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Jun 29 04:39:36 <rwhitby> RavenII: https://twitter.com/webosinternals/status/218463548844683264 is a screeching halt?
Jun 29 04:40:36 <RavenII> rwhitby: ...just going by what I'm seeing on preware.
Jun 29 11:52:57 <GarthPS> hello guys. does some one know if it is possible to modify wpa-supplicant to support eap-sim (aka dialogue with the sim card directly)
Jun 29 13:48:10 <RichTea> Oh rwhitby, is there some "testing" info for CE around? like how to get the updates?
Jun 29 13:49:39 <RichTea> also some one said that openWebOS might not end up on devices such as the Veer, is that true?
Jun 29 13:50:47 <stefan_schmidt_w> rwhitby: The statement that the touchpad is the only target at the moment is quite clear
Jun 29 13:50:56 <stefan_schmidt_w> RichTea: The statement that the touchpad is the only target at the moment is quite clear
Jun 29 13:51:22 <stefan_schmidt_w> RichTea: _If_ other devices will be supported is still open at the moment
Jun 29 13:52:23 <RichTea> arrr
Jun 29 13:52:29 <RichTea> shame
Jun 29 13:52:58 <RichTea> hopefully it will come, if HP can release the drivers im sure some one will want to port them
Jun 29 13:53:36 <RichTea> even if i have to learn C and how drivers work in Linux
Jun 29 13:55:37 <stefan_schmidt_w> RichTea: well, a lot of they drivers should be available anyway. Look at the linux kernel code drops
Jun 29 13:55:58 <stefan_schmidt_w> RichTea: Some might be problematic. For the original pre that was the wifi driver
Jun 29 13:56:07 <RichTea> on opensource.palm.com?
Jun 29 13:56:10 <stefan_schmidt_w> But there was already driver in mainline that worked
Jun 29 13:56:13 <stefan_schmidt_w> RichTea: yeah
Jun 29 13:56:31 <RichTea> cool
Jun 29 13:56:32 <stefan_schmidt_w> I did run a self build kernel on the Pre for months
Jun 29 13:56:40 <stefan_schmidt_w> And webos-internals also have own kernels
Jun 29 13:56:54 <RichTea> yes there are a few around
Jun 29 13:57:19 <stefan_schmidt_w> Its mostly a problem with people being motivated and skilled to build it all from source and help bringing openwebos on the device
Jun 29 13:57:27 <RichTea> i have never build kernals or fiddled with drivers, i did compile a few modules but thats quite simple
Jun 29 13:57:30 <stefan_schmidt_w> Modem is a different story though.
Jun 29 13:57:34 <stbuehler> yes, building is the main problem i'd say :)
Jun 29 13:57:37 <RichTea> it would be fun to learn thouugh
Jun 29 13:57:50 <stefan_schmidt_w> kernel driver is only a small part. A lot happends in closed libs in userspace
Jun 29 13:58:11 <RichTea> arrr...
Jun 29 13:58:26 <stefan_schmidt_w> stbuehler: I have no idea how it is right now, but I now that right after the lunch of the pre it was not to bad to build a kernel for it
Jun 29 13:58:45 <stefan_schmidt_w> RichTea: You know C and hardware related programming already?
Jun 29 13:58:47 <stbuehler> well, kernel is the easy part probably (building, that is)
Jun 29 13:59:03 <stefan_schmidt_w> stbuehler: ah, you mean the rest of openwebos?
Jun 29 13:59:08 <stbuehler> yes
Jun 29 13:59:13 <stbuehler> kernel has no dependencie
Jun 29 13:59:18 <stefan_schmidt_w> At least the build for the lunasysmgr worked fine yesterday
Jun 29 13:59:27 <stbuehler> so a pretty "closed" system
Jun 29 13:59:49 <stefan_schmidt_w> Haven't tried it though. Don't have my touchpad here. Still needs to get relocated to me :)
Jun 29 14:00:41 <Stskeeps> at least luna is quite interesting, should teach some people how compositors can work..
Jun 29 14:01:20 <stefan_schmidt_w> Stskeeps: is there a channel you are not it? ;)
Jun 29 14:01:26 <Stskeeps> stefan_schmidt_w: #debian
Jun 29 14:01:41 <stefan_schmidt_w> Stskeeps: heh
Jun 29 14:02:38 <Stskeeps> i have an ongoing project to use the gles bits from touchpad to do something interesting with them..
Jun 29 14:10:09 <RichTea> stefan_schmidt_w: No i do not! it was Collage the last time i did any C
Jun 29 14:11:54 <RichTea> and Collage was 17 years ago!
Jun 29 14:12:13 <stefan_schmidt_w> RichTea: Then starting with kernel drivers could be quite frustrating. Just to warn you. Plan in a lot of time :)
Jun 29 14:12:17 <RichTea> but i have been meening to learn C again
Jun 29 14:12:40 <stefan_schmidt_w> RichTea: just make sure you don't get frustrated easy
Jun 29 14:12:52 <RichTea> stefan_schmidt_w: i do not expect it to be easy
Jun 29 14:12:53 <stefan_schmidt_w> RichTea: often its not the code but understanding the hardware
Jun 29 14:13:03 <stefan_schmidt_w> and reverse engineering parts of it without proper docs
Jun 29 14:13:20 <RichTea> sounds like a fun game
Jun 29 17:56:56 <esca> GarthPS: http://w1.fi/wpa_supplicant/
Jun 29 18:00:56 <RagingMind> PuffTheMagic, did you document anywhere how you got webos on that other phone?
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