**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 09 02:59:59 2012 May 09 03:01:56 huh, all my applications got deleted when I wiped /media/internal ... does the pre3 store applications under there or something? o.O May 09 03:02:17 rrix: thats what the .palm directory is :) iirc May 09 03:02:31 Huh May 09 03:02:35 That's new May 09 03:02:41 Ok May 09 03:02:42 i dont think it is May 09 03:02:53 PatrickC: I've done this before without things imploding though ;) May 09 03:02:59 oh well May 09 03:03:10 * rrix waits for it to download everything again May 09 03:05:53 I still find it strange that this thing has a SIM card May 09 03:30:13 PatrickC too depressing to hang around here these days May 09 03:30:38 and wosi is a ghost town May 09 03:39:43 hey PuffTheMagic_ how's it going? May 09 04:00:51 PuffTheMagic_: well, I hope that changes soon May 09 18:14:05 I would like to edit http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Novacom_on_Fedora_15 as Fedora now has novacom in the updates-testing repository May 09 18:14:19 But I don't have the necessary permissions May 09 18:14:37 How does one go about requesting the correct permissions? May 09 18:32:12 jdieter, are you asking for yourself or for the package from the distribution? May 09 18:32:47 I'm the maintainer of the package in the distribution May 09 18:33:09 I just want to fix the wiki so you're not having to jump through the hoops to get it installed May 09 18:33:32 ka6sox: -^ May 09 18:34:25 sign up for an account on the wiki, verify your information and let me know your ID and I will promote you so you can edit the wiki. May 09 18:35:17 I've done so and my id is jdieter May 09 18:35:22 Thanks much! May 09 18:36:11 try now to edit the page May 09 18:37:05 ka6sox: Great, I'm in! Thanks! May 09 18:37:46 yw May 09 19:41:31 Anyone has an idea why I'm unable to stop the proximity sensor from being enabled after I enable it? I call cancel on it and delete it but it still turns the screen off whenever something is close until the device goes to sleep May 09 19:49:49 Lazar_Dobrescu, you referring to the Pre3 problem with not being able to hang up calls? May 09 19:51:36 hey ka6sox May 09 19:51:52 hiya bhuey_ May 09 19:52:09 well what do you know I guess it was because I turned it on twice... May 09 19:52:21 about to head out to the Avo Ranch...but will be back in a few hours (Fresh Guac tonight!) May 09 19:52:32 ka6sox: nah I'm working on the linphone app and was bumping into some issue where the proximity sensor would stay "on" May 09 19:52:40 aha May 09 19:52:52 the same issue plagues calls too. May 09 19:53:02 really May 09 19:53:16 it looks like the phone app is diligent in making sure it doesnt turn it on twice May 09 19:53:18 maybe with sleepd we can fix this :D May 09 19:53:19 so it might be a different issue May 09 19:53:23 heh May 09 19:53:38 (since that is what causes all this to happen) May 09 19:54:04 now what I get is lag though :) like hidd is sometimes jumping up to 100% cpu for a second or so when the proximity sensor is enabled May 09 19:54:30 getting HIDD code would be nice as I've seen that too! May 09 19:54:49 okay time to head out...bbl May 09 19:55:49 and that messes up the rtp stream May 09 19:57:19 lets hear it for priorities! May 09 19:57:20 bbl May 09 19:58:11 Lazar_Dobrescu, what protocalls are you putting into linphone? (or what all are you doing to it right now? :) May 09 19:58:37 right now I was just moving it to com.palm so the phone speaker and proximity sensor would work May 09 19:58:51 ah nice May 09 19:58:55 lately I've been upgrading the linphone backend and adding dtmf support too May 09 19:59:11 EricBlade, what did you say you needed for the gvoice VoIP? May 09 19:59:33 Lazar_Dobrescu, what services does linpohone work with right now? May 09 19:59:53 I'm not aware of a service supporting SIP and G.711 that doesn't work May 09 20:00:01 although there might exist one May 09 20:00:38 it is pretty limited with incoming calls though... that's a job for another day though May 09 20:00:47 lol May 09 20:00:58 cause im really wanting to use gvoice with it, and not sure what voip calls it needs... May 09 20:01:03 well, calls/protocalls May 09 20:01:16 what does that mean to you... can you use gvoice with SIP? May 09 20:01:30 not sure lol May 09 20:01:54 there has to be tons of people who tried it with the desktop app May 09 20:02:00 and found ways to do it if it works May 09 20:02:09 so I'd suggest looking at those and applying them to the webos app May 09 20:02:17 which is just a very simplified version of the desktop one May 09 20:03:16 thats why i pinged EricBlade :) May 09 20:03:35 he is working on a messaging plugin for gvoice May 09 20:03:49 and im hoping that we can get voip working as well May 09 21:19:02 ok well after all that big conversation involving me, i got disconnected May 09 21:19:07 and i can't get back on with pidgin May 09 21:20:34 Lazar_Dobrescu: i've noticed either the proximity sensor or the phone app are a bit wonky on the Pre3 May 09 21:22:07 PatrickC: SIP isn't really involved with Google Voice, I was building a SIP signaling system into it briefly to see if I could get any kind of VoIP to work using gstreamer May 09 21:23:31 i need to dig up the latest linphone stuff, I hear Lazar_Dobrescu is doing rather well with it May 09 21:23:45 on 2.2.4 and 3.0 it may be possible to connect it -to- the phone app May 09 21:24:19 i've setup a calling connector although i hadn't quite got it working when i discovered that the catalog wouldn't take gvoice even if it was only mentioned in the code May 09 22:33:05 Lazar_Dobrescu: if you need anything for you to become the webOS linphone maintainer, just let me know May 09 23:36:13 Lazar_Dobrescu: I have one... requires TLS May 09 23:36:20 (necroposting) May 10 00:19:33 rwhitby: i dont think some get the hint .... May 10 00:45:38 folks May 10 00:54:53 'ello May 10 01:21:05 dwc-: it's true about sip/tls although it would be somewhat trivial to add May 10 01:21:13 now that I upgraded it to 3.5.2 which does support tls May 10 01:44:02 rwhitby: is Thibault officially out for linphone development? I mean I know it's been 4-5 months since his last contribution but do you know if he said he was leaving for good? May 10 02:26:34 is there any pitfalls with or reason to avoid having an app in the com.palm domain (assuming I need functionality only available to apps in this domain)? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 10 03:00:03 2012