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Jul 19 03:09:52 <eblade-synergy> Hi
Jul 19 03:10:03 <PatrickC> hey eblade-synergy
Jul 19 03:12:39 <eblade-synergy> Sup!
Jul 19 03:14:10 <PatrickC> not much
Jul 19 03:14:32 <PatrickC> whats goin on wiff u?
Jul 19 03:25:44 <halfhalo> "wiff"  Seriously?
Jul 19 03:34:57 * eblade-synergy waiting for the gf  to get done with work so I can get home and achieve things
Jul 19 03:35:15 * PatrickC is tired
Jul 19 03:35:21 <PatrickC> and has been dealing with stupid people all day haha
Jul 19 03:35:47 <PatrickC> so i decided i was not going to type correctly.. not sure why tho heh
Jul 19 03:39:07 * eblade-synergy yawn
Jul 19 03:48:43 <eblade-synergy> The input box bug is now officially driving me nuts. Anyone offer a place to look?
Jul 19 04:03:51 <eblade-synergy> I had a (to me) interesting idea for a neat feature for a mobile os.  We all have dictionaries for our text input right?
Jul 19 04:05:14 <eblade-synergy> The idea would be using our cloud storage as a place that will aggregate all our dictionaries.
Jul 19 04:06:30 <eblade-synergy> Every night your device syncs to its cloud, and picks up dictionary updates
Jul 19 04:08:07 <eblade-synergy> Obv  your local dictionary would override, as well as any local data, such as the auto spell correction to the contacts list, and that sort of thing wouldn't be synced
Jul 19 04:09:12 <eblade-synergy> But something like the top 1k words, by all the users, that are not in the default dictionaries
Jul 19 04:54:31 <rrix> like wiff?
Jul 19 06:42:00 <ka6sox> morning
Jul 19 06:42:27 <ka6sox> as in catch a wiff?
Jul 19 06:42:35 <ka6sox> or do you have a
Jul 19 06:42:38 <ka6sox> wiff?
Jul 19 06:53:51 <ka6sox> EricBlade, I like the no-dashboard on lock idea.
Jul 19 06:55:24 <EricBlade> of course that's sort of assuming that dashboard apps will still be the norm in the future
Jul 19 06:55:49 <ka6sox> why not?
Jul 19 06:58:03 <EricBlade> well my first question will be unable to be answered for a few more weeks -- what will open webos bring to the table?
Jul 19 06:58:25 <EricBlade> will there be something that vaguely resembles android widgets?
Jul 19 06:59:32 <EricBlade> my idea is spurred by the dumb hack of having to put out a dashboard window just to maintain a websocket
Jul 19 07:03:56 <ka6sox> ah!, I get it
Jul 19 07:23:59 <bhuey> folks
Jul 19 07:29:51 <ka6sox> bhuey
Jul 19 07:37:21 <sandgorgon> guys, I am getting an error trying to run make on woce-build..
Jul 19 07:37:43 <sandgorgon> couldn't resolve host 'palm.cdnetworks.net' ?
Jul 19 07:37:56 <ka6sox> ah
Jul 19 07:38:01 <ka6sox> I know that one
Jul 19 07:38:11 <ka6sox> move aside your current woce-build
Jul 19 07:38:21 <ka6sox> reclone and  this will fix itself...
Jul 19 07:38:32 <sandgorgon> oh, okay will try that out
Jul 19 07:38:43 <ka6sox> just move over what you need and then dump the old one (or keep it as you wish)
Jul 19 07:41:43 <sandgorgon> its chugging along now, thanks!
Jul 19 07:42:03 <ka6sox> yw
Jul 19 07:42:17 <ka6sox> that is one I *can* answer!
Jul 19 07:42:27 <sandgorgon> :-D
Jul 19 11:36:47 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> morning all
Jul 19 12:11:23 <EricBlade> morning ShiftyAxel-Pre
Jul 19 12:22:00 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> morning EricBlade
Jul 19 12:54:15 <ShiftyAxel> HaDAk: ping?
Jul 19 13:22:10 <HaDAk_> i'm here
Jul 19 13:22:21 <HaDAk_> my whole face is swollen. how disconcerting.
Jul 19 13:38:12 <ShiftyAxel> figured you might be interested to know- isis compiles and runs fine under the woce build environment
Jul 19 13:38:22 <ShiftyAxel> i've just played about with it a bit
Jul 19 13:38:54 <PatrickC> nice?
Jul 19 13:42:30 <HaDAk_> issat so?
Jul 19 13:42:40 <HaDAk_> do you have build instructions?
Jul 19 13:42:43 <HaDAk_> and is it isis2/
Jul 19 13:45:14 <ShiftyAxel> it's this:
Jul 19 13:45:15 <ShiftyAxel> https://github.com/isis-project/isis-project
Jul 19 13:45:58 <ShiftyAxel> i followed the instructions on there, but had to install xorg and xubuntu-desktop to get it to display
Jul 19 13:46:11 <ShiftyAxel> i think isis2 is a UI
Jul 19 13:46:56 <ShiftyAxel> and in terms of how i've found it… pretty good, pages load in a snap. can't really test any enyo2 stuff because drag events aren't propagated to the page, but it seems good
Jul 19 13:47:20 <ShiftyAxel> though it doesn't run at 60fps, but i blame the lack of graphics drivers for my vm
Jul 19 13:52:20 <HaDAk_> i'm going to try compiling it under kubuntu natively
Jul 19 13:58:26 <ShiftyAxel> good luck!
Jul 19 13:59:56 <HaDAk_> enyo doen't care for webos anymore? wtf is this shit
Jul 19 13:59:57 <HaDAk_> http://enyojs.com/docs/platforms/
Jul 19 14:04:34 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, i saw that
Jul 19 14:04:49 <ShiftyAxel> my guess is that webOS 2.2/3.0 are considered 'legacy'
Jul 19 14:04:52 * HaDAk_ grumbles to himself
Jul 19 14:05:51 <ShiftyAxel> my hope is that they'll add Open webOS as a tier-1 platform upon release
Jul 19 14:06:09 <ShiftyAxel> though it says 'market share', so that might not happen unless it becomes successful
Jul 19 14:06:31 <ShiftyAxel> which isn't such a cool thought :(
Jul 19 14:06:38 * ShiftyAxel prefers not to think about it
Jul 19 14:12:33 <mberg> Ideally would like to see Isis as a tier 1 supported platform (bundled with Open webOS and perhaps available for webOS 3.0 and maybe 2.2, depending on the reletive level of effort of supporting those platforms vs. upgrading devices running those platforms to Open webOS.)
Jul 19 14:13:35 <ShiftyAxel> agreed
Jul 19 14:13:53 <ShiftyAxel> isis does seem good, though i can't say my performance worries are abated just yet
Jul 19 14:16:56 <mberg> I still haven't gotten around to trying it.
Jul 19 14:18:19 <mberg> (Or really even looking at the source yet.  My hope is that it will be easier going forward to fold in upstream improvements.)
Jul 19 14:19:37 <mberg> ll jruby
Jul 19 14:19:39 <mberg> oops
Jul 19 14:21:02 <HaDAk_> i've been playing with the enyojs sampler on my touchpad
Jul 19 14:21:07 <HaDAk_> some things work kinda meh
Jul 19 14:21:14 <HaDAk_> most things seem to be pretty godo
Jul 19 14:21:16 <HaDAk_> good, even
Jul 19 14:21:39 <mberg> I've played a bit with the framework, but only on the desktop.
Jul 19 14:24:56 <HaDAk_> wtf. i plugged my tp into my desktop and it rebooted
Jul 19 14:27:13 <ShiftyAxel> the sampler runs ridiculously well in Safari and Chrome, i'm hoping Isis will be able to either match or top the pair of them, performance-wise
Jul 19 14:27:25 * ShiftyAxel is a 60fps whore
Jul 19 14:27:50 * HaDAk_ loves 60fps
Jul 19 14:27:53 <HaDAk_> hmmm
Jul 19 14:28:11 <HaDAk_> my tp is locking up installing a package
Jul 19 14:28:58 <ShiftyAxel> which package?
Jul 19 14:33:24 <HaDAk_> EricBlade's new beta build
Jul 19 14:33:29 <HaDAk_> of his gvoice plugin
Jul 19 14:33:43 * HaDAk_ pokes the sleeping giant
Jul 19 14:40:08 <HaDAk_> it finally installed
Jul 19 14:40:13 <HaDAk_> luna is acting shitty though.
Jul 19 14:40:18 <HaDAk_> like, taking several minutes to start
Jul 19 14:40:22 * HaDAk_ hmmms
Jul 19 14:58:11 <ShiftyAxel> hmm indeed
Jul 19 14:58:38 <ShiftyAxel> check govnah? sometimes mine goes a bit wonky and decides to switch to another profile/peg the cpu to max
Jul 19 15:00:42 <HaDAk_> it did go back to the uberkernel default
Jul 19 15:03:09 <ShiftyAxel> it's quite annoying when it does that, especially when i find that my touchpad died in the middle of development because it switched off my powersave profile hours ago >:(
Jul 19 15:03:38 <ka6sox> morning
Jul 19 15:03:42 <ShiftyAxel> morning ka6sox
Jul 19 15:04:56 <ka6sox> morning ShiftyAxel
Jul 19 15:10:13 <ka6sox> morning HaDAk_
Jul 19 15:10:40 <ka6sox> assuming people are still "up"
Jul 19 15:10:47 <HaDAk_> mornin
Jul 19 15:11:03 <HaDAk_> i have to be up. i'm at work. :|
Jul 19 15:12:19 <ka6sox> bummers
Jul 19 15:12:36 <ka6sox> today...the forecast is 104deg and Muuuuuuuuuuuuuugggggggggggy
Jul 19 15:12:46 <ShiftyAxel> ouch
Jul 19 15:13:09 <ShiftyAxel> i guess that's one advantage of british summer, no overheating
Jul 19 15:13:12 <ShiftyAxel> though i do miss the sun
Jul 19 15:13:15 <ka6sox> I won't get to North America but will be able to see it...
Jul 19 15:14:30 <ka6sox> (I think my Passport is expired)
Jul 19 15:15:33 <ka6sox> j/k
Jul 19 15:16:06 <HaDAk_> NA blows.
Jul 19 15:16:08 <HaDAk_> hate this place.
Jul 19 15:16:55 <ka6sox> no kidding
Jul 19 15:17:07 <ka6sox> living on the Pacific Plate is the *only* place to live...
Jul 19 15:17:53 <ka6sox> (except if we sink into the ocean suddenly
Jul 19 15:17:55 <ka6sox> )
Jul 19 15:19:54 <ka6sox> okay...let me get finished packing....
Jul 19 15:20:25 <ka6sox> need to add 2 more gallons of water.
Jul 19 15:23:27 <ShiftyAxel> hmm, you know you're procrastinating when you spend more time on hiding a dustpuppy in your app than functionality
Jul 19 15:23:39 * ShiftyAxel needs to hurry up and stop procrastinating
Jul 19 15:39:05 <ka6sox> bye folk...
Jul 19 15:39:17 <ka6sox> been nice knowing you if I get caught @ the Border...
Jul 19 15:40:51 <ShiftyAxel> i hear flinging oneself over in a catapult works wonders
Jul 19 15:40:59 <ShiftyAxel> laters
Jul 19 15:59:50 <ShiftyAxel> wow, enyo2 changes orientation ridiculously fast
Jul 19 17:44:46 <HaDAk_> isis still crashes in kubuntu -.-
Jul 19 17:45:24 <HaDAk_> hkokx@hkokx-nyan:~/webos/isis-project$ ./run.sh
Jul 19 17:45:24 <HaDAk_> /home/hkokx/webos/staging/lib
Jul 19 17:45:24 <HaDAk_> Killing zombie BrowserServers
Jul 19 17:45:24 <HaDAk_> Starting BrowserServer
Jul 19 17:45:24 <HaDAk_> Can't call inotify_add_watchData: No such file or directory
Jul 19 17:45:24 <HaDAk_> ** (BrowserServer:7002): WARNING **: Unable to initialize plugin directory watcher
Jul 19 17:45:27 <HaDAk_> ** Message: startService: BrowserServer started on service bus
Jul 19 17:45:29 <HaDAk_> (process:7003): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.32.3/./gobject/gtype.c:2722: You forgot to call g_type_init()
Jul 19 17:45:31 <HaDAk_> (process:7003): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.32.3/./gobject/gtype.c:2722: You forgot to call g_type_init()
Jul 19 17:45:33 <HaDAk_> (process:7003): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_interface_add_prerequisite: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_INTERFACE (interface_type)' failed
Jul 19 17:45:35 <HaDAk_> (process:7003): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `result != 0' failed
Jul 19 17:45:38 <HaDAk_> (process:7003): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_add_interface_static: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_INSTANTIATABLE (instance_type)' failed
Jul 19 17:45:40 <HaDAk_> (process:7003): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `result != 0' failed
Jul 19 17:45:42 <HaDAk_> (process:7003): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_new: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed
Jul 19 17:45:44 <HaDAk_> ./run.sh: line 54:  7003 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) $DEBUGGER./isis-test -platform xlib $URL
Jul 19 17:45:46 <HaDAk_> Stopping BrowserServer
Jul 19 17:45:49 <HaDAk_> SIGTERM received. Shutting down...
Jul 19 17:45:55 <HaDAk_> kaboom
Jul 19 17:47:05 <halfhalo> boomshakalakalaka
Jul 19 22:54:40 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> cello everybody
Jul 19 23:11:49 <bluen> hola
Jul 19 23:12:31 <bluen> out of the blue got a touchpad in the mail from MN, one of the 2009 packages that say Palm on it and have the charger also (but not the phone back)
Jul 19 23:13:00 <bluen> got it from a rebate co, the best i can think is that this is the veer rebate, shipped 10 months later
Jul 19 23:16:56 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> wow
Jul 19 23:17:02 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> sounds like a nice suprise
Jul 19 23:31:20 <ka6sox-farfarawa> morning
Jul 19 23:37:23 <rrix> come back!
Jul 19 23:37:51 <bluen> was cool that it came in original 2009 Palm packaging. Had given up on the rebate last year after the leo debacle
Jul 19 23:38:28 <ka6sox-farfarawa> rrix?
Jul 19 23:39:53 <bluen> whoops wrote touchpad but meant touchstone. STONE not pad, as in rock boulder, charging vehicle
Jul 19 23:41:44 <rrix> ka6sox-farfarawa: you're far far away
Jul 19 23:41:45 <rrix> :P
Jul 19 23:44:18 <ka6sox-farfarawa> I can *see* North America from here...but I have to find my passport someplace...
Jul 19 23:44:25 <rrix> :)
Jul 19 23:44:39 <bhuey> folks
Jul 19 23:54:45 <ka6sox-farfarawa> its been sooooo long.....dunno if they would let me back in!
Jul 19 23:57:50 <ka6sox-farfarawa> any news?
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