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Dec 26 03:41:02 <frankgg> hello everyone, I just uninstalled preware on my HP touchpad to enable the beta feeds )post 3.0.4 update).  When I reinstalled Preware, the "package updates" and "available updates" options are greyed out, not selectable
Dec 26 03:41:10 <frankgg> does anyone know why this would be happening?
Dec 26 03:41:30 <frankgg> I have restarted the touchpad a couple times now, still no love
Dec 26 03:41:45 <antijingoist> maybe you don't have updates?
Dec 26 03:42:14 <frankgg> I'm sorry, the second greyed out option is "available packages"
Dec 26 03:42:24 <frankgg> so I can't install anything
Dec 26 03:42:39 <antijingoist> make sure to select the feeds in manage feeds?
Dec 26 03:43:22 <frankgg> yeah, I've checked those, all the normal ones are selected, and I also selected the beta kernal feeds too
Dec 26 03:44:11 <antijingoist> I had this problem before. I forgot how I fixed it. Gonna try and remember.
Dec 26 03:44:21 <frankgg> lol
Dec 26 03:44:28 <frankgg> good to know I'm not the only one
Dec 26 03:45:06 <frankgg> (running preware 1.9.7, just installed within the last hour)
Dec 26 03:46:15 <antijingoist> oh, you know. the problem I had was missing installed packages
Dec 26 03:47:45 <antijingoist> you do have internet access right?
Dec 26 03:48:16 <frankgg> yep, brb sorry
Dec 26 03:49:14 <frankgg> yeah
Dec 26 03:49:34 <frankgg> when preware starts up, it runs thru loading the feeds like normal
Dec 26 03:50:33 <frankgg> oh wait, we turned off / on the wifi and restarted preware and now available packages is selectable
Dec 26 03:50:55 <frankgg> I guess all is good then
Dec 26 03:50:58 <frankgg> :-)
Dec 26 03:51:08 <frankgg> thanks for the help!
Dec 26 03:55:11 <antijingoist> :-) awesome
Dec 26 04:18:22 <adrenaline_> So my Xserver is installed but is not in Xecutah? Does anybody know how to get it in the Xecutah?
Dec 26 04:19:03 <adrenaline_> When I click xserver it says it needs Xecutah to run, but when I click Xecutah Xserver is not in there. there is Ubuntu and xterm
Dec 26 04:19:04 <antijingoist> it doesnt show seperately anymore
Dec 26 04:19:20 <antijingoist> just tap xterm or ubuntu directly
Dec 26 04:19:25 <antijingoist> itll run automatically
Dec 26 04:19:59 <adrenaline_> oh really? so what your are saying is it is normal?
Dec 26 04:20:05 <antijingoist> yep.
Dec 26 04:20:16 <adrenaline_> ok then how do I start an x session?
Dec 26 04:20:16 <antijingoist> used to show up, and you had to tap it seperately.
Dec 26 04:20:33 <antijingoist> itll run automatically when you tap xterm or ubuntu
Dec 26 04:21:26 <adrenaline_> Do I have to install a windowmanager or is there one already? It seems to drop to a cli
Dec 26 04:21:57 <antijingoist> yep. you need to install the window manager seperately.
Dec 26 04:22:34 <adrenaline_> What do you use? I like xfce. if I install htat will it autoboot to that or do I have to tell it to somehow?
Dec 26 04:22:47 <antijingoist> after you install it, you can run it from the cli
Dec 26 04:22:58 <adrenaline_> startx?
Dec 26 04:23:02 <antijingoist> nope
Dec 26 04:23:06 <antijingoist> x is already started
Dec 26 04:23:34 <antijingoist> for example
Dec 26 04:23:42 <adrenaline_> so if I installed xfce will it be the default wm?
Dec 26 04:24:04 <wrea> hey all
Dec 26 04:24:32 <antijingoist> if you just install xfce, you will run it by typing xfce or xfce-session, or whatever the command is for it now
Dec 26 04:24:39 <adrenaline_> Now when I click ubuntu it goes to a grey screen but if I tap it it goes ot a cli
Dec 26 04:24:53 <adrenaline_> Ok I will try that
Dec 26 04:25:01 <adrenaline_> Is there not a default one?
Dec 26 04:25:07 <antijingoist> no.
Dec 26 04:25:25 <adrenaline_> Ok cuz I did try gnome-session and it didn't work hehe
Dec 26 04:27:53 <antijingoist> yea.. you might need extra work to install gnome.
Dec 26 04:28:04 <antijingoist> I don't know if thats still the case because I don't use it.
Dec 26 04:29:27 <adrenaline_> xfce will be fine
Dec 26 04:30:01 <adrenaline_> All I really want to do is mount an nfs share and stream music is that too much to ask from a tablet
Dec 26 04:30:41 <antijingoist> read docs. :)
Dec 26 04:30:48 <antijingoist> you might have to configure some stuff
Dec 26 04:30:56 <adrenaline_> Dude I have been readin all day
Dec 26 04:31:02 <adrenaline_> That is how I got ubuntu on it
Dec 26 04:43:42 <adrenaline_> Thanks for the advice antijingoist it worked, but now there is a ton more broken stuff lol. This is a lot of work just to watch a movie
Dec 26 04:44:37 <antijingoist> Yea, i don't think xfce is a straight-forward install.
Dec 26 04:44:48 <antijingoist> if you want easy and quick, try icewm
Dec 26 04:50:02 <adrenaline_> ok cool do you know how to right click with this keyboard?
Dec 26 04:52:34 <antijingoist> you don't. you modify your x-server to detect a long press as a right click.
Dec 26 04:52:40 <antijingoist> I haven't done it yet though.
Dec 26 04:53:33 <adrenaline_> nice you have all of the answers
Dec 26 04:54:10 <adrenaline_> Hey what do you think about a bluetooth mouse you think that might sink up?
Dec 26 15:59:26 <Davide-NYC> I've been experiencing a critical bug on my AT&T Pre 3 for months now. I was hoping it would be fixed with the 2.2.4 update, but alas it's still here.
Dec 26 16:00:27 <Davide-NYC> http://goo.gl/Ur0XB
Dec 26 16:00:43 <Davide-NYC> Is that the correct place to report said bug?
Dec 26 16:01:14 <Davide-NYC> For the logs: the phone freezes completely while in standby randomly.
Dec 26 16:06:30 <panel> hello
Dec 26 16:10:23 <Davide-NYC> panel: don't be shy
Dec 26 16:16:04 <EricBlade> "Cursing mostly" haha
Dec 26 16:16:33 <EricBlade> you may want to seek a warranty repair/replacement
Dec 26 16:18:11 <madnificent> is there a place i should direct feature requests with respect to patches?  my dad would like to be able to pinch to zoom in the calendar app.  i should be able to edit the css to make the font bigger, but i have no idea how i'd handle the pinch to zoom thing.
Dec 26 16:21:39 <Davide-NYC> EricBlade: It's a Pre 3. What warranty?
Dec 26 16:22:54 <EricBlade> dunno, i assume that they are honoring the warranties for them, but i'm not versed in that
Dec 26 16:32:37 <dwc-> you should start by removing all your patches....
Dec 26 16:55:35 <sethron> has anyone noticed massive battery drain whilst connected to wifi on a franken unlocked pre2 w/2.2.4?
Dec 26 17:12:32 <PatrickC> ok. script is almost built! :D
Dec 26 17:13:27 <PatrickC> question for someone who has knowledge of the meta-doctor scriptws
Dec 26 17:13:28 <PatrickC> scripts*
Dec 26 17:23:53 <dwc-> they're shell scripts
Dec 26 17:25:57 <PatrickC> not sure where/how to add what i need.. i think i know, but not sure
Dec 26 17:27:08 <PatrickC> anyone in here have a sprint pre- that is activated/can be easily activated that can test this for me?
Dec 26 17:27:10 <cryptk> PatrickC, I have noticed some extra battery drain, but I am also on vacation and very frequently in areas where I have no signal
Dec 26 17:27:20 <PatrickC> cryptk, hmm?
Dec 26 17:27:23 <cryptk> and I have a franken Pre2 on 2.2.4
Dec 26 17:27:31 * PatrickC needs someone on 2.1
Dec 26 17:27:39 <cryptk> but I can't say if it is 2.2.4 causing it, or if it is because I have no signal ;)
Dec 26 17:27:41 <PatrickC> this is testing putting MAP bluetooth onto a pre-
Dec 26 17:27:48 <cryptk> ahh
Dec 26 17:27:59 <sethron> cryptk: i asked about battery frain
Dec 26 17:28:07 <cryptk> ahh, my bad
Dec 26 17:28:21 <cryptk> well, all that stuff previously... s/PatrickC/sethron/
Dec 26 17:28:39 <PatrickC> i have a sprint pre2 2.2.4 and the battery life is fine on it
Dec 26 17:29:22 <cryptk> anyway, gotta run
Dec 26 17:29:23 <cryptk> later all
Dec 26 17:29:26 <sethron> its a give and take, 2.2.4 has swipeable profiles, yet seems to dran more thatn usual while connected to wifi
Dec 26 17:30:40 <PatrickC> i have a script ready for someone to test.
Dec 26 17:31:53 * sethron ponders something has to be done to my gutted Pre- and GSM radio
Dec 26 17:32:43 <PatrickC> put them together and make a frankenpre- :)
Dec 26 17:33:28 <sethron> PatrickC: is there a meta-script for that?
Dec 26 17:33:39 <PatrickC> i believe so
Dec 26 17:34:20 <PatrickC> meta-wfranken-sprint-pre-2.1.0
Dec 26 17:34:37 <PatrickC> meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0*
Dec 26 17:35:47 <sethron> hmmm
Dec 26 17:35:58 <PatrickC> iirc thats what youll need
Dec 26 17:36:07 <PatrickC> i havent run it before. havent needed to :)
Dec 26 17:36:37 <sethron> not sure i can even do that without a volume up botton
Dec 26 17:36:52 <PatrickC> yep
Dec 26 17:36:53 <PatrickC> u can
Dec 26 17:36:58 <PatrickC> as long as u can get novaterm access
Dec 26 17:37:21 <PatrickC> was it/is it in developer mode?
Dec 26 17:37:31 <sethron> i have not attempted to turn it on since swapping the comm board
Dec 26 17:37:43 <PatrickC> was it/is it in developer mode?
Dec 26 17:37:49 <sethron> probably
Dec 26 17:38:05 <PatrickC> if it was in dev mode, and still is, then u can get it into recover mode from the command line
Dec 26 17:38:17 <PatrickC> its how i always do it for mine. and i have working volume up buttons :)
Dec 26 17:38:57 <sethron> ya, tellbootie recover | maybe later tonight i'll give it a shot, if i can reassemble it :0
Dec 26 17:39:09 <PatrickC> lol
Dec 26 17:39:23 <sethron> i'll have to bypass activation as well
Dec 26 17:39:31 <PatrickC> that can be done with the meta-doctor
Dec 26 17:39:42 <sethron> yup
Dec 26 17:44:15 <sethron> i did not erase my Pre- before franken operation, so i worry about powering it back on
Dec 26 17:45:26 <PatrickC> itll be fine
Dec 26 17:45:33 <PatrickC> it wont do anything. not in my experience
Dec 26 17:45:39 <PatrickC> and ive done the frankenpre before too
Dec 26 17:46:30 <sethron> i guess with a gsm radio in there, not too much to worry about
Dec 26 17:53:24 <RichT23> =)
Dec 26 17:53:41 <PatrickC> hey RichT23 long time no see :)
Dec 26 17:54:56 <RichT23> hello PatrickC, yes a while =)
Dec 26 17:55:58 <PatrickC> u have a sprint pre- thats activated? :)
Dec 26 17:56:00 <PatrickC> hey dkirker
Dec 26 17:56:11 <dkirker> hi PatrickC
Dec 26 17:57:25 <PatrickC> hows it going dkirker?
Dec 26 17:58:20 <dkirker> one sec and I'll tell you
Dec 26 17:58:29 <PatrickC> ok lol
Dec 26 17:58:38 <dkirker> good
Dec 26 17:58:49 <dkirker> I was afraid that this weekly meeting was going to be canceled...
Dec 26 17:58:58 <PatrickC> that wouldnt have been good
Dec 26 17:59:04 <PatrickC> where are u working now?
Dec 26 18:00:22 <dkirker> I've had a contract for a small startup in SF for the last 1.5 years. Just working more hours there.
Dec 26 18:00:31 <dkirker> And doing wosi stuffs
Dec 26 18:00:36 <PatrickC> nice
Dec 26 18:00:46 <PatrickC> im in the process of making a meta-doctor script.
Dec 26 18:01:04 <PatrickC> and also working on this http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/MAP_Bluetooth_Legacy_Devices
Dec 26 18:02:20 <dkirker> nice
Dec 26 18:02:44 <PatrickC> yep
Dec 26 18:02:54 * PatrickC bbl
Dec 26 18:02:59 <dkirker> have fun
Dec 26 18:03:02 <PatrickC> getting ready to leave for aunts house :)
Dec 26 18:03:05 <PatrickC> thanks
Dec 26 18:03:25 <PatrickC> if anyone wants to test the pre- script that inclused MAP bluetooth, email me.. patrickappcreator @gmail.com
Dec 26 18:04:39 <PatrickC> bbl
Dec 26 18:05:13 <RichT23> cya PatrickC
Dec 26 18:18:13 <Davide-NYC> dmc: without patches I have the same issue.
Dec 26 18:44:57 <IceXtreme> Hi everyone, does anyone knows where I can get hold of gtalk for HP touchpad?
Dec 26 18:44:58 <IceXtreme> :)
Dec 26 18:50:04 <sethron> IceXtreme: Messaging | Preferences & Accounts | Add Account | Google
Dec 26 19:00:50 <RichT23> i think IceXtreme is looking for the code
Dec 26 19:21:28 <IceXtreme> yup :)
Dec 26 19:21:35 <IceXtreme> if-possible
Dec 26 19:26:02 <dwc-> opensource.palm.com
Dec 26 19:26:49 <dwc-> if it's available, it's there, if not, then it won't be
Dec 26 19:29:30 * sethron guesses it's in imlibpurple* or imaccountvalidator
Dec 26 20:23:19 <Gnar> hey i was trying to do a clean install of webos and rather than uninstall android I just ran webosdoctor. However my partition tables are jacked up now.
Dec 26 20:23:20 <Gnar> [12:14] <Gnar> is there a way to reset the partition tables to default and format them entirely?
Dec 26 20:23:20 <Gnar> [12:14] <Gnar> if i reinstall cyanogen will it shrink my partition again?
Dec 26 20:44:28 <dwc-> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover
Dec 26 21:22:18 <EricBlade> how to recover?  first, admit you have a problem
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