**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 04 02:59:58 2013
May 04 05:26:39 <young001> hi,guys,how can I show chinese in terminal?
May 04 05:38:54 <ka6sox> in Terminal?
May 04 05:38:59 <ka6sox> hmmm
May 04 05:39:09 <ka6sox> not seen that before on a webOS device
May 04 05:50:33 <young001> ka6sox, yeah,optware is awesome,so the webos is total a linux device with all in control
May 04 05:50:52 <young001> ka6sox, terminal only can show english :-(
May 04 05:56:10 <ka6sox> young001, there might be some chinese encodings someplace..but I can't remember if they were ever packaged up
May 04 05:57:12 <young001> ka6sox, I use lftp in terminal ,I have change the ftp server encoding to utf-8,it still show in mess
May 04 06:15:02 <dwc-> Terminal, the webos 1.x terminal?
May 04 06:15:09 <dwc-> yikes, so old
May 04 14:43:07 <cryptic_> guys need help with a patch
May 04 14:44:05 <cryptic_> nevermind i just answered my own thing
May 04 14:44:07 <cryptic_> o_O
May 04 14:45:46 <cryptic_> ka6sox,  you around ?
May 04 14:47:56 <ka6sox> NCY
May 04 14:48:02 <cryptic_> hmm ?
May 04 14:48:09 <ka6sox> No Coffee Yet
May 04 14:48:14 <cryptic_> oh
May 04 14:48:42 <cryptic_> mind if i throw something out there real quick while you get your NCY ?
May 04 14:52:10 <cryptic_> my pre2 seems like its faster on 2.0.1 then 2.1.0 but the patches i want and need are on 2.1.0 .. 2.1.0 seems like it kills my battery regardless .. so what should i do ?
May 04 14:54:16 <iDG> 2.2.4 is even worse.
May 04 14:56:15 <cryptic_> yea
May 04 14:56:26 <iDG> sometimes, i don't really know what triggers it, the battery burns out in six hours.
May 04 14:56:48 <cryptic_> yep
May 04 14:56:56 <iDG> with the stock kernel, 2.2.4 on pre 2 is basically unusable.
May 04 14:57:56 <iDG> it may be due to the fact that some of the design choices are dumb in a way that hurts the brain.
May 04 14:59:24 <iDG> like moving from a simple albeit relational db to a "nosql" style storage engine, but still trying to do things "the relational way". for example the chat threader.
May 04 15:24:19 <cryptic_> o_O
May 04 15:46:05 <cryptic_> im gonna have to go back to 2.1.0 because the patch that i want is only for 2.1.0
May 04 15:46:34 <cryptic_> System: Remove Tap Ripple
May 04 15:50:10 <PatrickC> morning all.. good to see activity in here :)
May 04 15:51:53 <cryptic_> lol
May 04 15:52:01 <cryptic_> im trying to keep it alive
May 04 15:52:08 <cryptic_> my pre2 is my primary phone so i always have questions
May 04 15:52:27 <PatrickC> my Pre2 was my primary phone till we moved to AT&T
May 04 15:52:42 <cryptic_> what do you use now ?
May 04 15:52:56 <PatrickC> Lumia 920
May 04 15:53:04 <PatrickC> and my recently received HTC One
May 04 15:53:44 <cryptic_> no webos device ?
May 04 15:53:53 <PatrickC> i have them, just not daily drivers
May 04 15:53:59 <cryptic_> aw
May 04 15:54:02 <PatrickC> have the Veer 4G and a few Pre3s, as well as older ones
May 04 15:54:17 <PatrickC> just not up to par with the latest tech.. i still use my touchpad though :)
May 04 15:54:35 <dwc-> cryptic_: you can try porting that patch
May 04 15:54:41 <cryptic_> dwc-,  how
May 04 15:54:49 <dwc-> all it does is change a setting in /etc/palm/lunaAnimations.conf
May 04 15:55:43 <PatrickC> you can also manually apply the patch..
May 04 15:55:48 <PatrickC> i used to help port patches heh
May 04 15:55:56 <cryptic_> can't i just look at the patch and see it does then manyally change it
May 04 15:56:01 <dwc-> yes you can
May 04 15:56:04 <PatrickC> yeah, that's what i'm talking about
May 04 15:56:09 <PatrickC> i used to do that a ton (or try to)
May 04 15:56:17 <PatrickC> haven't touched patches in well over a year :/
May 04 15:56:28 <dwc-> and if it works, you can submit an update to the patch portal so that you and other people can get it through preware too
May 04 15:57:37 <dwc-> start here: https://github.com/webos-internals/patches
May 04 15:58:05 <dwc-> pick the branch corresponding to the webos version you see the patch in already
May 04 15:59:25 <dwc-> you said system: remove tap ripple so it should then be under system/remove-tap-ripple.patch or something lik ethat
May 04 15:59:54 <dwc-> when you've tested it and it works on another version, submit an update... see the Patches: link in the irc channel topic
May 04 16:04:55 <dwc-> should just be the same patch, just checking a webos version
May 04 16:23:43 <cryptic_> dwc-,  you around still ?
May 04 16:25:03 <cryptic_> im on patches.webos-internals.org and i see the patch i want
May 04 16:26:40 <cryptic_> or PatrickC where do i get the patch .. i know i can get it from preware on the device but the patch though
May 04 16:26:50 <cryptic_> http://patches.webos-internals.org/?do=browse&webosver=2.1.0&category=all
May 04 16:26:55 <cryptic_> im looking here
May 04 16:28:00 <PatrickC> https://github.com/webos-internals/patches/blob/webos-2.1.0/system/system-remove-tap-ripple.patch
May 04 16:28:11 <cryptic_> oh
May 04 16:28:21 <cryptic_> so i download the repo like i did the meta doctor right ?
May 04 16:28:49 <PatrickC> well, there is a "raw" button at the top there
May 04 16:28:56 <PatrickC> just click that to download that specific patch
May 04 16:31:08 <cryptic_> PatrickC,  https://github.com/webos-internals/patches/tree/webos-2.1.0/system ?
May 04 16:31:22 <cryptic_> i see yours says blob in there .. how did you get that ?
May 04 16:31:25 <cryptic_> mine says tree
May 04 16:31:27 <cryptic_> same thing or what ?
May 04 16:31:38 <PatrickC> https://raw.github.com/webos-internals/patches/webos-2.1.0/system/system-remove-tap-ripple.patch
May 04 16:35:25 <cryptic_> umm
May 04 16:35:33 <cryptic_> PatrickC, n00b still .. how did you get raw
May 04 16:35:43 <cryptic_> cause im going github.webos-internals.org right
May 04 16:35:53 <cryptic_> then i can go to tree and find what you said
May 04 16:35:55 <PatrickC> github.com/webos-internals
May 04 16:36:08 <cryptic_> ok
May 04 16:39:24 <cryptic_> PatrickC,  then ?
May 04 16:42:02 <PatrickC> i gave you the links
May 04 16:44:37 <cryptic_> yes but if i want to do this myself i need to find it myself
May 04 16:46:05 <PatrickC> just follow the github. go to http://github.com/webos-internals, chose your branch (webOS-2.1.0), navigate to system/system-premove-tap-ripple.patch, then click on the "raw" button at the top of the file
May 04 16:49:41 <cryptic_> PatrickC,  or dwc do i apply the patch or do i just change the settings in lunaanimations.conf to see if it works ?
May 04 16:53:50 <PatrickC> change it to see if it works first
May 04 16:56:33 <cryptic_> ok
May 04 16:56:36 <cryptic_> restarting
May 04 16:56:48 <cryptic_> i did a luna restart should i have done a full restart ?
May 04 16:56:56 <PatrickC> try luna
May 04 16:56:59 <PatrickC> if it doesn't work, full
May 04 17:02:33 <cryptic_> PatrickC,  still ripples
May 04 17:02:41 <PatrickC> try full
May 04 17:11:41 <cryptic_> PatrickC, ripple still there
May 04 17:11:55 <PatrickC> odd, not sure
May 04 17:11:57 <PatrickC> sorry
May 04 17:12:10 <cryptic_> should i have copied and pasted some of the stuff
May 04 17:12:18 <cryptic_> i just did a little under the patch
May 04 17:12:42 <cryptic_> [Reticle]
May 04 17:12:43 <cryptic_> -reticleDuration=200
May 04 17:12:43 <cryptic_> +reticleDuration=0
May 04 17:12:43 <cryptic_>  reticleCurve=0
May 04 17:13:13 <cryptic_> there is actually more in the patch but it has stuff like  --- a/etc/palm/lunaAnimations.conf or +++ b/etc/palm/lunaAnimations.conf
May 04 17:13:26 <PatrickC> the --- means to take away that line
May 04 17:13:29 <PatrickC> the +++ means to add that line
May 04 17:13:41 <PatrickC> don't put it all in there, it's just showing what should be done :)
May 04 17:13:43 <PatrickC> it's a diff file
May 04 17:13:56 <cryptic_> oh ok
May 04 17:14:24 <cryptic_> how about @@ -63,7 +63,7 @@ universalSearchCrossFadeCurve=6
May 04 17:15:02 <PatrickC> i /believe/ that's showing that it was a line change
May 04 17:15:04 <PatrickC> i could be wrong
May 04 17:15:26 <cat-xeger> Looks like a change to the same line
May 04 17:15:35 <PatrickC> all you should be changing is reticleDuration=200 to reticleDuration=0
May 04 17:15:43 <cryptic_> oh
May 04 17:15:50 <PatrickC> oh, and yeah, what cat-xeger said
May 04 17:15:52 <cryptic_> i thought i had to look like that
May 04 17:15:53 <cryptic_> lol
May 04 17:15:54 <PatrickC> that is a change to the same line
May 04 17:16:05 <PatrickC> universalSearchCrossFadeCurve=6 launcherCardReorderScrollPauseDuration=550
May 04 17:16:13 <PatrickC> i think
May 04 17:16:19 <cryptic_> i see
May 04 17:16:20 <PatrickC> i haven't looked at patches/diffs in so long :P
May 04 17:17:19 <cat-xeger> "wah" ;D
May 04 17:20:45 <cryptic_> well i get it now
May 04 17:20:48 <cryptic_> the patch is color coded
May 04 17:20:59 <cryptic_> red = taking away green is adding
May 04 17:21:35 <cryptic_> w00t no ripple
May 04 17:21:41 <cryptic_> does that mean i can submit a patch ?
May 04 17:22:59 <PatrickC> yeah
May 04 17:23:58 <cryptic_> well its the same one from 2.1.0
May 04 17:24:08 <cryptic_> does that mean i just follow the submit a patch but just 2.0.1 on it
May 04 17:26:00 <cryptic_> also how do i make a patch if i just changed files and it works now
May 04 17:26:03 <cryptic_> is htere a process
May 04 17:51:00 <cryptic_> PatrickC,  you  mind helping me submitting this patch so i can get a feel for it ?
May 04 17:51:34 <cryptic_> this one i just  changed what needed to be changed and it worked
May 04 18:06:46 <cryptic_> oh crap i made a patch
May 04 18:08:15 <PatrickC> nice cryptic_
May 04 18:08:21 <cryptic_> yes
May 04 18:08:25 <cryptic_> but the os version isn't there
May 04 18:08:27 <cryptic_> its for 2.0.1
May 04 18:09:08 <PatrickC> did you use Unified Diff Creator
May 04 18:09:09 <PatrickC> ?
May 04 18:09:14 <cryptic_> yes
May 04 18:39:30 <cryptic_> any ideas still
May 04 18:39:34 <cryptic_> need to submit a 2.0.1 patch
May 04 18:48:45 <dwc-> you don't need a diff creator
May 04 18:48:53 <dwc-> just take the patch you got from 2.1.0 and re-submit it and mark it as ok for 2.0.1
May 04 18:54:04 <cryptic_> ok
May 04 18:54:26 <cryptic_> now the problem is if you look at the patches at patches-webos-internals.org and you you try to update / submit it 2.0.1 isn't an option
May 04 18:58:56 <cryptic_> its cool im going to go to 2.1.0 right now
May 04 18:59:13 <cryptic_> i backed up what i needed
May 04 19:07:23 <dwc-> hmm, I guess you're right.  Well, you now know how to manually patch if you want to stick around
May 04 19:07:26 <dwc-> on 2.0
May 04 19:11:36 <cryptic_> :P
May 04 19:15:35 <cryptic_> dwc-, do you use a pre as a daily driver ?
May 04 19:31:59 <dwc-> pre2 on tmo
May 04 19:32:37 <cryptic_> nice
May 04 19:32:41 <cryptic_> dwc-, 2.2.4 ?
May 04 19:47:08 <dwc-> 2.1.0 actually
May 04 19:47:28 <dwc-> I disabled the update to 2.2.4 when it came out because I wanted to wait for patches, and then I keep forgetting
May 04 19:47:41 <PatrickC> lol
May 04 20:29:44 <cryptic_> thanks for reminding me i need to go disable the update
May 04 20:30:27 <cryptic_> well let me tell you 2.2.4 seems fine but when you try to click or tap stuff its glitches or it skips
May 04 20:46:09 <cryptic_> any good music app for the pre besides the default one ?
May 04 20:46:15 <cryptic_> the music player remix never works
May 04 21:16:19 <cryptic_> omg
May 04 21:16:21 <cryptic_> restore needed
May 04 21:17:03 <cryptic_> i thought object.db from /var/db/main contained all the text messages / history or the converstaion ?
May 04 21:18:00 <cryptic_> am i wrong ?
May 04 21:26:33 <zefyx> my sprintified pre2 is ruined
May 04 21:26:51 <PatrickC> zefyx: what happened?
May 04 21:26:53 <zefyx> it won't make a data connection and i dont have the old pre1 sprint comm board around anymore ;\
May 04 21:29:21 <zefyx> whoops, laptop died
May 04 21:31:04 <cryptic_> oh wow that sucks zefyx
May 04 21:31:12 <cryptic_> so a webosdoctor wo'nt fix
May 04 21:31:25 <zefyx> :(
May 04 21:31:35 <zefyx> so im stuck with a wifi only phone atm
May 04 21:31:47 <zefyx> have been since i bought it, really
May 04 21:31:59 <zefyx> data worked for a few days, stopped, started back, then stopped and never came back
May 04 21:33:51 <PatrickC> did you activate the coms board inside of a pre
May 04 21:33:52 <PatrickC> ?
May 04 21:33:55 <PatrickC> not a pre2
May 04 21:42:29 <zefyx> yeah
May 04 21:42:34 <zefyx> it came out of an activated pre
May 04 21:42:47 <zefyx> the one i upgraded from
May 04 21:43:14 <zefyx> i think i need a new, activated, pre comm board to fix it
May 04 23:49:27 <cryptic_> can you reboot palm from terminal ?
May 04 23:49:30 <cryptic_> or a terminal command ?
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