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Sep 26 09:56:14 <zefyx> hey all. i can't get webos quick install working for the first time ever. i receive a win32policy error. here's a snip of the complete error.
Sep 26 10:29:08 <zefyx> http://www.zefyx.net/error.png
Sep 26 16:06:33 <dwc-> zefyx: webos quick install is not a webos internals project and users have typically been directed elsewhere
Sep 26 16:08:14 <PatrickC> hey dwc-!
Sep 26 16:10:14 <dwc-> hey
Sep 26 16:10:39 <PatrickC> hows it goin?
Sep 26 16:51:15 <chat78226> hello
Sep 26 16:51:27 <chat78226> why so quiet?
Sep 26 16:58:16 <dwc-> not bad, busy
Sep 26 20:36:40 <bar1> Any TP gurus out there?
Sep 26 20:38:45 <GodGinrai> well, I do know a good bit about the different Paper Companies out there. :P
Sep 26 20:38:54 <bar1> I've got a serious problem that I can't seem to recover from, I'm trying to strip it down to nothing to rebuild with WebOSDr, but even that is not working out
Sep 26 20:39:34 <bar1> Not that TP GodGinrai... TouchPad ;)
Sep 26 21:48:47 <rrix> Probably a strange question, but has anyone tried to hack USB host on to a webOS device?
Sep 26 21:54:52 <scorche|sh> yeah - i have heard of people soing that with the touchpad
Sep 26 22:07:15 <ka6sox> rrix, can be done with TP
Sep 26 22:10:16 <LarrySteeze> rrix: it doesn't have to be hacked. It just works.
Sep 26 22:10:30 <LarrySteeze> You simply need to power the device yourself.
Sep 26 22:22:18 <rrix> What about on a phone?
Sep 26 22:29:05 <rrix> I have some old pre2's that I'd like to do some useful things with
Sep 26 22:29:20 <rrix> Experimenting with building a kernel that has OTG and ACM support so I can hook an arduino directly to it
Sep 26 22:38:27 * rrix just bought a few OTG cables for delivery next week
Sep 26 23:52:18 <LarrySteeze> rrix: haven't tried with a phone
Sep 27 00:00:50 * rrix is trying various ways to charge his phone from a battery pack and such :\
Sep 27 00:02:21 <LarrySteeze> I don't mean power the phone, I mean power the other device
Sep 27 00:02:34 <LarrySteeze> like...using a powered hub
Sep 27 00:06:25 <rrix> Right
Sep 27 00:06:33 <rrix> I'm playing with a bunch of options right now
Sep 27 00:07:39 <rrix> Basically what I want to do is have a single device with >1300mah battery that can drive both an arduino and a pre2
Sep 27 00:07:45 <rrix> while still allowing communication between both
Sep 27 00:08:07 <rrix> I guess I could find a serial port on the pre and use the tx/rx pins but that doesn't sole the charging issues very well
Sep 27 00:08:31 <rrix> I would just buy a raspi, but a raspi+gps+bt+wifi isn't cheap
Sep 27 00:10:41 <LarrySteeze> rrix: only way I know of to do that would be to put it in parallel
Sep 27 00:11:10 <rrix> Yeah, that's not a big issue though
Sep 27 00:11:31 <LarrySteeze> you'd probably need to splice a cord, but that's about it
Sep 27 00:11:37 * rrix nods
Sep 27 00:11:57 <rrix> I worry about pushing power the wrong way, donno if the Fio or the pre has protection
Sep 27 00:12:08 <LarrySteeze> no no
Sep 27 00:12:28 <LarrySteeze> just make sure you use the right leads and you'll be fine. If it's in parallel.
Sep 27 00:12:42 <rrix> oh on the lipos
Sep 27 00:12:44 <rrix> duh
Sep 27 00:12:46 <rrix> :)
Sep 27 00:12:49 <rrix> Yeah, I'm not super worried about that
Sep 27 00:12:59 <rrix> I can 3D print a nice enclosure for them to keep them from messing up
Sep 27 00:13:14 <LarrySteeze> I wouldn't even be worried about that
Sep 27 00:13:30 <LarrySteeze> I'd just build a "3 way" cable
Sep 27 00:13:40 * rrix nods
Sep 27 00:14:02 <LarrySteeze> as long as each piece is insulated and in no danger of coming loose, I'd be cool with it
Sep 27 00:14:09 <rrix> Yeah
Sep 27 00:14:15 <rrix> I'm very nervous about lipos in general :\
Sep 27 00:14:26 * rrix had one blow up a few years back when he crosswired it
Sep 27 00:14:45 <LarrySteeze> but if you want to get fancy, you could build an enclosure that holds the battery and has connectors for each device
Sep 27 00:14:50 <rrix> Yeah
Sep 27 00:14:56 <rrix> I want to build an enclosure for the entire device
Sep 27 00:15:04 <rrix> that replaces the phone's back cover
Sep 27 00:15:10 <LarrySteeze> eh?
Sep 27 00:15:17 <LarrySteeze> let me read back
Sep 27 00:15:21 <rrix> Just snaps on
Sep 27 00:15:31 <rrix> and encloses the batteries and fio and the addon board I end up making
Sep 27 00:15:50 <dwc-> just for charging?
Sep 27 00:15:58 <dwc-> there's some cheap kit for stuff like that
Sep 27 00:16:02 <dwc-> e.g. mintyboost
Sep 27 00:16:23 <LarrySteeze> dwc-: he wants the devices to communicate via usb as well
Sep 27 00:16:44 <dwc-> I think usb otg requires some support in the chipsets
Sep 27 00:16:44 <LarrySteeze> actually, doesn't the arduino support host mode?
Sep 27 00:16:52 <dwc-> on the host
Sep 27 00:23:11 <rrix> LarrySteeze: some do, most don't
Sep 27 00:24:16 * rrix has trouble visualizing/describing what he is trying to do
Sep 27 00:26:22 <rrix> hopefully I can make sense of this next tuesday when my OTG cables arrive
Sep 27 00:27:54 <LarrySteeze> rrix: let me know if you need help
Sep 27 00:27:59 <rrix> I shall do so :)
Sep 27 00:28:05 <LarrySteeze> I don't live your way so I can't physically help you
Sep 27 00:28:37 <LarrySteeze> but I'm better at hardware than software...to the point that the desk I solder on is made of glass :P
Sep 27 00:28:47 <rrix> I wonder if I can make an ioio work
Sep 27 00:29:03 <rrix> meh, rabbithole, don't try
Sep 27 00:43:20 * ka6sox thinks I am invisible to rrix
Sep 27 00:43:27 <rrix> what
Sep 27 00:43:31 * rrix nuzzles ka6sox
Sep 27 00:43:34 <rrix> of course not!
Sep 27 00:43:46 <rrix> You haven't said anything D:
Sep 27 00:44:15 <ka6sox> oh contraire...
Sep 27 00:44:46 <ka6sox> do you want to overheat the device?
Sep 27 01:12:56 <LarrySteeze> rrix: ka6sox is talking to you
Sep 27 01:13:28 <LarrySteeze> though I don't see how it would overheat the device
Sep 27 01:13:54 <ka6sox> okay nm
Sep 27 01:13:59 <ka6sox> I am crazy
Sep 27 01:14:38 <LarrySteeze> ka6sox: ?
Sep 27 01:15:13 <LarrySteeze> ka6sox-away: I want the explanation! I know theres something I'm missing
Sep 27 01:47:55 <rrix> haha
Sep 27 01:48:00 <rrix> ka6sox-away: why would it overheat?
Sep 27 01:49:28 <ka6sox-away> because I am crazy?
Sep 27 01:51:27 <rrix> http://arcbotics.com/store/ buy me one of these
Sep 27 01:52:49 * ka6sox-away *NOT*
Sep 27 01:53:40 <wrea> rrix, After you buy me the TrinityMetal
Sep 27 01:54:08 <rrix> whats that
Sep 27 01:54:27 <rrix> Will that hexabot run openWebOS?
Sep 27 01:54:33 <rrix> If I put a raspi on it?
Sep 27 01:54:35 <rrix> ka6sox-away:
Sep 27 01:55:15 <ka6sox-away>  I am certain I have NO opinion.
Sep 27 01:55:32 <wrea> rrix, 3D printer. http://www.flickr.com/photos/willrea/7998562177/in/photostream
Sep 27 01:57:01 <rrix> Cute
Sep 27 01:57:05 <rrix> reminds me of a mendel 90
Sep 27 01:57:33 * rrix and another guy got our cupcake derivative working again today
Sep 27 01:57:37 <rrix> so I have two 3D printers now <3
Sep 27 01:57:49 <wrea> Cant use a mendel 90 as a light duty CNC :P
Sep 27 01:57:53 <rrix> ;)
Sep 27 01:58:21 <wrea> Building a MM now
Sep 27 01:58:29 <ka6sox-away> the MM is great
Sep 27 01:59:09 <wrea> I'm on the list for the y axis upgrade and waiting for the smoothieboard
Sep 27 01:59:51 <rrix> Cool :)
Sep 27 02:01:21 <wrea> I went to the portland maker faire, they didnt have the MM Pro going though
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