**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 13 02:59:59 2012 Jul 13 03:03:43 I swear I'm going to go fedora full time Jul 13 03:04:08 I only use ubuntu to keep "honest" with you folk Jul 13 03:04:39 but ubuntu breaks so often and now isn't even booting on my machine Jul 13 03:05:08 can't even get to grub o.o Jul 13 03:07:32 I should change my name to EarthenWare because that's what wirc always wants to Change my name to Jul 13 03:07:57 LarrySteeze|TP, use vagrant Jul 13 03:08:09 on fedora Jul 13 03:08:25 I'm just going to use fedora. No need for vagrant Jul 13 03:08:50 it's just an extra step Jul 13 03:09:38 I've only been using ubuntu to be consistent with everyone else, but injury seems to hate my machine (no issues on my other machines) Jul 13 03:10:17 ubuntu, not injury Jul 13 03:53:06 anyone not particularly busy, who happens to have all the webOS code that's been released, care to search to see where teh websocket implementation is? i'd like to see if i can figure out where it's falling down and breaking at .. but i'm stuck doing regular job stuff at this time Jul 13 04:49:25 it's not in Luna, Luna only has a reference to remote sockets for controlling the CES 2009 demonstration Jul 13 04:50:04 what are you looking for? Jul 13 04:50:14 trying to figure out why websockets crash luna Jul 13 04:50:57 ask dkirker :D Jul 13 04:51:11 dkirker: why do websockets crash luna Jul 13 04:51:26 Because you are trying to use them? :P Jul 13 04:51:41 heh Jul 13 04:51:42 is that you == me, or you == generic you Jul 13 04:51:52 you equals EricBlade1 :P Jul 13 04:51:55 heh Jul 13 04:51:56 :'( Jul 13 04:52:03 ok! I'll stop with the snarkiness Jul 13 04:52:05 did anyone ever use them? Jul 13 04:52:08 I'm not sure... Jul 13 04:52:21 oh, i brought that on myself lol Jul 13 04:52:35 They may have worked initially Jul 13 04:52:46 they "work" .. but something in them causes crash Jul 13 04:52:53 hmmm Jul 13 04:53:03 maybe when they switched to the Qt base? Jul 13 04:53:04 i was successfully connected for about 6 hours, when all of a sudden BAM luna restart. Jul 13 04:53:31 When I tried to reconnect, it was a crash. about 5 minutes later, it started working again. I think it might have been the remote server was resetting Jul 13 04:53:38 but if I force the connection to drop, i can't repeat it Jul 13 04:57:04 folks Jul 13 04:57:18 bhuey Jul 13 04:58:10 ka6sox: i don't think websockets are supported before 3.0.2 or so Jul 13 04:58:29 ah, okay Jul 13 05:03:23 dkirker: care to lay any guesses as to if it's in BrowserServer, BrowserAdapter, or webkit ? Jul 13 05:03:37 (which one, not simply a yes/no question) Jul 13 05:03:40 probably webkit Jul 13 05:03:49 should be webkit Jul 13 05:04:08 webcore, with half of it being in the platform directory Jul 13 05:09:43 Is there a secondary source for palm.cdnetworks.net? Jul 13 05:10:00 what is that? Jul 13 05:10:34 It's in the make Jul 13 05:11:33 what do you need? Jul 13 05:11:36 what bit? Jul 13 05:12:39 It'd failing to resolve the domain when trying to grsb the webosdoctor jar Jul 13 05:22:36 oh, sorry Jul 13 05:22:41 thats not an option for us Jul 13 05:40:45 EricBlade1, what do you need to paw thru the code looking for? Jul 13 05:40:50 references to websockets? Jul 13 05:43:02 ka6sox: yeah that's what i was going to go digging for Jul 13 06:07:24 ka6sox: ok, can you tell me who I can talk to about woce-build failing to build? Jul 13 06:08:13 ask the channel...someone will help... Jul 13 06:08:19 we all know our bits. Jul 13 06:08:45 but first a question Jul 13 06:08:51 are you using woce-be? Jul 13 06:09:21 Im attempting the setup on the wiki Jul 13 06:10:26 what page? Jul 13 06:10:40 sorry I just want to be sure we are readin off the same music Jul 13 06:10:52 WOCE_build_Instructions Jul 13 06:13:02 scoutcamper, since we have woce-be we should redirect to using that Jul 13 06:13:21 since it provides the correct env. Jul 13 06:13:40 poR, what is failing Jul 13 06:13:44 please paste the error Jul 13 06:13:54 and what distro are you using? Jul 13 06:14:36 ka6sox, fixed Jul 13 06:15:03 but we don't want to lose that previous page either Jul 13 06:15:17 just because its good old reference Jul 13 06:15:23 ka6sox, look at the page Jul 13 06:16:09 got it Jul 13 06:16:19 make it BIGGER PLEASE Jul 13 06:17:05 Italics are nice Jul 13 06:17:20 poR thanks for pointing that out. Jul 13 06:17:56 ka6sox, fixed Jul 13 06:18:47 poR, what error are you seeing? Jul 13 06:19:51 pastebin.com/S7xvY7rm Jul 13 06:20:41 dns failure..not a build error Jul 13 06:21:43 It's not just you! http://palm.cdnetworks.net looks down from here. Jul 13 06:21:51 so its a net failure Jul 13 06:21:53 me as well Jul 13 06:22:12 and poR, we can't distribute Doctors... Jul 13 06:22:16 so we have no alternatives Jul 13 06:22:55 this should probably fix itself overnight Jul 13 06:22:59 (overnight here that is) Jul 13 06:23:07 O [U:a:S:b:h] Jul 13 06:23:13 [#webos-ports]Ok Jul 13 06:23:24 Will try tomorrow night. Thsnks for your help. Jul 13 06:23:32 sorry we can't be of more help Jul 13 06:23:46 but please use woce-be for your builds as it provides a consistent build env Jul 13 06:24:19 will do Jul 13 07:03:27 EricBlade1, do you still need that information about websockets? Jul 13 07:03:47 i can dig it up shortly Jul 13 07:04:01 unless you've already obtained it Jul 13 07:05:45 no, I was about to try my search foo Jul 13 07:05:49 (on the sources) Jul 13 12:02:36 morning all Jul 13 13:49:49 Morning Shifty Jul 13 13:59:59 ka6sox: morning ka6sox Jul 13 14:00:16 i've done a bit more work on tweaks, but there's a snag Jul 13 14:00:42 the PalmService stuff that needs to be called for stuff like the screen brightness, background etc, is all on the private bus Jul 13 14:00:58 so tweaks can't call it, because it's not in the com.palm. namespace Jul 13 14:03:03 so I guess we need a way to cross over between those 2 spaces. Jul 13 14:03:33 indeed, or just package it as com.palm.tweaks, but that doesn't seem… right somehow Jul 13 14:04:26 can you make a new public service in the com.palm room where apps can send requests on the internal bus? that app could then verify if the app has the 'rights' to do so... Jul 13 14:04:51 basically: a portal for communicating on the internal bus Jul 13 14:06:00 myself i don't have the knowledge to do that i don't think Jul 13 14:06:26 on the upside, i know that the commands run by tweaks will definately work Jul 13 14:07:12 so we can probably use this version for testing and add the functionality as we overcome that roadblock Jul 13 14:19:20 Can anybody tell me where to get the update code for the PDK fix (http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/3) to merge into my community edition branch? Jul 13 14:19:31 I can't seem to find a branch that has it Jul 13 14:24:55 Andolamin: it looks like build-support has been updated on the woce github Jul 13 14:25:11 but it also seems to point to a nonexistent build-support.tgz... Jul 13 14:25:20 dtzWill: are you about? we've got problems! Jul 13 14:26:08 morning ka6sox-away Jul 13 14:26:24 okay Jul 13 14:26:29 morning LarrySteeze Jul 13 14:26:41 You're up early today Jul 13 14:26:50 I've been up for an hour. Jul 13 14:26:56 not awake mind you... Jul 13 14:26:58 That's what I'm saying Jul 13 14:27:01 hah Jul 13 14:28:38 Andolamin: actually it looks like woce.mk points to the fixed tarball, but webos-ports.mk doesn't. if you modify custom.mk (which i presume you're using if you're building your own sources) to use BUILD_SUPPORT_VERSION v0.0.2, then it should compile the correct stuff in. Jul 13 14:29:08 ShiftyAxel: That's what I needed to know! I'll pop back in if I can't get it working Jul 13 14:29:26 Andolamin, please let us know either way... Jul 13 14:30:03 I've sent a pull request to woce-build to include the correct version for the fix Jul 13 14:30:29 will must have forgotten to update custom.mk Jul 13 14:30:37 ka6sox-away: Will do Jul 13 14:30:48 Andolamin: best of luck Jul 13 14:33:14 ShiftyAxel, ty Jul 13 14:35:57 no worries Jul 13 14:37:15 ka6sox: i was thinking, perhaps a better idea than grabbing all the preferences stuff into .json files would be to move all of the preferences sources inside tweaks and have then as subkinds Jul 13 14:37:40 some of it calls some service stuff that i think would be pretty difficult to impliment with tweaks' current infastructure Jul 13 14:38:10 though we'd still need to work around the com.palm namespace issue Jul 13 14:39:03 ShiftyAxel, we should discuss this with EricBlade1 and sconix as well. Jul 13 14:39:10 agreed Jul 13 14:39:46 I'd rather go elegant and simple if thats possible that get really fancy Jul 13 14:40:16 since we will be setting the standard for how future features interact with preferences. Jul 13 14:40:52 also, unlike apps that live in cryptofs I think we can break the taboos on talking to the private bus. Jul 13 14:41:10 this is good Jul 13 14:41:15 it's probably doable, ideally all of it would just be stored in the system prefs db Jul 13 14:41:16 unless only com.palm apps can have access to this bus. Jul 13 14:41:31 i think that's the way it is according to the googling i've been doing Jul 13 14:43:53 actually, thinking about it… if we could move all of the private bus properties/prefs into systemPrefs, they'd all be accessible in real-time and on the public bus Jul 13 14:45:35 though some 'preferences' apps would have to remain either independent apps or hardcoded components, such as Software Manager, Print Manager, Accounts, maybe VPN Jul 13 14:45:49 I'm not sure I want to expose all that yet... Jul 13 14:46:03 security concerns? Jul 13 14:46:09 yes Jul 13 14:46:18 this is fair enough Jul 13 14:46:18 UI prefs...sure Jul 13 14:46:57 allowing a Core OS thing like LSM or LSS to have its prefs exposed...sure, necessary and appropriate Jul 13 14:47:04 LSS? Jul 13 14:47:09 nm Jul 13 14:47:19 somehting like VPN or Accounts...not so much Jul 13 14:47:38 yeah, they should remain as they are Jul 13 14:49:36 i guess it's a matter of separating out preferences that should be consolidated into tweaks and core os stuff that should remain as apps Jul 13 14:50:24 tweaks probably should deal with look/feel issues Jul 13 14:50:40 and not with accounts/settings of apps Jul 13 14:51:50 screen/lock and sounds/ringtones? Jul 13 14:52:07 or just configurable luna stuff that wasn't there before? Jul 13 14:52:14 the latter Jul 13 14:52:26 that would simplify things Jul 13 14:52:44 KISS is usually better Jul 13 14:52:52 this is the truth Jul 13 14:53:16 in that case i'll nuke out the prefs stuff for now and push it w/luna as a menu item in tweaks Jul 13 14:59:01 tyvm Jul 13 15:00:02 no worries :) Jul 13 15:51:20 anybody know how to get this build-support fix working? Jul 13 15:51:51 i tried cloning the repo to my working directory, and changing my custom.mk file to point to 0.0.2 instead of 0.0.1 Jul 13 15:51:56 when i try to compile, i get an error Jul 13 15:52:04 it can't pull down webos doctor Jul 13 15:52:17 hkokx@hkokx-nyan:~/webos$ ./build_luna.sh Jul 13 15:52:17 make CONFIG=custom build Jul 13 15:52:17 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/hkokx/webos/woce-build' Jul 13 15:52:17 make woce-toolchain woce-headers Jul 13 15:52:17 make[2]: Entering directory `/home/hkokx/webos/woce-build' Jul 13 15:52:19 make[2]: Nothing to be done for `woce-toolchain'. Jul 13 15:52:21 mkdir -p ./doctors Jul 13 15:52:23 curl -L -o doctors/webosdoctorp305hstnhwifi-3.0.5.jar http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/touchpad/p305rod01122012/wd305wifi/webosdoctorp305hstnhwifi.jar Jul 13 15:52:25 curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'palm.cdnetworks.net' Jul 13 15:52:28 make[2]: *** [doctors/webosdoctorp305hstnhwifi-3.0.5.jar] Error 6 Jul 13 15:52:30 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/hkokx/webos/woce-build' Jul 13 15:52:32 make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 Jul 13 15:52:34 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/hkokx/webos/woce-build' Jul 13 15:52:36 make: *** [custom] Error 2 Jul 13 15:52:40 HaDAk_: According to others, it's down right now. Jul 13 15:52:47 ok. good to know. Jul 13 15:52:51 is my process right, however? Jul 13 15:54:22 yes, it appears as if the doctors are offline Jul 13 15:56:06 i cloned build-support into my working webos directory (which contains LunaSysMgr and woce-build). ran my build script from there. is that the right process? Jul 13 15:57:18 that works Jul 13 15:57:28 ok. Jul 13 15:57:39 the issue is that the repo that has the doctors is down currently... Jul 13 15:57:41 i'd prefer if the build scripts did that for me. there aren't any real instructions anywhere. Jul 13 15:57:46 yeah, i understand that now Jul 13 15:57:53 but i wasn't sure if any of it was going to work right Jul 13 15:58:21 if you clone woce-build and just type "make" it will build the LSM Jul 13 15:58:29 (assuming all the bits are available) Jul 13 15:59:04 LSM? Jul 13 16:00:08 LunaSysMgr Jul 13 16:00:10 oh. Jul 13 16:00:11 durp Jul 13 16:01:21 sorry git clone woce-build Jul 13 16:01:25 yeah Jul 13 16:01:25 cd woce-build Jul 13 16:01:27 make Jul 13 16:01:36 so, woce-build will pull down LSM when you try to make? Jul 13 16:01:56 yes Jul 13 16:02:35 it will get the toolchain, the tarball for lsm, the doctor and other bits it needs Jul 13 16:02:42 ok. Jul 13 16:02:58 well, i'll have to wait until the doctors are available Jul 13 16:03:01 ho hum Jul 13 16:03:13 if you setup /srv/downloads and /srv/doctors it will save them so when you reclone you don't have to re-get these things. Jul 13 16:03:43 yeah. Jul 13 16:03:55 it's lunchtime. back in a while. Jul 13 16:11:47 ka6sox: almost done with Tweaks, just implimenting a getPreferences function to update the prefs on app start Jul 13 16:31:21 ka6sox: okay, tweaks should be ready for testing Jul 13 16:32:13 i haven't got the getPreference part working yet, but it relies on it's internally stored values when loading luna stuff atm Jul 13 16:33:11 i can't figure out how to get the retrieved preference into the relevant object with the service call/callback system, it's making my head hurt :( Jul 13 16:36:02 ShiftyAxel, it makes mine hurt too! Jul 13 16:36:33 the devil invented callbacks Jul 13 16:36:41 definately Jul 13 16:40:14 * NuttyBunny looks around Jul 13 16:40:27 * NuttyBunny waves hello Jul 13 16:45:34 Can anybody help me work around the palm networks being down for doing my community edition build? Jul 13 16:45:40 I have a copy of the doctor, so I threw it on a local server and modified doctors.mk to point to the new server which lets it download the doctor, but I'm getting an error about it not being a zipfile. Jul 13 16:46:35 morning NuttyBunny Jul 13 16:47:01 Andolamin: I think it has to be a tgz file Jul 13 16:47:35 So do I need to extract the doctor and re-archive it? Jul 13 16:47:35 at least for that config, i believe you can change the type in the .mk file (DIR, TGZ, GIT, etc) Jul 13 16:48:07 Where would I set that? I just changed the url in doctors.mk, which points to a bunch of jar files Jul 13 16:49:23 Andolamin: hmm, have you got a doctors directory inside your woce-build dir? Jul 13 16:49:48 yup Jul 13 16:50:01 It has the doctor file in it Jul 13 16:50:05 hmm Jul 13 16:50:07 interesting Jul 13 16:50:16 it shouldn't need to d/l it if the doctor's there Jul 13 16:50:24 perhaps point doctors.mk at that folder? Jul 13 16:50:39 (disclaimer: I know very little about make, do not quote me on this) Jul 13 16:51:02 Ok - I'll play with it some more Jul 13 16:52:09 good luck! Jul 13 17:01:35 ka6sox: just built the PDK fix with the new build-support, working as expected :) Jul 13 17:05:09 ShiftyAxel: Looks like I had a corrupted doctor file in there. Re-copied the file and did an md5sum check to verify it was good and then ran 'make clobber' followed by 'make custom' and it looks like it didn't have the error again Jul 13 17:05:22 so you're up and rolling? :) Jul 13 17:06:06 This is my first build using the vagrant build environment, so it seems to be slower than I'm used to, but the error I was getting didn't pop up again Jul 13 17:06:22 Waiting for it to download qt4 right now Jul 13 17:09:46 hi NuttyBunny Jul 13 17:10:17 Andolamin, there isn't another option for the doctors...nobody else has rights to distribute Jul 13 17:10:45 Yeah - fortunately I had a copy on my hard-drive I could use Jul 13 17:10:57 good. Jul 13 17:11:15 Wonder how long their server is going to be down Jul 13 17:11:38 they are "working on it" Jul 13 17:12:05 Well that's good to know - at least they're aware of the problem. Shouldn't be down for too long, then. Jul 13 17:12:06 its a rather large network and I'm sure its probably not just palm who are being affected Jul 13 17:12:18 its been down since last night as you know :D Jul 13 17:12:26 (or maybe not!)( Jul 13 17:12:52 I actually didn't know if was down until this morning, so I wasn't aware that it had been down for a while Jul 13 17:13:09 ya, someone else asked about this...sorry Jul 13 17:13:37 bbl Jul 13 17:40:17 mmm. beer. Jul 13 17:44:05 mmm, quaffee Jul 13 18:04:51 Willing to trade any other webOS Doctor for the 3.0.5 version ;) hehehe Jul 13 18:11:25 hmmm... interesting... found it somewhere.. where should I report it? It shouldn't be there Jul 13 18:11:41 NuttyBunny, where is it? Jul 13 18:11:53 also: http://downloads.help.palm.com/webosdoctor/rom/touchpad/p305rod01122012/wd305wifi/webosdoctorp305hstnhwifi.jar Jul 13 18:12:15 on some chinese site, should I post it here? Jul 13 18:12:42 pm me it. I'll look into it Jul 13 18:24:31 ShiftyAxel: Thought you would like to know that everything built fine. Finally got it to build using the new build support and PDK apps are working fine Jul 13 18:24:47 Time to get cracking on my changes Jul 13 18:24:54 Andolamin: Same here, I'm writing gesture mods on a fully-PDK'd touchpad :D Jul 13 18:43:04 where is the build script trying to shove that file? Jul 13 19:07:12 i figured it out. nvm Jul 13 19:32:37 * ShiftyAxel seriously dislikes coordinate mapping Jul 13 19:34:04 wondering if the webos 2.2.4 doctor site is down, does anyone know? Can't seem to access server. Jul 13 19:35:39 bluen: I believe all the doctor servers are having issues atm Jul 13 19:35:52 OK thanks Jul 13 19:43:03 is woce-build supposed to pull down LunaSysMgr when you build it? Jul 13 19:50:04 but... we just got this 3.0.5 doctor... Jul 13 19:50:47 * bhuey has suprisingly been up a while Jul 13 19:57:43 HaDAk: if you run 'make woce' or 'make webos-ports' then yes, if you run 'make custom' then you specify your own Jul 13 20:02:41 ShiftyAxel: problems are resolved now, yes? *accepted pull req* Jul 13 20:02:53 dtzWill: they are indeed :) Jul 13 20:03:03 ty for that hehe Jul 13 20:03:10 glad to assist! Jul 13 20:03:41 so that's one milestone out of the way, do we have many left? Jul 13 20:07:57 ShiftyAxel: dunno, settings goodness and ipk-ification of luna Jul 13 20:08:10 ooooh, ipk Jul 13 20:08:22 and on our end putting together a build server using woce-build to automagically make ipk's like build.git did for wosi Jul 13 20:08:28 nice Jul 13 20:08:30 settings is going well, I sent ka6sox the latest build of Tweaks earlier Jul 13 20:08:50 it provides a nice, json interface for modifying custom preferences Jul 13 20:12:47 ShiftyAxel: thanks man. good to know. Jul 13 20:14:07 morning NuttyBunny Jul 13 20:14:44 mornin again ka6sox :) Jul 13 20:15:52 missed it earlier Jul 13 20:17:32 np, trying to build that new LunaSysMgr, but don't want to get 200Mb files over my 500mb capped broadband adapter, it will have to wait Jul 13 20:18:51 bbl Jul 13 20:45:27 so um... this looks nifty http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931&tab_idx=1 Jul 13 20:56:37 ShiftyAxel: nice!!! re:settings. Sorry, got distracted with other things, as it goes. Jul 13 20:56:47 (this is IRC after all, why am I apologizing? xD hehe) Jul 13 20:57:12 patience is a virtue, especially on IRC ;) Jul 13 20:57:46 hows it goin dtzWill? Jul 13 20:57:56 PatrickC: good! busy as all hell Jul 13 20:58:02 and not nearly enough webos in my life ;) Jul 13 20:58:04 but otherwise rather good Jul 13 20:58:06 ^.^ Jul 13 20:58:10 PatrickC: yourself? Jul 13 20:58:13 goin good Jul 13 20:58:21 sadly, more and more dropping off the webOS scene :/ Jul 13 20:59:44 well I'm still here Jul 13 20:59:47 just...less active Jul 13 21:02:17 honestly, the more i use android... the more i like it Jul 13 21:02:21 someone please slap me haha Jul 13 21:07:52 * ShiftyAxel slaps PatrickC Jul 13 21:07:56 GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF MAN Jul 13 21:07:59 *ahem Jul 13 21:08:10 * PatrickC deserved Jul 13 21:08:12 that* Jul 13 21:08:32 * PatrickC hangs head in shame as he clones the Team Liquid repo to build :/ Jul 13 21:08:38 though ICS is usable, i went through a month or so of using it exclusively Jul 13 21:08:57 …damn, somebody slap me Jul 13 21:09:03 my company provides me with a Razr MAXX on VZW LTE.. i must say, i miss fast internet on webOS Jul 13 21:09:04 enough with the slapping Jul 13 21:09:24 other OS's have value, and that's a perfectly fine thing to recognize :) Jul 13 21:09:29 yep :) Jul 13 21:09:35 just hope that we can get LTE on webOS ;) Jul 13 21:09:41 indeed, just kidding around :p Jul 13 21:10:16 and the smaller ROM communities remind me a lot of webOS Jul 13 21:10:25 but webOS is still home :) Jul 13 21:10:27 and always will be Jul 13 21:10:57 so has anyone looked at dukiedrew's changes ( https://github.com/dukiedrew/LunaSysMgr ) and how we might use them? Jul 13 21:11:12 tabbed cards is pretty neat O:) Jul 13 21:11:24 but i know we're already struggling to integrate our gesture modification changes Jul 13 21:11:35 err idk about struggling, but that's already needing some discussion :) Jul 13 21:11:49 but regardless would be a shame to completely ignore it Jul 13 21:12:12 dtzWill: will there be a completely separate settings for the changes that webOS-ports makes? Jul 13 21:12:19 like, settings app* Jul 13 21:12:20 those changes can come later dtzWill Jul 13 21:12:37 PatrickC: I'm not sure, I've not been following all the dev work on that--think ShiftyAxel is pushing that forwrd atm Jul 13 21:12:59 ahh gotcha Jul 13 21:13:12 halfhalo: sounds good to me, 100%. Good call--just want to keep it on the radar since it's ... well it's fun and shiny :) Jul 13 21:13:21 PatrickC: there will indeed, i've added a Luna section to Tweaks Jul 13 21:13:26 PatrickC: but I think the plan is to touchup a new version of tweaks Jul 13 21:13:29 ShiftyAxel: nice! Jul 13 21:13:29 ah great he can explain Jul 13 21:13:32 * dtzWill defers to ShiftyAxel Jul 13 21:13:34 (ty sir) Jul 13 21:13:38 * ShiftyAxel takes the floor Jul 13 21:13:41 *ahem* Jul 13 21:13:47 BOOOOO! Jul 13 21:13:50 * halfhalo throws a tomato Jul 13 21:13:55 * ShiftyAxel puts the floor back Jul 13 21:13:58 fine, fine Jul 13 21:14:03 i'll find another one Jul 13 21:14:15 lol Jul 13 21:14:21 developers can specify a custom preference value via a tweaks json Jul 13 21:14:40 nice Jul 13 21:15:14 and whenever that entry is modified in tweaks, it calls setPreference() on it with the appropriate value Jul 13 21:15:26 sweet.. Jul 13 21:15:31 yup ;) Jul 13 21:15:44 already tested and working with my fluid-gestures branch Jul 13 21:15:54 but i'm rewriting that as we speak, so things are still a wee bit in flux Jul 13 21:15:55 lies. damn lies and statistics. Jul 13 21:15:57 * dtzWill polls channel: can anyone look at https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/pull/6 at some point? Jul 13 21:16:14 * halfhalo goes to throw together some sort of cool looking CE release for tomorrow Jul 13 21:16:17 well, i still don't have my touchpad back Jul 13 21:16:17 ShiftyAxel: I'm super excited for all that to come together, zomg :D Jul 13 21:16:24 halfhalo: what new features? :) Jul 13 21:16:54 Hell If I know, whatever is cool that I can easily steal/build. Jul 13 21:17:35 haha Jul 13 21:17:45 halfhalo: I think my toblerone-rolo-combo branch is working atm, but god knows what it does (i forgot :D) Jul 13 21:18:11 dtzWill: where should i put documentation for writing a new preference? Jul 13 21:18:23 since it's ready for testing now, it just needs implimentation really Jul 13 21:18:25 ShiftyAxel: the wiki? Jul 13 21:18:30 (dunno I suppose) Jul 13 21:18:46 sounds good to me, i'm not sure if i have permissions to add new pages though Jul 13 21:24:22 woot, my gesture rewrite is going nicely Jul 13 21:24:31 nice! :) Jul 13 21:24:40 can't wait to get my touchpad back and fixed haha Jul 13 21:24:46 at least in landscape orientation... Jul 13 21:25:06 gosh darn shazzin' frazzin' coordinate transforms Jul 13 21:27:30 haha >.< yeah they can be a pita Jul 13 21:29:25 * PatrickC does a happy dance!!! Jul 13 21:29:29 SGS3 should be here monday! :D Jul 13 21:29:40 that my friend, is a really good device i want webOS on :) Jul 13 21:30:03 tegra3==not going to happen in any reasonable timeframe Jul 13 21:32:09 meh, a kid can dream lol Jul 13 21:32:31 2gb ram, quad core (itnl version), beautiful screen, lte.. Jul 13 21:32:33 * PatrickC sighs Jul 13 21:34:18 lte means no quad. psh Jul 13 21:38:33 am I going through and changing all QColor's to red? Why yes, yes I am. Jul 13 21:39:13 halfhalo: for why? Jul 13 21:39:23 redOS? Jul 13 21:39:28 because I can Jul 13 21:43:44 lol Jul 13 21:45:38 :D Jul 13 21:46:44 ka6sox: fluid-gestures rewrite is nearly complete, much more modular now, and it should be easily installable on top of EricBlade's pathc Jul 13 21:46:48 *patch Jul 13 21:51:14 i should probably revert those pull requests if i'm doing rewrites... Jul 13 22:11:02 * ShiftyAxel laughs maniacally as he cuts coordinate transformation out of the equation entirely Jul 13 22:11:33 you sir, have issues Jul 13 22:21:22 if i can ever figure out how to seperate my pull request from the later pushes i did Jul 13 22:22:52 hmm. i do have a little experience with teg3 Jul 13 22:23:05 although i wasn't developing at system level for it Jul 13 22:35:11 hi Jul 13 22:37:19 I have issues too :D Jul 13 22:37:25 and i have pull requests! :D Jul 13 22:38:06 rright Jul 13 22:40:26 ShiftyAxel, I think the review committee meets on odd tuesdays ending in Y Jul 13 22:40:27 :D Jul 13 22:40:42 j/k Jul 13 22:43:55 what about abnormal tuesdays? Jul 13 22:46:04 Abinormal ones... Jul 13 22:46:07