**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 28 02:59:58 2012 May 28 04:18:49 hi all. I like to talk about Gentoo_NDK page on webos-internals.org. so is PuffTheMagic there? May 28 04:21:55 from here: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Gentoo_NDK we can build a cross toolchain for developing native application written in C/C++ for webos devices. May 28 04:26:04 During the toolchain building, when I do "#crossdev -t arm-none-linux-gnueabi --libc 2.6.1 --gcc 4.3.3-r2 --binutils 2.19.1-r1 --kernel 2.6.23-r3", I encountered an error: Makefile:240: *** mixed implicit and normal rules. Stop. May 28 04:27:25 i think puff has moved on from webos :( May 28 04:27:38 I had figured out how to solve this problem. May 28 04:28:35 gnu make, as well as many of the other tools that are sourced from the early 80's, have cryptic error messages unless you know them fairly well. :| May 28 04:28:37 It doesn't matter. I just want to add a section to the page: Gentoo_NDK. May 28 04:29:13 someone here can give out write access, i don't remember who though May 28 04:29:39 if you wait long enough, though, they'll show up May 28 04:31:52 We can solve this issue by downgrade gnu make to version 3.81 temporarily... #emerge -pv =sys-devel/make-3.81 May 28 04:32:42 [ebuild UD ] sys-devel/make-3.81 [3.82-r3] USE="nls -static" 0 kB May 28 04:35:54 If someone catch this issue "*** mixed implicit and normal rules", [s]he can try to downgrade gnu make to 3.81. After building cross toolchain successfully, upgrade gnu make to the newest version by #emerge -av sys-devel/make May 28 04:36:33 that's all I want to say about the Gentoo_NDK page. thank you. May 28 04:57:38 EricBlade: cryptofs is just part of the patch path, starting at / May 28 04:58:19 divilis: what's your wiki username? May 28 04:58:57 * rwhitby guesses Divilis, and gives write access May 28 04:59:06 Rwhitby I sent it up May 28 05:10:28 my wiki name is Divilis. thks May 28 05:57:58 Ok, I have update the wiki page: Gentoo_NDK. Check out here: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Gentoo_NDK May 28 05:59:55 Please correct me if I miss something in this page. May 28 12:37:35 does janne julkunen seek shelter in this heavenly channel? May 28 12:38:30 mode-switcher sometimes behaves oddly and i'd rather help debug than sit here with an unresponsive device :) May 28 15:30:10 madnificent, he does May 28 15:59:01 wrea: do you know the nickname i should lurk for? May 28 15:59:15 sconix May 28 15:59:52 oh, that's sconix, cool. May 28 20:16:20 hello May 28 20:16:42 I am having several issues with the stock programs included on the Web OS 1.4.5 Pixi May 28 20:17:07 the PDF reader will sometimes not read PDF's it used to a few hours before May 28 20:17:33 the video player will start videos not from the beginning and display odd artefacts like a black grid May 28 20:17:53 and the Document viewer will be picky and not show textfiles sometimes May 28 20:25:09 so my idea is to port Free programs May 28 20:25:22 like maybe Evince and Leafpad, etc May 28 20:58:52 cenobyte_: afaict, that should be possible. though i think ghostscript is the thing you want to think about May 28 21:00:31 (others here will say something smarter) May 28 21:28:07 it is so nice that apt-get works nicely in the Debian chroot May 28 22:33:44 I just got aqsis renderer to work May 28 22:34:59 it really is not even that slow May 28 22:35:09 at least on simple things May 28 22:38:50 but i cannot seem to view tif images May 28 22:40:47 i am changing the RenderMan code to jpg to see if that works... May 28 22:46:04 that did not work May 28 22:48:13 so looks like there is no tif viewer in preware... May 28 22:51:10 i am installing fbi image viewer in the Debian Chroot... May 28 22:56:27 fbi complains i am not in a linux console May 28 22:58:12 well the man page said that pseudo consoles would not work May 28 23:01:19 ok so i am installing zgv now May 28 23:01:21 ... May 28 23:02:49 on this system it was called xzgv May 28 23:03:30 feel like i am hijacking chat May 28 23:03:31 brb May 28 23:12:35 cenobyte_: its okay... there usually isn't much traffic in here these days anyway :/ May 28 23:13:14 ok well xzgv went really weird May 28 23:13:20 did not work well at all May 28 23:13:35 it would be good to get some native way to view Tif's May 28 23:13:51 but the pixi WILL render .rib 3d scene files May 28 23:14:01 within 1 or 2 minutes May 28 23:19:48 ok well i can render but not see the tiffs well May 28 23:20:02 my x is not really set up well for now, so i will revisit this May 28 23:25:21 time to restart- my touch screen went crazy May 28 23:25:34 i hope to learn to make programs work on webos soon May 28 23:25:51 which reminds me to ask- is webos discontinued? May 28 23:26:00 if so, who will back it up? May 28 23:26:33 * invalidopcode rolls eyes May 28 23:28:57 i guess i must be missing something... ok cya May 29 00:07:09 invalidopcode, is it my imagination or are the clueless still alive? May 29 00:09:52 morning May 29 00:16:17 why do people go offline so quickly? how are you supposed to answer that? May 29 00:16:24 hello rwhitby May 29 00:27:16 howdy May 29 01:14:42 ka6sox: yes, apparently some people live under rocks... without internet... but still use IRC May 29 01:16:07 oh btw ka6sox I wanted to talk to you earlier this week about Badgework... I'm holding off finishing the Merit Badge update because I want to move the storage from localStorage into the palm database (so it will be backed up the palm profile and stuff) May 29 01:51:33 invalidopcode, okay go ahead May 29 01:58:15 ka6sox: okkie dokie, just wanted to keep you up to date :P May 29 01:59:22 tyvm! May 29 02:49:42 hello everyone, I discovered how to get TAB on my Debian chroot on my Pixi! May 29 02:49:49 quite exciting!!! May 29 02:50:03 it is...wait for it... sym+space! May 29 02:50:39 at first I thought it was an error, but realized it looked an awful lot like 5 spaces in nano editor May 29 02:51:09 sure enough, it functions as the auto-complete we all have come to love in bash or whatever shell May 29 02:54:10 did i mention i got a couple of Pre's for 59 USD each? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 29 02:59:58 2012