keyboard, etc
Oct 23 23:28:19 <dwc-> well I was trying to hit the other key while holding, but before the size toggle came up
Oct 24 00:45:51 <ajay> paz
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