**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 21 02:59:58 2011
Nov 21 03:09:22 <johnny> hello
Nov 21 03:10:10 <Guest12215> sorry
Nov 21 03:10:19 <Guest12215> bout that
Nov 21 03:20:48 <RobiMac> yo ppl
Nov 21 03:22:02 <RobiMac> weird problem with phone app when it dials voicemail, all buttons stop working, can't keyb dial
Nov 21 03:22:50 <RobiMac> dosn't even refresh the screen saying it connected
Nov 21 03:23:20 <Guest12215> does anybody know how toinstall apps from my pc?
Nov 21 03:23:51 <grep_awesome> Guest12215: google WOSQI or WebOSQuickInstaller
Nov 21 03:24:07 <RobiMac> use WOSQI yep
Nov 21 03:25:00 <Guest12215> thanks
Nov 21 03:53:51 <RobiMac> hmm must be patch related
Nov 21 03:54:30 <RobiMac> if I dial a phone number on its own it's fine, just the voicemal button to get to voicemail or from a notification, it hangs all input
Nov 21 03:56:34 <RobiMac> hm, can't remove recent adv sys pref patch.. unreversed patches detected
Nov 21 04:15:01 <EdsTP> predate is getting stuck here reading the saved package list.
Nov 21 04:15:15 <EdsTP> preware I mean
Nov 21 04:15:54 <rwhitby> it's a webOS 3.0.4 bug. uninstall and reinstall Preware often fixes it. There's nothing we can do about it in Preware.
Nov 21 04:16:27 <EdsTP> ok, thanks.
Nov 21 04:20:39 <RobiMac> uhh, can't find patch that affects the contacts framework preventing all these other patches from installing/uninstalling
Nov 21 04:24:01 <RobiMac> ok down to 1 hunk failure
Nov 21 04:25:40 <RobiMac> is there an issue with using the (ATT/VZW) patches on Sprint?
Nov 21 04:29:25 <EdLin> rwhitby still doesn't work, my preware is broke. is there any other way for me to get my homebrew fix?
Nov 21 04:31:26 <EdLin> rwhitby will webos quick install work?
Nov 21 04:32:59 <rwhitby> did you uninstall, reboot, then reinstall ?
Nov 21 04:33:44 <EdLin> rwhitby I uninstalled and reinstalled, didn't reboot.
Nov 21 04:36:35 <EdLin> rwhitby doing that now.
Nov 21 04:40:21 <EdLin> rwhitby ok, it worked! Thanks. :)
Nov 21 04:40:24 <RobiMac> hmm getting a preware error on the kernels/testing url
Nov 21 04:40:35 <RobiMac> old one?
Nov 21 04:43:19 <rwhitby> See testing.preware.org
Nov 21 04:43:35 <RobiMac> did
Nov 21 04:45:08 <RobiMac> found the culprit tho
Nov 21 04:45:50 <RobiMac> dupe entry
Nov 21 06:30:18 <Nergal> anyone able to explain why ubuntu chroot would say it installed but no ubuntu folder in ext3fs? a nothing happens on launch press in xecutah
Nov 21 06:33:14 <klausa> Satanic nick.
Nov 21 06:34:58 <Nergal> I don't think that's why
Nov 21 06:40:14 <Nergal> nevermind think maybe have answer
Nov 21 06:47:07 * resistivecorpse resistive|afk
Nov 21 14:31:15 <Obie> ho
Nov 21 14:31:17 <Obie> hi
Nov 21 14:31:38 <Obie> anyone know how to active the chinese input
Nov 21 14:31:43 <Obie> in pre3
Nov 21 16:40:43 <pheonix28> Can anyone help please?
Nov 21 16:40:51 <pheonix28> I converted my frankenpre
Nov 21 16:41:14 <pheonix28> just swapped the comm board from sprint pre- to vzw pr2 and I'm having problems w/the speaker/mic working for phone calls
Nov 21 16:41:27 <pheonix28> Did the interactive tests and both work just fine, but not when I have a phone call
Nov 21 16:41:36 <pheonix28> speaker phone works fine
Nov 21 16:41:56 <pheonix28> When I have headphones in the mic quits working for phone calls also
Nov 21 17:32:51 <wrea> sconix, while testing rtp I'm finding out it is probably flooding my network
Nov 21 17:34:46 <grep_awesome> wrea: flooding the network is always fun
Nov 21 17:34:59 <wrea> Yeah
Nov 21 17:35:43 <wrea> Started having network problems last night that looked like dns.
Nov 21 17:36:18 <wrea> Testing this morning. rtp going started doing it, restart pulse, all better again
Nov 21 17:37:51 <grep_awesome> haha!
Nov 21 17:41:39 <sconix> wrea: sounds fun ;) I don't reacll having that problem when I tried to get it to work
Nov 21 17:42:11 <wrea> :P
Nov 21 17:43:19 <wrea> Was lloking at the volume levels on rtp.monitor on my laptop and it wasnt reporting anything. So I didnt get anything out of my frustration either :P
Nov 21 17:52:56 <wrea> sconix, home control is looking awesome btw
Nov 21 18:06:19 <wrea> still flooding, but at least loop=1 works :P
Nov 21 18:26:36 <grep_awesome> does anyone know how to load a js source file into a service assistant if it isn't another assistant or named library?
Nov 21 18:27:00 <grep_awesome> require('myfile.js' and require('abs_path_to_file/myfile.js') don't work
Nov 21 18:27:37 <halfhalo> IMPORTS.require?
Nov 21 18:28:24 <grep_awesome> halfhalo: tried that one as well
Nov 21 18:28:47 <grep_awesome> halfhalo: maybe I tried it before I remembered to list it in my sources file… trying again. thanks
Nov 21 18:30:35 <grep_awesome> I've tried IMPORTS.require('myfile.js') and IMPORTS.require('abs_path_to_file/myfile.js')
Nov 21 18:31:28 <grep_awesome> oh weird, it is sorta working, but throwing an error with my overriding a method of Object
Nov 21 18:31:38 <grep_awesome> the code worked fine before I split the files
Nov 21 18:38:50 <grep_awesome> halfhalo: the IMPORTS.require was the joy, thanks
Nov 21 18:48:17 <pheonix28> is it possible that my phone app got messed up in the metadoctor?
Nov 21 19:23:21 <panel> hello
Nov 21 19:24:34 <grep_awesome> howdy
Nov 21 19:28:10 <wrea> hmm.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/411688
Nov 21 19:49:11 <sconix> wrea: thanks, its still bit rough from the edges and missing stuff but hopefully once ready it will be ;)
Nov 21 20:10:35 <wrea> rofl, when i restart pulse now for some reason it keeps trying to restart and then gives up
Nov 21 20:55:32 <wrea> sconix, once i leave out source in the rtp-send line i have no problems
Nov 21 21:14:36 <wrea> sconix, i was showing volume levels there for a few seconds
Nov 21 23:14:24 <kill_dano> where do all the error logs ho? I'm having issues and wanna read it!
Nov 21 23:15:06 <dwc-> error logs ... for what?
Nov 21 23:16:16 <kill_dano> when you turn off logging with ##logs# ... Those logs are the ones I'm talking anout
Nov 21 23:16:29 <kill_dano> webos error in general all the logs
Nov 21 23:16:32 <kill_dano> ie the muffle system logging patch... Those logs
Nov 21 23:17:25 <oilsworkn>  /var/log/messages?
Nov 21 23:17:45 <kill_dano> thnks
Nov 21 23:19:38 <dwc-> well, if you turn it off... then it's going... nowhere :)
Nov 21 23:21:58 <rwhitby> dwc-: bit like webOS itself, really ;)
Nov 21 23:35:16 <dwc-> indeed
Nov 22 01:02:40 <EricBlade1> ok, so if i upgrade this att pre+ to 2.1.0, i get most of the advantages of 2.1, but i can't install any catalog software that requires 2.1
Nov 22 01:02:49 <EricBlade1> and if it doesn't work, i can just redoctor back to 1.4.5 right
Nov 22 01:04:42 <PatrickC> why couldnt u install software that requires 2.1?
Nov 22 01:04:58 <EricBlade1> because that's what the documentation says
Nov 22 01:05:19 <PatrickC> i have installed 2.1+ software on my pre- from the catalog
Nov 22 01:05:37 * EricBlade1 read the whole thing twice, just like it said, and then a third time just to be sure
Nov 22 01:05:48 * PatrickC goes to read it again
Nov 22 01:07:20 <EricBlade1> only question that i really have, is regarding the warning on turning backup off, "Your data in your Palm Profile will also be erased." should I assume that that only means for this specific device, right?
Nov 22 01:07:36 <PatrickC> ah, i have a sprint pre. you have an AT&T. ive never looked at any other scripts then sprint
Nov 22 01:07:36 <siestacat> thought uberkernel could do 1.7ghz now?
Nov 22 01:07:52 <dwc-> yes, that's device specific
Nov 22 01:08:07 <EricBlade1> ok, then i don't care because i don't have any info on the pre
Nov 22 01:10:45 * EricBlade1 while idly waiting for his lone linux system to boot, wonders how the hell the CM7 guys got that thing to boot in 7 seconds on a TouchPad
Nov 22 01:12:02 <EricBlade1> so, what is the actual difference then between having a Pre+ running wOS 2.1 vs having a Pre2 ?
Nov 22 01:25:17 <dwc-> one is a lot slower? ;)
Nov 22 01:29:06 * EricBlade1 realizes that Java is not installed on his Linux machine.
Nov 22 01:29:16 * EricBlade1 weeps.
Nov 22 01:33:08 <siestacat> I thought it could to 1.7 on my touchpad?
Nov 22 01:33:16 <siestacat> I saw it on the update list FROM my touchpad...
Nov 22 01:33:18 <siestacat> ah well
Nov 22 01:33:21 <siestacat> that was 3.0.2
Nov 22 01:36:17 <siestacat> Pixi on 2.1 : just how slow is it?
Nov 22 01:42:59 <EricBlade1> looks like a spec comparison is 1ghz vs 600mhz and 2mp of camera difference.  i know i can hit 1ghz on the processor, so whoopty.
Nov 22 02:06:03 <EricBlade1> woot. just booted up 2.1.  doesn't look any different from 1.4.5 atm
Nov 22 02:18:21 <siestacat> EricBlade1 ever get gvoice working on pixi?
Nov 22 02:18:41 <EricBlade1> siestacat: does pixi have the maps update?
Nov 22 02:22:53 <siestacat> yes
Nov 22 02:23:05 <EricBlade1> no wonder it doesn't look any different i accidentally doctored 1.4.5 again
Nov 22 02:23:52 <EricBlade1> if it runs any other Enyo app then it should work
Nov 22 02:24:55 <siestacat> tried it before
Nov 22 02:24:56 <siestacat> it failed
Nov 22 02:25:00 <siestacat> brb
Nov 22 02:25:15 <EricBlade1> .. you also told me you were trying it on a Pre.
Nov 22 02:25:16 <EricBlade1> :D
Nov 22 02:27:42 <PatrickC> hows the meta-doctoring going EricBlade1
Nov 22 02:27:44 <PatrickC> ?
Nov 22 02:27:53 <EricBlade1> well i accidentally ran my old Doctor first
Nov 22 02:27:59 <EricBlade1> so I was a little confused when nothing changed
Nov 22 02:28:06 <PatrickC> lol
Nov 22 02:28:10 <EricBlade1> not knowing if webOS 2 looked identical to 1 or not
Nov 22 02:28:18 <PatrickC> it doesnt :)
Nov 22 02:28:28 <PatrickC> is the3 Pre+ the only webOS device u have?
Nov 22 02:28:36 <EricBlade1> i figured it would at least come with a different background set :D
Nov 22 02:28:48 <EricBlade1> TouchPad was my first and now I have a Pre and Pre+
Nov 22 02:29:08 <PatrickC> nice
Nov 22 02:29:19 <PatrickC> the pre3 is nice.. but i really prefer my pre2
Nov 22 02:29:21 <PatrickC> much faster
Nov 22 02:29:35 <EricBlade1> I hear there are people running the Pre3 at 2ghz+
Nov 22 02:29:40 <PatrickC> there are
Nov 22 02:29:42 <PatrickC> i am one of them
Nov 22 02:29:52 <PatrickC> but with the small amount of RAM, it is slow
Nov 22 02:29:57 <PatrickC> super slow for me :/
Nov 22 02:29:58 <hewball> touchpad was my first one too, now have the pre3 too
Nov 22 02:30:06 <EricBlade1> 6 months more, and we'll have top end phones that beat most of my desktop hardware
Nov 22 02:30:29 <hewball> PatrickC: hows that battery life at 2ghz?
Nov 22 02:32:26 <PatrickC> hewball, my pre3 is unactivated, so i cant really say how good it is under normal use.
Nov 22 02:32:31 <PatrickC> but, for me, it isnt bad
Nov 22 02:32:55 <PatrickC> recharge about 7-9 hours in
Nov 22 02:32:59 <PatrickC> depending on how much i use it
Nov 22 02:33:47 <hewball> ahh i use mine as my only phone, and at stock with latest uberkernel i get all day no problems, 7am to 10pm and still have battery left
Nov 22 02:34:07 <PatrickC> really?
Nov 22 02:34:10 <hewball> yups
Nov 22 02:34:19 <PatrickC> i use my pre3 heavily. like all the time
Nov 22 02:34:32 <PatrickC> it is my main phone (only use my pre- for calling/texting)
Nov 22 02:34:42 <PatrickC> other then that, the pre3 does it all
Nov 22 02:35:50 <EricBlade1> ok now i'm rebooting with the correct system
Nov 22 02:36:02 <PatrickC> so the 2.1 doctor finished?
Nov 22 02:36:16 <EricBlade1> yeah, there's tux. i forgot to turn off the change boot logo option, oopsie
Nov 22 02:36:28 <PatrickC> i love tux! :)
Nov 22 02:40:05 <EricBlade1> ok the 2.1 launcher looks a lot different
Nov 22 02:44:17 <EricBlade1> ok.. how to get logged into my profile now.. no first use app
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