**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 27 02:59:58 2013 Mar 27 03:27:53 welcome back ka6sox Mar 27 03:29:34 thanks...long tiring day Mar 27 03:30:09 same Mar 27 03:30:16 had to call a suicide squad on my mother Mar 27 03:30:23 and it still didnt get her help Mar 27 03:30:24 RagingMind: i've taken my Pre3 apart and replaced the lens cover. not the easiest thing in the world Mar 27 03:30:26 but doable Mar 27 03:30:41 PatrickC|Away, geeze, id do that over what i just did any day Mar 27 03:30:53 i bet, sorry to hear what you had to do Mar 27 03:32:25 if you care to read the details, you're welcome to Mar 27 03:32:30 i have the log up on my vps Mar 27 04:05:46 csc`, sorry to hear that. Mar 27 04:06:41 ka6sox, eh, i disowned my father for what he did, my sister agrees that she needs rehab or she is never going to see her kids or grandkids again Mar 27 05:06:30 csc`: ugh. i had a parental unit that i had to send an email to saying that if she did not seek mental help, she would never hear from me, her other two children, or her grand children, ever again. she said "I guess that's goodbye, then." Mar 27 05:07:11 EricBlade: sorry to hear that... Mar 27 05:07:37 yeah Mar 27 05:07:58 my father threw away millions of lines of code and all of my servers, machines, tools, you name it Mar 27 05:08:17 PatrickC|Away: it is what it is. at 50-something, i doubt any amount of mental health is going to help her, but if she were at least trying, i'd give her one more chance. Mar 27 05:08:19 all i got was "I really dont know" three years later when I asked if he had my stuff Mar 27 05:14:22 sucks, but on the bright side, once you eliminate the family who believe you should love them unconditionally even if they are collossal a-holes, you get to pick and choose who you want to hang out with. Mar 27 05:15:58 about a month after that email conversation, another family member called me up out of the blue, noting that it'd been about 15 years since we ran into each other, and that it'd be really nice to get together during the holidays. I agreed, showed up, and he asked me to lend him money. Mar 27 05:16:21 lol Mar 27 05:16:27 haha Mar 27 05:16:30 my uncle tried to call me gay for disowning my father Mar 27 05:16:52 i embarassed someone 3x my age on a facebook thread he decided to show his rear by making Mar 27 05:17:12 he thought it was funny to make my sister cry on facebook for using it for its intended purpose Mar 27 05:17:29 then tried threatening me with the fbi for cyber-terrorism and e-bullying Mar 27 05:17:38 still waiting for them to show up, even gave him a GPS fix Mar 27 05:18:00 lol Mar 27 05:18:45 was kinda funny, he wouldn't fly down here because im not worth it, i offered to pay for him and his son's plane ticket and they declined saying i should bring myself there (so he can shoot me on his property legally because i'd give them both a beatdown and gut them like fishes) Mar 27 05:19:13 gay or not, I'd probably respond to that "you sure do got a purty mouth, uncle" Mar 27 05:19:30 it was in reference to a vague message to get money for food from an aunt Mar 27 05:19:50 in which i siphoned gas and got swallowed some so i could spend the money on food instead of fuel Mar 27 05:20:53 i've been using that "you sure do got a purty mouth" a lot today, what with all the fundies on facebook posting their hate today Mar 27 05:21:06 eh i stopped using facebook Mar 27 05:21:14 cia runs it, no thanks Mar 27 05:23:12 i gotta head to sleep so i can do awesome webos things tomorrow. hope your mom gets the help she needs, csc Mar 27 05:23:15 finally Mar 27 05:23:20 i find the webos seal! Mar 27 05:23:34 a wallpaper worthy of disabling switcharoo for Mar 27 05:23:57 EricBlade, she won't, she already proved that tonight with her suicide sham. Mar 27 05:24:28 i still have hope for mine, i'll hold some for yours too Mar 27 05:25:48 anyone in here tried running the psp emulator on a pre+? Mar 27 05:26:00 doubtful but i'll ask anyway since nobody wants to answer it in the thread yet :< Mar 27 05:26:15 csc`: does the Pre+ have the resources to run a PSP emu? Mar 27 05:26:28 if it'll run on a stock pre2 Mar 27 05:26:33 it should run on a pre+ Mar 27 05:26:38 Pre2 has more RAM Mar 27 05:26:40 IIRC Mar 27 05:26:42 nope Mar 27 05:26:53 not that i know of Mar 27 05:26:53 i think the pre2 has 1GB RAM and the Pre+ has 512 Mar 27 05:26:56 i could be wrong Mar 27 05:27:10 pretty sure the pre+ 2 and 3 all have 512 Mar 27 05:27:10 last i checked Mar 27 05:27:24 the 3 doesn't have all it's RAM usable iirc Mar 27 05:27:29 been forever since i was going webOS stuff Mar 27 05:27:34 been going android only lately Mar 27 05:29:08 stupid tether Mar 27 05:29:18 anyway, last i checked they all had 512 Mar 27 05:29:26 i looked at a side by side comparison somewhere Mar 27 05:30:13 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_pre_2 Mar 27 05:30:14 512 Mar 27 05:30:22 O_o guess i was wrong Mar 27 05:30:33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre_3 Mar 27 05:30:34 512 Mar 27 05:30:56 no difference between my phone besides clock speed, camera resolution, screen res and software Mar 27 05:31:14 i think the lack of extra ram is why the pre3 isnt on my wishlist Mar 27 05:31:26 dunno if it sent but i asked this: Mar 27 05:31:27 odd question but what were to happen if i have my pre on a touchstone and plug the usb cable in? Mar 27 05:32:35 i think it would switch to USB mode Mar 27 05:32:39 gonna lumberjack the app and see why its failing Mar 27 05:32:55 PatrickC, well i ment as in would the voltages just fry it? Mar 27 05:33:04 dont think so Mar 27 05:33:04 plugging in a usb cable to power along with charging on a touchstone Mar 27 05:33:13 i had mine on a touchstone and plugged a 2amp charget into it Mar 27 05:33:36 the phone is smarter then most give it credit for.. sometimes :) Mar 27 05:33:38 at the sake of overheating Mar 27 05:33:46 im going to overclock it to a ghz Mar 27 05:33:53 and override the templimit Mar 27 05:33:57 crap... Mar 27 05:34:00 luna crashed Mar 27 05:34:01 i ran my Pre as 1.2GHz all the time Mar 27 05:34:07 and the Pre2 at 1.4GHz Mar 27 05:34:12 my Pre3 is always at 1.9GHz lol Mar 27 05:34:15 PatrickC, do you tether at full 3g on a touchstone? Mar 27 05:34:21 i have Mar 27 05:34:23 because i generate about 125f Mar 27 05:34:29 it gets hot as hell Mar 27 05:34:33 i ran my Pixi at almost 70C Mar 27 05:34:44 and im aware the only thing that will eat my phone is heat and liquid Mar 27 05:34:50 and throwing a brick at it Mar 27 05:35:09 ive also noticed that since i got my pre+ the bottom of the screen diffuses weird Mar 27 05:35:19 brighter in some spots, such as the right corner Mar 27 05:35:20 had that happen to my pre2 Mar 27 05:35:47 regardless until i can get a replacement I wont dare push it past the safe limits Mar 27 05:35:57 good idea Mar 27 05:36:05 and terminus sucks balls, always takes luna down Mar 27 05:36:13 i have several pre2s around when i used to use it as a daily device, so i didn't mind :P Mar 27 05:36:15 people wonder why i still use terminal Mar 27 05:36:26 PatrickC, still got one laying around? Mar 27 05:36:34 im remotely interested in a pre2 for webos 2.x Mar 27 05:36:40 but its not high on my priority list Mar 27 05:36:42 Shadowflank: i do, but most of them don't work that good lol Mar 27 05:36:48 as in? Mar 27 05:37:32 keyboards don't work good, screens messed up, cameras went bad, wifi boards went bad Mar 27 05:37:35 tokens are bad Mar 27 05:37:58 got one with a mucked camera? Mar 27 05:38:11 whats the other issues with that one Mar 27 05:38:28 i think it has some keyboard issues too Mar 27 05:38:36 they are all scratched and dented like crazy too Mar 27 05:38:41 just keep them around for media devices now Mar 27 05:39:02 ah, was wanting one for science Mar 27 05:39:05 :p Mar 27 05:39:24 lumberjack shows no errors Mar 27 05:39:29 application just fails to start Mar 27 05:39:35 should i reboot before shooting it down? Mar 27 05:39:45 probably Mar 27 05:40:10 ill be back in a few minutes then Mar 27 05:40:16 should be fairly quick reboot with 1ghz on Mar 27 05:40:24 heh Mar 27 05:40:44 by the way, i find it funny that knowing what i know, i can seriously annoy another nearby webos user with tellbootie Mar 27 05:40:44 =3 Mar 27 05:40:47 brb Mar 27 05:48:27 holy... Mar 27 05:48:29 it runs! Mar 27 05:48:35 lemme dig an iso up and try loading a game Mar 27 06:05:39 no cso support Mar 27 06:05:43 gayness Mar 27 06:07:23 * csc` goes to find a iso and not a cso Mar 27 06:26:39 doesnt seem to want to load any games Mar 27 06:41:00 oh well Mar 27 06:41:03 to be expected Mar 27 06:44:23 guess the good news is, once the touchpad arrives eventually, i'll be able to provide some serious compatibility testing info Mar 27 06:44:43 i have a massive library from ripping off Gamestop and used games =3 Mar 27 07:45:40 nice, I dethroned GMMan on poster shoutouts Mar 27 07:53:22 stalking the unanswered posts, trying to answer the ones I can, or simply thank someone for posting valuable information Mar 27 15:29:47 oh god that was bad Mar 27 15:29:55 woke up to my laptop in a small puddle of water Mar 27 15:42:52 what happened? Mar 27 15:42:57 oh, and nice indent csc` :) Mar 27 15:44:10 ? Mar 27 15:44:21 ident? what, my cloak? Mar 27 15:45:09 yeah Mar 27 15:45:13 and my cat steals food now because of the one i got rid of that started the whole fiasco with my mom, PatrickC. The food was disgusting for even me to eat so I think he shook his head like a cat does eating, and knocked the cup of water on the desk which slowly pooled around the edges Mar 27 15:45:34 he tried waking me up too it would seem Mar 27 15:46:02 O_o the laptop ok? Mar 27 15:46:04 but when i walked in to boot it up and resume my daily internetting, my sock got wet Mar 27 15:46:13 i was thought it was urine Mar 27 15:46:23 and then i traced it to the source Mar 27 15:46:47 i popped the crap out of his rear too, and he ran away big time. He knew what he did, he knew it was wrong. Mar 27 15:46:58 PatrickC, talking on it now Mar 27 15:47:05 that's good :) Mar 27 15:47:22 PatrickC, as for my archlinux cloak, i dislike the project now Mar 27 15:47:40 they're like gentoo was back when i tried to use gentoo after building an LFS system Mar 27 15:47:52 dude they replaced mysql with moriadb Mar 27 15:48:07 i'd gladly swap it out for a webos affiliated cloak Mar 27 15:48:16 and ive had this thing for as long as 06 Mar 27 15:48:29 that says something now =\ Mar 27 15:49:04 wow.. Mar 27 15:49:09 i wish we had webOS cloaks Mar 27 15:49:33 you could probably get a project for webos-internals Mar 27 15:49:44 we are in the single hashtag namespace Mar 27 15:49:45 and open source Mar 27 15:49:48 not right now, as GRS is down Mar 27 15:49:58 just saying :P Mar 27 15:50:04 heh yeah :) Mar 27 15:50:14 im going to get a project cloak for my channel once GRS opens up Mar 27 15:50:34 which channel? Mar 27 15:50:35 or project rather Mar 27 15:50:41 this? Mar 27 15:50:51 nope, i run an android development channel Mar 27 15:53:19 ah Mar 27 15:53:35 but yeah i'd love a webos-internals affiliated cloak xD Mar 27 15:53:47 phrakture gave me this one and they tried ripping it from me but i ripped them a new one Mar 27 15:56:53 lol Mar 27 15:59:15 neat Mar 27 15:59:25 may have solved that guy's issue with the pre3 message problem Mar 27 15:59:38 saw that another guy had a veer with a similar issue Mar 27 16:04:36 also nearly crapped myself when I looked for Forums and it wasn't there. I didn't know it went free in the app catalog Mar 27 16:04:52 unless it just didn't install, and still is a paid application Mar 27 16:05:14 i haven't used Forums in a while Mar 27 16:05:26 * PatrickC is so happy Mar 27 16:05:26 i use it from time to time Mar 27 16:05:38 ? Mar 27 16:05:43 successfully set up http://paste.pcontech.cz.cc/ and http://pcontech.cz.cc/downloads-website in the past day :) Mar 27 16:05:56 i'm still new to webdev/sysadmin stuff. so it's kinda a big deal for me :P Mar 27 16:08:20 oh if you need help with anything linux related lemme know Mar 27 16:08:32 will do Mar 27 16:08:40 not an expert but i know my way around setting up websites usually Mar 27 16:12:06 apparently it isnt free, just never installed when i doctored Mar 27 16:12:08 weird Mar 27 16:19:05 has anyone EVER gotten dosbox to run without crashing luna on their phone? Mar 27 16:19:24 i got it to happen maybe once on my pixi, but if you killed the window the phone would reboot Mar 27 16:19:46 csc`: question, you any good with mysql? Mar 27 16:19:59 depends Mar 27 16:20:07 in what subject? Mar 27 16:20:11 need to raise the default limit per input Mar 27 16:20:32 have some things on my paste site that are going to be >20k lines, which is larger than 1MB Mar 27 16:21:10 dunno advanced stuff like that Mar 27 16:21:19 https://gist.github.com/5255599 that's what i'm trying to do/the error i'm getting Mar 27 16:21:20 ahh ok Mar 27 16:21:24 I write my own php library to use a flat file database Mar 27 16:21:32 usually of my own design Mar 27 16:21:39 gotcha Mar 27 16:22:04 lately i have been lazy, I want to write an object to store the database in some sort of hierarchical form inside a zip archive Mar 27 16:22:16 to greater improve my flat file database schemes Mar 27 16:22:34 PatrickC, i can ask my friend, he's good with sql Mar 27 16:22:46 actually, just got an answer from the #mysql channel :) Mar 27 16:22:54 turns out my user doesn't have the SUPER privilage Mar 27 16:23:00 * PatrickC pings his sysadmin Mar 27 16:23:06 heh heh Mar 27 16:23:22 beauty of having your server on a friends massive VPS Mar 27 16:23:36 eh i pay 5.75 a month for mine Mar 27 16:23:40 nice Mar 27 16:23:43 you have root and all? Mar 27 16:23:44 pretty decent specs too Mar 27 16:23:47 yes Mar 27 16:23:52 that's pretty good Mar 27 16:24:17 tb of bandwith, 25gb of space, static ip, one 3.2 or 3.5ghz core, and 1 gig of ram Mar 27 16:24:21 OpenVZ Mar 27 16:24:32 nice Mar 27 16:24:45 PatrickC, if you're looking for your own, it could be fairly cheap and you dont even know it. Let me get you a link to something real quick Mar 27 16:24:59 ok Mar 27 16:25:42 PatrickC, http://www.lowendbox.com/ Mar 27 16:25:54 hunt around on there, eventually you'll find a killer deal like I did Mar 27 16:26:03 and my vps is hosted nearby too Mar 27 16:26:06 :) Mar 27 16:26:09 nice :) Mar 27 16:26:18 i live near Nashville, so there are a lot of things close to me Mar 27 16:26:36 im in LA, my vps is in dallas Mar 27 16:26:46 louisiana, not los angeles Mar 27 16:43:32 gah Mar 27 16:43:33 out of smokes Mar 27 17:30:53 neato Mar 27 17:31:08 i managed to the psp emulator running on 1.4.5 Mar 27 18:04:27 nice csc` Mar 27 20:04:21 PatrickC|Away: you woudln't want to SET GLOBAL it from there anyways Mar 27 20:04:40 otherwise it'll go away on restart anyways Mar 27 20:07:05 ... and if you just set up a paste-y thing, why did you post that snippet to github instead.... Mar 27 21:35:27 PatrickC|Away: PRe3 has less available ram, cause some is used by the modem, whereas on the Pre2 the modem has it's own separate ram chip. Mar 27 22:12:57 fuck baby **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 28 02:59:58 2013