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May 26 03:26:49 <Robius> oh poo
May 26 03:27:11 <Robius> playing with the pre3, tried to sign in to one of my palm profiles, turns out I guessed the one of my pre-
May 26 03:27:47 <Robius> pre- rebooted and wiped itself ;[  i signed out teh pre3, but pre- not restoring. where did all it's info go?
May 26 04:15:14 <cenobyte_> happy friday
May 26 04:27:00 <cenobyte_> ok so I have an application installed under my Debian chroot that is graphical, but when I run it, the window is off center and cannot be moved. How would i fix this?
May 26 04:27:40 <Robius> running in X?
May 26 04:28:13 <cenobyte_> i launch the program straight from the chroot terminal
May 26 04:28:21 <cenobyte_> but it does use X
May 26 04:28:33 <Robius> does the app need the x server?
May 26 04:28:38 <cenobyte_> yes
May 26 04:28:48 <cenobyte_> it was installed as a dependency
May 26 04:30:31 <cenobyte_> i have the same problem with any graphical thing
May 26 04:30:48 <cenobyte_> it will just pop up a window in some incovenient place with no way to move it
May 26 04:35:50 <cenobyte_> do i need to setup a window manager?
May 26 04:41:15 <cenobyte_> i was told that i no longer have to launch an xserver
May 26 04:41:20 <cenobyte_> via xecutah
May 26 04:49:24 <Robius> sounds like you may need to specify window coordinates, instead of letting X pick where
May 26 05:18:57 <rrix> invalidopcode: if your code is big enough to warrant refactoring, you should be good enough to blow away the bootloader :p
May 26 05:19:12 <rrix> The only thing you lose is the USB uploading which you have via ftdi
May 26 05:19:59 <rrix> well, I take that back, you probably lose more than that, I don't remember what all is in the bootloader these days
May 26 05:21:04 <invalidopcode> rrix: yeah, but doesn't that require a ftdi cable? because I don't have one
May 26 05:21:20 <rrix> Yeah, it does
May 26 05:21:35 <rrix> you could remove the ftdi chip from the arduino and make your own? *ducks*
May 26 05:21:54 * invalidopcode takes aim at rrix
May 26 05:22:19 * rrix hides behind the channel topic
May 26 05:22:20 <invalidopcode> haha I don't have the offical arduino so the chip isn't removable
May 26 05:22:24 <invalidopcode> hahahaha
May 26 05:22:36 <rrix> Yucky, seriously?
May 26 05:22:48 <rrix> Having a removable DIP is my favorite thing about the Uno
May 26 05:23:02 <rrix> What board are you using?
May 26 05:23:27 <invalidopcode> yeah its the OSEPP uno
May 26 05:23:36 <rrix> can I just say that red stripe is horrible beer?
May 26 05:23:39 <invalidopcode> the chip is surface mount though
May 26 05:23:53 <invalidopcode> what about horrible beer?
May 26 05:25:00 <invalidopcode> I got the board for Christmas from my parents, its the only one that Fry's sells
May 26 05:25:23 <rrix> Huh, so it's a Uno compatible, it jsut has an SMD, that's no fun
May 26 05:25:48 <rrix> My favorite part of arduino projects is taking the DIP ATmega out and dropping it in to a socket on my finished project board and having it just work
May 26 05:26:02 <invalidopcode> ah cool
May 26 05:26:17 <invalidopcode> right now I'm still in the shields-only phase of learning
May 26 05:26:29 <rrix> Yeah
May 26 05:26:38 <rrix> It's where you get started, for sure :)
May 26 05:26:44 <invalidopcode> if you look in the "Recent Images" section on my twitter, you can see my latest project
May 26 05:26:47 * rrix needs to design a shield soonish for a model rocket
May 26 05:26:52 <invalidopcode> oooooo cool
May 26 05:26:53 <rrix> what's your flickr name?
May 26 05:27:00 <invalidopcode> I don't have a flickr
May 26 05:27:08 <rrix> oh twitter
May 26 05:27:09 <rrix> duh
May 26 05:27:11 <rrix> I CAN READ
May 26 05:27:18 <invalidopcode> .....
May 26 05:27:20 <invalidopcode> :P
May 26 05:27:23 <rrix> :)
May 26 05:27:45 <rrix> Is that an OLED dispaly?
May 26 05:28:10 <invalidopcode> sadly no... its an 128 x 128 LCD
May 26 05:28:17 <rrix> ahh
May 26 05:28:18 <rrix> ok
May 26 05:28:20 <invalidopcode> 65K colors though! :P
May 26 05:28:27 <rrix> Nice :)
May 26 05:29:03 <invalidopcode> their's an ethernet shield underneath it and a RTC breakout board on the right side (you can't see it in the picture)
May 26 05:29:22 <rrix> nice :)
May 26 05:30:15 * rrix goes back to laundering clothes
May 26 05:31:27 <invalidopcode> haha have fun :P
May 26 05:46:15 <EricBlade> invalidopcode: join it to #testsynergy and let it sit there
May 26 05:47:01 <invalidopcode> okay
May 26 06:17:03 <cenobyte_> i am thinking of getting a 3d renderer on my pixi
May 26 06:33:07 <EricBlade> let's port Unreal
May 26 06:59:28 <cenobyte_> has anyone set up a compiling environment within a debian or ubuntu chroot?
May 26 08:14:57 <cenobyte_> ok night
May 26 18:19:41 <Robius> who's good with palm profiles?
May 26 21:08:21 <EricBlade-Syn> Hello
May 26 21:44:12 <EricBlade-Syn> Hi mal2
May 26 21:46:27 <mal2> hi
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