**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 28 02:59:57 2011 Dec 28 03:03:44 i found the scripts in saverestore contrib, but they look to be run from app.. CLI? Dec 28 07:19:46 hey all Dec 28 07:22:21 hey you Dec 28 07:23:12 hows it going? Dec 28 07:23:51 better than a sharp stick in the Eye... Dec 28 07:24:30 now if I could just get Eagle to be nice and let me print this schematic as a png. Dec 28 07:25:03 eagle? nice? Dec 28 07:25:26 humm, schematic? I'm curious Dec 28 07:25:59 console port Dec 28 07:26:12 yeah... this mean you got it figured out? Dec 28 07:26:24 something like that. Dec 28 07:26:55 need a better adapter though...the one I made is kind of clunky Dec 28 07:27:53 :D Dec 28 07:29:21 I'd rather go from USB to 4 ring 3.5mm direct Dec 28 07:31:19 * jcsullins doesn't care about clunky, just cares about worky Dec 28 07:32:21 okay, I will publish that too...the UBE stuff) Dec 28 07:50:27 hello Dec 28 09:12:02 hi Dec 28 09:12:59 anyone knows if it is possible to disable the "charging" sound when putting a Pre3 on the touchstone under webos 2.2.4 ? Dec 28 09:23:50 I believe there are patches for that for other versions, the patch for 2.2.4 should be similar, if nobody has ported it yet Dec 28 09:27:28 dwc-: there are patches for older versions but not for 2.2.4 Dec 28 09:29:55 well, try it/fix it/post it, or politely ask the author to update it (or offer a bounty for someone else to do it) or sit tight then Dec 28 09:57:36 folks Dec 28 09:57:56 * bhuey officially on vacation in San Diego (hometown) Dec 28 11:49:45 what's the best way to cleanup patches after an OTA update ? Dec 28 13:24:26 Hi, has someone tried to do the folowing on PalmPre2 - 2.6.24-palm-joplin-3430 ? http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/USB_Host_Mode Dec 28 13:31:26 Could someone breakdown the faux init runlevels and what they do in webOS? It seems like they may not function quite the same as other distros. Dec 28 13:39:49 anyone successfully ran a 2.2.4 metadoctor for verizon pre2? Dec 28 14:39:07 So it seems like it ignores rc1-6 and only acknowledges S and H Dec 28 14:42:42 what's tha? Dec 28 14:43:41 webOS' sysinit backward compatibility Dec 28 15:06:32 should I have to use the remove_carrier_check in my Makefile when trying to build a 2.2.4 doctor for my vz pre2? Dec 28 15:59:24 rwhitby: I'm running through http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_Plus#Baking_tokens_into_the_meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0_script so that I can verify and/or correct the wiki. Can you confirm that this step is correct? Dec 28 15:59:39 1. Let's unpack the 2.1.0 jar Dec 28 15:59:40 make VERSION=2.1.0 DEVICE=preplus CARRIER=wr unpack Dec 28 17:00:55 is here anyone who had luck on fiddling with the camera on an palm pre (-) ? Dec 28 17:26:15 DThought, good question....is it v4l2 compliant? Dec 28 17:30:16 GNUtoo: no clue. The internal workings does use gstreamer Dec 28 17:30:49 doing a test-v4l app might be a possibility Dec 28 17:30:50 ok Dec 28 17:31:05 (i want rework an old unused pre plus into a wireless webcam) Dec 28 17:31:48 ok Dec 28 17:31:59 with gstreamer that's easy Dec 28 17:32:21 v4l2src ! some_compression ! updsink Dec 28 17:32:42 yeah. :-P Dec 28 17:33:18 there is a (palm-own) camsrc... Dec 28 17:33:40 and it emits an error every time (can't allocate pad buffer i think) Dec 28 17:37:50 i'm just redoctoring my leftover phone, so i can't look at it :/ Dec 28 17:39:14 I have a sprint Palm Pre sitting around in really good shape. anyone want/need one for dev work? Dec 28 17:40:54 hmmm I just got one with broken touchscreen and am waiting for hp/palm to release the source of novacom, so I'll guess you would need to find someone else, maybe ask in #openmoko-cdevel Dec 28 17:41:49 ah Dec 28 17:41:51 ERROR: from element /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstV4l2Src:v4l2src0: gst_pad_alloc_buffer_and_set_caps failed Dec 28 17:41:57 (I've been unable to make precomm work with bootie) Dec 28 17:41:57 this is the error Dec 28 17:42:09 hmmmm Dec 28 17:42:15 what are the possible caps? Dec 28 17:42:32 maybe uses the camsrc from palm Dec 28 17:42:36 or something like that Dec 28 17:42:56 camsrc ! palmjpegencfilesink is the pipeline i tried Dec 28 17:43:50 try to replace palmjpegencfilesink by something else then Dec 28 17:51:57 DThought, where did you get vrl2src btw? you cross-compiled it for your palm pre? Dec 28 17:52:48 ah indeed using camsrc Dec 28 17:54:12 yes... thats a modified v4lsrc as far as i can tel Dec 28 17:57:01 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/VideoRecording Dec 28 17:58:34 SIGSEGV Dec 28 17:58:36 but it segfault for me Dec 28 17:58:39 yes for me too Dec 28 17:58:53 with udpsink + video encoding + camsrc.... Dec 28 17:59:16 maybe recompile gstreamer and try out to find the cause.... Dec 28 17:59:23 and read the sources too while you're at it Dec 28 18:01:31 okay, thanks :) there are a few occassions where ppl have tried it in the irc logs of this channel... but don't find a "hey, THAT works" Dec 28 18:03:42 maybe with a chroot? Dec 28 18:12:12 segfault in the chroot too Dec 28 20:08:32 folks Dec 28 20:12:21 howdy bhuey Dec 28 20:24:09 hey Dec 28 20:46:27 hey all Dec 28 21:18:23 hi mal... I bave a pb with preware... Stuck at the "reading saved package list" step... Can someone help me ? Dec 28 21:25:27 none dans Bell me ? Dec 28 23:23:54 when you do a "Full Erase" from Settings/Device Info/Reset Options ... does it recreate the filesystem for /media/internal ? Dec 28 23:26:29 jcsullins: it does a wipe. I doubt that it will fix partitions Dec 28 23:27:28 I'm just thinking re-mkfs for /media/internal ... Dec 28 23:55:55 wow... really? http://techrights.org/2011/12/26/boycott-apple-debated/ Dec 29 00:01:30 * Jack87 still hasnt opened the free ipad2 he received due to apple's evilness Dec 29 00:02:30 hiya Dec 29 00:02:50 Jack87, send it my way :P Dec 29 00:03:13 tried a fix for mobile hotspot but now i feel stoopid, want to remove the file i uploaded but its now marked as read only in etc/event.d Dec 29 00:03:43 how do i change it so i can rm it? Dec 29 00:05:54 Hrm, this whole HSPA+ article on webOSnation has me intrigued... does one get the H+ icon stock out of a Pre 3, or is there a Preware patch to get it? Dec 29 00:12:36 if they're so evil, how come I didn't get one Dec 29 00:13:08 ? Dec 29 00:14:57 you can always change the icon, but that's not what the precentral article is talking about Dec 29 00:25:45 dwc-: I mean in the comments section.. people there talk about getting a H+ icon... Dec 29 00:26:19 ALso... my dear partners Pre 2 is in a boot loop... going to attempt a doctor. As of 1.3.1 says webosinternals, the USB side does not get wiped, correct still? Dec 29 00:31:15 the symbol will show up if you have H+ Dec 29 00:32:08 dwc-: strange... I guess Telstra in AU isn't doing full HSPA+ then :( Dec 29 00:32:27 ugh... Palm Profile page is stuffed too Dec 29 00:32:30 Tomcat errur Dec 29 01:17:16 for anyone who knows how freetether works, there shouldn't be any significant difference in bandwidth available to the phone itself, versus whatever is connected to the phone, right? Dec 29 01:27:04 EricBlade: sounds right Dec 29 01:27:14 its just routing Dec 29 01:29:52 hmm. i'm noticing that Pandora on phone works surprisingly well with my extremely poor bandwidth cell connection.. but on TouchPad, it's .. significantly worse. Dec 29 01:30:25 EricBlade: latency will of course be increased Dec 29 01:31:07 true. i'm just trying to pin it on either differences in OS or variances in the cell data connection from moment to moment Dec 29 01:31:31 pandora on the phone might be accessing a different stream? Dec 29 01:32:00 haven't looked at the app(s) but one might be looking at your EDGE and saying "this isn't 3g or wifi" Dec 29 01:35:36 it does look like webOS 2 continues streaming when media is paused, but 3 doesn't Dec 29 01:42:53 and then it throws out the streamed data when you unpause Dec 29 01:42:54 lol Dec 29 01:43:54 so I just overcooked my touchpad and am wondering about the performance setting Dec 29 01:44:19 is that too much for into handle cause I noticed both CPUs were at 1.5 Dec 29 01:44:26 you set it to "performance" governor? did you read the help entry for that? Dec 29 01:45:05 do you keep your car revving at 5000RPM when you're sitting stopped at the traffic lights? Dec 29 01:45:41 k that's exactly what I thought Dec 29 01:46:11 rwhitby: how else would i leave rubber marks at all the intersections? Dec 29 01:46:16 of course I do Dec 29 01:46:34 * EricBlade hasn't had a license for 7 years :| Dec 29 01:46:34 how do I make risk that the second one will run faster though.it is lagging when trying to watch stuff online Dec 29 01:46:37 ? Dec 29 01:47:25 I should have said with out it running that way all the time. Dec 29 02:13:37 Anyone got thoughts on my question above re doctoring and USB? Dec 29 02:17:44 lingfish: didn't see the question Dec 29 02:19:16 ALso... my dear partners Pre 2 is in a boot loop... going to attempt a doctor. As of 1.3.1 says webosinternals, the USB side does not get wiped, correct still? Dec 29 02:19:29 ... or should I try something else other than a doctor Dec 29 02:19:53 It's odd... the charging screen comes up for 2-3 mins, then blank, seems to reboot maybe? Then back to charge Dec 29 02:20:54 Reason I ask re USB is because obviously, I can't get to the damn USB to back it up Dec 29 02:26:13 is it a feankenpre2? Dec 29 02:30:06 nah, unless I don't get what a franken is... no special hacks etc Dec 29 02:30:59 getting device not recog'd... and holding up vol and plugging in USB doesn't give me USB mode Dec 29 02:31:54 to get usb recovery mode, you turn the phone off then power it on while holding vol up Dec 29 02:32:25 what are you trying to doctor it with? Dec 29 02:32:33 memboot it, and do a meta-doctor "make backup" Dec 29 02:32:46 you should always assume a doctor is going to wipe the dvice Dec 29 02:33:23 Yeah, and if it doesnt, its a bonus Dec 29 02:39:46 kevets_: yep, as just stated, trying that and it ain't working :( Dec 29 02:39:50 rwhitby: right, will attempt that. Dec 29 02:40:15 The reboot loop is strange though... almost as if the batt is stuffed and it just decides to restart before even fully booting Dec 29 02:43:10 that's usually a kernel panic Dec 29 02:43:30 you can find out by vol-up interrupting the boot then extracting the klog Dec 29 02:50:02 rwhitby: as I plug in USB, or a different trick for interrupt? Dec 29 02:50:16 normal recovery mode Dec 29 02:55:27 hmm. Dec 29 02:57:09 I still get batt charge with red line symbol for a while after... does it take a while for the USB symbol to appear? Not my recollection... Dec 29 02:57:22 can i ask if anyone has the sprint prl update? having problems updating this frankenpre2 Dec 29 02:59:05 i deactivated a sprint frankenpre2 in oct, and having problems re-activating now Dec 29 02:59:08 wonder if its prl related **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 29 02:59:57 2011