**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 02 02:59:58 2012
May 02 04:48:31 <cenobyte_> anyone here?
May 02 04:51:38 <ka6sox> tmandry, you here?
May 02 04:55:12 <PatrickC> cenobyte_, yes
May 02 04:55:52 <PatrickC> hows it goin ka6sox?
May 02 04:56:17 <ka6sox> buzy buzy...but good.
May 02 04:56:22 <PatrickC> LarrySteeze, you there?
May 02 04:56:25 <PatrickC> ka6sox, thats good
May 02 04:56:34 <ka6sox> PatrickC, its late for him...1am.
May 02 04:56:44 <PatrickC> ah ok
May 02 04:56:45 <cenobyte_> great, I have just got a working Debian chroot on my new Pixi!
May 02 04:56:52 <cenobyte_> but have a few questions
May 02 04:57:01 <PatrickC> wait... the deb chroot works on Pixi? nice..
May 02 04:57:04 <cenobyte_> first of all a huge thanks to you all
May 02 04:57:04 <ka6sox> Hurt Me Baby...
May 02 04:57:15 <cenobyte_> yes it does
May 02 04:57:20 <PatrickC> cenobyte_, fair warning, it won't run that good... :)
May 02 04:57:49 <cenobyte_> i'm not sure why not, I have a Nanonote at 336 Mhz running native debian fine
May 02 04:58:03 <cenobyte_> So far it is blazing
May 02 04:58:08 <PatrickC> really? wow..
May 02 04:58:20 <PatrickC> what WM are you using? (or are you just going CLI?)
May 02 04:58:26 <ka6sox> PatrickC, it will blaze...if its CLI
May 02 04:58:37 <cenobyte_> anyways my question is about the newest Xecutah, on mine there is no start
May 02 04:58:45 <PatrickC> ka6sox, yeah, i keep forgetting that many unix users use CLI :)
May 02 04:58:45 <cenobyte_> Xserver optioen
May 02 04:58:54 <cenobyte_> *option
May 02 04:59:01 <cenobyte_> is that normal?
May 02 04:59:12 <PatrickC> question 1: is it installed :)
May 02 04:59:16 <cenobyte_> I have Xserver installed, just no button
May 02 04:59:23 <PatrickC> hmm.. not sure then
May 02 04:59:32 <ka6sox> it wasn't ever built for armv6 I don't think.
May 02 04:59:34 <cenobyte_> i am running .9.3
May 02 04:59:45 <ka6sox> but then what do I know.
May 02 05:00:05 <cenobyte_> well in answer to how I run Debian, for now  I just use CLI
May 02 05:00:12 <cenobyte_> actually to run csound
May 02 05:01:11 <cenobyte_> I am now tempted to get a used Pre
May 02 05:02:31 <cenobyte_> do the Pres get as warm as the Pixi's do?
May 02 05:02:41 <PatrickC> depends on what you are doing on them :)
May 02 05:02:50 <PatrickC> my pre2 stays at about 32C most of the time
May 02 05:03:05 <cenobyte_> is it that big of a step from pixi cpu to arm cortex?
May 02 05:03:06 <PatrickC> unless its running on low battery, bad coverage, or using as a wifi hotspot :)
May 02 05:03:34 <PatrickC> the pre- is a big step up from the pixi IMHO
May 02 05:03:45 <PatrickC> can OC a lot more, and bigger screen
May 02 05:03:48 <ka6sox> cenobyte_, the pre we can regulate temperature.
May 02 05:03:50 <PatrickC> as well as WiFi hotspot :)
May 02 05:04:02 <cenobyte_> because there are some for about 40 USD
May 02 05:04:07 <cenobyte_> used i mean
May 02 05:04:14 <PatrickC> Pre-/Pre+/Pre2?
May 02 05:04:20 <cenobyte_> Pre+
May 02 05:04:32 <PatrickC> that isnt a bad price
May 02 05:04:37 <PatrickC> depending on the condition
May 02 05:04:45 <PatrickC> pre+ has more RAM, and Flash Memory
May 02 05:05:12 <cenobyte_> is the flash memory likely to fail after many uses?
May 02 05:05:31 <PatrickC> ive had a pre+ for over a year, and its still fine
May 02 05:05:42 <PatrickC> but then again, i have a pre2 that the Flash memory went bad after a day or 2
May 02 05:05:56 <PatrickC> (could be that it was exposed to static when i was frankenpre'ing though)
May 02 05:05:56 <cenobyte_> after that are they junk?
May 02 05:06:08 <PatrickC> i think so, but not 100% sure
May 02 05:06:27 <cenobyte_> by frankenpre'ing you mean...?
May 02 05:06:43 <PatrickC> turning a VZW Pre2 into a Sprint Pre2 ;)
May 02 05:07:32 <cenobyte_> anyways, I just wanted to know if it was OK that I only have the start Xterm
May 02 05:07:43 <cenobyte_> and start Debian chroot buttons on Xecutah
May 02 05:08:02 <PatrickC> like ka6sox said, im not sure if it was even built for ARMv6
May 02 05:08:05 <cenobyte_> when I click them both they work after a xserver like screen
May 02 05:08:19 <cenobyte_> well supposedly it was in Preware for pixi
May 02 05:08:39 <PatrickC> cause there is no more "Launch XServer" button. they automagically launch the xserver and intended server inside of it
May 02 05:08:40 <ka6sox> cenobyte_, excellent
May 02 05:08:41 <PatrickC> afaik
May 02 05:08:57 <cenobyte_> what is excellent?
May 02 05:09:37 <cenobyte_> OK! That's what I thought- that now Xserver is automatic! Thanks for informing me
May 02 05:10:04 <cenobyte_> and to exit the Chroot and XTerm should I just type 'exit'?
May 02 05:10:04 <ka6sox> that should give you a very tiny console window.
May 02 05:10:19 <ka6sox> throw away the card.
May 02 05:11:05 <cenobyte_> is there a way to get tab key or ctrl key?
May 02 05:11:26 <cenobyte_> i accidentally found out that the number pad keys double as arrows
May 02 05:11:28 <ka6sox> cenobyte_, doubtful as I don't think anyone worked on keymappings for the pixi
May 02 05:12:31 <cenobyte_> and to change the font size/color of xterm or the chroot is there a way?
May 02 05:12:58 <PatrickC> cenobyte_, i believe Tweaks does that
May 02 05:13:05 <PatrickC> not sure on the Pixi, but I know on the TP it does
May 02 05:13:08 <ka6sox> PatrickC, yes, but for a Pixi?
May 02 05:13:17 <cenobyte_> i searched preware for that and did not find it
May 02 05:13:27 <PatrickC> ka6sox, hence why i said "Not sure on the Pixi... " :)
May 02 05:13:37 <ka6sox> cenobyte_, you might have to tweak the calling app for the xterm.
May 02 05:13:43 <cenobyte_> if there is no way for now, i am fine with that
May 02 05:14:04 <cenobyte_> i am going to benchmark csound performance
May 02 05:14:05 <ka6sox> cenobyte_, for now, get novaterm setup and start by connecting over the USB port.
May 02 05:14:21 <ka6sox> then chroot into the debian partition.
May 02 05:14:34 <cenobyte_> ok
May 02 05:15:38 <cenobyte_> i think I will leave it for now but thank all you guys for being so helpful and human
May 02 05:15:49 <cenobyte_> I hope to keep in touch
May 02 05:15:57 <ka6sox> you are hurting yourself with that tiny screen otherwise.
May 02 05:15:58 <ka6sox> feel free to come back.
May 02 05:16:09 <ka6sox> we will try to help where we can.
May 02 07:09:44 <panel> hi
May 02 07:10:48 <panel> is it possible to (self ) change display on veer ?
May 02 07:55:00 <hewball> uugh downloading doctors in Aus sux, axel -n 30 is all that saves me
May 02 08:29:41 <hewball> is there a way i can set the modem to debug mode with logging to file or something?
May 02 09:49:06 <hewball> is this the telephone interface layer stuff?
May 02 11:28:46 <LarrySteeze> PatrickC: I'm here now...but only for (literally) 2 minutes
May 02 11:44:36 <hewball> well im good at crashing these pre3's now
May 02 21:55:48 <PatrickC> RichT23, ping?
May 02 22:45:08 <cenobyte_> hello everyone it's the one with the Pixi debian chroot again
May 02 22:46:23 <cenobyte_> i have since run csound on my Pixi
May 02 22:46:43 <cenobyte_> and compared it to my Nokia n800 performance
May 02 22:49:47 <cenobyte_> ... and it was basically twice as fast
May 02 22:51:02 <cenobyte_> if anyone cares lol
May 02 22:52:41 <cenobyte_> oh yeah, on the left and top of my chroot window, there is like a few pixels of checkered border
May 02 22:52:54 <cenobyte_> is there a way to make it fit the screen perfectly?
May 02 22:55:47 <cenobyte_> i think i'll come back later
May 03 02:26:24 <cenobyte_> ok here i am again
May 03 02:27:46 <PatrickC> hey cenobyte_
May 03 02:28:50 <cenobyte_> i really love the debian chroot
May 03 02:29:32 <cenobyte_> but is there a way to get it to play sound from the terminal?
May 03 02:37:33 <cenobyte_> so, any ideas?
May 03 02:54:35 <cenobyte_> i already installed alsa-base
May 03 02:54:51 <cenobyte_> maybe i should run alsaconfig?
May 03 02:57:04 <cenobyte_> still nothing for tab in the pixi chroot?
May 03 02:57:13 <cenobyte_> i managed to get ctrl to work
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