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Nov 20 05:03:25 <Nergal> currently in search for a download from browser patch for 3.04 the doesn't conflict with current existing patches.  preferably works on sites like bandcamp
Nov 20 05:25:02 <dwc-> some people's requests don't even make much sense
Nov 20 05:27:25 <wrea> nope
Nov 20 06:34:37 * rwhitby returns from 3 days camping
Nov 20 06:35:37 <wrea> Nice
Nov 20 06:35:44 <wrea> I havent been camping for years now
Nov 20 06:38:30 <rwhitby> this camp was as a leader among about 100 or so other leaders looking after 1000 cub scouts.
Nov 20 06:42:49 <wrea> a 1000 kids....
Nov 20 06:46:52 <rwhitby> yep
Nov 20 06:48:19 <wrea> I've been around 400-500 high schoolers and I didnt like that too much
Nov 20 06:49:27 <ka6sox> oy....and I thought it was bad keeping track of 20 Cub Scouts!
Nov 20 06:59:28 <rwhitby> ka6sox: well, I personally only had to keep track of a peak of 42, and normally 15.
Nov 20 07:12:59 <ka6sox> "had" meaning you are done?
Nov 20 07:13:04 <ka6sox> and successfully?
Nov 20 07:33:36 <rwhitby> ype
Nov 20 10:01:15 <bhuey_> folks
Nov 20 14:16:21 <rwatkins> .window 2
Nov 20 15:55:32 <LarrySteeze> 'ello!
Nov 20 17:32:01 <bfr1992t> need some hopefully quick help troubleshooting browserserver constantly respawning, error status 34
Nov 20 17:32:10 <bfr1992t> started after installing sudo ipkg it seems
Nov 20 17:32:25 <bfr1992t> would prefer to fix, or reinstall the package
Nov 20 17:37:47 <bfr1992t> anyone? :)
Nov 20 17:38:38 <siestacat> rwhitby
Nov 20 17:44:11 <siestacat> how do I extract the installer image?
Nov 20 17:44:17 <siestacat> I thought I did it right, probably didn't
Nov 20 17:46:10 <bfr1992t> I'm looking for help doing something similar, I apparently broke the web browser and now it constantly respawns, status 34. would like to get just the browser package and reinstall
Nov 20 17:47:01 <siestacat> there was a script mentioned the other day
Nov 20 17:47:29 <bfr1992t> to fix my issue or work with the install image?
Nov 20 17:48:04 <siestacat> to unpack the webos doctor
Nov 20 17:49:31 <bfr1992t> that would help, do you have a link to it?
Nov 20 17:49:51 <siestacat> nope
Nov 20 18:00:25 <dwc-> how did you break it?
Nov 20 18:02:10 <bfr1992t> not exactly sure, the last things I did were to change openssh to allow password authentication using the webos-internals wiki instructions, then created an account via adduser, and installed sudo
Nov 20 18:02:15 <siestacat> where can I get the nova-installer uImage?
Nov 20 18:02:15 <bfr1992t> seems it stopped working after that
Nov 20 18:02:38 <siestacat> I've decompressed the doctor twice now, can't find it
Nov 20 18:02:46 <bfr1992t> I've removed sudo, removed several other preware patches installed around the same time
Nov 20 18:02:51 <bfr1992t> rebooted several times
Nov 20 18:02:53 <bfr1992t> no luck
Nov 20 18:04:03 <dwc-> well, the easiest way to restore everything would be to doctor your phone back to stock
Nov 20 18:04:07 <dwc-> www.palm.com/rom
Nov 20 18:04:33 <bfr1992t> it's a touchpad, I really would like to fix it vs restoring it to stock
Nov 20 18:04:41 <bfr1992t> just need some help getting started
Nov 20 18:05:22 <dwc-> siestacat, the uImage is inside the webOS.tar
Nov 20 18:05:56 <dwc-> bfr1992t, sorry, dunno what to tell you
Nov 20 18:07:31 <bfr1992t> well I assume the package is in the webos tarball. my download of the webdoctor jar just finished, is there a page showing how to extract it?
Nov 20 18:07:56 <siestacat> dw- how do I get to the webos tar file?
Nov 20 18:08:00 <siestacat> I can't find that either
Nov 20 18:08:14 <siestacat> I'm using winrar
Nov 20 18:08:39 <siestacat> I couldn't find anything saying special instructions for the jar file
Nov 20 18:09:13 <bfr1992t> ok, that's what I suspected - winrar or winzip would handle it
Nov 20 18:09:26 <bfr1992t> trying now will see how far I get
Nov 20 18:11:52 <siestacat> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Patch_webOS_Bypassing_Activation
Nov 20 18:12:02 <siestacat> yeah, rename to zip then you can access all parts of it
Nov 20 18:12:08 <siestacat> finally found the uImage
Nov 20 18:13:08 <bfr1992t> aha, yeah that's right jar files are zip files with a specific hierarchy
Nov 20 18:14:15 <bfr1992t> and there's webos.tar
Nov 20 18:16:56 <siestacat> how can I list all of my lvm partitions?
Nov 20 18:18:08 <bfr1992t> lvscan, lvs, lvdisplay
Nov 20 18:19:52 <dwc-> jars are zips
Nov 20 18:20:34 <dwc-> the rootfs image doesn't have the packages as ipks
Nov 20 18:20:44 <dwc-> not sure exactly how you'd figure out what you'd broken
Nov 20 18:20:45 <bfr1992t> ok that's what I was fearing
Nov 20 18:21:02 <bfr1992t> well I can still list files in the packages
Nov 20 18:21:03 <dwc-> I guess you could run through the md5sum lists maybe
Nov 20 18:21:16 <bfr1992t> so I can replace them one by one from the clean image
Nov 20 18:21:19 <dwc-> you have both of those lists on the device
Nov 20 18:21:39 <dwc-> try md5sum -c on the stuff in ... I think it's /usr/lib/ipkg/info/
Nov 20 18:21:45 <bfr1992t> ok cool
Nov 20 18:26:30 <siestacat> what the hell....
Nov 20 18:26:36 <siestacat> so, I am finally in novaterm
Nov 20 18:26:45 <siestacat> webOS will not doctor
Nov 20 18:27:06 <siestacat> so I figured I'd remove my touchdroid partitions
Nov 20 18:27:11 <siestacat> problem is they don't exist...
Nov 20 18:27:30 <siestacat> does the optional ext3fs thing with meta-doctor screw anything up?
Nov 20 18:28:58 <Nergal> siestacat you'd probably get better help on a touchdroid issue at Topic for #touchpad is "HP Touchpad Conversation | #touchpad-root (dev work) | #touchdroid (android dev) | #
Nov 20 18:29:12 <siestacat> Nergal : this is a webOS problem, as I can't doctor.
Nov 20 18:29:15 <siestacat> They are useless
Nov 20 18:29:28 <siestacat> I'm just trying to doctor as I destroyed webOS with the patch recovery tool the other day
Nov 20 18:29:44 <Nergal> ok I see try this
Nov 20 18:29:46 <dwc-> run the doctor from the commandline, pastebin the results
Nov 20 18:29:55 <dwc-> post the pastebin
Nov 20 18:30:54 <bfr1992t> how granular is the doctor recovery? can I have it recover just one package or are you pretty much going to reset the device to stock?
Nov 20 18:31:05 <dwc-> and it's not so much a webos problem, since you broke it, not webos ;)
Nov 20 18:31:11 <Nergal> uninstall novacom & let the doctor reinstall it?
Nov 20 18:31:28 <dwc-> bfr1992t: reset to stock
Nov 20 18:32:54 <Nergal> bfr1992t for single files I use ftp, or webosqi or jaycanuck's app I  can't remember the name of but something like "file fixer"
Nov 20 18:32:59 <siestacat> alright
Nov 20 18:33:00 <siestacat> I'll do that
Nov 20 18:33:13 <siestacat> how should I run it from cmd?
Nov 20 18:33:22 <dwc-> java -jar
Nov 20 18:34:15 <Nergal> siestacat, how far into doctor does it go before it says it can't do it? (10% 24% etc)
Nov 20 18:35:59 <siestacat> it was 4% yesterday, it's already hit 8 today...
Nov 20 18:36:13 <siestacat> wait
Nov 20 18:36:46 <siestacat> attempting to remove appdirectory /tmp_mediafs/.palm
Nov 20 18:37:07 <siestacat> finished that
Nov 20 18:37:29 <siestacat> sweet, alright, it appears to be working
Nov 20 18:37:39 <siestacat> wtf...
Nov 20 18:37:45 <siestacat> I had to remove my ext3fs partition
Nov 20 18:37:55 <siestacat> deleted it with LVM and then resized the media partition
Nov 20 18:58:47 <siestacat> sweet, done
Nov 20 18:58:50 <siestacat> thanks guys
Nov 20 19:01:19 <Nergal> just wondering siestacat what finally fixed it? was it removing the ext3
Nov 20 19:05:13 <siestacat> yes
Nov 20 19:05:17 <siestacat> nothing else helped at all
Nov 20 19:05:44 <siestacat> manually removing the ext3fs then adding the unassigned space to the media partition
Nov 20 19:05:51 <siestacat> one too many partitions or something I'm guessing
Nov 20 19:05:55 <siestacat> doctor must be fussy
Nov 20 19:15:44 <EricBlade> wth my pre- is showing a load avg of 22
Nov 20 20:24:50 <EricBlade> hmm. o nmy pre-, if i switch from my custom UK profile, which is 125-1ghz, ondemand, to the Palm Default, and then back to the custom, I end up with a min of 250 and a max of 600 until i reboot
Nov 20 20:50:54 <bfr1992t> is BrettQ a regular on here, seems he had the same problem I have
Nov 20 20:51:14 <dwc-> ~seen brettq
Nov 20 20:51:32 <dwc-> that bot is never here when you want it to be
Nov 20 20:51:49 <bfr1992t> hah, yeah it's been about 10 years since I've been in an IRC room, I don't remember anything
Nov 20 20:52:14 <dwc-> I don't show brettq being here in the last month
Nov 20 20:53:11 <dwc-> that's what nickserv says anyways
Nov 20 20:53:33 <bfr1992t> thanks
Nov 20 20:58:17 <bfr1992t> dwc, I don't recall if I used ipkg or ipkg-opt to install sudo, if I used the wrong one would that cause an issue. also I know I didn't remount / as rw
Nov 20 20:59:28 <bfr1992t> basically ever since installing sudo the browser loads, then goes dim, reloads, and repeats
Nov 20 20:59:46 <bfr1992t> log entries for browserserver respawning in syslog
Nov 20 21:16:07 <rwhitby> bfr1992t: using ipkg instead of ipkg-opt will clobber stuff in the rootfs, and cause OTA update issues.
Nov 20 22:44:27 <Saij> Whatsup party people
Nov 21 00:27:38 <globex> I'm having trouble with OpenSSH on the Pre 3. I followed all the instructions (that worked on my Pre- and Touchpad), however, when I try to connect via WinSCP I get: "Cannot initialize SFTP protocol. Is the host running a SFTP server?". I can connect to "ssh localhost" on the Pre 3. Any ideas?
Nov 21 00:29:18 <rwhitby> did you install the sftp server module?
Nov 21 00:29:35 <globex> Do I need to? Is in Preware?
Nov 21 00:30:21 <rwhitby> yes and yes.
Nov 21 00:30:43 <globex> "OpenSSH FTP Server" in Optware?
Nov 21 00:31:10 <rwhitby> yes
Nov 21 00:33:03 <globex> That fixed it.
Nov 21 00:33:07 <globex> Thanks.
Nov 21 01:51:31 <xxAngiexx>  hi
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