**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 07 02:59:57 2011 Nov 07 03:13:25 hola Nov 07 03:16:16 hmm, lt_cv_path_NM isnt being set anymore Nov 07 03:47:31 wows, 100% cpu can kill a pre3 battery fast Nov 07 03:48:20 hi guys. i have just obtained :D a Sprint Pre. yay. am i correct in remembering that there is some way to actually bypass the device activation, yet still get it linked to my palm profile? or should i just use the official activation-bypass thingee ? Nov 07 03:48:23 yep, that's about right. A full cpu can pull close to 1C of battery, so you get about an hour and you're done Nov 07 03:49:12 geist: yeah i had no warning either till it says battery at 0% Nov 07 03:49:38 hows life geist? Nov 07 03:49:56 oh, sorry - i should stay on topic Nov 07 04:10:07 submitting a patch to preware specifically for the veer and webOS 2.1.2 - but i don't see 2.1.2 as a option on webos patch portal? I'm guessing I just select 2.1.0 ? Nov 07 04:12:11 nightburn: yes, 2.1.2 patch feed is a symlink to 2.1.0 Nov 07 04:12:35 okay Nov 07 04:12:43 that makes sense.. Nov 07 04:15:51 Basically the "Disable Light Sensitive Dimming" patch for the Pre3 also works on 2.1.2 on the Veer. Nov 07 04:19:34 umm thats weird my battery change just went from 8% to 100% Nov 07 04:20:57 really my patch submission could be disregarded and the one the for the pre3 could just be copied over, it's not any different, i rebuilt it to be sure. Nov 07 04:22:15 we don't have a way to do that easily. submission through the portal is the easiest for us, otherwise it gets lost again on the next future version update if the portal doesn't know about the version Nov 07 04:23:47 okay, is there anything wrong with what I just did then? i forgot to put in my email address, that's about it . Nov 07 04:26:43 any reason why it wouldn't work on 2.2.3, 3.0.2 and 3.0.4 too? Nov 07 04:27:10 it definitely works on 2.2.3 Nov 07 04:27:33 I did not look at 3.0.2 and 3.0.4. I will though Nov 07 04:32:39 rwhitby: confirmed, yes, the luna.conf file is not different enough between those webOS versions, it'll work on 2.1, 2.2, 3.0.2, and 3.0.4 Nov 07 04:33:33 although uncessary on 3.x because there an option to toggle in the screen/lock app Nov 07 04:57:55 is app catalog not working for anyone else? Nov 07 05:00:25 working fine here on Pre 3 and TouchPad Nov 07 05:01:10 ok, rebooting touchpad Nov 07 05:01:30 the app catalog is a giant pile of crap anyways Nov 07 05:02:09 my pre3 is still running fine with voltage at 1200mv at 1.4ghz.. That's -50mV off the stock settings. Nov 07 05:02:59 chuck norris or are the stock settings super conserative ? hmm Nov 07 05:03:38 stock settings have to work for all chips produced by qualcomm at that freq Nov 07 05:03:52 statistics say that yours will be better than at least some Nov 07 05:11:55 i just installed this homebrew app that allows remote file browsing on the touchpad from a web browser.... it has momentarily blitzed the touchpad somehow Nov 07 05:12:30 is there a way to force a touchpad to restart? Nov 07 05:12:41 it is not reponding to anything Nov 07 05:12:45 yea Nov 07 05:13:29 hold power and home button for like 8-10 seconds Nov 07 05:14:10 TYVM Nov 07 07:43:43 rwhitby: and any other aussies here http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/56572 Nov 07 11:47:56 can i read older pivot issues somehow? or is an issue only available for a month? Nov 07 12:28:01 hooT Nov 07 12:49:49 can anyone who own 2.1.2 send me /usr/bin/libTelephonyInterfaceLayer.so Nov 07 12:50:09 no i meant 2.1.3 veer Nov 07 13:34:21 greets... what is the proper way to submit an IPKG Log for a patch that is failing to update/remove? Nov 07 13:35:46 click the paper plane to mail it Nov 07 13:38:43 the problem is that it doesn't populate a to: ... the author is webos-internals .. I searched the wiki and have not found an email :/ Nov 07 13:53:03 well, I tried support@webos-internals.org as a best guess and it hasn't bounced yet. ;-) Nov 07 14:00:36 hi mOo :) Nov 07 14:00:52 :) Nov 07 15:36:13 mOo: extract it from the doctor Nov 07 15:37:46 2.1.3 is said be pre-install on someone's mobile by bought it, not my mobile i don't have the doctor :( Nov 07 15:58:59 anybody know how to fix sms problem on pre2? Nov 07 16:21:22 lesjaw: and what would the problem be? Nov 07 16:22:02 sms notification.. sometime I dont receive it.. rebooting will fix it Nov 07 16:24:14 poor lesjaw Nov 07 16:24:53 I saw there is a fix in pre3 Nov 07 16:25:51 ah.. will that also affect veer? as 2.1.2 (veer) is lower than 2.2.3 (pre 3) Nov 07 16:26:02 lesjaw: can you point me to the fix? Nov 07 16:26:50 I just saw it in pre sub forum in precentral.. somebody mention it Nov 07 16:27:06 I mean pre 2 sub forum Nov 07 16:27:38 maybe you can ask the author of the patch to back port it for your webos Nov 07 16:28:11 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-2/306204-possible-sms-fix-2-1-pre-3-doctor.html Nov 07 16:31:00 ok, it's not a patch but the official fix in new webos Nov 07 16:32:00 lesjaw: do you know how to reproduce it? Nov 07 16:32:51 i have random "non-ascii chars become squares" issue for sms notification (the single line bar at the bottom) Nov 07 16:33:06 but i don't know how to reproduce it Nov 07 16:34:33 nope.. I just know sometime I dont receive sms.. but after a reboot suddenly I have new sms.. so annoying Nov 07 16:36:05 moo : wierd.. Nov 07 20:38:38 what service needs to be restarted to update an edit to /etc/hosts without a full reboot? Nov 07 21:11:04 are there commandline tools for WOSQI? Nov 07 22:03:30 is there a step like rm PalmAccountDatabase.db3 on webOS 2? Nov 07 23:06:40 hello everyone. working my way through adapting http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/ssh_to_debian_chroot_on_palm_pre/ for my touchpad ubuntu chroot and i was wondering if step 4 is still the right way to open a port. just checking to see in case things have changed in the years since this post was written Nov 07 23:07:48 uptown, why arent you doing it the 'mainstream' way? Nov 07 23:08:37 wrea: i think that's what i'm asking about. any pointers appreciated! Nov 07 23:09:33 uptown, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/UbuntuChroot Nov 07 23:11:31 wrea: i did my chroot that way and it works, but i want ssh to work into the chroot Nov 07 23:17:44 wrea: uptown is doing a subsequent step after the mainstream instructions end Nov 07 23:21:06 rwhitby: exactly. and if you guys think it's bad idea or if there is some better way to do it, i'm all ears. the age of that post makes me nervous Nov 07 23:21:13 yes, step4 should be the same Nov 07 23:22:01 just remember if you want ssh inside and outside the chroot simultaneously, you'll need to use 2 different ports Nov 07 23:22:57 dwc-: yes, duly noted. Nov 07 23:24:37 dunno if you followed the linked "Debian chroot on Palm Pre" or the "DebianChroot" wiki article, but the ssh part should be more or less identical Nov 07 23:24:54 s/wiki/webos-internals wiki/ Nov 07 23:24:54 dwc- meant: dunno if you followed the linked "Debian chroot on Palm Pre" or the "DebianChroot" webos-internals wiki article, but the ssh part should be more or less identical Nov 07 23:28:03 In what way exactly is dbus used in webos? I see service files and such but im not seeing dbus-send and the like Nov 07 23:28:42 it's not any more. they changed from dbus to ls2 in webOS 2.0 Nov 07 23:29:42 my chroot is actually the ubuntu one Nov 07 23:30:22 but i like being able to ssh from boot time Nov 07 23:31:41 is there a way to script starting the x server at webos boot? what i really want is to have ssh with x forwarding at boot Nov 07 23:35:02 ssh with x-forwarding from where at boot Nov 07 23:36:25 from the chroot ideally? i have moved a heavily tricked out pidgin setup to the chroot but might want to forward that window to a laptop while at work so the logs stay unified etc Nov 07 23:37:38 so ssh'ing from the laptop into your chroot? you don't need an X server running for that Nov 07 23:38:03 s/running/& on the device/ Nov 07 23:38:03 dwc- meant: so ssh'ing from the laptop into your chroot? you don't need an X server & on the device for that Nov 07 23:38:14 s/&/running/ Nov 07 23:38:17 (infobot regex fail) Nov 07 23:38:45 not just ssh, ssh -X Nov 07 23:39:07 pretty sure i need an x server to forward x Nov 07 23:43:53 you need one on the client Nov 07 23:44:22 e.g. ssh -X headlessbox (here, your phone) pidgin Nov 07 23:44:30 s/phone/device/ Nov 07 23:44:31 dwc- meant: e.g. ssh -X headlessbox (here, your device) pidgin Nov 07 23:44:39 yessir, agreed Nov 07 23:45:06 i've got one on my laptop Nov 07 23:45:15 all you need on the headlessbox are the appropriate xlibs, and typically (but not required) xauth Nov 07 23:45:26 but Nov 07 23:45:55 the headlessbox is only running x once i start the chroot, right? Nov 07 23:46:56 i can use the trick in that post i linked to get ssh to start at webos boot, but i want to start the x server at webos boot too Nov 07 23:47:34 headlessbox doesn't need to start x Nov 07 23:47:40 oh Nov 07 23:47:47 my bad Nov 07 23:48:08 let me finish that firewall trick and test that then! Nov 08 00:07:22 no joy. no ssh running. is there a boot log anywhere? i don't see one in in /var/log Nov 08 00:07:35 rwhitby, ah, that makes sense Nov 08 00:44:36 i guess i can build dbus then Nov 08 00:49:07 in case anyone else asks, that post is bunk Nov 08 00:51:07 if you enter your chroot, can you start your sshd? Nov 08 00:51:12 by hand Nov 08 00:51:28 the logs would be inside teh chroot Nov 08 00:52:14 yes, i see ssh-agent in ps -ef once i start the chroot Nov 08 00:52:21 that's not an sshd Nov 08 00:53:43 good point. i am a fedora person so perhaps i didn't apt-get the right package. investigating Nov 08 01:09:57 So I recieved a pixi+ as a gift. wanted to do some simple enyo tests with it, but i can't get it to doctor... Nov 08 01:10:05 it gets to 1% and then fails Nov 08 01:12:11 are you running the doctor from a command line? Nov 08 01:13:14 dwc-: yeah Nov 08 01:13:27 pastebin the output somewhere and people can take a look and get back to you Nov 08 01:17:24 http://pastebin.com/bSHFgKaZ Nov 08 01:19:07 verify the md5sum of your webos doctor? Nov 08 01:20:55 what do i verify it against? Nov 08 01:21:06 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions#MD5_sums Nov 08 01:21:19 duh... i was just there Nov 08 01:22:50 didn't match. downloading again... Nov 08 01:29:25 looks like it's working now thanks Nov 08 01:29:54 had to download over wget. everytime i used chrome it was corrupted... Nov 08 01:30:32 the clue was the corrupted zip/tar stuff Nov 08 01:32:02 yeah i should have checked the md5 sum, i feel like an idiot Nov 08 02:50:41 Anybody had any issues with their phone locking up when you dial 911? Nov 08 02:50:46 That was a serious issue today. Nov 08 02:56:09 I... I don't think calling 911 is something that gets tested regularly. At least, I hope its not. Nov 08 02:56:23 hmm Nov 08 02:56:41 I may have to throw this phone in the desk drawer if it won't 911 Nov 08 02:57:41 It is just really hard to say if it was a one time fluke, or an actual issue **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 08 02:59:57 2011