**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 30 02:59:59 2012
Jan 30 03:00:19 <oldtopman> I mean, I know how to *use* it, but I don't know how to do anything with it, get what I mean?
Jan 30 03:00:38 <oldtopman> I deleted the linux partition, now to see if I can extend the media one...
Jan 30 03:02:51 <oldtopman> resizing :3
Jan 30 03:03:14 <oldtopman> So when this finishes, I have to run the "Secure wipe suspect"
Jan 30 03:04:15 <ka6sox> I can't remember which ones to use
Jan 30 03:05:11 <oldtopman> Ah well, I'll figure something out.
Jan 30 04:03:10 <PatrickC> hmm.. now to figure out how to reset the tokens on that phone so it can communicate with the servers....
Jan 30 04:24:33 <juan413> For some reason anytime I try to install a package from preware such as ad blocker, it supposedly installs, then it restarts Luna, and when its back to normal the package never installed, I have no idea what to do, help would be appreciated, thanks.
Jan 30 04:25:26 <rwhitby> what does /var/log/messages say happened?
Jan 30 05:10:18 <oc80z> thoughts on the kde tablet
Jan 30 05:10:22 <oc80z> kde for webos
Jan 30 05:10:24 <oc80z> tablet
Jan 30 05:10:56 <oc80z> webos+kde whatever man, fuck ios corporate greed
Jan 30 05:11:13 <wrea> what the language in here
Jan 30 06:17:43 <bhuey> folks
Jan 30 06:18:01 <PatrickC> hey bhuey
Jan 30 13:54:08 <kevets__> is there a way to add commands to the xecutah main screen like xterm
Jan 30 13:54:16 <kevets__> like if one wanted to execute a script
Jan 30 14:10:51 <hewball> HP Australia seem to have stock of touchpad keyboards, cases and touchstones again
Jan 30 16:08:09 <xcomp_> win 9
Jan 30 16:08:14 <xcomp_> er..oops
Jan 30 17:45:05 <kevets_> anyone get python to install using ipkg-opt install?
Jan 30 18:01:58 <dwc-> haven't tried, what's your issue
Jan 30 18:10:33 <bhuey> folks
Jan 30 18:12:52 <summatusmentis> bhuey
Jan 30 18:15:01 <RagingMind> bhuey, whenever I see your nick I think of Duck Tails
Jan 30 18:15:57 <oilsworkn> lol
Jan 30 18:20:20 <PatrickC> lookes like ill be getting that borked pre2 replaced
Jan 30 18:22:29 <kevets_> dwc-: I think I'm running low on space in /opt
Jan 30 18:22:53 <kevets_> ipkg-opt install python25 worked but complained about no free space available
Jan 30 18:28:58 * bhuey can breath clearly
Jan 30 18:37:51 <PatrickC> bah, stupid windows
Jan 30 18:38:04 <PatrickC> or android. not sure which one made windows crash lol
Jan 30 18:55:34 <dwc-> kevets_: then that sounds like your issue
Jan 30 18:56:44 <kevets_> so if it didn't install fully cause of free space - I need to get /opt more free space - I see its at like 96% when I do a du
Jan 30 18:57:06 <kevets_> I do have the cm9 dual boot installed - not entirely sure if that is taking space away right there
Jan 30 18:57:31 <PatrickC> i dont think cm9 installs anything in /opt (i could be wrong)
Jan 30 18:58:26 <kevets_> yeah I didn't think so - /opt itself is only like 126MB it looks like
Jan 30 18:58:40 <PatrickC> ls -l /opt
Jan 30 18:58:54 <kevets_> I think I filled it up screwing with optware stuff
Jan 30 19:01:27 <kevets_> how big is your /opt if you do a du | more
Jan 30 19:02:58 <PatrickC> not sure, dont have a phone near me that has webOS on it
Jan 30 19:03:51 <ka6sox> kevets_, do you have an ext3 partition or are you using the cryptofs?
Jan 30 19:05:13 <kevets_> looks like cryptofs
Jan 30 19:10:06 <kevets_> just ran ipkg-opt remove on a bunch of junk I installed... looks like emacs and a few other things were huge
Jan 30 19:10:20 <kevets_> gonna try installing python again
Jan 30 19:12:49 <dwc-> should be a loopfs on the cryptofs
Jan 30 19:13:04 <dwc-> relatively easy to resize if you want
Jan 30 19:13:31 <kevets_> aw snap
Jan 30 19:13:46 <kevets_> after freeing up space, python installed clean, and GoogleCL installed clean :)
Jan 30 19:16:00 <kevets_> https://www.box.net/shared/4pt8ps38bj6a0x9dfmdv$
Jan 30 19:16:04 <kevets_> https://www.box.net/shared/4pt8ps38bj6a0x9dfmdv
Jan 30 19:16:08 <kevets_> 2nd one
Jan 30 19:19:22 <ka6sox> kevets_, if you are going to start doing more work with optware, I suggest you partition and put ext3fs before you create the optware bootstrap
Jan 30 19:19:32 <ka6sox> its the preferred method for many reasons
Jan 30 19:19:41 <dwc-> or at least resize your loopfs
Jan 30 19:19:53 <kevets_> yeah I think that might be necessary
Jan 30 19:19:55 <ka6sox> loopfs has "issues"
Jan 30 19:20:12 <ka6sox> namely, when you go into USB mode the FS is disconnected
Jan 30 19:20:15 <kevets_> I don't necessarily want it to run ubuntu
Jan 30 19:20:21 <kevets_> I just want more space for /opt stuffs
Jan 30 19:20:24 <ka6sox> so things that attempt to write to it...sorta die
Jan 30 19:20:38 <dwc-> I thought it doesn't get disconnected... just suspende
Jan 30 19:20:39 <ka6sox> kevets_, then partition and add an ext3fs partition
Jan 30 19:20:39 <dwc-> d
Jan 30 19:20:43 <kevets_> will everything in /opt partition now be lost
Jan 30 19:20:50 <dwc-> yea, I needed more /opt stuff and I didn't even install that much
Jan 30 19:20:55 <ka6sox> suspended is correct
Jan 30 19:21:12 <ka6sox> but things "fail" when they try to write there while its suspended
Jan 30 19:21:14 <kevets_> yeah I think the GoogleCL install ran out of space cause lots of the files seem to be missing
Jan 30 19:21:15 <dwc-> so it should act more like a failing HD than a failed HD
Jan 30 19:21:35 <kevets_> I'm trying to hack together my own kind of picasa instant upload
Jan 30 19:21:35 <dwc-> slow, and eventual success
Jan 30 19:21:45 <ka6sox> depending on the app...may fail completely or just have to wait
Jan 30 19:21:50 <dwc-> hey, I wrote one of those (non-instant)
Jan 30 19:22:02 <kevets_> is there a wiki on getting an ext3 partition for /opt
Jan 30 19:22:09 <ka6sox> kevets_, you will lose everything when you switch
Jan 30 19:22:16 <dwc-> I wanted a CLI tool to sync my photo albums using their java APIs
Jan 30 19:22:34 <dwc-> shouldn't...
Jan 30 19:22:34 <ka6sox> you can push a portion of the tree into /media/internal but you lose the file perms.
Jan 30 19:23:06 <dwc-> umount /opt ; repartition, mount /opt ; mount loopfs /tmp/opt ; mv
Jan 30 19:23:12 <kevets_> but I can just reinstall stuffs
Jan 30 19:23:20 <kevets_> nothing too important is there
Jan 30 19:23:33 <ka6sox> what dwc- said %^^^^
Jan 30 19:23:56 <ka6sox> running on too little sleep
Jan 30 19:24:03 <dwc-> if it's not important though, blowing it away can be simpler/easier
Jan 30 19:24:43 <kevets_> yeah if I can jus reinstall all my optware stuff then that should be ok
Jan 30 19:25:14 <kevets_> what should I be using to do the repartitioning part
Jan 30 19:29:44 <ka6sox> tailor
Jan 30 19:30:46 <dwc-> or if you're comfortable with it, parted
Jan 30 19:30:58 <dwc-> and/or lvm tools
Jan 30 19:31:08 * PatrickC has used the lvm tools'
Jan 30 19:35:16 <kevets_> cool - ok yeah I haven't really gotten tailor to work quiet yet. every time I run it is says the jails are active even if its the firs tthing I run
Jan 30 19:35:31 <ka6sox> reboot, then run tailor
Jan 30 19:35:57 <dwc-> open up a CLI and umount all the jails and see what's up
Jan 30 19:36:19 <dwc-> if the processes aren't running and the jail not in use, you can just umount them
Jan 30 19:38:11 <kevets_> k
Jan 30 19:58:58 * PatrickC cant wait to run webOS on Android hardware!! D:
Jan 30 19:59:48 <EricBlade> hey guys, my 1.4.5 pre- just got full wiped by performing an activation on it. :(  i don't recall if it had any patches on it or anything, is there something in preware that can recover a list of installed patches after a full erase?
Jan 30 20:05:49 <Compn> yes, that magical 'undelete everything i just deleted' option that computers have now
Jan 30 20:06:02 <Compn> you know the one ... whats it called? magic wand!
Jan 30 20:06:12 <Compn> dont forget to say abracadabra
Jan 30 20:06:33 <PatrickC> EricBlade, emergency patch recovery
Jan 30 20:06:46 <PatrickC> that will uninstall them all*
Jan 30 20:06:53 <EricBlade> Compn: no no i thought there was a program that would ...
Jan 30 20:06:55 <EricBlade> yeah i think that's it
Jan 30 20:06:59 <Compn> oh, neat
Jan 30 20:07:51 <EricBlade> hell yeah, sprint services beats the snot out of tmobile
Jan 30 20:09:11 <dwc-> wouldn't a full erase erase everything?
Jan 30 20:09:23 <Compn> all my snark was for nothing!
Jan 30 20:09:47 <EricBlade> full erase only erases the apps and /media/internal
Jan 30 20:10:12 <EricBlade> ive still got at least a couple of patches and the custom kernel here but preware doesn't know about any of it
Jan 30 20:11:34 <dwc-> oh
Jan 30 20:17:50 <RagingMind> EricBlade, probably best to use EPR and the recovery kernel (or doctor)
Jan 30 20:19:27 <Compn> i guess you cant tell what patches are installed from looking at the original files
Jan 30 20:19:40 <Compn> EricBlade : are patches downloaded to a seperate temp dir ?
Jan 30 21:01:31 <rwhitby> EricBlade: if you have done a full wipe on your device, you should doctor it to remove patches and kernels
Jan 30 21:01:58 <rwhitby> the full wipe removes all records of what patches were installed, but does not revert the patched files.
Jan 30 21:44:14 <EricBlade> rwhitby: i think we're just going to leave it is as for a little bit, and then see if the 2.2.4 upgrade becomes more stable
Jan 30 22:41:45 <PatrickC> what does it mean if the home button on my touchpad is blinking?
Jan 30 22:41:54 <PatrickC> like, half of it blinks on, then the other half
Jan 30 22:41:58 <PatrickC> kinda like a strobe light
Jan 30 22:42:14 <PatrickC> this is a brand new one that arrived from HP today (gonna call them later if no one on here knows what it is)
Jan 30 22:56:08 <rwhitby> it means it's charging
Jan 30 22:58:19 <PatrickC> rwhitby, the screen doesnt come on with the dead battery symbol.. still charging even though the screen doesnt show it?
Jan 30 23:00:02 <jcsullins> it can charge quicker without screen on
Jan 30 23:00:20 <PatrickC> ah ok
Jan 31 00:22:29 <vaderdd> I was hoping I could get some help here.
Jan 31 00:22:55 <vaderdd> I updated WebOS to 3.0.5.86 and now I can't get to my android install
Jan 31 00:23:03 <vaderdd> And I tried reinstalling moboot and clockwork mod.
Jan 31 00:25:12 <dwc-> please visit an android channel or faq for help
Jan 31 00:26:05 <jcsullins> vaderdd: try #cyanogenmod-touchpad
Jan 31 00:29:09 <vaderdd> thanks, I appologize for being off topic.
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