**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 17 02:59:58 2013 Oct 17 14:29:02 Hello. Is there a problem with the preware-servers? It seems I can't download any updates. The download message comes up but it doesn't actually download the updates. Oct 17 14:38:12 i don't have my touchpad on hand to test Oct 17 14:38:23 and i don't recall off teh top of my head if it logs or not Oct 17 14:38:54 can you pull off /var/log/messages and push it up for analysis? Oct 17 14:39:02 if it logs, that's where it should log to Oct 17 14:45:23 I'll see if I can access the file. Oct 17 14:47:16 if you've got the sdk installed, it should be trivial to pull it off. Oct 17 14:56:59 I don't know if I have any kind of sdk installed. I just plugged my Pre 3 in, thinking there'd be a "/var" folder but I don't see it. (Looking at the folder structure via Terminal at the moment). Oct 17 15:00:26 i'm going to be of limited help while i'm on this customer webex Oct 17 15:00:35 Okay, no problem. Oct 17 15:00:37 but while i'm waiting for them to connect, i'll try to dig up more instructions for you Oct 17 15:00:47 if you don't hear from me for a while, i haven't forgotten ;D Oct 17 15:00:59 No worries, I'm not in a hurry. Oct 17 15:01:46 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Portal:Accessing_Linux Oct 17 15:01:53 I was just wondering what was going on. It's strange that I can see that there are updates but that the updates themselves aren't downloaded.d Oct 17 15:02:07 well, we won't know until we look at the logs Oct 17 15:02:15 novaterm will get you a shell on it Oct 17 15:02:23 from there, it's standard faire linux more or less Oct 17 15:03:24 you can copy messages to the internal storage (if memory serves, it's /dev/mapper/store-media…but double check me on that) Oct 17 15:03:27 and then yank it off Oct 17 15:06:21 I'll try. Seems as if I did install the sdk at some point. :) Oct 17 15:07:04 it's helpful that webos is so open. we can actually get in and properly troubleshoot stuff with real tools. Oct 17 15:10:24 So what is store-media exactly? How do I copy something to it? Something like "cp /var/log/messages /dev/mapper/store-media"? Oct 17 15:10:43 yeah Oct 17 15:10:53 it's the sdcard partition more or less Oct 17 15:10:58 can't remember the exact path Oct 17 15:11:05 Okay, I'll try. Oct 17 15:13:22 And after the cp-command? Oct 17 15:17:47 once it's on the sd card, you should be able to pull it off in disk mode Oct 17 15:17:56 then pop it up somewhere and send me a link to dig through Oct 17 15:18:55 I think that cp-command broke something, possibly overwritng store-media, not sure. Luckily I had made a backup. Oct 17 15:19:34 well, i did say double check the path. :P Oct 17 15:19:47 Well, I don't know what path I should use. Oct 17 15:20:33 give me a second to get off this call. Oct 17 15:20:45 Sure. And thanks. Oct 17 15:22:03 The files I have in /dev/mapper/ are "control" and a bunch of files which all start with "store-": cryptodb, crptofilecache, filecache, log, media, mojodb, root, swap, update and var. Oct 17 16:03:43 HaDAk: I think by breaking the phone I fixed the problem with PreWare. :) Oct 17 16:04:32 I rebooted the device as the backup-file of store-media didn't work properly. I had to reinstall Preware but now it downloaded and installed the app I wanted to have. Oct 17 16:09:36 XD Oct 17 16:09:41 excellent Oct 17 16:09:47 sorry, i had some stuff come up Oct 17 16:09:52 i've gotta run now, but i'll be back in a bit. Oct 17 16:54:28 * HaDAk is back. Oct 17 16:54:52 so, you said that preware was able to install the app? Oct 17 16:54:57 you're good to go? Oct 17 16:55:16 I have a new problem now. I installed FreeTether and it works but it seems I can't change the network connection from "open" to anything else. It doesn't seem as the list reacts to clicks. Oct 17 16:55:20 HaDAk: Yep. Oct 17 16:55:32 Installing apps works again. Oct 17 16:55:44 Seems everything works. Oct 17 16:55:53 iirc, you can install lumberjack to watch the logs for freetether Oct 17 16:56:07 it'll just troll /var/log/messages and snipe out freetether stuff Oct 17 16:56:24 Interesting. Oct 17 17:06:07 I can open WiFi Prefs but then I can't change the option for "security" which is set to "Open". Lumberjack doesn't show any errors. The only messages are "About to activate scene wifiPrefs" and ""transition ended", which I assume is to show the prefs. But actually changing an option does nothing. Oct 17 17:11:29 right Oct 17 17:11:32 hum Oct 17 17:18:12 Not particularly intriguing to have a wide open WiFi Network for everyone around to join. :) Oct 17 17:18:38 yeah. it's hard for me to test it, too. i gave my pre2 to my sister last week >_> Oct 17 17:19:20 i mean, try to switch it, and send me messages to see if i can find anything, i guess Oct 17 17:20:14 It's fine. It will be a temporary solution only anyway. Oct 17 17:20:24 Thanks for the help. Oct 17 17:21:41 I guess I'll get rid soon of the Pre 3 to get something more up to date. Oct 17 17:24:08 what carrier? Oct 17 17:28:04 I'm in Germany, using "1&1". Oct 17 17:28:13 And I need to leave now. Oct 17 17:28:14 germany, so GSM Oct 17 17:28:19 * HaDAk waves Oct 17 17:28:43 Why, do you need a Pre 3? :) Oct 17 17:28:56 maybe so :) Oct 17 17:28:57 I'll stay in here, just in case, but will be afk now. Oct 17 17:29:14 i'd like to get my hands on a GSM pre3, yes. Oct 17 17:29:25 Maybe we can make a deal then. :) Oct 17 17:29:37 :) Oct 17 17:29:44 Anyhow, I need to leave. Oct 17 17:29:46 -gone- Oct 17 19:39:59 so, the "drive" exposed from the terminal on your mac is just the /media/internal partition Oct 17 19:40:03 which is why /var didn't exist Oct 17 19:40:12 ahh, right Oct 17 19:40:16 thanks for the memory jog, dwc- Oct 17 19:40:30 i couldn't remember the mount point Oct 17 19:40:31 so you should have put the ifles there instead of wherever /dev/mapper/store-media points to, which is part of LVM Oct 17 19:40:59 right. Oct 17 19:41:06 i couldn't remember. i tried to make that clear to him :) Oct 17 19:41:10 I've had some issues with freetether on my pre3 Oct 17 19:41:37 both that and the hotspot app don't seem to consistently set ip_forward Oct 17 19:42:15 i wonder why that is. Oct 17 19:42:37 dunno, but I haven't had the motivation to try to figure that out Oct 17 19:42:47 (but I do have a shell script that I run from a terminal that turns it on) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 18 02:59:58 2013