**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 18 02:59:57 2011 Dec 18 03:24:59 Anyone experience the sms bug in 2.2.4? I havnt Dec 18 03:25:07 (it was present in 2.1.0) Dec 18 03:29:28 sms bug? Dec 18 03:30:44 Where you dont recieve sms until you reboot Dec 18 03:30:58 Happens randomly, but you can still send texts Dec 18 03:41:29 hey, quick question: when a verizon pre 2 is in dev mode while unactivated does it find a cell phone signal? Dec 18 03:42:47 No. Its not activated... Dec 18 03:42:55 Regardless if its in dev mode Dec 18 03:43:05 I figured Dec 18 03:43:12 Just checking if it was a problem with the radio or not Dec 18 03:43:18 well, enough of a signal to be able to call support or 911 Dec 18 03:43:20 Didn't know what the expected behavior was Dec 18 03:43:49 if there are no bars or evdo, you probably have a problem Dec 18 03:43:50 so I should be getting a signal if the phone isn't activated anyway? Dec 18 03:43:53 shit. Dec 18 03:44:05 yeah it's stuck on searching Dec 18 03:44:14 Thats a no-no :p Dec 18 03:44:34 it's a pre 2 that was originally a sprint frankenpre... Dec 18 03:44:43 Hoping I didn't screw up the device somehow Dec 18 03:44:48 but I don't see how that'd be possible. Dec 18 03:44:58 I was delicate with the connections...the device is freshly doctored.. Dec 18 03:45:06 With what doctor? Dec 18 03:45:17 stock vzw 2.1 doctor Dec 18 03:45:29 Try again Dec 18 03:45:50 here goes something Dec 18 03:54:34 in the meantime i'm gonna watch some danger 5 Dec 18 03:58:07 still searching. hm Dec 18 03:58:16 at least for the firstuse app Dec 18 03:59:41 calling *611 does nothing. stuck at connecting and does nothing. Dec 18 04:00:16 Hmm Dec 18 04:00:48 could it be a problem with the comms board? missing some data? Dec 18 04:01:11 is it even possible for that to happen in a frankenpre swap? Dec 18 04:01:24 You didnt tell me you have a frankenpre2 Dec 18 04:01:28 Of course it can Dec 18 04:01:35 this was a frankenpre2 before, yes Dec 18 04:01:49 the comms board was swapped and then swapped again Dec 18 04:02:00 yes. The comm board can become loose Dec 18 04:02:05 and that is probably the issue Dec 18 04:02:12 You need to take it apart and look Dec 18 04:02:29 I'll check now Dec 18 04:02:37 People easily mistaken that the commboard is attached when it is actually barely connected. Dec 18 04:02:57 You have to put a good amount of force. Dec 18 04:03:25 hm. well, I've got it right here, I'll check Dec 18 04:03:34 k Dec 18 04:08:32 alright Dec 18 04:08:37 pressed them in pretty tough Dec 18 04:08:41 here's hoping that was the issue Dec 18 04:09:40 did you see if it was in or just pressed the comm board down? Dec 18 04:10:37 I checked if it was in Dec 18 04:10:45 lifted the whole board up and pressed the connections in Dec 18 04:10:53 even checked if there was any wiggle. Dec 18 04:11:14 Mmk Dec 18 04:11:59 gonna put it together Dec 18 04:12:24 Just saying you took that Pre2 apart pretty fast Dec 18 04:12:48 This is a Pre2 with a Verizon comm board correct? Dec 18 04:13:03 yes Dec 18 04:13:08 it's not that hard really Dec 18 04:13:21 What isnt Dec 18 04:13:32 just take apart the screws, run your fingernail around the edge, use a lever to pop out the board Dec 18 04:13:52 Oh. Yeah its not. Dec 18 04:14:18 hm. if div wasn't connected properly what would happen then? Dec 18 04:17:30 Div? Dec 18 04:17:33 still searching Dec 18 04:17:39 the black wire, I mean Dec 18 04:17:42 :\ Dec 18 04:18:13 You mean it was loose? Hanging off the board? Dec 18 04:19:09 No, just curious Dec 18 04:19:19 Oh Dec 18 04:19:24 I dont know at this point Dec 18 04:19:37 yeah I'm running out of ideas. Dec 18 04:19:52 My only guess is to make sure you downloaded the proper doctor. Dec 18 04:21:49 ...I wonder if the cdma radio is shot. Dec 18 04:22:01 maybe I twisted a wire somewhere along the road Dec 18 04:23:06 Seems hardware related Dec 18 04:23:26 if I had to guess, yeah Dec 18 04:23:53 gonna try switching out the radio from my pre-... Dec 18 04:24:08 Did the radio work prior to swapping? Dec 18 04:25:12 hey guys. whats goin on? Dec 18 04:25:14 hey Abyssul Dec 18 04:25:52 it worked when I swapped from vzw to sprint Dec 18 04:26:36 but not when I went from sprint to vzw...not so much Dec 18 04:27:03 I used that frankenpre for a good six months with no reception issues, which is making this curious Dec 18 04:27:11 Hey Dec 18 04:27:23 well Dec 18 04:27:29 let's swap it out and see what happens Dec 18 04:30:09 p0rk2, the reason that it worked fine with sprint was it was a different comms board. ive messed up the contacts on a comms board before. it is something that can easily break if u put whatever youre using to pry the comms board off too far into the comms board Dec 18 04:31:56 ...that sucks. haha. Dec 18 04:32:20 PatrickC, I'm guessing the best solution here is trying a different comms board then? Dec 18 04:32:21 comm boards are easy to find Dec 18 04:32:31 p0rk2, yep Dec 18 04:32:31 brb Dec 18 04:32:34 Just find a broken Preplus on ebay or in the marketplace Dec 18 04:32:48 (with a good ESN i guess) Dec 18 04:32:56 and no signs of abuse to the board Dec 18 04:34:47 hm. Dec 18 04:35:02 the object I used to pry it out was a flathead screwdriver Dec 18 04:35:08 I can see that messing up the board... Dec 18 04:35:59 You can keep pocking at it Dec 18 04:36:04 poking* Dec 18 04:36:11 Wouldnt hurt Dec 18 04:36:14 yeah ideally I wouldn't have to pay for anything else Dec 18 04:36:21 unless you jab at the CPU Dec 18 04:36:34 i'll try not to do that :p Dec 18 04:37:25 just turned on the sprint pre, the comms board works on it Dec 18 04:37:45 I wonder if I just swap the board and doctor to a frankenpre it works Dec 18 04:37:56 if it does then that means the radio's fine and the board is bad Dec 18 04:38:12 if the signal still doesn't work that means it's the radio and I can just swap the whole backplate Dec 18 04:39:24 Something like that Dec 18 04:44:26 hmm Dec 18 04:44:30 Backplate looks fine... Dec 18 04:44:34 but I guess I can't say for sure Dec 18 04:52:09 think I should switch out the headphone jack? speakers? Dec 18 04:59:02 still searching. booo. Dec 18 04:59:09 looks like the comms board got shot. Dec 18 05:17:30 rwhitby, meta-sprint-franken-verizon-pre2-2.2.4 works for original Verizon Pre2's as well as frankenPre2s. Dec 18 05:18:30 did you try the test-verizon-pre2-2.2.4? Dec 18 07:08:11 hey all Dec 18 07:34:09 Dead in here tonight Dec 18 07:58:10 this is the all wrea, all of the time channel Dec 18 11:33:06 hi Dec 18 12:06:13 hi all Dec 18 16:22:45 so, I just received a prompt to update my pre2 to 2.2.4, after I'd already meta-doc'd to 2.2.4 Dec 18 16:32:30 Still nothing on my Pre 2 summatusmentis :( Dec 18 16:32:53 My volume buttons don't work after I did some tinkering so I think webOS Doctor is out of the question anyway Dec 18 16:36:08 why.... whydo the volume buttons affect doctoring? Dec 18 17:13:55 looking for more info on how to use Impostah Dec 18 17:17:39 Anyone? Dec 18 17:25:09 Like the description says....if I don't know what it is for or how to use it, then I should not not even attempt trying to figure it out...that sucks. Do you have to know programming to use it? Dec 18 17:26:27 there should be a wiki page on what it does Dec 18 17:28:05 oh, heh .. i see Dec 18 17:30:40 I clicked on the wiki page provided in the Impostah help menu...I know the other wiki page said what the basic description of it is in preware which I misqouted b Dec 18 17:30:45 above Dec 18 17:31:14 ladyklk: I think it's just that there's a lot of settings and things in there that can break your account/device connection Dec 18 17:31:42 I'll check again..thanks for your response bpadalino Dec 18 17:31:54 ladyklk: what do you want to achieve? Dec 18 18:07:48 would be great to restart the prefox project: firefox on pre... was a nice proof of concept but quite an old version of firefox mobile... Dec 18 18:08:32 now would certainly run much smoother, and with the 3 and tp memory and speed should be much better Dec 18 18:12:39 hoot Dec 18 18:15:32 ? Dec 18 19:10:46 hey all. How can I change the default app a file open with? Dec 18 19:15:34 anybody with 2.2.4 Pre2 have problem with sending sms ? Dec 18 19:30:33 Ok - so I get the widk running under linux, doom compiles and runs. I'm ready for the next step. How is the autobuild autopackage and access to the webos-internals git? Dec 18 20:08:18 bhuey, you around Dec 18 20:08:38 panel: I haven't had any issues Dec 18 20:15:40 Hi PuffTheMagic - time to discuss the webos internals git? Dec 18 20:17:59 did u get build.git to make you an ipk? Dec 18 20:18:08 or do u just need a repo for your project Dec 18 20:18:25 nop that's the point : can you point me out to this 'build.git'? Dec 18 20:18:38 i thought u found it yesterday Dec 18 20:18:40 I get the toolchain running and cross-compiled the example doom. Dec 18 20:19:00 http://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build/ Dec 18 20:19:03 what i did since yesterday is get the toolchain on linux - i was building on windows Dec 18 20:19:05 u have that cloned? Dec 18 20:19:05 ok Dec 18 20:19:13 doing that Dec 18 20:22:23 takes its time Dec 18 20:22:46 Sup Dec 18 20:25:33 cloning done Dec 18 20:27:24 ya, lotsa stuff happening in there Dec 18 20:34:08 hm - i can build e.g. duke. I guess I need an account now. Dec 18 20:36:05 tdo, email me a your ssh pub key rmh3093 at gmail Dec 18 20:40:22 done Dec 18 20:42:36 summatusmentis after full reset it works Dec 18 20:50:36 tdo, what do u want the name of the repo to be Dec 18 20:51:22 games/SnakeDuel Dec 18 20:51:39 description? Dec 18 20:52:55 "A two-player classic. Control your snake, avoid the borders, avoid that your competitor cuts your way, or push him to crash." Dec 18 20:53:00 License: BSD Dec 18 20:53:23 ok its gonna be snakeduel Dec 18 20:53:28 just cause everything else is lowercase ;) Dec 18 20:54:31 yes - that's very fine :) Dec 18 20:54:38 ok you are all set Dec 18 20:54:50 so - thanks a lot! Dec 18 20:55:14 setup your repo git@webosinternals.org:games/snakeduel Dec 18 20:55:16 next step for an sdl game is to take the makefile of another game and work from there? Dec 18 20:55:29 well get your code pushed and tagged first Dec 18 20:55:42 you know how to seed and empty repo? Dec 18 20:56:10 actually no Dec 18 20:56:44 tried a clone, but for an empty repo it doesn't work does it? Anyway got a publickey permission error (?) Dec 18 20:58:00 * dwc- suggests an edit to the description ... Control your snake, avoid running into the walls and the other snakes Dec 18 20:58:51 good point yes Dec 18 20:58:59 shorter Dec 18 20:59:02 tdo, in your dir where your source is do this Dec 18 20:59:16 git init; git remote add git@webosinternals.org:games/snakeduel Dec 18 20:59:18 git add . Dec 18 20:59:21 git commit -a Dec 18 20:59:25 git push origin master Dec 18 20:59:29 oops Dec 18 20:59:35 should have been Dec 18 20:59:38 git remote add origin git@webosinternals.org:games/snakeduel Dec 18 21:04:53 problem of publickey Dec 18 21:05:20 is there a cron reloading the keys at regular interval? Dec 18 21:05:52 (maybe empty passphrase is the issue here) Dec 18 21:10:22 i want to add an option to the meta-doctor's makefile, but not sure how... Dec 18 21:10:41 i need to extract files from the 2.2.4 doctor to place in the new doctor Dec 18 21:12:33 are there any estimates as to how many at&t pre3's are out in the wild? Dec 18 21:14:10 hey PuffTheMagic Dec 18 21:15:22 bhuey, are u just TP kernel or were you involved at all with the pre3 Dec 18 21:15:57 hi PuffTheM` Dec 18 21:15:59 oops Dec 18 21:16:00 only touchpad Dec 18 21:16:01 hi PuffTheMagic Dec 18 21:16:32 bhuey, do you know anyone who works/worked on the pre3 Dec 18 21:17:30 tdo, try now Dec 18 21:17:33 updated both your keys Dec 18 21:18:46 tryin Dec 18 21:19:04 hey PuffTheMagic, who would i contact about adding something to the makefile for the meta-doctor? Dec 18 21:19:23 PatrickC, rwhitby Dec 18 21:19:40 ok. i took a look at the makefile, it got real confusing real quick lol Dec 18 21:19:57 im guessing he's sleeping now. ill try to contact him tonight. thanks PuffTheMagic Dec 18 21:20:52 hes up Dec 18 21:20:56 prob just busy Dec 18 21:21:37 ah ok. rwhitby, whenever you get a chance, could you give me a buzz? i know how to enable MAP on 2.1 (not yet been able to get it working on 1.4.5) Dec 18 21:23:21 PuffTheMagic: private Dec 18 21:24:40 PatrickC: put it on a wiki page first Dec 18 21:24:57 rwhitby, ok. i think i need write privilages first Dec 18 21:25:11 PatrickC, im going to try and work out how to get ls2 working on older devices Dec 18 21:25:19 it hink thats all that keeping the bt stuff from working on 1.4.5 Dec 18 21:25:27 PatrickC, have you registered for the wiki? Dec 18 21:25:55 if i first saw it on precentral ( http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/276460-how-install-webos-2-1-0-pre-pre-using-meta-doctor-213.html#post3265408 ) should i check with the original poster before putting it on the wiki? Dec 18 21:26:03 ka6sox, i believe so. Dec 18 21:26:10 username? Dec 18 21:26:15 patrickc Dec 18 21:27:39 try to edit now please Dec 18 21:28:33 yep. i have an edit button now. Dec 18 21:28:33 thanks Dec 18 21:29:23 okay usse it well and wisely Dec 18 21:29:35 ive contacted the OP of the instructions. figured it would be nice to let him know what i wanted to do with his instructions. Dec 18 21:29:47 yes, good plan Dec 18 21:29:54 ka6sox, i will not abuse the privilage :) as i really dont want to be banned from this channel lol Dec 18 21:30:04 k Dec 18 21:31:06 thanks. ill wait to hear back from him before creating the page Dec 18 21:31:08 PuffTheMagic: ls2? Dec 18 21:36:49 tried - different error message :/ Dec 18 21:40:42 dkirker1, you about? Dec 18 21:41:17 ka6sox: yeah Dec 18 21:41:30 mind if I pm you? Dec 18 21:45:23 PatrickC, are you modding someone elses instructions? Dec 18 21:45:55 nope Dec 18 21:46:05 just relaying them somewhere theyll get more notice Dec 18 21:46:07 ka6sox: sure Dec 18 21:46:18 instructions located here http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/276460-how-install-webos-2-1-0-pre-pre-using-meta-doctor-213.html#post3265408 Dec 18 21:49:39 summatusmentis, luna-sevice 2 Dec 18 21:49:57 oh Dec 18 21:53:23 tdo, try again Dec 18 21:53:34 i had snakeduel in one place and SnakeDuel in another Dec 18 21:56:33 ok - push worked! Dec 18 21:57:56 welcome Dec 18 21:58:27 hiya nebula Dec 18 21:58:34 hey nebula Dec 18 21:58:46 yo yo Dec 18 21:59:02 so next step is the autobuild, right? Dec 18 21:59:27 do i get it right i need makefile in preware/build/(alpha-/beta-)apps/... Dec 18 21:59:59 tdo: yes, but start in build/nonworking so someone can review it before it goes in one of the feeds Dec 18 22:00:13 k Dec 18 22:00:36 tdo, take it from me...you don't want to be the guy who breaks the autobuilder :D Dec 18 22:00:49 if im not changing any instructions, do i have to wait for approval from the OP before i put his instructions/files on the wiki? Dec 18 22:00:53 ka6sox, lol Dec 18 22:00:59 * tdo got to be extra careful Dec 18 22:01:02 lol Dec 18 22:01:13 if its his work then yes Dec 18 22:01:17 or ask permission Dec 18 22:01:32 ok. i sent him a PM on P|C. ill wait for him to respond Dec 18 22:01:56 because unless it is under a license that allows you to do that...you can't and we don't want it. Dec 18 22:02:36 ok. Dec 18 22:04:04 also be aware this isn't www.dangerous-things-you-can-do-to-your-webos-device.org Dec 18 22:04:27 so publishing things that have a high potential to damage/destroy is not cool. Dec 18 22:04:40 ka6sox, his instructions create a backup of the original files by renaming them to .old so you can roll back to them if something happens Dec 18 22:05:05 and its something that even if someone forgets that step, they can always doctor if need be. but it should never come to that Dec 18 22:05:08 other than clogging up the system and running it out of space...no problem. Dec 18 22:05:23 i did it to my device a few days ago. seems to work fine Dec 18 22:05:31 PatrickC, that qualifies as www.dangerous-things-you-can-do-to-your-webos-device.org Dec 18 22:05:46 unless you can tell me it won't run you out of space on any partition. Dec 18 22:06:07 you wont. its a few small binary files. all of the files in a tar is only like 5.5MB Dec 18 22:06:21 thats the entire folder structure and everything Dec 18 22:06:31 url? Dec 18 22:06:39 http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/276460-how-install-webos-2-1-0-pre-pre-using-meta-doctor-213.html#post3265408 Dec 18 22:06:48 the getbt attachment Dec 18 22:06:55 i can give u the tar if u want. i already have one built Dec 18 22:07:34 ill PM u a link to the tar Dec 18 22:08:20 are the actual getBT a script or actual binary of Palm code? Dec 18 22:08:54 its a script that downloads the doctor and unpacks it, then builds a bt.tar of the files you need Dec 18 22:09:02 nice Dec 18 22:09:25 yep Dec 18 22:11:38 I wonder if we can make the scripts stable now? Dec 18 22:11:58 (public) Dec 18 22:20:20 Abyssul, what scripts? Dec 18 22:21:33 2.2.4 metadoctor Dec 18 22:22:10 ask the metadoctor guy :D Dec 18 22:22:52 * Abyssul pulls out blank imaginary list of WOSI members... Dec 18 22:23:21 rwhitby, would it be okay to make the 2.2.4 metadoctor scripts out of alpha or beta now? Dec 18 22:23:32 Abyssul: you mean this one? http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WhoIsWho Dec 18 22:23:49 Favorite'd that URL :) Dec 18 22:24:03 Abyssul, also the config file has the author right in it :D Dec 18 22:24:24 we have a who is who? Dec 18 22:24:29 Haha Dec 18 22:24:39 I like the high detailed descriptions Dec 18 22:25:02 I like mine Dec 18 22:25:38 * rwhitby bbl Dec 18 22:26:40 lets see... Dec 18 22:27:05 hey sconix! Dec 18 22:37:23 hmm... http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/New_Bluetooth .. interesting Dec 18 22:40:17 bbl Dec 18 23:36:43 hey Dec 18 23:59:45 I actually got sleep last night. Feeling pretty good today Dec 19 00:00:15 * Abyssul waits patiently for the 2.2.4 source code Dec 19 00:08:57 trying to compile node-dbus Dec 19 00:12:29 when i try to pass --verbose it segfaults Dec 19 00:18:10 is the visualboyadvanced app still in preware? i cant find it... http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:VBA Dec 19 00:19:21 Yea, I just downloaded it yesterday Dec 19 00:19:24 What device? Dec 19 00:19:37 It might not be compatible with Veer and TP Dec 19 00:19:45 (or Pre3) Dec 19 00:19:48 touchpad Dec 19 00:19:56 Its not available on TP Dec 19 00:20:31 darn Dec 19 02:28:30 * rwhitby decides not to tweet about the lastest meta-doctor commit Dec 19 02:29:13 rwhitby, lol Dec 19 02:29:48 Rofl Dec 19 02:30:34 Only like 5 people have one of those Dec 19 02:32:08 need to test dbus again to make sure everything still works Dec 19 02:34:42 rwhitby, can you tweet that the scripts are public and stable now? Dec 19 02:34:48 (metadoctor for 2.2.4) Dec 19 02:34:55 Abyssul: but those 5 absolutely need a doctor :) Dec 19 02:35:04 Abyssul: no more changes? Dec 19 02:35:05 True. Dec 19 02:35:26 I dont see any changes. Ive been following reports the past couple of days Dec 19 02:35:36 I dont see any problems except for user error Dec 19 02:36:02 the test-verizon-2.2.4 script by that other dude is still alpha though Dec 19 02:36:29 gotta love user error, keeps as all insane Dec 19 02:36:40 He just revised it a few hours ago, but I think his latest attempt should work. I guess he needs some success stories first though Dec 19 02:37:03 Abyssul: if you point me to one that works, I'll update the git Dec 19 02:37:08 Alright Dec 19 02:37:16 but first, lunch. Dec 19 02:37:30 rwhitby. http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/276460-how-install-webos-2-1-0-pre-pre-using-meta-doctor-215.html#post3267579 Dec 19 02:39:23 Apparently 2.2.4 supports CIFS? No clue what that is Dec 19 02:39:56 Abyssul, It does? Dec 19 02:40:19 Thats what a little birdie told me Dec 19 02:40:23 Its used to access windows shares Dec 19 02:42:10 good, they're starting to incorporate some kernel patches Dec 19 02:42:43 by WOSI? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 19 02:59:58 2011