**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 12 02:59:58 2012 Jul 12 03:13:46 folk Jul 12 03:13:48 folks Jul 12 03:14:15 howdy baby huey Jul 12 03:32:24 Anyone know anything about DockPositionManager? Jul 12 03:40:37 Good morning Jul 12 03:42:13 it's not morning >.> Jul 12 03:42:20 it's rub-your-eyes late Jul 12 03:43:35 mornin Jul 12 03:45:49 What's happening? I'm at my night job Jul 12 03:46:06 digging through luna Jul 12 03:46:10 starting in main.cpp Jul 12 03:47:48 So I have another question. I do not have a TouchPad, and I'm going to be going on a long car trip soon so I have some upcoming free time. I know both C/C++ and JavaScript quite well, and I normally run Linux (either Xubuntu or Gentoo). Is there anything I can help with? Jul 12 03:48:14 absolutely Jul 12 03:48:18 good lord yes. :) Jul 12 03:48:48 Huge webOS fan, and I've poked around with 1.4.5 on my Pre Plus a bit, so I'm somewhat familiar with the internal workings of the old version. Jul 12 03:49:03 Written an app or two from scratch, but not using the PDK. Jul 12 03:49:10 imma PM you. Jul 12 03:49:20 And I run Debian in a chroot on it. Jul 12 03:53:55 I need to get deb or ubuntu or something on my pre3 just to do it Jul 12 03:54:42 Hadak where in aa are you? I'm over at the Heidelberg on main Jul 12 03:55:22 i'm down off washtenaw, at golfside. i work less than a block from where you're at -- barracuda networks Jul 12 03:55:38 eblade-synergy: Piece of cake with a Pre Plus, provided you download the old X.Org app instead of the new ones (which don't seem to work since they rely on IPv6 support). Jul 12 03:58:39 I work here on wed nights hadak. When I first moved to this side of the state I lived at wash and golfside Jul 12 03:59:59 oh, in spicetree? Jul 12 04:00:18 It was.. Camelot I think Jul 12 04:00:36 Okay, so HaDAk has informed me that it would be helpful to have the structure of things documented a bit better. Anyone opposed to Doxygen-style comment blocks so it can be autogenerated rather than having to be manually constructed and revised? Jul 12 04:01:52 oh, nice. Jul 12 04:02:18 Wow my android using friend just showed me the new chrome on ICS . . Can you say wow that looks familiar? Jul 12 04:02:48 eblade-synergy: Try Chromium on Debian on webOS sometime. :) Jul 12 04:02:53 eblade-synergy: i have a nexus. i've been using chrome for a long time. it's sexy. Jul 12 04:03:32 Hadak its a big improvement on our card stacking Jul 12 04:03:55 Doxygen comment examples for those who are unfamiliar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javadoc Jul 12 04:04:45 Hmm. I'm a little annoyed that while I was working my google voice sync task apparently stopped running. Never happens when I'm in a place I can debug Jul 12 04:06:12 eblade-synergy: hell yeah it is. unfortunately, our browser is built on web technologies...i don't know if we could even make a chrome tab style happen Jul 12 04:06:18 I'll never say no to improved documentation, tyrok Jul 12 04:07:13 As long as the format's okay so I'm not making more work for someone to redo it, I'd be happy to help with that. :) Jul 12 04:08:54 tyrok: i don't follow this documentation O_o Jul 12 04:09:01 could just be that im' tired Jul 12 04:10:04 i see the example, and it's neat that it tells you what the function does. i think that would be an excellent supplement....but i think it would also be really helpful to know how the different pieces of Luna interact Jul 12 04:11:21 HaDAk: Yep. Once you have that info, you can generate call graph trees and/or dependency trees like http://www-scf.usc.edu/~peterchd/doxygen/ Jul 12 04:11:33 heyho peeps Jul 12 04:11:45 doxygen rocks Jul 12 04:11:50 oh, yeah. that's a bit more helpful. is there a way to cross reference that graph and make it more verbose? Jul 12 04:12:07 or add notes to nodes? Jul 12 04:13:12 tyrok: I'd support merging pull requests that contain correct doxygen comments and no functional changes. Jul 12 04:13:32 i'll second that. Jul 12 04:13:48 Honestly I'm more familiar with SVN and do not know enough to git to know how to do that. Jul 12 04:13:54 I have no idea what I'm looking at but I'll third it Jul 12 04:14:23 HaDAk: I don't know re: verbosity, but see also: http://rsync.samba.org/doxygen/head/graph_legend.html Jul 12 04:15:06 hum. ok. Jul 12 04:15:24 tyrok: you make the changes, and get permission to put it back in the repo. Jul 12 04:15:30 Other examples: http://xerces.apache.org/xerces-c/apiDocs-3/classes.html Jul 12 04:16:16 HaDAk: Right, but I don't know which branches would need to be merged or how to do that. I'm sure I could manage one branch. Jul 12 04:16:22 tyrok: read the github docs - they have good introductions on how to use git to clone repos, make changes and then submit pull requests. Jul 12 04:16:37 Sounds good. Jul 12 04:17:05 tyrok: if you do the work of commenting and read the docs, I can guarantee that you will get whatever assistance you need to get it merged. Jul 12 04:17:12 Another Doxygen example: http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/api/html/index.html Jul 12 04:17:27 in my book, people who write documentation always go to the head of the queue. Jul 12 04:21:38 Well, I'll see what I can do. I'm assuming you'd rather have documentation committed (whatever the corresponding non-SVN term is) back to the repo in parts as I do it rather than massive commits with large time delays between? Jul 12 04:22:09 as you come up with it works for me. Jul 12 04:22:15 lets me process it in small chunks :) Jul 12 04:22:43 I figure that way chunks are useful right away and it doesn't get held up by time delays on my end. Jul 12 04:22:47 eblade-synergy: i wonder if tyrok can help with that feature we were discussing last night Jul 12 04:23:23 I don't have a lot of *consistent* time. It's going to be fairly spotty. Jul 12 04:23:44 My language profile, for anyone interested: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/User:Tyrok1 Jul 12 04:23:48 this *may* be something relatively easy to implement using existing code Jul 12 04:25:26 tyrok: the goal is to implement a widget view, like the one in this screenshot: http://www.webosnation.com/sites/webosnation.com/files/resource_images/j/jose-b.jpg Jul 12 04:25:46 so far, all i've figured out how to do is move the cards down Jul 12 04:25:54 to make room for the widgets Jul 12 04:26:28 "The documentation for this class was generated from the following file:" Jul 12 04:26:37 is that file stripped of the doxygen stuff? Jul 12 04:26:47 HaDAk: I'm assuming that ad is not an old prerelease official ad, correct? Like, they haven't tried implementing this? Jul 12 04:27:06 dukiedrew: Where you seeing that? Jul 12 04:27:17 http://xerces.apache.org/xerces-c/apiDocs-3/classSAXException.html Jul 12 04:27:20 at the very bottom Jul 12 04:27:29 tyrok: i don't know who made it. i'm 99.99% sure it's NOT official palm/hp material. as far as i can tell, it's only a wish list type ad. Jul 12 04:28:34 dukiedrew: Shouldn't be. It may be pulling that from the .cpp files (I'm not familiar with that project). Jul 12 04:28:55 ah Jul 12 04:29:00 so the doxygen info is in the header files? Jul 12 04:29:30 dukiedrew: That *is* a header file that it points to. The class methods are prototypes. Jul 12 04:29:45 HaDAk: Without having a thorough grasp on the code just yet, I have no idea how simple/possible that is. Jul 12 04:30:04 HaDAk: First step would be documenting it so I have an idea of how everything's structured. Jul 12 04:30:06 tyrok: that's the same problem i've run in to, ironically. Jul 12 04:30:12 Someone just pushed 484 new commits to the Isis WebKit upstream branch. Nice. Jul 12 04:30:16 and now you understand the need for the documentation ^^ Jul 12 04:30:21 hmm Jul 12 04:30:24 it must be hidden Jul 12 04:30:29 as the lines skip in that .hpp file Jul 12 04:30:37 eblade-synergy: i compiled that at work today. as soon as i entered a URL, it sigfaulted Jul 12 04:30:41 segfaulted* Jul 12 04:30:42 HaDAk: Oh, I could see that by seeing the almost total lack of comments in the bits of code I've seen. :) Jul 12 04:31:12 Any way to test WOCE's Luna on x86_64, or do you have to have a Touchpad (or similar ARM device) to install it on? Jul 12 04:32:02 the only way i've been able to get it to run is by pushing it to my touchpad Jul 12 04:32:12 i'm sure it's possible to get it to compile for the emulator though Jul 12 04:32:23 Tyrok our build system currently builds an arm version, but it looks like there is support for building it for either x86 touchpad emulator, or possibly even to run in linux itself, but I'm not real sure how the build works to adjust that Jul 12 04:32:29 i don't know if you can get it running on straight linux, but i'd be interested in trying it if you can Jul 12 04:32:48 *facepalm* That new, eh? Jul 12 04:32:51 eblade-synergy: i was reading through the source, and it looks like there's even references to x86X64 Jul 12 04:33:02 but do you have all the library builds? Jul 12 04:33:04 Apparently I learned of it quicker than I thought. Jul 12 04:33:11 i don't know if all the source has been pushed Jul 12 04:33:17 ie for some of the Palm libraries it uses Jul 12 04:33:26 tyrok: it's about two weeks old Jul 12 04:33:33 Run virtualbox for linux in my windows virtualbox, so I can emulate the touchpad in linux in windows lol Jul 12 04:33:47 Inwebosception Jul 12 04:34:00 Bwaaaaaaaaam Jul 12 04:34:08 eblade-synergy: i'm in windows, i've got kubuntu in a vm going right now (compiling isis), and i've got a touchpad emulator going there Jul 12 04:34:16 and a touchpad on my desk Jul 12 04:34:28 HaDAk: Yeah. I had to have read about it about the same day it came out, then. I've been tracking the blog for a while. I figured by now someone smarter than me would have probably beat me to trying it. :) Jul 12 04:34:31 i wish i had a second touchpad :( Jul 12 04:34:53 tyrok: smarter, maybe. smarter AND knows c++? heh. Jul 12 04:35:04 Hadak was that the current master branch thatsegfaulted or the upstream Jul 12 04:35:09 HaDAk: O/T - Have you tried running KDE as a Windows shell? It's rather interesting. Jul 12 04:35:34 eblade-synergy: i pulled it from github.com/isis-project around lunchtime Jul 12 04:35:58 tyrok: i had it installed in windows, but only to use some apps. i'd love to replace explorer with the shell, but last time i checked you weren't able to. Jul 12 04:37:00 Isis from a few weeks ago works fine on my vbox Jul 12 04:37:06 eblade-synergy: i'm building that same code now Jul 12 04:37:20 rwhitby: Ah, just reread your previous comment. I thought you meant I needed to merge branches of other peoples', then comment them. Hence the confusion. :) Jul 12 04:37:47 eblade, is it suspected that isis would function differently on ARM vs ubuntu? Jul 12 04:37:52 ~ugt Jul 12 04:37:52 from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Jul 12 04:37:53 aside from speed Jul 12 04:38:00 for HaDAk Jul 12 04:38:01 So the branch I should work on commenting would be master or one of the others? Jul 12 04:38:20 what are you wanting to comment on tyrok? Jul 12 04:38:48 ka6sox: Documenting code with Doxygen-style comments. No functional changes yet - just documentation. Jul 12 04:38:57 Which, so far as I've seen, is severely lacking. Jul 12 04:39:32 severely. Jul 12 04:39:41 although, hey. if you wanna fix the loads of broken stuff, i wouldn't be opposed. Jul 12 04:39:43 tyrok: master would be fine, since you're not changing any code Jul 12 04:39:50 K Jul 12 04:40:36 is it silly that i'm so excited for something as stupid as documentation? :P Jul 12 04:40:37 This is a Good Thing(tm) Jul 12 04:40:45 HaDAk, no Jul 12 04:40:49 its not silly Jul 12 04:41:20 HaDAk: Nope. It's incredibly handy if done right, and a horrible mess if done wrong. Jul 12 04:41:23 I can't wait for the full source, so we can try to hack this thing on to my raspberry pi. Jul 12 04:41:31 tyrok: can i make a feature request? do it right. :) Jul 12 04:41:33 9yrs ago I came to nslu2-linux.org to edit some wiki pages and help with whatever I could. Jul 12 04:41:47 HaDAk: :) Jul 12 04:42:09 and 9yrs later...here I am...still editing wiki pages :D Jul 12 04:42:24 eblade-synergy: ever used dd-wrt? Jul 12 04:44:25 I've got a pair of wrt 54gs that had it, but not currently using it Jul 12 04:44:41 so has feature enabling/disabling been decided? Jul 12 04:44:45 will that be with "Tweaks"? Jul 12 04:45:13 I think shifty is on it Jul 12 04:45:48 hmm, ok Jul 12 04:46:12 dukiedrew, ya, using tweaks Jul 12 04:46:24 adding a new panel for this. Jul 12 04:46:27 eblade-synergy: i happen to be friends with one of the original dd-wrt devs. could arrange a meet'n'greet one of these days, if you're interested Jul 12 04:46:43 eblade-synergy: you could also call him a douchebag for harassing me about webos this morning. Jul 12 04:47:03 I think we should debate what to call a setting to toggle left-right swipes, since Luna already uses the setting for left-right swipes to determine possible availability Jul 12 04:47:07 dukiedrew: feature enableing/disableing? Jul 12 04:47:30 ...for upswipes Jul 12 04:47:40 Not sure if the last part of that message made it Jul 12 04:47:50 huh? Jul 12 04:48:01 uses L/R swipes for determing upswipes? Jul 12 04:48:07 ooh b/c of the various orientations Jul 12 04:48:27 No the phones had a setting to turn on/off left-right gestures Jul 12 04:48:28 2 landscape and 2 portrait? Jul 12 04:48:47 They used that same setting on touchpad for turning on/off upswipe Jul 12 04:48:50 HaDAk yeah...not everyone would want everything Jul 12 04:49:08 fair enough. couldn't it just be merged into AIO settings? Jul 12 04:49:20 well, i think others are deciding th is Jul 12 04:49:26 and i'll just go with whatever is decided Jul 12 04:49:27 aiosettings calls the real panels Jul 12 04:49:36 this would actually do the combining Jul 12 04:49:44 And its called something totally weird like leftrightuiswipes or something like that.. But is used for up Jul 12 04:49:54 is this something that'd be good for a wiki page? Jul 12 04:49:59 holy shit. it's 1am. Jul 12 04:50:02 ie how to properly format a change/feature? Jul 12 04:50:10 such that it'll fit nicely into tweaks Jul 12 04:50:30 ie expected coding practices Jul 12 04:51:04 So I think we should name the preference for turning on left-right something like.. Upswipegesture . Just to confuse things more ;-) Jul 12 04:51:50 dukiedrew, I am struggling with that as we speak Jul 12 04:51:59 oh, solid Jul 12 04:52:02 but yes, it does warrant a wikipage for this kind of thing. Jul 12 04:52:20 haven't heard from tyrok in a bit. i wonder if he's nose deep in .cpp and .h right now, lol Jul 12 04:52:28 probably Jul 12 04:53:08 dukiedrew, eblade-synergy shifty was doing some "tweaks" to tweaks 3.0, removing the last of the mojo and adding the panel Jul 12 04:53:27 I really hate when the screen dims, and I swipe and it goes to the opposite side of the screen Jul 12 04:53:41 HaDAk: Heh...not yet. Got a few other tasks to finish up first. Jul 12 04:53:44 I think that it was discussed that tweaks could use a json entry(ies) in a sqlite db for holding the prefs and then inject them to the service directly Jul 12 04:54:09 but eblade-synergy knows this best. Jul 12 04:54:29 eblade you mean after you unlock? Jul 12 04:54:45 or if it hasn't locked and then the screen turns active Jul 12 04:54:56 it's like it just defaults to a standard orientation? Jul 12 04:54:56 When it hasn't locked Jul 12 04:55:06 eblade-synergy, if you fix that one thing my wife will love you... Jul 12 04:55:14 it annoys her when she is reading with the TP. Jul 12 04:55:31 Just dimmed state. I don't know, I always swipe , and it goes to the wrong side. Jul 12 04:55:34 I suppose I could dive into powerd Jul 12 04:55:47 odd Jul 12 04:56:08 I know its not just mine, all 3 of them do it Jul 12 04:56:17 Apparently ka6 too Jul 12 04:56:17 eblade-synergy: is your patch in preware? Jul 12 04:56:41 The messaging patch? Jul 12 04:56:41 alright, time for bed, gnite Jul 12 04:56:43 all of mine do it Jul 12 04:56:48 nite dukie Jul 12 04:56:56 the swiping patch....wait, what messaging patch? did you fix logins? Jul 12 04:57:10 logins? Jul 12 04:57:13 What's broken about logins? Jul 12 04:57:21 logins shouldn't be affected at all.... Jul 12 04:57:27 My left-right is on my github Jul 12 04:57:28 and mine deesn't have htat issue Jul 12 04:57:30 after building my own luna, none of my accounts will log in Jul 12 04:57:50 HaDAk, please revert to stock and see if that works again.. Jul 12 04:58:00 because nobody else is reporting that one. Jul 12 04:58:05 General consensus, not luna's fault Jul 12 04:58:32 hmm. Jul 12 04:58:38 I patched messaging so it doesn't beep incessantly while you are in irc on messaging Jul 12 04:58:42 it happened literally the instant i put new luna on there. Jul 12 04:58:50 oh. i don't have irc in messaging. Jul 12 04:58:54 although, that would be nice. Jul 12 04:59:11 anyone have the stock luna app i can use to throw on my tp? Jul 12 04:59:20 or, can it be pulled from the doctor? Jul 12 04:59:31 It is but the messaging app is missing nice features like being able to see who's in a chat Jul 12 04:59:52 HaDAk, it can be pulled from teh doctor Jul 12 05:00:02 just gotta find the dr now. Jul 12 05:00:06 Hadak, I believe that the build system has a copy of it in there, somewhere or other Jul 12 05:00:15 it should be in teh doctors directory of woce-build Jul 12 05:00:22 unless you have a /srv setup Jul 12 05:02:17 oh, no kiddin. you're right. Jul 12 05:02:48 do you know the path within the doctor? Jul 12 05:03:10 it should be "sploaded" someplace...its int eh makefile iirc Jul 12 05:03:24 i see a webos tar file Jul 12 05:03:28 i'm guessing it's in there Jul 12 05:03:28 ya, in there Jul 12 05:03:49 tar -tz Jul 12 05:04:01 nova-cust-image-topaz.rootfs.tar.gz Jul 12 05:04:08 yep Jul 12 05:04:10 in there Jul 12 05:04:13 sounds like a filesystem tarball Jul 12 05:04:17 it is Jul 12 05:05:46 wat Jul 12 05:05:51 i don't see lunasysmgr in /usr/bin Jul 12 05:07:53 oh. phew. Jul 12 05:08:01 caps are at the top. it's Luna not luna Jul 12 05:10:20 ayup Jul 12 05:12:33 i like the part when you extract a tar to a folder, and don't create a subdirectory for the contents. Jul 12 05:12:36 * HaDAk facepalms Jul 12 05:16:51 * eblade-synergy yawns Jul 12 05:17:07 ayup Jul 12 05:18:01 * ka6sox is glad he isn't hte only one Jul 12 05:18:30 HaDAk, I had a client untar a ARM rootfs on his x86 desktop in / on time... Jul 12 05:19:00 ouch. Jul 12 05:19:11 it all looked good... Jul 12 05:19:14 a good friend of mine accidentally chmod -r 'd all of /etc once. Jul 12 05:19:35 till I ran file on it... Jul 12 05:19:47 uh. Jul 12 05:19:52 maybe it's not luna after all Jul 12 05:19:55 what could it be then? Jul 12 05:20:05 * ka6sox closes out the ticket... Jul 12 05:20:12 i'm still getting "unknown error" Jul 12 05:20:25 HaDAk, try impostah Jul 12 05:20:33 look into that and see if things work there at all. Jul 12 05:20:45 or just look wonky Jul 12 05:21:57 hm. what am i looking for? Jul 12 05:22:17 hang on now Jul 12 05:22:22 accounts, AIM, show account Jul 12 05:22:34 Service Error (getAccountInfo) Jul 12 05:22:52 Permission denied! com.palm.configurator is not specified in template com.palm.aol readPermissions Jul 12 05:23:17 so. do we have anything to fsck this? Jul 12 05:23:49 see if /boot has fsck Jul 12 05:24:05 * ka6sox can't rembmer Jul 12 05:24:09 I think it does Jul 12 05:24:13 Fsck it Jul 12 05:24:14 its an ext3 fs Jul 12 05:24:21 quite Jul 12 05:24:24 :) Jul 12 05:24:45 nothing Jul 12 05:24:57 fsck is in /sbin though Jul 12 05:25:42 ya nkow Jul 12 05:25:55 i wonder if this has something to do with tarring /media/internal before compiling luna Jul 12 05:29:55 cryptofs is located on /media/internal Jul 12 05:30:09 i betcha that's probably what happened. Jul 12 05:30:14 i just used tailor to fsck it. Jul 12 05:30:27 good ole tailor Jul 12 05:31:48 unfortunately, that did NOT fix the issue. Jul 12 05:37:01 yeah. nothing is working for this. Jul 12 05:38:13 uh oh... Jul 12 05:38:23 Is com.palm.configurator specified in template com.palm.aol repercussions? Jul 12 05:38:27 i refuse to reimage this. i'd rather understand it. Jul 12 05:38:35 *readpermissions Jul 12 05:38:55 eblade-synergy: you sound like the error message. unfortunately, i neither understand the error message, or what you're asking. Jul 12 05:39:09 I believe the templates are in /etc/palm/public Jul 12 05:40:53 i don't see an /etc/palm/public Jul 12 05:41:14 Maybe /usr/palm/public Jul 12 05:41:41 ok, that works. there's an accounts folder. Jul 12 05:41:47 I don't have a terminal on this touchpad.its also freezing in here Jul 12 05:43:03 http://pastebin.ca/2169870 Jul 12 05:47:35 does that look right eblade-synergy Jul 12 05:50:21 Seems normal to me, I don't know if configurator is supposed to be in there or not Jul 12 05:50:46 folks Jul 12 05:51:11 ugh. i'll mess with it tomorrow. i have to be at work in like 7 hours. Jul 12 05:51:24 i'm going to get jack shit for sleep again tonight, and i was already falling asleep at work. Jul 12 05:51:27 that's called dedication : P Jul 12 05:51:32 To avoid weird problems like that, I just gave com.palm.* read/write heh Jul 12 05:51:47 security ftw. Jul 12 05:52:22 ok. naptime. Jul 12 05:52:24 cya later. Jul 12 05:52:52 Yay almost ready to head home then I can sleep. Was up coding till 6am got up at noon Jul 12 05:53:42 I'll probably sit down and start coding instead though. Jul 12 05:55:16 ugh.... Jul 12 05:55:23 hopefully somethign FUN... Jul 12 06:11:49 Ok leaving. Back from home in a while Jul 12 08:00:31 hmm. i just heard my developer pad whining it's low battery tone. rare, indeed, since it's always usb connected. i guess my usb isn't providing proper power. Jul 12 08:00:52 so i grabbed it and put it on the touchstone, and it immediately reset to the battery charge icon. ugh. Jul 12 08:01:33 my computer was also chirping what might've been low voltage warnings Jul 12 08:03:44 hmmm. i wonder if / how well we can pull off the ios style split keyboard Jul 12 12:44:24 morning all Jul 12 13:10:14 good lord, hotmail calendar has to me the single most broken thing on the internet.. Jul 12 13:19:28 the most broken? no, but close! Jul 12 13:21:48 must.... Jul 12 13:21:51 get.... Jul 12 13:21:56 coffee... Jul 12 13:25:49 * ShiftyAxel strokes his coffee mug Jul 12 13:25:54 precioouusssss... Jul 12 13:38:22 Goin Hawaiian today... Jul 12 13:43:17 The hula girl is still asleep however...too early for them I guess. Jul 12 14:23:43 gah, i've discovered something i really don't like very much about touch events Jul 12 14:23:52 mapping screen coordinates is no fun Jul 12 14:31:46 ha ha ha...ya...I had that issue with my first TS project too. Jul 12 14:37:37 seems to be fixed now, though HostBase::instance()->m_trans.map() is useless Jul 12 14:42:14 oh yeah, i got ssh working in the end. we should reccommend it on the wiki- it's a far nicer way of operating Jul 12 14:45:01 Good Plan(tm) Jul 12 14:56:18 are you using the vbox shared directories thing or rsyncing? Jul 12 14:58:16 shared directory for the source, then i ssh/scp into the TP from inside the VM Jul 12 14:58:34 wahey, fixed card reordering in luna-touch Jul 12 15:01:32 ah, good plan Jul 12 15:01:46 bbl Jul 12 15:01:56 laters Jul 12 15:06:11 ich bin genius, luna-touch is now done. i'll start writing awesome multitouch stuff later. Jul 12 15:06:20 for now, time to see if i can't get tweaks going Jul 12 15:37:13 yikes, the SDK download is taking forever... Jul 12 17:51:29 tweaks! Jul 12 18:02:27 ka6sox: it's coming along nicely Jul 12 18:02:36 i've got it setting preferences now Jul 12 18:02:43 even better! Jul 12 18:02:52 but am still having issue with that problem i asked EricBlade about yesterday Jul 12 18:02:57 because i forgot his answer Jul 12 18:03:01 just don't call it tweakah Jul 12 18:03:17 haha, don't worry about that ;D Jul 12 18:15:52 how very annoying Jul 12 18:16:05 it insists on taking my arguments as string literals instead of variables Jul 12 18:16:20 so now i have a preference on my touchpad called 'inPref' Jul 12 18:16:25 and one called '$inPref' Jul 12 18:16:28 fml Jul 12 18:18:24 ka6sox: wahey, it works Jul 12 18:18:50 testing with fluid-gestures, i'm now toggling between mine and EricBlade's engines from Tweaks :D Jul 12 18:19:04 sweet! Jul 12 18:20:27 * ShiftyAxel feels like a programming god Jul 12 18:20:57 he he Jul 12 18:21:30 ShiftyAxel, probably a good time to issue a pull request for sconix to look @ your "tweak" Jul 12 18:23:59 ka6sox: sounds like a good plan, though there are still a couple of small modifications needed Jul 12 18:24:21 i disabled the 'two pane' approach for now because the implimentation needs serious tweaking before it'll work Jul 12 18:24:25 kk...let me know when you issue the pull request. Jul 12 18:24:38 so i need to hide the buttons or something Jul 12 18:24:41 cool, will do Jul 12 18:24:43 ah Jul 12 18:25:46 I kind of think that we won't see an approval till next week sometime...but we should at least get it into testing mode so that we can get the gestures features into production Jul 12 18:27:49 yeah, sounds like a plan Jul 12 18:27:55 dinnertime, back in a bit Jul 12 18:28:23 i've committed all my current changes to tweaks 3.0 to my github, if you want to take a peek Jul 12 18:29:44 are you building an ipk for it? Jul 12 18:29:46 I am away from my computer until Monday, so at least anything requiring my attention will go for next week Jul 12 18:30:03 sconix, thought so... Jul 12 18:30:11 ka6sox: the latest one's on there Jul 12 18:30:36 ShiftyAxel, great...we can test then... Jul 12 18:32:40 ka6sox: yeah, go for it Jul 12 18:33:13 there's a luna.json in the examples folder that illustrates how pref service entries work Jul 12 18:33:42 sconix, ShiftyAxel can I pull this into alpha testing on preware? Jul 12 18:33:46 basically it checks for the 'prefserv' variable, and if it exists then it calls 'setPreference' with prefserv as the preference name Jul 12 18:34:02 ka6sox: I don't have anything against that Jul 12 18:34:04 ka6sox: let me quickly kill the bottom-bar, it's causing graphical issues on first use Jul 12 18:34:50 sconix, thanks Jul 12 18:34:57 ShiftyAxel, let me know when to pull Jul 12 18:36:15 okay, pull away Jul 12 18:45:17 ka6sox: I'm guessing a changelog doesnt matter a hell of a lot for a testing release? Jul 12 18:46:25 I'll mod the changelog Jul 12 18:46:33 unless you can for me please. Jul 12 18:46:58 yeah, sure, i'll update it Jul 12 18:47:05 un momento por favor Jul 12 18:52:11 ka6sox: okey doke, done. tweaks now has a 3.0.0b changelog detailing the removal of Mojo & the base for preference services Jul 12 18:52:35 is it still single pane with only system prefs now? Jul 12 18:52:53 it's the same as the previous released version, just with a 'Luna' entry Jul 12 18:53:02 got it Jul 12 18:53:03 ty Jul 12 18:53:07 no worries :) Jul 12 18:54:12 I'm not sure if I have sufficient rights to the tweaks repo... Jul 12 18:54:43 mmm.... pull requests... Jul 12 18:55:17 more importantly, mmm... pull requests with pdk fixs.... Jul 12 18:55:48 halfhalo: did you make progress with that? :o Jul 12 18:56:11 if by progress you mean have a fix in woce-build as of now? yes. Jul 12 18:56:26 or build-support. Jul 12 18:56:30 one of the two. Jul 12 18:56:34 :D Jul 12 18:56:49 * ShiftyAxel hands halfhalo a 'winner' plaque Jul 12 18:57:19 build-support Jul 12 18:57:24 now he can hide... Jul 12 18:59:58 halfhalo: :D:D:D Jul 12 19:00:13 everything's coming together rather nicely Jul 12 19:00:33 * ShiftyAxel gnaws on a cigar, hannibal style... Jul 12 19:01:03 halfhalo: now to update woce-build to use the new build-support (and make it known we don't nuke staging stuff when we think we might, half due to expecting that stuff to never change and half because if I get it wrong it's a huge pain to rebuild all the things) Jul 12 19:01:21 errr I can do that, I just mean that needs to be done still :3 Jul 12 19:07:56 folks Jul 12 19:08:01 bhuey Jul 12 19:08:07 hey Jul 12 19:09:09