**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 01 02:59:58 2012
Jun 01 03:51:13 <HattCzech> anyone around that can help with ez-ipupdate on a pre3?
Jun 01 03:52:58 <HattCzech> specifically on why scripts in my /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ folder don't run
Jun 01 04:28:51 <HattCzech> anyone know where the patch files are for all of the webos patches? i can view the information about them, but i'm looking for the .diff file or something similar
Jun 01 04:36:26 <ka6sox> HattCzech, not sure as the patches themselves would be diffs right?
Jun 01 04:37:11 <HattCzech> yeah, and i can't find them
Jun 01 04:37:33 <HattCzech> in the github for webos-internals, i can find the info for the patches
Jun 01 04:37:36 <HattCzech> but not the patch itself
Jun 01 04:37:49 <HattCzech> like descriptions, screenshots, etc
Jun 01 04:37:51 <ka6sox> the diffs are sent to the patchportal.
Jun 01 04:38:00 <ka6sox> look in the patch portal.
Jun 01 04:38:19 <HattCzech> http://patches.webos-internals.org/ ?
Jun 01 04:38:33 <ka6sox> http://patches.webos-internals.org/
Jun 01 04:38:35 <ka6sox> yup\\
Jun 01 04:38:52 <HattCzech> but i still don't see the patch itself, only the description and stuff
Jun 01 04:39:15 <ka6sox> you can download the patches from our ipk server.
Jun 01 04:39:20 <ka6sox> ipkg.preware.org
Jun 01 04:39:21 <bigbluehat> +1 for getting patch code into github
Jun 01 04:40:03 <HattCzech> gotcha, thanks ka6sox
Jun 01 04:40:11 <ka6sox> HattCzech, yw
Jun 01 04:40:32 <bigbluehat> yeah, great find. tnx
Jun 01 04:40:57 <HattCzech> would you be able to help me out with my ez-ipupdate issue as well? :)
Jun 01 04:53:15 <invalidopcode1> okay... so i can't seem to be able to download anything from the app catalog and preware is taking forever to "check device type" is there some connection? (unactivated pre3 with palm profile sign in from impostah)
Jun 01 04:53:22 <invalidopcode1> and yes I have rebooted.... over and over again
Jun 01 04:53:41 <invalidopcode1> any suggestions?
Jun 01 04:54:04 <HattCzech> activate it? :)
Jun 01 04:54:15 <invalidopcode1> don't have at&t
Jun 01 04:54:23 <HattCzech> not unlocked?
Jun 01 04:54:35 <invalidopcode1> I have verizon so it doesn't matter
Jun 01 04:54:46 <HattCzech> gotcha
Jun 01 04:55:14 <HattCzech> i just switched to at&t (yay?), so i'm trying to work my way through some issues on my pre3 as well
Jun 01 04:55:23 <invalidopcode1> ah okay
Jun 01 04:55:38 <HattCzech> but i can download... they just don't seem to work properly :)
Jun 01 04:55:46 <HattCzech> like ez-ipupdate
Jun 01 04:56:08 <invalidopcode1> what does that do exactly? (since you've been asking about it for the last few days)
Jun 01 04:57:01 <HattCzech> hahah, indeed i have
Jun 01 04:57:15 <HattCzech> updates my ip to a dynamic host so i can access ssh remotely
Jun 01 04:57:23 <invalidopcode1> ah okay
Jun 01 04:57:43 <HattCzech> the script works to update the ip (that was the first issue i had), it just doesn't run for some reason
Jun 01 04:58:41 <invalidopcode1> ah interesting
Jun 01 04:59:37 <HattCzech> it makes it more fun to remote in to my phone and run commands on it :)
Jun 01 04:59:41 <HattCzech> like opening apps and such
Jun 01 04:59:47 <HattCzech> or getting my location
Jun 01 05:00:21 <invalidopcode1> haha let people borrow it and scare the heck out of them
Jun 01 05:00:37 <HattCzech> hehehe, yeah, that would be pretty funny
Jun 01 05:01:07 <invalidopcode1> haha yup :P
Jun 01 05:01:26 <invalidopcode1> Is is normal for a palm pre3's deviceId to be blank in impostah?
Jun 01 05:01:41 <rwhitby> It is not.
Jun 01 05:01:56 <rwhitby> Is the modem turned on?
Jun 01 05:02:03 <invalidopcode1> no it not
Jun 01 05:02:18 <rwhitby> deviceId on a phone is read from the modem
Jun 01 05:02:43 <rwhitby> (it's the IMEI or MEID)
Jun 01 05:02:50 <invalidopcode1> ah okay
Jun 01 05:03:01 <invalidopcode1> could that have any relation to my problem?
Jun 01 05:03:40 <invalidopcode1> also... app tuckerbox registeration doesn't seem to be working, it just says "Registeration Submitted"
Jun 01 05:04:43 <rwhitby> try app tuckerbox again now
Jun 01 05:04:56 <invalidopcode1> should i deregister and retry?
Jun 01 05:05:01 <rwhitby> no, just check again
Jun 01 05:05:07 <invalidopcode1> same
Jun 01 05:05:30 <rwhitby> ok, give it a couple of minutes to work through the backlog
Jun 01 05:05:36 <invalidopcode1> okay will do
Jun 01 05:05:40 <HattCzech> hey rod, would there be a reason for scripts in my /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ folder don't run when the interface comes up? is there something i need to add or fix?
Jun 01 05:06:08 <rwhitby> depends on whether the pppd has that functionality enabled
Jun 01 05:11:07 <invalidopcode1> rwhitby: App Tuckerbox seems to work now
Jun 01 05:15:01 <invalidopcode1> well I guess that doesn't help much... I still can't download from the catalog :/
Jun 01 05:15:23 <PatrickC> what about from Preware using App Tuckerbox?
Jun 01 05:15:41 <invalidopcode1> just tried
Jun 01 05:15:53 <invalidopcode1> i hit "install" and it opened up the app catalog
Jun 01 05:16:10 <HattCzech> how could i determine that?
Jun 01 05:17:12 <invalidopcode1> also rwhitby it seems strange that preware takes a good 20-30 seconds to "Check Device Type"
Jun 01 05:17:30 <rwhitby> invalidopcode1: not if you've already said that your device doesn't have a deviceId avaiable
Jun 01 05:17:53 <invalidopcode1> ohh okay, so effects that?
Jun 01 05:18:19 <rwhitby> without a deviceId, you're not going to be able to get anything from the app catalog
Jun 01 05:18:49 <invalidopcode1> then you can't use the app catalog in airplane mode?
Jun 01 05:19:24 <rwhitby> depends whether it has read and stored your deviceId or not
Jun 01 05:19:56 <rwhitby> If Impostah can't see your deviceId, then app catalog can't either.
Jun 01 05:20:02 <invalidopcode1> ah okay
Jun 01 05:20:03 <rwhitby> so you need to fix that first.
Jun 01 05:20:21 <invalidopcode1> okay I will look into that
Jun 01 05:20:23 <rwhitby> how did you install Preware, BTW?
Jun 01 05:20:31 <invalidopcode1> quick install
Jun 01 05:20:51 <rwhitby> does Preware progress past "Check Device Type" ?
Jun 01 05:21:12 <invalidopcode1> yes it does eventually
Jun 01 05:21:19 <invalidopcode1> it just takes a qhile
Jun 01 05:21:21 <invalidopcode1> *while
Jun 01 05:21:36 <rwhitby> ok, so the service bus call is timing out, trying to read the deviceId.
Jun 01 05:22:03 <invalidopcode1> I have a patch installed which turns the radio off, I wonder if that's causing these problems
Jun 01 05:22:47 <invalidopcode1> deviceId isn't dependent on a SIM card correct?
Jun 01 05:26:12 <invalidopcode1> okay i uninstalled that patch, lets see if this makes a difference
Jun 01 05:27:07 <rwhitby> deviceId does not require a SIM car
Jun 01 05:27:09 <rwhitby> d
Jun 01 05:27:42 <invalidopcode1> okay
Jun 01 05:29:58 <invalidopcode1> ooooo the deviceId is back
Jun 01 05:31:11 <invalidopcode1> and downloads are working again!
Jun 01 05:31:41 <invalidopcode1> okay... well I think I'm done causing problems for tonight. Thank you so very much rwhitby - I owe you one
Jun 01 05:31:46 <PatrickC> what happens when you go into airplane mode and turn wifi on?
Jun 01 05:32:25 <invalidopcode1> it works
Jun 01 05:33:34 <PatrickC> ok. just wondering
Jun 01 05:51:35 <HattCzech> rwhitby: how can i determine if pppd has the functionality turned on?
Jun 01 06:43:47 <rwhitby> check the source code?
Jun 01 06:43:58 <rwhitby> put a dummy script in and see if it is called?
Jun 01 19:34:09 <dwc-> HattCzech: https://github.com/webos-internals/patches ... check the other branches
Jun 01 20:05:47 <moshe5368> anything going on today?
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