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Feb 14 09:23:54 <Astray> Hi I'm getting an blog error while trying to install stuff
Feb 14 09:24:05 <Astray> ipkg
Feb 14 09:24:18 <Astray> using preware
Feb 14 09:25:58 <cryptk> Astray, blog error?
Feb 14 09:29:30 <Astray> ipkg error, but just did some research and apparently it's the website being down
Feb 14 09:31:27 <cryptk> Astray, which package were you trying to install, and what was the error?
Feb 14 09:33:34 <Astray> filemgr and internalz
Feb 14 09:33:47 <cryptk> ahh, that would be a precentral problem then
Feb 14 09:33:56 <cryptk> is the error at the part where it runs curl to download the ipk?
Feb 14 09:34:44 <Astray> also looking for a patch to be able to download stuff from sites needing authentenication
Feb 14 09:34:53 <Astray> and yes
Feb 14 12:36:28 <r9s_> any luck?
Feb 14 12:39:27 <cryptk> r9s_, any luck with what?
Feb 14 12:40:32 <r9s_> with this:  http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/311761-file-responsible-changing-headset-mode.html
Feb 14 12:41:38 <cryptk> r9s_, I would look at the patch files for sconix's patches, or for any patch really that deals with that stuff
Feb 14 12:41:45 <cryptk> that should help to point you in the right direction
Feb 14 12:41:59 <cryptk> since the patch file will tell you what files it is modifying
Feb 14 12:43:02 <cryptk> https://github.com/webos-internals/patches/blob/webos-1.4.5/phone/phone-autospeakerphone-via-proximity-sensor-instant.patch
Feb 14 12:43:12 <cryptk> I would check out the 3 or so files that patch modifies
Feb 14 12:43:38 <cryptk> the lines that start with --- and +++ indicate the files that are being modified
Feb 14 12:45:13 <cryptk> /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.phone/app/models/TelephonyEventListener.js seems like a likely suspect
Feb 14 12:45:40 <cryptk> r9s_, ^^^
Feb 14 12:47:38 <r9s_> cryptk: thank you
Feb 14 12:47:49 <r9s_> i will look inside when i go home
Feb 14 14:16:33 <swisstomcat> http://developer.palm.com/blog/
Feb 14 15:27:18 <dwc-> woohoo, the web browser
Feb 14 15:27:49 <Compn> woohoo what ?
Feb 14 15:27:51 <Compn> what happened ?
Feb 14 15:27:54 <dwc-> http://developer.palm.com/blog/2012/02/sams-blog-february-releases-for-open-webos/
Feb 14 15:27:59 <Compn> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Feb 14 15:32:10 <dtzWill> :D
Feb 14 15:32:53 <Compn> so whos got binaries ready for install ? :D
Feb 14 15:33:33 <Compn> the browser is a 'core application'. kind of confusing wording
Feb 14 15:40:29 <mberg> I'm jazzed.  :)  But yeah, waiting for someone else to package it.
Feb 14 18:01:05 <wrea> summatusmentis, I havent, I'd have to boot into Linux
Feb 14 18:01:11 <wrea> Might later in the day
Feb 14 18:04:11 <summatusmentis> swisstomcat: what more info? don't you get all the info?
Feb 14 18:16:46 <EricBlade> anyone got binaries for our new browser yet? :)
Feb 14 18:17:54 <EricBlade> or is it just an enyo interface so far
Feb 14 18:22:50 <swisstomcat> summatusmentis: suprise :)
Feb 14 18:25:44 <EricBlade> Congrats, Rod, Official Open webOS Community Development Leader
Feb 14 18:29:56 <summatusmentis> I wonder if they pay rwhitby for that
Feb 14 18:40:02 <halfhalo> they pay him in opals
Feb 14 18:40:25 <summatusmentis> I didn't know rwhitby was into shiny stones
Feb 14 18:40:28 <summatusmentis> :-P
Feb 14 18:40:29 <wrea> lol
Feb 14 20:03:01 <destinal_> hmm so what's this about isis?
Feb 14 20:03:45 <destinal_> https://github.com/isis-project  looks like actual code?
Feb 14 20:04:56 <destinal_> governance model stuff is neat too
Feb 14 20:06:52 <swisstomcat> it's a lot of code
Feb 14 20:06:56 <swisstomcat> but no build instructions
Feb 14 20:08:48 <destinal_> nice, NPAPI stuff, I did so much reversing on that to get terminal working back in the day and now it's actually public (though without docs).  good times
Feb 14 20:12:13 <destinal_> swisstomcat: yeah I guess time to see how close this stuff comes to actually compiling
Feb 14 20:12:35 <halfhalo> not very, at least for me.  which doesn't say much'
Feb 14 20:13:27 <destinal_> halfhalo: traditionally palm's webkit didn't compile -- am hoping for a change here but we may need to file bug reports to help figure it out if not
Feb 14 20:28:32 <swisstomcat> waiting for a native qtwebkit that doesn't use the browser-server
Feb 14 20:34:39 <PuffTheMagic> halfhalo, @lzolotarev Will you please sanitize the webkit code of all OE dependencies so that the rest of the world can compile it?
Feb 14 20:34:40 <PuffTheMagic> hehe
Feb 14 20:35:52 <halfhalo> lol
Feb 14 20:36:00 <RagingMind> destinal_, someone in the forums claimed they could compile it and put it on their pre3 *shrugs*
Feb 14 20:36:11 <halfhalo> eww, forums
Feb 14 20:36:43 <RagingMind> PuffTheMagic, does wterm compile with the PDK?
Feb 14 20:37:26 <destinal_> RagingMind: yeah forums seem full of positive results
Feb 14 20:37:56 <PuffTheMagic> RagingMind, u can use the PDK toolchain i believe, u still need build.git for other deps
Feb 14 20:38:25 <destinal_> looks like right now they're just installing the js browser though
Feb 14 20:38:35 <destinal_> not webkit
Feb 14 20:48:38 <swisstomcat> yeah
Feb 14 20:49:40 <slick> halfhalo, you there?
Feb 14 20:51:07 <swisstomcat> so webkit is dependent on OE?
Feb 14 20:51:46 <halfhalo> why are random people pinging me...
Feb 14 20:52:07 <slick> i'm wondering if you ever figured out this problem: http://pastie.org/pastes/1876708/text
Feb 14 20:52:38 <wrea> halfhalo, you're popular now apparently
Feb 14 20:52:40 <halfhalo> maybe?  That was a few vm's ago
Feb 14 20:52:46 <halfhalo> in any event, bbiaf meeting time
Feb 14 20:55:31 <slick> well, i'm having trouble making glibc-2.0, it's having trouble linking with pthread support
Feb 14 21:09:03 <Brybry> RagingMind, wterm builds with the PDK on windows fine
Feb 14 21:09:21 <Brybry> if you need a batch file that can build it I can probably help you out
Feb 14 23:42:48 <kill_dano> Installed Isis... can see any difference
Feb 14 23:46:00 <dwc-> which part
Feb 14 23:46:49 <kill_dano> I know it's just the gui
Feb 14 23:47:09 <kill_dano> but was expecting atleast something new
Feb 14 23:47:48 <kill_dano> my touchpad's white is a shade of pink :(
Feb 14 23:49:16 <dwc-> diff says the images are different, license files are added, and the path to enyo was made relative
Feb 14 23:50:23 <kill_dano> what images?
Feb 14 23:50:25 <dwc-> some mock data for unit testing was added, and it was less localized
Feb 14 23:51:31 <dwc-> looks like pretty much everything under images... the buttons, the icons, etc
Feb 14 23:51:57 <kill_dano> hm must be very subtle
Feb 14 23:52:01 <dwc-> the only user-visible thing I see in this skim is the default search no longer passes client=ms-palm-webOS
Feb 14 23:52:31 <kill_dano> um still says that on mine
Feb 14 23:52:38 <kill_dano> do I need to restart?
Feb 14 23:52:59 <dwc-> possible
Feb 14 23:53:14 <dwc-> I'm looking at the git repo vs my 3.0.5 touchpad doctor
Feb 14 23:53:22 <dwc-> I have no idea what you installed anyways
Feb 14 23:53:23 <kill_dano> cool
Feb 14 23:53:34 <kill_dano> hehe someone posted an ipk in the forums
Feb 14 23:53:42 <kill_dano> I'm trusting
Feb 14 23:54:24 <kill_dano> what kenel do u use on your TP?
Feb 14 23:54:31 <kill_dano> kernel*
Feb 14 23:54:41 <dwc-> the default
Feb 15 00:08:13 <kill_dano> what's a UI Enyo widgets
Feb 15 02:40:19 <kill_dano> what's a UI Enyo widgets
Feb 15 02:50:28 <EricBlade> kill_dano: the UI widgets for the Enyo framework. except they didn't come out today
Feb 15 02:50:48 <kill_dano> what is a UI widget?
Feb 15 02:50:54 <kill_dano> like android widgets?
Feb 15 02:51:10 <EricBlade> a widget is more like "something that does something"
Feb 15 02:51:21 <kill_dano> oh
Feb 15 02:51:25 <EricBlade> specifically, this is the UI pieces for the Enyo library
Feb 15 02:51:31 <kill_dano> like a button or UI element like a slider
Feb 15 02:51:34 <EricBlade> things like push buttons and scrollers and stuff
Feb 15 02:51:39 <kill_dano> gotcha
Feb 15 02:51:44 <kill_dano> thanks
Feb 15 02:51:59 <EricBlade> i didn't say that "something that does something" to be a jerk, because obviously there are many different places where "widget" is used :)
Feb 15 02:53:23 <kill_dano> hey what are your popular apps?
Feb 15 02:53:31 <kill_dano> I've seen you around
Feb 15 02:53:41 <EricBlade> i'm the guy with GVoice and XO
Feb 15 02:53:44 <kill_dano> Nice
Feb 15 02:53:48 <kill_dano> I have Gvoice
Feb 15 02:54:00 <EricBlade> thank you very much for your support :)
Feb 15 02:54:26 <kill_dano> I wish when I turned it on it would not announce the new texts... becaus eI've already read them all and they just keep comming and comming
Feb 15 02:54:47 <EricBlade> do you use 2-step authorization?
Feb 15 02:54:54 <kill_dano> It's awesome how you made it support the pre 3 so well
Feb 15 02:55:04 <kill_dano> No I don't think so
Feb 15 02:55:17 <kill_dano> should I check?
Feb 15 02:55:26 <EricBlade> you'd know if you did, it's a Google login step
Feb 15 02:55:47 <EricBlade> well, the update that's waiting right now -should- fix the problems that some people have with not being able to mark things read
Feb 15 02:56:12 <EricBlade> if you have a TouchPad, it'll have native voicemail play without flash now too.  I hope to be able to backport that to the phones.
Feb 15 02:56:30 <kill_dano> sweet, it's def teh best GV voice app
Feb 15 02:56:42 <kill_dano> voogle users got shafted
Feb 15 02:57:02 <kill_dano> app has not been updated in ages
Feb 15 02:58:44 <EricBlade> ok they're still talking about "end of Feb" for Enyo 2.0, so I have at least a week or so to get the last couple features in before I lose my mind converting it to the new stuff :)
Feb 15 02:59:40 <kill_dano> wow do you think it will be alot of work?
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