**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 11 02:59:59 2013
Apr 11 06:43:03 <crypticmofo> hi all just got my pre2 put my account on there and it rebooted 2 times .. i want to put it back to factory
Apr 11 06:43:29 <crypticmofo> do i download webos doctor and just erae it ?
Apr 11 06:44:01 <crypticmofo> or do i just erae it from system info ?
Apr 11 06:47:28 <crypticmofo> also backing up sms looks so crazy in webosnation that there isn't really helping it wants a db3 file from /var/luna and its not there at all
Apr 11 14:01:48 <crypticmofo> hola
Apr 11 14:02:08 <RagingMind> 'ello
Apr 11 14:02:20 <crypticmofo> went back to the pre on pre 2
Apr 11 14:05:59 <crypticmofo> i remembver webos doctor was hard to get .. where can i find this again
Apr 11 14:06:03 <crypticmofo> i have a pre 2 verizon
Apr 11 14:06:16 <crypticmofo> i know the main website lets me download a verizon doctor but its only a link
Apr 11 14:06:59 <csc`> impatient little person i see
Apr 11 14:16:23 <crypticmofo> sorry installed quick install
Apr 11 14:16:41 <csc`> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions
Apr 11 14:17:21 <crypticmofo> thanks csc`
Apr 11 14:39:14 <crypticmofo> can i install things from preware from webosquickinstall without rebooting every 5 mins
Apr 11 14:41:53 <RagingMind> parsing that sentence... I think there's a misunderstanding somewhere, but I have to run away to work :(
Apr 11 14:42:16 <crypticmofo> heh
Apr 11 14:42:19 <crypticmofo> looks basic
Apr 11 14:42:34 <RagingMind> crypticmofo, hang out for a bit.  the channel is quiet these days, but people still drop in
Apr 11 14:49:50 <crypticmofo> yea
Apr 11 14:50:02 <crypticmofo> rebooting all the time and a boot time that takes 5 mins is crazy lol
Apr 11 14:50:45 <crypticmofo> also its crazy all the webos sites got merged into 1 site the webosnation thing
Apr 11 15:00:42 <csc`> crypticmofo, you can install via preware or internalz
Apr 11 15:01:06 <csc`> crypticmofo, but if you manually install it, you probably still have to restart luna or reboot
Apr 11 15:01:09 <csc`> depending on the application
Apr 11 15:02:02 <crypticmofo> ok
Apr 11 15:04:12 <crypticmofo> csc` i remember something back then to install a kernel to help with battery
Apr 11 15:04:20 <crypticmofo> govna and uberkernel
Apr 11 15:04:23 <crypticmofo> does that sound right ?
Apr 11 15:04:36 <csc`> yes.
Apr 11 15:04:49 <csc`> what device because i have posted optimizations for the Pre+ which can be adapted to suit your needs
Apr 11 15:05:23 <csc`> it is the best that I have found so far, with my phone lasting an estimated 2-4 days on idle
Apr 11 15:05:34 <crypticmofo> csc` pre2 verizon
Apr 11 15:06:16 <csc`> never had one, but you should be able to base a Govnah profile off of mine and tweak it to your needs
Apr 11 15:06:58 <crypticmofo> aw
Apr 11 15:11:00 <csc`> everyone uses their device different
Apr 11 15:11:10 <csc`> i seldom use it now except for a tether and a phone
Apr 11 15:11:24 <crypticmofo> no sms ?
Apr 11 15:11:32 <csc`> the profile i created is ment to maximize power savings while the phone is not in use but not compromise performance while in use
Apr 11 15:11:35 <crypticmofo> yea im not doing hardcore stuff
Apr 11 15:11:43 <csc`> Im shadowflank on the forums
Apr 11 15:11:45 <crypticmofo> i just use it to sms phone and check whatever once in a while
Apr 11 15:11:59 <csc`> the thread in question is "Optimizing powersave via govnah" in the Pixi/Pixi+ forum
Apr 11 15:14:06 <crypticmofo> i thought the galaxy s3 battery was bad
Apr 11 15:14:08 <crypticmofo> o_O
Apr 11 15:51:47 <crypticmofo> anyone else on a pre 2
Apr 11 15:52:32 <crypticmofo> just trying to get the most out of it .. i have so far installed preware data toggle / uberkernel / govnah / internalz / luna manager
Apr 11 15:52:39 <crypticmofo> am i missing anything important ?
Apr 11 15:52:55 <crypticmofo> normal user phone sms check internet once in a while
Apr 11 15:53:09 <crypticmofo> oops / normal user (phone, sms, email)
Apr 11 15:54:08 <crypticmofo> not a power user
Apr 11 16:00:07 <ka6sox> I have a Pre2 that I still use daily
Apr 11 16:00:20 <ka6sox> but I no longer use it as a phone...just as a mini-tablet
Apr 11 16:00:54 <ka6sox> (well...its more like my old PDA)
Apr 11 16:17:43 <crypticmofo> ka6sox any reason to not use it as a phone anymore ?
Apr 11 16:19:51 <ka6sox> because it only does EVDO on T-Mobile..my carrier
Apr 11 16:35:15 <crypticmofo> only rason ?
Apr 11 16:35:22 <crypticmofo> s/rason/reason/
Apr 11 16:35:23 <infobot> crypticmofo meant: only reason ?
Apr 11 16:35:48 <crypticmofo> ka6sox any govnah settings i should know about the pre2 that could help in battery life?
Apr 11 16:43:04 <ka6sox> [15:09] 	<ka6sox>	[17:02:10] same thing as before...turn off EVERYTHING you don't need
Apr 11 16:44:24 <ka6sox> in general the conservative governor is least aggressive but most laggy
Apr 11 16:44:27 <crypticmofo> this one thread said turn on wifi
Apr 11 16:44:40 <ka6sox> if you aren't using wifi..turn it off.
Apr 11 16:44:45 <crypticmofo> ok
Apr 11 16:45:04 <ka6sox> when I'm travelling between places...I turn my unit into airplane mode (but then I don't use it for phone)
Apr 11 16:45:17 <ka6sox> I get 3-4days of life out of a charge
Apr 11 17:24:28 <crypticmofo> hmm
Apr 11 17:25:44 <crypticmofo> i got a govnah profile running at 600mhz
Apr 11 17:25:49 <crypticmofo> reminds me of my pre plus i had
Apr 11 17:25:53 <crypticmofo> hella slow
Apr 11 17:36:54 <crypticmofo> im installing these patches and now i can't access the top menus
Apr 11 17:37:04 <crypticmofo> ie there is a mega mix patch and now i can't turn wifi off or on
Apr 11 17:43:50 <crypticmofo> also is that normal or not
Apr 11 17:44:12 <crypticmofo> i been installing stuff thru quick install not on the phone phyiscally thru preware
Apr 11 17:57:33 <crypticmofo> i fixed it lots of patches
Apr 11 18:49:13 <zoidburg> hello is anyone here who has a veer?
Apr 11 21:35:03 <crypticmofo>   wow so dead
Apr 11 22:22:46 <crypticmofo> guys the webosdoctor is a .zip or a .jar ?
Apr 11 22:22:50 <crypticmofo> or do i just rename it to .jar ?
Apr 11 22:25:14 <crypticmofo> yea .jar
Apr 11 23:09:57 <crypticmofo> is there a way to see a list of preware packages like on a website
Apr 11 23:10:13 <crypticmofo> i just installed just charge and it didn't let me finish reading the description
Apr 11 23:10:39 <crypticmofo> http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/preware/all/Packages this fails!
Apr 11 23:11:25 <crypticmofo> i got it
Apr 12 00:26:34 <dwc-> the doctor is a jar, but a jar is a zip
Apr 12 00:26:39 <dwc-> :p
Apr 12 00:27:34 <dwc-> and I have a pre2 too
Apr 12 00:27:40 <dwc-> ka6sox: no 1900mhz refarm down near you?
Apr 12 00:27:42 <dwc-> sad :(
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