**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 23 02:59:58 2012 Jul 23 06:34:54 So, finally had the free bandiwdth to try to set up woce-be Jul 23 06:35:08 I'm getting an error when I run vagrant up in the woce-be directory http://privatepaste.com/b13107dec4 Jul 23 06:35:24 looks like my vagrant might be broken or something? (It's just an RPM install of it though) Jul 23 06:49:58 * rrix embeds himself Jul 23 07:01:11 is rixx embedded now? Jul 23 07:10:08 hmm, I guess not Jul 23 07:10:11 I took my laptop with me Jul 23 07:10:27 * ka6sox is confuzed. Jul 23 07:10:27 I'm instlaling a windows VM for this hardware that refuses to work in linux :( Jul 23 07:10:55 ka6sox: embeds => in bed Jul 23 07:11:10 good place to be...I should be as well. Jul 23 07:11:25 the fog has come in and I won't get any more pictures tonight. Jul 23 07:11:42 Whatcha taking pictures of? Jul 23 07:11:57 M51 Jul 23 07:12:33 hmmm Jul 23 07:12:36 andromeda, right? Jul 23 07:12:50 no, that's m31 Jul 23 07:12:51 Whirlpool. Jul 23 07:12:53 Right Jul 23 07:12:58 Bad ass Jul 23 07:13:12 I wish I could see anything in PHX, too much ligh pollution Jul 23 07:13:24 was testing to see how good my drift alignment was... Jul 23 07:13:36 good enough for 20minute unguided exposures... Jul 23 07:13:42 What are you using? Jul 23 07:13:53 Hooking a camera up to a telescope, I assume? Jul 23 07:14:04 C8/XSi Jul 23 07:15:02 8" F/10 Jul 23 07:15:38 Fun :) Jul 23 07:16:19 * rrix wishes he had a car to go drive out in the desert where there isn't as much light Jul 23 07:16:19 mostly just learning the gear... Jul 23 07:16:49 too bad there is development all the way past AJ these days...when I was last there it was the edge of the Universe. Jul 23 07:17:46 Yeah, it's bad news Jul 23 07:18:01 Last time I tried, my dad and I ended up almost all the way north to wickenburg Jul 23 07:18:24 HSL does our high speed photography southwest of town, it gets dark enough there Jul 23 07:19:03 looking south I'll bet...but anything to the northeast should see a lot of Glow... Jul 23 07:19:49 Definitely Jul 23 07:20:05 Opposite when we drove out to Circle City last year Jul 23 07:21:30 It's crazy how much PHX is expanding Jul 23 07:22:14 the latest expansion in the north is like 20 miles north of where I grew up, and I grew up on the edge of town Jul 23 07:23:27 And I have friends who live in san tan valley, 80 miles away Jul 23 07:25:53 hmm, apparently I don't have permissions to set up network interfaces Jul 23 07:26:13 is vboxmanage supposed to be able to hostonlyif create without root? Jul 23 08:45:09 rrix yes,you can create it without root...at least I do Jul 23 12:12:06 morning all Jul 23 15:55:08 morning Jul 23 15:57:57 morning Jul 23 16:16:13 ShiftyAxel_TP, pin! Jul 23 16:16:15 +g Jul 23 16:17:38 Sconix pulled in your tweaks patches... Jul 23 18:27:34 mornin all Jul 23 18:27:42 hola EricBlade Jul 23 18:27:51 thanks for the tip on the TP GO's yesterday BTW Jul 23 18:27:59 did you get some? :D Jul 23 18:28:07 hahahahahahaha Jul 23 18:28:09 i wish Jul 23 18:29:31 There are no TP Go's, there never were, none of this Happened. Jul 23 19:55:36 ka6sox: belated pong! Jul 23 19:55:57 sweet, does that mean we're in alpha w/tweaks now? Jul 23 19:58:25 ShiftyAxel_TP: can you send me a couple system files off your tp? Jul 23 19:59:00 HaDAk: what files are we talking here? Jul 23 19:59:16 i need /usr/lib/libWebKitLuna.so and /usr/lib/BrowserServerPlugins/libflashplayer.so Jul 23 20:03:12 did you break yours? Jul 23 20:03:16 yup Jul 23 20:03:44 and I'm not sure if I have any way to upload them from the TP- don't have laptop access atm Jul 23 20:04:12 if it's a hassle, don't worry about it. i'll figure it out later. Jul 23 20:50:28 HaDAk: when replacing files, make sure you backup the old ones :) Jul 23 20:50:38 smartass :P Jul 23 20:51:15 which, btw, that UA changer does back them up and has an option to restore .. unless you broke the backups too Jul 23 20:51:38 hm. i'll have to look and see if it actually did make backups. Jul 23 20:51:51 cause i edited them by hand before. i don't know if it grabbed my old, broken ones and backed those up Jul 23 20:52:22 oh hey, someone else who edited theirs by hand too! Jul 23 20:52:30 >.> Jul 23 20:52:48 what's worse, it reports the UA i told it to...but still won't let me watch hulu Jul 23 20:52:54 says i'm blocking ads Jul 23 20:53:03 even after removing adblock Jul 23 20:53:06 yea, the UA fix in flashplayer was the first unofficial fix Jul 23 20:53:16 then they started doing detection in javascript too Jul 23 20:53:33 is there any way to make it work, presently? Jul 23 20:53:49 not sure. I don't watch hulu on my touchpad Jul 23 20:53:57 neither do i. but i'd like to. :P Jul 23 20:54:01 HaDAk what's the UA ? Jul 23 20:54:12 it's reporting as Ie7 in XP Jul 23 20:54:41 well, I edited mine to make it work just as a PoC and then decided I didn't care and reverted them Jul 23 20:54:59 i'd leave it as is, but the market doesn't work. Jul 23 20:55:16 send me the whole UA string Jul 23 20:55:19 my thinking is a dynamic UA-switching http proxy would be a better bet Jul 23 20:55:21 ? Jul 23 20:55:43 when we get the source, i'd like to separate the UA in the browser from the rest of the system Jul 23 20:55:58 HaDAk http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebKit_UserAgent_Override Jul 23 20:56:30 I was too lazy to look up the ARM calling conventions to see what leaving extra arguments on the call to *printf could potentially do to the stack Jul 23 20:56:38 it's presently reporting the normal UA. hum. the script said it failed...lemme see if i can access the market Jul 23 20:57:10 hum. it's working. Jul 23 20:57:12 ok, well. fuck it. Jul 23 20:57:13 lol Jul 23 20:57:44 EricBlade: i didn't realize you could override it in the browser conf. i don't think that'll work for flash though Jul 23 20:57:53 oh shiz, a Go just ran synergv Jul 23 20:57:58 EricBlade: too bad dkirker couldn't tell us about that before.... Jul 23 20:58:06 DUNDUNDUN Jul 23 20:58:16 EricBlade: i've still been having issues with syncing, even with the new one. Jul 23 20:58:27 unless i manually run the app the first time, it won't sync Jul 23 20:58:34 dwc-: i saw that in the conf files months ago, played with it, didn't see any changes. didn't try after 3.0.4 though Jul 23 20:58:35 I need to go steal a flash drive Jul 23 20:58:49 * HaDAk wants to steal the Go Jul 23 20:59:12 dwc-: Well.... I had reasons that I couldn't. I also know how to do a user agent override on the phones (all of them) without having to patch WebKit. :) Jul 23 20:59:31 dkirker: I realize that, that was a serious statement Jul 23 20:59:50 EricBlade: i went to forest place optical in plymouth today to order prescription 3d glasses. i'll be the first person in the midwest with a pair :D Jul 23 21:00:09 prescription 3d glasses? Jul 23 21:00:12 HaDAk: do you not see in 3d now? :) Jul 23 21:00:18 dwc-: hush. Jul 23 21:00:20 EricBlade: hell yes. Jul 23 21:00:24 RealD Jul 23 21:00:25 dwc-: Sadly, the phone method isn't a wholesale replacement, you just tack on tokens, and expect the remote end to hunt for iPhone before webOS. :) Jul 23 21:00:41 EricBlade: What are you using to track devices running SynerGV? Jul 23 21:01:11 just logging the hit to the webserver's what's new page Jul 23 21:01:33 * dwc- changes his UA to see what EricBlade thinks of it Jul 23 21:02:01 EricBlade: User Agent string? Jul 23 21:02:03 i would fuck with my friend's stats by having my win 3.11 vm load up his webpage in mosaic Jul 23 21:02:15 HaDAk: DO IT!!!! >:-D Jul 23 21:02:29 os/2 warp Jul 23 21:02:37 can't emulate os/2 Jul 23 21:02:56 dkirker: it grabs it with some info from getDeviceInfo Jul 23 21:03:21 who needs to emulate it? Jul 23 21:03:41 wait, what can you run win 3.11 on but not os/2? Jul 23 21:04:01 dwc-: at least back in the day, os/2 was a lot pickier about hardware Jul 23 21:04:29 os/2 uses hardware differently Jul 23 21:04:50 last time i tried to load os/2, it wouldn't start unless i disabled SATA in the BIOS, and then it blew up a little later anyway Jul 23 21:05:30 lol Jul 23 21:06:19 HaDAk re your problem with synergv syncing, i'd need to see what's going on in the sync command .. if you can run the service or grab the relevant portion from /usr/log/messages while it does a sync .. we can see what's blowing up Jul 23 21:06:40 if i run the service, it runs fine Jul 23 21:06:53 but if i reboot my TP it won't start syncing until i run the app Jul 23 21:07:01 fwiw, gvoice grabs it just fine Jul 23 21:07:41 hmm. the persistent activity that runs the sync works, i just verified that myself today Jul 23 21:08:53 i'm rebooting now. Jul 23 21:09:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwR6w2TgxY&list=UUn-K7GIs62ENvdQe6ZZk9-w&index=5&feature=plcp Jul 23 21:09:23 jesus christ, i'd eat her like an orange Jul 23 21:09:26 * HaDAk coughs Jul 23 21:11:24 EricBlade: what's your app id in the log? Jul 23 21:11:45 service is com.ericblade.synergv.service Jul 23 21:12:07 shoot me a text. i've got it tailing the log. Jul 23 21:12:55 ok, my phone got it. Jul 23 21:12:57 chrome just got it. Jul 23 21:13:02 i'll wait a minute Jul 23 21:13:30 nuh uh Jul 23 21:13:36 after a sync, the bottom of the log should say that it's rescheduling in X minutes, where X should be your sync time Jul 23 21:13:49 oddly enough, i'm not getting anything from thet service Jul 23 21:14:04 tail -f /var/log/messages | grep com.ericblade.synergv.service gives me nothing Jul 23 21:14:07 at all Jul 23 21:14:16 even if you start the app? Jul 23 21:14:45 i start the app, and it goes apeshit. Jul 23 21:14:55 and grabs my message Jul 23 21:15:29 but i had to manually start it Jul 23 21:21:25 this package takes forever to install Jul 23 21:23:58 installed, rebooted, tailing log. Jul 23 21:26:10 nothing popping up in the log. Jul 23 22:03:41 EricBlade: I can't imagine dos booting very well off non-compatible-mode sata either Jul 23 22:10:12 Hmm, the woce-be instructions should include reboot after installing vbox and vagrant; vagrant doesn't work until a reboot even if I install all the requisit kmods Jul 23 22:49:17 woot, passed uni year 2 with a distinction Jul 23 22:49:32 take that, poor teaching standards! Jul 23 23:30:04 hmm, what's the easiest way to get /home/vagrant/woce-build out of the build env? Jul 23 23:41:40 scp probably Jul 23 23:41:49 or maybe a virtualbox shared folder Jul 23 23:49:32 scp -P 2222 -i /home/rrix/.vagrant.d/insecure_private_key vagrant@127.0.0.1://home/vagrant/woce-build/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr/build/woce/armv7-stage/release-topaz/LunaSysMgr .worked Jul 23 23:52:15 * rrix restarts Luna and sees what he's done Jul 23 23:52:43 WOAHMYGOD YOU DESTROYED IT Jul 23 23:56:58 * rrix is still waiting for it to finish ticking... Jul 23 23:59:25 hmmm Jul 24 00:02:58 Yeah, it's definitely looping Jul 24 00:03:05 Cute Jul 24 00:03:14 It won't stop rescanning for applications Jul 24 00:03:26 you have the source. fix it! :D Jul 24 00:04:11 Sure, let me get acquainted with the code base enough to actually be able to do that first though :P Jul 24 00:04:19 * rrix sticks the old lunasysmgr back in Jul 24 00:04:44 wanna grab the files i need off there while you're at it? XD Jul 24 00:05:47 I'll put ce on my other touchpad tonight so that I can debug without playing with data I actually care about Jul 24 00:05:51 HaDAk: what do you need? Jul 24 00:06:53 i need /usr/lib/libWebKitLuna.so and /usr/lib/BrowserServerPlugins/libflashplayer.so Jul 24 00:11:32 I don't have the latter Jul 24 00:11:39 O_o Jul 24 00:11:43 are you on 3.0.5? Jul 24 00:11:53 yeah Jul 24 00:12:06 can you pull this out of the webos doctor? Jul 24 00:12:06 * rrix looks around Jul 24 00:12:11 (hadak) Jul 24 00:12:13 weird. neither do i. Jul 24 00:12:15 ./media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/BrowserServerPlugins/libflashplayer.so Jul 24 00:12:19 dwc-: prolly. Jul 24 00:12:28 what's the md5sum of that file? Jul 24 00:14:08 14c20ba9fc2183a93648c70488e0ec8e ./media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/BrowserServerPlugins/libflashplayer.so Jul 24 00:14:18 ~/Downloads/webos/touchpad-wifi-doctor-3.0.5/rootfs$ zgrep WebKit md5sums.gz Jul 24 00:14:22 3d90fd6e33e1f382814c653c0e63a6eb *./usr/lib/libWebKitLuna.so Jul 24 00:15:01 ok, libflashplayer.so has the same sum Jul 24 00:15:06 lemme check libwebkitluna Jul 24 00:15:24 hmm, wow, even after replacing Luna my touchpad wont properly start up :x Jul 24 00:15:27 ok, that's good too. nevermind then. i'm good to go. Jul 24 00:15:39 rrix: what does the message log say? Jul 24 00:15:57 A lot Jul 24 00:16:05 :) Jul 24 00:17:29 * rrix doesn't see any errors or anything :x Jul 24 00:18:00 2012-07-24T00:17:19.172106Z [85374] webos-device user.warning ofile.js: {com.palm.deviceprofile}: {deviceprofile}: returned error: Error: palm://com.palm.telephony/modemfirmwareversionQuery {}: Unknown PalmCall failure at Object.create (/usr/palm/frameworks/foundations/version/1.0/javascript/structure/err.js:5:17) at /usr/palm/frameworks/foundations/version/1.0/javascript/comms/palmcall.js:158:16 at Future. (/usr/palm/frameworks/fou Jul 24 00:18:08 oops, wow, I'm sorry Jul 24 00:18:09 You're not my pastebin Jul 24 00:18:19 http://privatepaste.com/b082422712 Jul 24 00:18:53 2012-07-24T00:17:28.591460Z [85383] webos-device user.warning activitymanager[2606]: [activitymanager.systemmanagerproxy] Subscription to System Manager failed, retrying: {"errorCode":-1,"errorText":"com.palm.systemmanager is not running.","returnValue":false,"serviceName":"com.palm.systemmanager"} Jul 24 00:19:08 Let's try to restart this thing... Jul 24 01:03:09 Woot, worked afte ra reboot Jul 24 01:03:11 strange Jul 24 01:30:09 I guess we need to put instructions that say you need to do a compleat reboot? Jul 24 01:30:15 as everyone has said the same thing. Jul 24 01:31:18 * ka6sox doubts shifty is still awake. Jul 24 01:45:21 ka6sox: change the start LunaSysMgr command to be a reboot on the wiki? Jul 24 01:45:40 I don't have edit on that page Jul 24 01:46:48 rrix I can give you that...what user name? Jul 24 01:49:00 rrix, you have access now... Jul 24 01:49:06 hehe, thanks :) Jul 24 01:49:19 * rrix draws penises on the wiki Jul 24 01:52:07 lo Jul 24 01:52:10 +l Jul 24 02:09:18 ka6sox: is there an issue tracker anywhere or anything like that? Not sure where in the codebase to work Jul 24 02:09:26 Obviously people are doing gestures stuff, but Jul 24 02:37:00 rrix|, issues.webos-ports.org :D Jul 24 02:41:27 yay, ZNC+konversation again **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 24 02:59:58 2012