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Mar 30 04:19:10 <EricBlade> so in my quest to figure out a way to deploy apps via wifi, i've figured out that novacomd is listening for tcp connections on port 6969, and that if i open that in the webos firewall, i can get a connection manually.  haven't yet managed to figure out how to get novacom to talk to it, though
Mar 30 04:53:43 <destinal> EricBlade: you could get some idea by tcpdumping the session to the emulator or looking at the novacomd source code
Mar 30 04:53:48 <destinal> released today, woot
Mar 30 04:54:28 <EricBlade> yeah that was how i located the port.  the source is a bit too much for me at the moment, though, need some time to absorb it
Mar 30 05:00:13 <EricBlade> something that might be really handy is if i learned how to open firewall ports without using luna-send
Mar 30 05:48:33 <vish> hi
Mar 30 05:49:01 <vish> anuy one ther?
Mar 30 05:57:44 <bhuey> hey
Mar 30 06:04:32 <vish> hi bhuey
Mar 30 06:04:34 <vish> are u ther
Mar 30 06:04:55 <bhuey> kind of
Mar 30 06:05:30 <bhuey> playing with a new addition to this household, a 2700 watt rms sub-woofer
Mar 30 06:05:31 <vish> have you ever installed any library pakage in webos emulator
Mar 30 06:05:35 <bhuey> no
Mar 30 06:05:54 * bhuey watches the windows vibrate and rattle
Mar 30 06:06:38 <vish> can u tell me what is preware?
Mar 30 06:07:02 <bhuey> add ons to webOS from the general enthusiasts community
Mar 30 06:07:06 <bhuey> look at the wiki
Mar 30 06:07:52 <vish> is there any default pakkage installer for webos device /emulator?
Mar 30 06:14:01 <destinal> vish: depends on what you mean by "package"
Mar 30 06:14:42 <destinal> preware for webos apps, services, patches, themes etc.   optware (installable via preware) for full featured linux distribution style stuff
Mar 30 06:14:58 <destinal> all of it uses ipkg (also ipkg is the package system on the device out of the box as well)
Mar 30 07:09:44 <vish> hi destinal
Mar 30 07:09:51 <vish> r u ther?
Mar 30 08:49:24 <vish> gi destinal
Mar 30 09:09:55 <bhuey> What's going on today is so crazy
Mar 30 09:10:10 * bhuey rolls his eyes everytime he thinks about it
Mar 30 09:56:31 <RichT23> bhuey: what is going on today?
Mar 30 10:02:44 <bhuey> sleep
Mar 30 10:02:47 <bhuey> will be asleep soon
Mar 30 10:03:32 * bhuey is PST
Mar 30 10:05:12 * bhuey looks like he finally lost Palm email access today
Mar 30 13:31:33 <EricBlade> bhuey: tease
Mar 30 16:52:23 <EricBlade> woo got the novacom via wifi
Mar 30 17:07:09 <destinal> EricBlade: please write it up on the wiki?
Mar 30 17:07:17 <destinal> that I would love to know how to do
Mar 30 17:10:26 <EricBlade> destinal https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=119&t=19787
Mar 30 17:13:06 <destinal> EricBlade: nice, but forums aren't a long-term record and not easy to find stuff, do you not like wiki?
Mar 30 17:13:14 <destinal> EricBlade: good find btw
Mar 30 17:13:58 <EricBlade> i probably could've figured this out earlier, but being able to see the code, even though i didn't understand much of it, did help me figure out the keys
Mar 30 17:15:28 <destinal> EricBlade: what can we do to get more people using the wiki?  any ideas?
Mar 30 17:15:40 <EricBlade> which wiki
Mar 30 17:16:01 <destinal> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page
Mar 30 17:16:52 * EricBlade shrug i don't know wiki formatting
Mar 30 17:17:05 <EricBlade> and every one of them has different style guides it seems
Mar 30 17:17:09 <destinal> EricBlade: you could make a new article at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Novacom and put in a "using novacom over tcp" section for instance
Mar 30 17:17:22 <destinal> EricBlade: we use mediawiki so same as wikipedia
Mar 30 17:23:19 <destinal_> stupid wifi fail
Mar 30 17:31:24 <dwc-> what'd it do now
Mar 30 17:36:59 <destinal_> dwc-: heh my notebook's wifi failed to my local AP -- nothing to do with novacom
Mar 30 17:37:27 <destinal_> EricBlade: so I added your steps to the wiki, but I'm going to work hard to guilt you into contributing to the wiki so that we can actually collect knowledge...
Mar 30 17:37:34 <destinal_> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Novacom
Mar 30 17:37:44 <EricBlade> destinal_: i don't have a lot of knowledge, but i do stumble over things occasionally :)
Mar 30 17:38:05 <EricBlade> "There is currently no text on this page"
Mar 30 17:38:19 <destinal_> do a force refresh
Mar 30 17:38:29 <destinal_> overactive caching server
Mar 30 17:39:32 <destinal_> if firefox, Shift+Control+R on PC or Shift+Cmd+R on a Mac.
Mar 30 17:40:14 <destinal_> EricBlade: should that be "--conect-ip
Mar 30 17:40:25 <destinal_> as you wrote it, or should there be two N's ?
Mar 30 17:47:58 <EricBlade> two n's
Mar 30 23:23:47 <EricBlade> destinal should edit that page to note that that procedure is useful for using novacom via wifi
Mar 31 00:43:07 * bhuey reviews nyx changes
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