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Aug 06 03:31:32 <tyrok> Took almost exactly an hour to build.
Aug 06 03:32:20 <tyrok> Pushed a new version that corrects permissions on (and mounting points for) /run/shm.
Aug 06 03:44:33 <dukiedrew> Tyrok, what are y'all working on?
Aug 06 03:48:09 <ka6sox-away> hiya half
Aug 06 03:48:29 <dtzWill> ka6sox: hiya to you too :)
Aug 06 03:49:21 <halfhalo> DUNDUNDUN
Aug 06 04:01:06 <destinal> halfhalo: hey
Aug 06 04:01:18 <halfhalo> moo.
Aug 06 04:04:40 <rrix> tyrok: hey hey
Aug 06 04:07:40 <tyrok> rrix: Hi!  dukiedrew was wondering how the merge is going.
Aug 06 04:08:20 <rrix> tyrok: I've been working on packaging all day and I haven't had the chance to work on the merge :x
Aug 06 04:08:31 <rrix> dukiedrew^
Aug 06 04:08:50 <tyrok> rrix: Figured you'd be the person to ask.  :)
Aug 06 04:09:02 <tyrok> dukiedrew: And, to answer your question to me, I've been working on this: https://github.com/tyrok1/luna-sysmgr-build-on-64bit
Aug 06 04:09:25 <tyrok> One single script to install a 32-bit build environment under 64-bit Ubuntu for OWO-LSM.
Aug 06 04:13:54 <dukiedrew> OWO-LSM != WOCE-LSM, right?
Aug 06 04:14:02 <tyrok> For the moment, right.
Aug 06 04:14:06 <dukiedrew> is the goal to get OWO-LSM working, soas to not need to bother with WOCE-LSM?
Aug 06 04:14:32 <tyrok> Different goals.  OWO is more for new devices, WOCE is for supporting the TouchPad.
Aug 06 04:14:46 <rrix> Right
Aug 06 04:15:13 <dukiedrew> nice, but yeah, if OWO-LSM works for TP too, that'd be great i guess
Aug 06 04:15:20 <dukiedrew> one code base :)
Aug 06 04:17:07 <tyrok> Yep.  And it's looking like that'll be possible with fairly minimal changes at this point.  But we'll see.
Aug 06 04:24:01 * HaDAk is becoming an enyo expert...by completing t he tutorial.
Aug 06 04:24:06 <destinal> tyrok: are you able to get a functional LSM running in X on ubuntu at this point?
Aug 06 04:24:26 <HaDAk> i had compilation issues with LSM in ubuntu
Aug 06 04:25:59 <tyrok> Sure.  Run that build script.  All I get is a gesture bar and a black screen, though.  But it compiles fine.
Aug 06 04:34:35 <ka6sox-away> hi
Aug 06 04:35:06 <tyrok> ka6sox-farfar: Howdy!
Aug 06 04:35:20 <tyrok> HaDAk: 64-bit Ubuntu?
Aug 06 04:35:29 <ka6sox-farfar> hiya
Aug 06 04:36:01 <HaDAk> tyrok: it might be. i can't remembe what I installed in my vm.
Aug 06 04:36:21 <HaDAk> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/nasatv/
Aug 06 04:36:46 <tyrok> HaDAk: Run "uname -a" if you want to find out.
Aug 06 04:37:17 <HaDAk> yah. i know linux. i just don't wanna boot my vm, lol
Aug 06 04:37:30 <tyrok> HaDAk: Heh.  :)
Aug 06 04:38:06 <tyrok> The Ubuntu install I'm compiling under is 64-bit.  Problem is that OWO-LSM builds a 32-bit binary and there are a few required libraries that cannot be installed side-by-side with their 64-bit counterparts using normal Ubuntu packages.
Aug 06 04:38:36 <HaDAk> if that's the case, i'll just reinstall my vm as 32bit
Aug 06 04:38:41 <tyrok> So, that script sets up a 32-bit install of Ubuntu within the 64-bit host so you can build it at native speed (instead of a VM).
Aug 06 04:38:52 <HaDAk> oh, i missed the script
Aug 06 04:39:00 <tyrok> Cuts out the overhead of virtualization.
Aug 06 04:39:12 <tyrok> HaDAk: https://github.com/tyrok1/luna-sysmgr-build-on-64bit
Aug 06 04:39:17 <HaDAk> thanks
Aug 06 04:39:31 <tyrok> Retesting it right now.  I made a few changes earlier to make it a bit more seamless.
Aug 06 04:40:31 <tyrok> That script has to be run as root.  I'd recommend looking through it first so you know what it does - it's pretty straightforward, and there's no reason you should trust me with root on your system.  :)
Aug 06 04:40:34 <HaDAk> wow. that grabs everything and makes it, huh?
Aug 06 04:40:40 <HaDAk> i'm reading it now
Aug 06 04:40:49 * HaDAk doesn't care about a testing vm, lol
Aug 06 04:40:50 <tyrok> Makes the environment and sets up two scripts within it - one to build and one to run.
Aug 06 04:41:23 <HaDAk> you should really be watching this landing
Aug 06 04:41:26 <HaDAk> super neat stuff
Aug 06 04:41:42 <tyrok> I plan to.  Figured I'd check in as it gets a little closer.
Aug 06 04:41:58 <HaDAk> less than an hour
Aug 06 04:44:04 <tyrok> HaDAk: You should be able to get OWO-LSM running (what runs of it, anyway) with four commands: that script, the xhost command it tells you to run (you have to run it as your user, not root, which is why the script doesn't do it), the build script, and the run script.
Aug 06 04:44:28 <HaDAk> i'll give it a shot
Aug 06 04:44:30 <HaDAk> :)
Aug 06 04:44:42 <tyrok> Sounds good.  It'll be nice to have someone else testing it.  :)
Aug 06 04:45:12 <tyrok> afk for a bit
Aug 06 04:45:17 <tyrok> Ping me if needed.
Aug 06 04:45:20 <morphis> tyrok: is OWO-LSM running already without problems?
Aug 06 04:45:36 <tyrok> morphis: I wouldn't say without problems, but it runs.  :)
Aug 06 04:45:46 <morphis> ok, so UI is display as normal
Aug 06 04:45:53 <panda-z> hi, just now i built a 64-bit OWO-LSM on my 64-bit Arch
Aug 06 04:46:00 <morphis> s/display/displayed/
Aug 06 04:46:00 <WoceBot> morphis meant: ok, so UI is displayed as normal
Aug 06 04:46:01 <tyrok> morphis: Nope.  Displays as a black screen.
Aug 06 04:46:13 <morphis> tyrok: as no wallpaper ist set?
Aug 06 04:46:21 <tyrok> panda-z: Awesome.  I normally run Gentoo, so I may have to try that.
Aug 06 04:46:35 <tyrok> morphis: As in you get a gesture area and a black screen.
Aug 06 04:47:02 <morphis> ok
Aug 06 04:47:14 <tyrok> EricBladeTP and ShiftyAxel|Away have both had some sporadic success with getting the launcher working (as I understand it), but it seems to happen randomly and breaks when you use the home button in the gesture area.
Aug 06 04:47:46 <tyrok> Sometimes they get gray screens.  Sometimes black.  Sometimes the launcher.  We haven't figured out exactly why each of them happen yet.
Aug 06 04:47:56 <panda-z> tyrok: yeah, it can run normally and i saw a clock at top-left and 'HP webOS' at top-right
Aug 06 04:48:10 <tyrok> panda-z: Nice.
Aug 06 04:48:50 <tyrok> panda-z: Did you have to do anything other than the install script from HP?
Aug 06 04:48:56 <HaDAk> hmm. i'm i686
Aug 06 04:49:13 <morphis> tyrok: ok, good to know
Aug 06 04:49:32 <panda-z> tyrok: yes, i modified a little with the script.
Aug 06 04:49:57 <tyrok> panda-z: Mind filling us in so the rest of us can try to get that far?  :)
Aug 06 04:52:37 <panda-z> tyrok: of course, the mainly part is the build function of qt4
Aug 06 04:54:30 <panda-z> i'll show you the diffs
Aug 06 04:57:19 <panda-z> tyrok: http://pastebin.com/EwSBTL86
Aug 06 05:15:07 * destinal tunes in to mars landing
Aug 06 05:22:15 * tyrok attempts, but they appear to be rather swamped currently.
Aug 06 05:23:24 <dukiedrew> http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL
Aug 06 05:49:28 <tyrok> Well, that was pretty awesome.
Aug 06 05:49:47 <tyrok> dukiedrew: Thanks for the link.  It ended up being a few seconds ahead of the one on nasa.gov.
Aug 06 05:49:58 <dukiedrew> np
Aug 06 05:50:13 <dukiedrew> it was very cool
Aug 06 05:50:38 <tyrok> Indeed it was.
Aug 06 05:50:46 * rwhitby concurs
Aug 06 05:50:58 <cryptk> indeed
Aug 06 05:56:33 <HaDAk> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/
Aug 06 05:57:29 <destinal> they landed within ~2.5 kilometers of target -- pretty impressive
Aug 06 05:58:09 <cryptk> if anyone can find a video of the landing happening, that would be awesome
Aug 06 06:00:23 <dukiedrew> was it recording?  regardless, I think it will be another hour or 2 before satellite comes back
Aug 06 06:01:36 <dukiedrew> 12.30am...so hour and a half
Aug 06 07:41:00 * EricBlade returns
Aug 06 07:55:20 <rrix> What's the word?
Aug 06 07:55:24 <rrix> halfhalo: yt?
Aug 06 07:55:46 <EricBlade> Unchanged from yesterday. Still Bird.
Aug 06 07:57:37 <rrix> Damnit all
Aug 06 07:57:43 <rrix> :)
Aug 06 07:57:48 * rrix is aabout 30 seconds from sleep
Aug 06 07:57:52 <rrix> What a crazy weekend
Aug 06 11:44:22 <bhuey> folks
Aug 06 15:54:02 * EricBlade arrives
Aug 06 15:57:32 <ShiftyAxel> morning all
Aug 06 16:20:19 <ka6sox> yawn
Aug 06 16:22:51 <ShiftyAxel> morning ka6sox
Aug 06 16:23:14 <ka6sox> indeed...not sure if its good. or not
Aug 06 16:23:30 <ShiftyAxel> for why?
Aug 06 16:23:40 <ka6sox> no coffee yet
Aug 06 16:23:47 <ShiftyAxel> ah
Aug 06 17:37:20 * HaDAk waves his arms wildly
Aug 06 17:37:46 <EricBlade> sup
Aug 06 17:37:53 <HaDAk> i'm having problems with enyo :(
Aug 06 17:38:42 <HaDAk> http://beta.hanskokx.com/mobile/
Aug 06 17:38:49 <HaDAk> can you tell me how the hell to right align that button?
Aug 06 17:42:08 <ShiftyAxel> looooooading
Aug 06 17:42:26 <ShiftyAxel> wow, that's a beast of a button
Aug 06 17:42:30 <ShiftyAxel> hmm
Aug 06 17:42:34 <HaDAk> just temporary
Aug 06 17:42:39 <HaDAk> http://pastebin.com/MKKHh3Mp
Aug 06 17:42:50 <ShiftyAxel> myself I use 'style:"position:absolute; right:0;"'
Aug 06 17:43:28 <HaDAk> yannow
Aug 06 17:43:30 <HaDAk> that'll work
Aug 06 17:43:32 <ShiftyAxel> you might be able to get away with just using style:"right:0;"
Aug 06 17:43:35 <HaDAk> i was trying to do it the "enyo" way
Aug 06 17:43:42 <HaDAk> with a flex layout and shit
Aug 06 17:43:42 <ShiftyAxel> align:right?
Aug 06 17:43:47 <ShiftyAxel> ah, yeah those
Aug 06 17:43:57 <ShiftyAxel> iirc toolbars automaticall have a HFlexLayout
Aug 06 17:44:10 <ShiftyAxel> so you could always add fit:true to the logo
Aug 06 17:44:19 <ShiftyAxel> but that might move it, so yeah. YMMV
Aug 06 17:44:28 * ShiftyAxel finds web layout needlessly confusing
Aug 06 17:44:40 <HaDAk> i tried fit: true, but that didn't work
Aug 06 17:44:49 <HaDAk> i was up pounding my head on the "enyo" way for hours last night
Aug 06 17:46:22 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, I had that when I build wifi file sharing
Aug 06 17:46:29 <ShiftyAxel> i'm still having it a little with the enyo2 rewrite :s
Aug 06 17:46:48 <ShiftyAxel> so far everything's positioned absolutely, which works, i just get this feeling that it's really bad practice
Aug 06 17:53:22 <summatusmentis> what's the issue?
Aug 06 17:54:28 <summatusmentis> when you say right align, do you mean the button itself? or the text inside?
Aug 06 17:56:22 <HaDAk> the button itself
Aug 06 17:56:35 <summatusmentis> ok
Aug 06 17:58:26 <summatusmentis> wait, are you using enyo1 or enyo2?
Aug 06 17:59:04 <HaDAk> enyo 2
Aug 06 18:00:01 <summatusmentis> if it's enyo2, it doesn't look like Toolbar has a FittableProperty, so inside the toolbar you'll need something like: {kind: "enyo.FittableColumns", components: [ {your image}, {fit: true}, {your button}]}
Aug 06 18:00:05 <summatusmentis> I think
Aug 06 18:00:23 <HaDAk> i tried that at one point, and wasn't able to get it to work
Aug 06 18:00:38 <summatusmentis> that should fit the middle to whatever space is left after having the image take it's natural amount of space, and the button take it's natural amount of space
Aug 06 18:00:46 <summatusmentis> define "wasn't able to get it to work" ?
Aug 06 18:01:14 * scoutcamper mumbles something about #enyojs and this conversation belonging there
Aug 06 18:01:21 <summatusmentis> yeah
Aug 06 18:01:23 <summatusmentis> fair point
Aug 06 18:02:34 <EricBlade> HaDAk style: "float: right;"
Aug 06 18:02:44 <HaDAk> i trierd floating, but it dropped the button down
Aug 06 18:02:59 <HaDAk> it's fine for now
Aug 06 18:03:03 * HaDAk looks at scoutcamper 
Aug 06 20:35:14 <bhuey> folks
Aug 06 20:38:06 <RagingMind> g'day, bhuey
Aug 06 20:40:09 <ka6sox> bhuey
Aug 06 20:40:31 <ka6sox> when poor rrix has time we will continue on the packaging stuffs.
Aug 06 20:46:50 <ka6sox> I think the right way to do packaging of this is to create a new  "Type" for preware core-app(give me suggestions on names) for preware and set a flag that reboots LSM
Aug 06 20:46:57 <ka6sox> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Packaging_Standards
Aug 06 20:47:44 <ka6sox> comments?
Aug 06 20:49:06 <ka6sox> and set PostInstallFlags, PostUpdateFlags, and PostRemoveFlags to RestartLuna
Aug 06 20:50:57 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: System Components?
Aug 06 20:51:09 <destinal> ka6sox: well for stuff like this we tend to restart the device and perform an action on boot, unless--  do you know if renaming the running lunasysmgr will not cause problems?
Aug 06 20:51:25 <ka6sox> it will blow up
Aug 06 20:51:31 <ka6sox> (it has for me)
Aug 06 20:51:39 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, it has to be named LunaSysMgr or it gives permission errors
Aug 06 20:52:17 <ka6sox> so rrix and I worked on modifying the upstart for LSM to check for the presence of a replacement LSM
Aug 06 20:52:21 <ka6sox> and do the swap for us.
Aug 06 20:52:51 <ka6sox> its not pretty...but till I find a better method we can use this.
Aug 06 20:53:08 <destinal> so yeah its' either that or the method we use for the kernel which is on boot
Aug 06 20:53:17 <destinal> (I think)
Aug 06 20:53:40 <ka6sox> not necessary to go all the way down...much better to only go  half way down.
Aug 06 20:53:46 <destinal> the downside of modifying the LSM start script is that we're editing existing startup scripts
Aug 06 20:54:04 <destinal> where I think with most stuff currently we add new ones but don't modify HP's
Aug 06 20:54:34 <ka6sox> destinal, I would have liked to not mod it...but given what happens when you do the replacement, this is the most sane way I could find.
Aug 06 20:55:23 <destinal> let me look at bit more at the kernel method we're doing.  A one-time reboot isn't really that expensive if it keeps things much cleaner
Aug 06 20:56:33 <ka6sox> its unnecessary
Aug 06 20:56:50 <ka6sox> linux only should reboot for a kernel change.
Aug 06 20:59:10 <GodGinrai> ok, so let me make sure I understand this correctly, how does changing startup scripts allow you to replace LSM w/o reboot?
Aug 06 21:01:03 <ShiftyAxel> a thought for future consideration, what do you guys reckon about hijacking the software update app for this stuff instead of using preware?
Aug 06 21:01:20 <ShiftyAxel> since HP isn't going to be providing anything further throught it, it's pretty much useless as-is
Aug 06 21:01:47 <ka6sox> GodGinrai, we don't have to do a full reboot
Aug 06 21:02:01 <ka6sox> GodGinrai, we need to get lunasysmgr not running to replace it
Aug 06 21:02:48 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, we don't have the infrastructure to use the OTA/Software Update method.
Aug 06 21:03:15 <GodGinrai> I realize that.  How does changing the startup scripts accomplish this?
Aug 06 21:04:01 <ka6sox> it allows me to create a method of replacing the LSM binary while LSM is not running.
Aug 06 21:05:07 <GodGinrai> and it's a permanent one-time change to the startup scripts?
Aug 06 21:09:34 <ka6sox> I could make it a 1 time change that gets reverted @ the end of the process...but that is getting complicated.
Aug 06 21:11:47 <GodGinrai> yea, I came up w/ that idea, too, which is why I was making sure of what you were suggesting.  If it is reverted, I don't see much problem w/ changing the scripts temporarily.
Aug 06 21:13:11 <ka6sox> this would be simpler if it were a full reboot as then you could force the removal bit to just run @ the end
Aug 06 21:13:26 <ka6sox> but that takes about 5 minutes to do...each time
Aug 06 21:15:46 <destinal> ka6sox: yeah I guess in the early stages of testing this that could be rather inconvenient
Aug 06 21:16:41 <ka6sox> destinal, this is why I'm asking
Aug 06 21:17:04 <ka6sox> GodGinrai, it turns out this change is idempotent
Aug 06 21:17:10 <ka6sox> but not as secure as I would like
Aug 06 21:18:28 <GodGinrai> idempotent?  I'm having trouble recognizing that word
Aug 06 21:23:16 <ShiftyAxel> idempotent: denoting an element of a set which is unchanged in value when multiplied or otherwise operated on by itself.
Aug 06 21:24:05 <ShiftyAxel> GodGinrai ^
Aug 06 21:25:04 <GodGinrai> ah, thx
Aug 06 21:26:04 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox uses big words, makes me glad i have a gesture for looking them up :P
Aug 06 21:26:47 <ka6sox> means you can run it as often as you like...it will *only* have one outcome
Aug 06 21:28:11 <ka6sox> I am thinking about calling the types OsApp and OsLib
Aug 06 21:28:39 <ka6sox> and setting LunaRestart Flags for them
Aug 06 21:29:30 <ka6sox> rrix, found the bug in our replacement upstart
Aug 06 21:38:23 <ShiftyAxel> hmm... does anyone else's brightness fluctuate slightly when swiping through cards? it's really subtle, but noticeable if you do it fast
Aug 06 21:38:27 <EricBlade1> ka6sox and rwhitby are really english majors
Aug 06 21:38:43 <ShiftyAxel> I think it's something to do with the card dimming
Aug 06 21:39:36 <GodGinrai> I don't notice it on my Pre3
Aug 06 21:40:04 <EricBlade1> ShiftyAxel: while i was actually using my touchpad out in the wild, i was getting accidental triggers of the swipes while keyboarding
Aug 06 21:40:38 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade1: I saw it in the logs, pull request has been updated with a fix :)
Aug 06 21:40:57 <EricBlade1> oh awesome. how'd you adjust it?
Aug 06 21:41:13 <ShiftyAxel> GodGinrai: I think it only affects the TP, since 2.x doesn't dim unfocused cards
Aug 06 21:41:51 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: I implimented a feature from the flick gestures that I meant to, but had evidently forgotten
Aug 06 21:42:23 <ShiftyAxel> When the keyboard is up, the trigger distance is increased from 15 to 60px
Aug 06 21:43:09 <EricBlade1> i was also thinking, now that i've been using it on my personal pad for a little while, i'm wondering if maybe the search icon shouldn't go between the notification area and the system icons
Aug 06 21:43:21 <EricBlade1> *should* go
Aug 06 21:44:35 <EricBlade1> having it to the left of the notification area means it's sliding around weirdly when banner notifications happen
Aug 06 21:45:11 <ShiftyAxel> aww, I was proud of it's dynamic movement :P
Aug 06 21:45:23 <ShiftyAxel> but I do see where you're coming from
Aug 06 21:45:41 <EricBlade1> up to you, i'll get used to it
Aug 06 21:46:12 <EricBlade1> oh.. got another bug for you
Aug 06 21:46:12 * ka6sox remembers sliding UI in Filemaker Pro....hated it...
Aug 06 21:46:34 <ShiftyAxel> I'd happily change it to that... if it wouldn't break it
Aug 06 21:46:35 <EricBlade1> need to close Exhibition when opening the Just Type
Aug 06 21:49:00 <GodGinrai> ahhh, are phonecalls supposed to kick me off IRC in wIRC?
Aug 06 21:49:06 <GodGinrai> *uhhh
Aug 06 21:49:37 <RagingMind> GodGinrai, that depends on your phone prover/technology
Aug 06 21:49:44 <RagingMind> and if you're on wifi
Aug 06 21:49:52 <ShiftyAxel> currently StatusBar.cpp can't access preferences, at least not at the point where the status bar is created, so the notifications layout would be constantly shifted 48px left if I put it between the notifications and sysmenu (currently disabling it just d
Aug 06 21:49:52 <ShiftyAxel> isables the draw and activate methods)
Aug 06 21:50:03 <GodGinrai> Verizon's, and not on wifi
Aug 06 21:51:47 <ShiftyAxel> exhibition mode can be fixed however, I'll do that when I'm back at my laptop
Aug 06 21:52:41 <EricBlade1> hmm. Samsung doing a WP device now? or did they always do WP devices
Aug 06 21:52:51 <ka6sox> GodGinrai, destinal, so bring it all the way down?
Aug 06 21:54:37 <GodGinrai> bring what all the way down?  I was d/ced a minute ago, so I might have missed what you were saying
Aug 06 22:01:51 * ShiftyAxel is also confused
Aug 06 22:03:04 <ka6sox> bring the TP all the way down with a restart, or just luna restart
Aug 06 22:04:46 <EricBlade1> break it downs ir
Aug 06 22:04:49 <EricBlade1> *down sir
Aug 06 22:05:26 <EricBlade1> i need to get my left hand looked at by a professional, i can't type for crap anymore and my left ring finger has ows.
Aug 06 22:05:53 <ka6sox> do they curl? (your last 2 fingers)
Aug 06 22:11:47 <EricBlade1> yeah they work fine.  but the ring hurts when i type, or apparently while i clean the kitchen
Aug 06 22:24:12 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, its a 1 line change (well that and a new script)...but while I am developing I can't wait 5 minutes for the device to restart everytime.
Aug 06 22:28:36 <GodGinrai> does this channel have some recall bot?
Aug 06 22:29:02 <EricBlade1> between shifty and i we recall most things
Aug 06 22:29:28 <ShiftyAxel> that and there are logs available
Aug 06 22:29:40 <EricBlade1> i can't vouch for how accurately we recall them :)
Aug 06 22:29:44 <rrix> Hi hackers
Aug 06 22:29:50 <ShiftyAxel> http://bit.ly/OPkubR
Aug 06 22:30:16 <halfhalo> ruhroh
Aug 06 22:30:20 <halfhalo> rrix is back
Aug 06 22:30:28 <rrix> liar
Aug 06 22:30:32 <rrix> Only my name is back
Aug 06 22:30:35 <rrix> my head is still in my bed
Aug 06 22:30:46 <rrix> halfhalo: Definitely wasn't awake for that meeting at 10:00... :x
Aug 06 22:30:52 <halfhalo> lol
Aug 06 22:31:19 <rrix> Definitely wasn't awake for lunch either
Aug 06 22:33:17 <halfhalo> lol
Aug 06 22:37:40 <ka6sox> hi back
Aug 06 22:37:48 <ka6sox> so...rrix
Aug 06 22:37:57 <rrix> so
Aug 06 22:38:09 <halfhalo> pie
Aug 06 22:38:19 <ka6sox> when you are coherent...can you paste the upstart script...
Aug 06 22:38:46 <rrix> It isn't in my gifhub?
Aug 06 22:39:18 <ka6sox> got link?
Aug 06 22:39:44 <rrix> master of git@github.com:rrix/woce-build.git
Aug 06 22:39:55 * rrix pulls up webui url
Aug 06 22:40:22 * ka6sox just clicked on this and said WTH....
Aug 06 22:41:17 <rrix> https://raw.github.com/rrix/woce-build/master/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr/LunaSysMgr_event
Aug 06 22:41:20 <rrix> brb
Aug 06 22:43:24 <ka6sox> rrix, I am wrong..this should "just work"
Aug 06 22:44:09 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: got the exibition fix sorted, but it doesn't go straight to just type, it goes back to whatever you had onscreen before triggering exhibition then suddenly switches to just type without animation
Aug 06 22:44:19 <ShiftyAxel> reckon i should just make it exit, or leave as-is?
Aug 06 22:45:43 <rrix> ka6sox: It should, we just have to make sure it does :)
Aug 06 22:46:34 <ka6sox> time to instrument this up
Aug 06 22:48:41 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: oops, didn't see you disappeared there
Aug 06 22:48:44 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: got the exibition fix sorted, but it doesn't go straight to just type, it goes back to whatever you had onscreen before triggering exhibition then suddenly switches to just type without animation
Aug 06 22:49:00 <ShiftyAxel> reckon i should keep it that way or just make the search icon leave exhibition
Aug 06 22:49:03 <ShiftyAxel> ?
Aug 06 22:49:16 <EricBlade> i'd like to be able to swipe from exhibition
Aug 06 22:49:43 <ka6sox> rrix, let me look @ the prerm and postinst's too...then we should pass it on to dtzWill
Aug 06 22:50:03 <ka6sox> I think yours got into a funky state
Aug 06 22:50:29 <rrix> ok
Aug 06 22:50:46 <rrix> ka6sox: They're https://raw.github.com/rrix/woce-build/master/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr/control/prerm and
Aug 06 22:50:49 <EricBlade> how has the build progressed so far? or did focus change entirely to the install?
Aug 06 22:50:52 <rrix> https://raw.github.com/rrix/woce-build/master/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr/control/postinst
Aug 06 22:51:25 <rrix> EricBlade: I plan to fiddle with it and get everything in to shape today since I'm not going to work
Aug 06 22:51:32 <ka6sox> rrix, found the bug
Aug 06 22:51:36 <rrix> ka6sox: oh?
Aug 06 22:51:38 <ka6sox> yup
Aug 06 22:51:47 <ka6sox> you are losing your controlling terminal
Aug 06 22:51:57 <rrix> :x
Aug 06 22:52:00 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: works for me, I'll push the fix
Aug 06 22:52:03 <rrix> It's in upstart, though
Aug 06 22:52:17 <ka6sox> /sbin/stop ${APPNAME}
Aug 06 22:52:28 <ka6sox> b00m...you are history
Aug 06 22:52:34 <rrix> In where?
Aug 06 22:52:52 <ka6sox> prerm
Aug 06 22:53:34 <ka6sox> so refactor the pin removal before and issue restart
Aug 06 22:53:56 <EricBlade> wow i just picked up my pre2 after a long time away from it.  good lord it's slow
Aug 06 22:54:03 <rrix> :x
Aug 06 22:54:33 <ka6sox> last line of PostInst:
Aug 06 22:54:41 <ka6sox> restart LSM
Aug 06 22:54:46 <EricBlade> i used to think the pre2 snap scrolled, but it doesn't, it just smooth scrolls really badly
Aug 06 22:59:08 <ka6sox> rrix, https://github.com/rrix/woce-build/blob/master/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr/Makefile
Aug 06 22:59:18 <ka6sox> line 90 s/web/OsApp/
Aug 06 23:00:12 <ka6sox> insert after 90:
Aug 06 23:01:00 <ka6sox> echo "\"PostInstallFlags\": \"RestartLuna\"," >> build/$(CONFIG)/$*/usr/palm/applications/${APP_ID}/appinfo.json
Aug 06 23:01:22 <ka6sox> echo "\"PostUpdateFlags\": \"RestartLuna\"," >> build/$(CONFIG)/$*/usr/palm/applications/${APP_ID}/appinfo.json
Aug 06 23:01:28 <rrix> me gusta
Aug 06 23:01:41 <ka6sox> echo "\"PostRemoveFlags\": \"RestartLuna\"," >> build/$(CONFIG)/$*/usr/palm/applications/${APP_ID}/appinfo.json
Aug 06 23:02:29 * rrix fires up vagrant
Aug 06 23:02:45 <ka6sox> that Bum...
Aug 06 23:03:32 <rrix> hehe
Aug 06 23:04:52 * ka6sox awaits the official word as to whether he got that right or not....
Aug 06 23:05:58 <ka6sox> the last 3 lines *should* tell Preware to pop up the "you must restart luna for thes changes to take place" button.
Aug 06 23:06:47 <ka6sox> scoutcamper, where did that iconfile go that I sent to the WOSI wiki for this?
Aug 06 23:07:10 <ka6sox> s/I/you/
Aug 06 23:07:10 <WoceBot> ka6sox meant: scoutcamper, where did that iconfile go that you sent to the WOSI wiki for this?
Aug 06 23:07:22 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, http://www.webos-internals.org/images/2/2c/LunaComunityEdition.png
Aug 06 23:07:37 <ka6sox> rrix, there is the official one.
Aug 06 23:08:12 * ka6sox 's perfect record is unbroken....
Aug 06 23:08:26 <halfhalo> wawawaaaaaaaa
Aug 06 23:09:10 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: in mojo apps? [shamelessplug]do you have Mojo Smooth Scrolling installed?[/shamelessplug]
Aug 06 23:12:35 <ka6sox> rrix, can you push up to see if I messed up?
Aug 06 23:12:37 <EricBlade> ShiftyAxel: in luna
Aug 06 23:13:13 <EricBlade> if i try to scroll to the bottom of the installed apps list, it goes like.. jerk.. jerk.. jerk.. *scrolls at bottom*
Aug 06 23:13:32 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: eee, that's not so good. reminds me of the 1.4.5 days
Aug 06 23:14:01 <EricBlade> dammit. my pre+ is still luna-ce'd.
Aug 06 23:14:36 <tyrok> Anyone have any luck with that 32-bit build script I posted?
Aug 06 23:18:01 <LarrySteeze> me stumbles into the room and accidentally crashed into ka6sox,  Ericblade, ShiftyAxel, halfhalo, and tyrok
Aug 06 23:18:20 * ShiftyAxel falls off his chair
Aug 06 23:18:27 <ShiftyAxel> morning LarrySteeze
Aug 06 23:18:30 <ka6sox> LarrySteeze, that sounds more like a drunk driver...
Aug 06 23:18:39 <LarrySteeze> ehh
Aug 06 23:18:48 <LarrySteeze> not drunk, and i'm certainly not driving
Aug 06 23:18:49 <ka6sox> j/k
Aug 06 23:18:56 <ka6sox> driving a keyboard!
Aug 06 23:18:59 <rrix> ka6sox: my computer is all "hang on i'm out of memory because VM"
Aug 06 23:19:01 <LarrySteeze> sure...
Aug 06 23:19:08 <LarrySteeze> rrix: I know the feeling
Aug 06 23:20:27 <ShiftyAxel> my keyboard's awesome for powerslides
Aug 06 23:25:36 <ka6sox> another thing a Model M is good for!
Aug 06 23:30:20 <rrix> ok, I quit
Aug 06 23:30:23 <rrix> brb reboot
Aug 06 23:31:23 <ka6sox> I quit?
Aug 06 23:31:30 <ka6sox> not a good sound :(
Aug 06 23:42:08 * ka6sox wonders if rrix got caught in a flash flood.
Aug 06 23:46:48 <ShiftyAxel> I think it's time to hit the hay, nn all!
Aug 06 23:47:02 * ShiftyAxel powerslides out of the room on his keyboard
Aug 06 23:48:29 <ka6sox> nite ShiftyAxel
Aug 06 23:48:39 <LarrySteeze> adios ShiftyAxel
Aug 06 23:48:46 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, is EricBlade's  LR patch ready to go?
Aug 06 23:48:49 <ka6sox> and IN?
Aug 06 23:49:17 * ka6sox thinks he powerslid off into la la land.
Aug 06 23:49:21 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: it sure is
Aug 06 23:49:26 <ka6sox> w00t!
Aug 06 23:49:30 * ShiftyAxel continues sliding off into the sunset
Aug 06 23:49:39 <ka6sox> that was HOURS ago...
Aug 07 00:13:16 <ka6sox> rwhitby, how do we get 2 new types into preware? OS-Applications and OS-Libararies?
Aug 07 01:07:50 <scoutcamper> rrix, what was the magic command to build ipk's?
Aug 07 01:16:14 <ka6sox> make woce package
Aug 07 01:18:03 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, thanks
Aug 07 01:18:27 <rwhitby> that didn't work for me
Aug 07 01:20:38 <ka6sox> hmmm
Aug 07 01:20:48 <ka6sox> then I missed what he did
Aug 07 01:20:54 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, that command runs correctly but i dont get a ipk anywhere
Aug 07 01:21:04 * ka6sox rewinds the tape from yesterday
Aug 07 01:21:23 <rwhitby> scoutcamper: "make woce package" completes without an error for you?
Aug 07 01:21:33 <scoutcamper> rwhitby, correct.
Aug 07 01:21:36 <rwhitby> You don't get "make: *** No rule to make target `package'.  Stop." ?
Aug 07 01:21:37 <scoutcamper> rwhitby, using woce-be
Aug 07 01:21:41 <scoutcamper> correct
Aug 07 01:21:52 <rwhitby> what is woce-be?
Aug 07 01:21:57 <scoutcamper> vagrant
Aug 07 01:22:02 <scoutcamper> our all in one build env
Aug 07 01:22:19 <rwhitby> and which woce-build repo and branch?
Aug 07 01:22:43 <scoutcamper> rrix/woce-build master branch
Aug 07 01:23:10 <rwhitby> please pastebin your log from "Build Success!  New LunaSysMgr available at:" to the completion of the make session
Aug 07 01:23:26 <ka6sox> woce-be is a standard build environment with nothing more that is what needed to build.
Aug 07 01:23:49 <rwhitby> woce-be doesn't affect whether the Makefile has a "package" target or not
Aug 07 01:23:56 <ka6sox> right
Aug 07 01:24:15 <ka6sox> https://github.com/rrix/woce-build/blob/master/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr/Makefile
Aug 07 01:24:19 <scoutcamper> rwhitby, i appologize, the -j8 argument seems to have skipped that error
Aug 07 01:24:35 <LarrySteeze> Should I delete the kernel note or leave it?
Aug 07 01:24:38 <scoutcamper> it built with -j8 by bypassing the error
Aug 07 01:24:46 <LarrySteeze> sorry
Aug 07 01:24:49 <scoutcamper> with no -j8 it errors
Aug 07 01:24:58 <LarrySteeze> meant for my linux channel
Aug 07 01:25:03 <rwhitby> scoutcamper: are you sure make completed successfully, it should report an error at the end even with -j8
Aug 07 01:25:26 <ka6sox> LarrySteeze, ?
Aug 07 01:25:41 <rwhitby> scoutcamper: please pastebin the log, cause failure to report that error would be a serious make bug
Aug 07 01:25:53 <LarrySteeze> ka6sox: meant for #debian
Aug 07 01:26:12 <scoutcamper> rwhitby, it reports error but keeps going. http://pastebin.com/CzcCy3cW
Aug 07 01:27:02 <rwhitby> scoutcamper: what is the exit status of the command?
Aug 07 01:27:25 * rwhitby notes that this is why he never does -jN when testing something
Aug 07 01:28:11 <scoutcamper> rwhitby, exit status 2
Aug 07 01:28:22 <rwhitby> ok, good. at least it got that right
Aug 07 01:28:23 * scoutcamper makes a note to ditch the -j*
Aug 07 01:29:07 <ka6sox> didn't finish right then
Aug 07 01:29:14 <scoutcamper> yup
Aug 07 01:30:22 * scoutcamper looks at rrix 
Aug 07 01:30:48 <ka6sox> he fell into a storm drain
Aug 07 01:34:47 <ka6sox> okay i see why now
Aug 07 01:35:01 <ka6sox> he hasn't pushed up the latest (unless my browser is caching)
Aug 07 01:35:40 <ka6sox> aha
Aug 07 02:23:01 <ka6sox> rrix, did you get back up?
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