**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 07 02:59:59 2012 Aug 07 03:26:51 finally done with most of the back to school shopping insanity Aug 07 03:27:15 so, working on packaging? Aug 07 03:27:31 yep Aug 07 03:27:41 rrix died.... Aug 07 03:27:50 destinal, i dont go back to school for like 3 weeks. i havent started yet :P Aug 07 03:27:51 I think we might have to pick up and carry on... Aug 07 04:18:18 destinal, are you able to go to any islands? Aug 07 06:26:07 * rrix holds his head Aug 07 06:26:23 Sorry everyone, recovering from a weekend of not enough sleep :x Aug 07 06:26:39 ka6sox: you still awake? Aug 07 06:27:01 :( Shit, you guys were blocking on me Aug 07 06:27:06 scoutcamper|away: make CONFIG=woce package Aug 07 06:29:58 ka6sox: my latest is definitely pushed :x Aug 07 07:12:21 This photo is incredible https://plus.google.com/photos/108952536790629690817/albums/5773594317590969377/5773594316950561682 Aug 07 07:12:36 The MRO caught the MSL as it was coming down Aug 07 07:34:24 rrix: !!!! :D :D Hi! Aug 07 07:34:49 * dkirker is fighting with a stupid Linksys wireless router. Aug 07 07:34:54 I think that it is dying. :( Aug 07 09:49:03 folks Aug 07 09:49:11 * bhuey back from a day of driving around the bay area Aug 07 11:43:52 good afternoon Aug 07 11:43:56 good afternoon Aug 07 11:44:14 hey :) Aug 07 11:44:32 swisstomcat: https://plus.google.com/113386402913695079840/posts/AeWgdNikXBP - blog to come :) Aug 07 11:45:44 interesting Aug 07 11:45:59 swisstomcat: long story short: use hardware adaptations made for android on non-android systems Aug 07 11:46:02 especially the "mer on top of android" part Aug 07 11:46:10 yeah Aug 07 11:46:34 could really change the way ecosystem/environment for non-android OS'es look Aug 07 11:46:41 could be interesting/helpful for other OS'es as well Aug 07 11:46:44 yes Aug 07 11:47:06 the aim is to start out in mer with it, the library being open source, and let community go nuts with it Aug 07 11:47:35 as that's only way to get it stable and sane in a short time Aug 07 12:41:52 morning all Aug 07 13:43:35 morning Aug 07 14:10:20 rrix, ping Aug 07 14:10:58 ssssh....don't wake him up Aug 07 14:11:05 rrix, on your woce-build repo. http://pastebin.com/KxnqEd2m Aug 07 14:11:10 ka6sox, :P Aug 07 14:11:28 sending info so he sees it when he is alive Aug 07 14:12:13 does one eye open constitute "alive" Aug 07 14:12:56 if both hands work for typing, then yes Aug 07 14:13:11 lol Aug 07 14:13:33 one hand is preparing coffee Aug 07 14:13:44 heh Aug 07 14:34:38 bigbluehat, several people report that vagrant is "finicky" and doesn't always start up... Aug 07 14:34:48 any ideas? Aug 07 14:35:11 maybe he's moved on to greener pastures? :) Aug 07 14:35:30 no idea off hand...would need to know what "finicky" means Aug 07 14:36:00 like, does he complain about the food? ignore you? spit in your eye? Aug 07 14:37:57 I will gather up better information... Aug 07 14:38:10 seems like an ingrate to me... Aug 07 14:38:30 yeah...for sure... Aug 07 14:38:47 also you have convinced me to use Chef as it allows for anonymous updates. Aug 07 14:38:55 oh, nice! Aug 07 14:38:59 lol Aug 07 14:39:18 Puppet wanted me to be all connected and KNOWN. Aug 07 14:39:59 somehow the Terms "Chef" and Vagrant seem out of place together. Aug 07 14:44:05 soup kitchen? Aug 07 14:45:04 hey guys, is it normal for HTML entities to not evaluate in the notifications? Aug 07 14:50:26 GodGinrai, dunno Aug 07 14:50:31 ShiftyAxel, excellent. Aug 07 14:50:37 can't say I've ever seen any Aug 07 14:51:07 the most complicated stuff i've ever seen in a notification is a set of buttons Aug 07 14:56:42 well, when I receive text messages, if they have apostrophes, they are just displayed as &apos Aug 07 14:57:07 when I get the notification Aug 07 15:04:24 i'll test it on mine and see what happens Aug 07 15:05:50 apostrophes appear w/no issues on my Pre3 2.2.4 Aug 07 15:06:07 though it may have something to do with the network again, you said you were on VZW, right? Aug 07 15:07:33 yea Aug 07 15:10:25 I'm GSM myself, but don't know enough about the different systems to be able to confirm/deny Aug 07 16:35:29 scoutcamper: pong Aug 07 16:36:13 * rrix looks Aug 07 16:37:32 awww Aug 07 16:37:45 scoutcamper: I feel bad, I've been out of my mind the last few days and keep giving you shitty directions Aug 07 16:37:57 rrix, no problem Aug 07 16:38:08 scoutcamper: run it in woce-build/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr Aug 07 16:38:32 I have a feeling I'm sick-ish Aug 07 16:38:53 * scoutcamper puts up a firewall. Aug 07 16:38:58 i just got done being sick :P Aug 07 16:39:02 I'm tost... Aug 07 16:39:05 toast Aug 07 16:39:11 * rrix eats ka6sox for breakfast Aug 07 16:41:20 yaaay Aug 07 16:41:21 it built Aug 07 16:42:24 wewt Aug 07 16:42:38 * rrix looks at the status of his local repo Aug 07 16:42:57 now to track down that pesky touchpad Aug 07 16:43:46 I think ka6sox had a few things for me to change last night that I didn't get the chance to test Aug 07 16:48:03 it appears to have installed Aug 07 16:48:09 i dont see a desktop icon though Aug 07 16:50:24 * scoutcamper bbl Aug 07 16:50:47 rrix, did you get the last changes in? Aug 07 16:50:50 hi sugardave Aug 07 16:51:08 or do I need to copy them back in? Aug 07 16:51:28 ka6sox: I have them locally, I want to test them in case they derp all over the device Aug 07 16:51:38 testing terblet is charging atm Aug 07 16:52:28 just push them up...testing is for everyone :D Aug 07 16:53:14 (and if they derp its MY fault anyways) Aug 07 16:53:19 heh, ok :) Aug 07 16:53:37 * ka6sox blames ka6sox Aug 07 16:54:15 the github client for windows is lame. Aug 07 16:54:23 (that is all) Aug 07 16:56:18 did I hear 'testing'? Aug 07 16:56:26 * ShiftyAxel is bored out of his face and needs something to so Aug 07 16:56:27 *do Aug 07 16:57:13 once rrix pushes up his fixes (and I review for stupid errors I introduced)...we should build with that. Aug 07 16:57:22 build against master Aug 07 16:57:34 (of LunaSysMgr) Aug 07 16:58:06 ka6sox: hey hey Aug 07 16:58:15 then checkout your mishmash branch and run it again. Aug 07 16:58:29 then see if you can brick it :D Aug 07 16:58:51 how goes it sugardave Aug 07 16:59:43 first run should give us a "recovery" Aug 07 16:59:52 second run should include features. Aug 07 16:59:53 right? Aug 07 17:00:28 Just pushed Aug 07 17:00:43 Sorry, I'm still pretty fucking braindead, narced up on pills Aug 07 17:00:49 ka6sox: pretty good, been out of IRC for a while and finally got irssi set up on this Mac Aug 07 17:00:51 wheeeeee Aug 07 17:01:00 eggcellent Aug 07 17:01:10 rrix, lemme go look. Aug 07 17:02:59 I dunno how preware is going to parse osApp as Type Aug 07 17:03:18 but otherwise it looks really good. Aug 07 17:03:25 heh Aug 07 17:03:28 You told me to do that :P Aug 07 17:03:30 what are you guys working on? Aug 07 17:03:38 sugardave, packaging Aug 07 17:03:39 sugardave: LSM-CE packaging Aug 07 17:03:43 sweet Aug 07 17:04:03 rrix, yes, I know...I just don't know if its case insensitive or not Aug 07 17:04:04 My battery on my test device is 5% :x Aug 07 17:04:07 ka6sox: ahhh Aug 07 17:04:46 ShiftyAxel, https://github.com/rrix/woce-build Aug 07 17:05:04 use that against lsm-ce Aug 07 17:05:19 build master and see if it blows up. Aug 07 17:05:50 if it does...blame me Aug 07 17:06:19 ka6sox: is there any way we can get make CONFIG=foo package in woce-build/ to iterate through the packages directories and package thangs? Aug 07 17:06:29 I don't know make well enough to be of any use there :\ Aug 07 17:06:34 Make is so obtuse Aug 07 17:07:06 the top level make has that abstraction...we just pulled out packaging when it was broken initially Aug 07 17:07:27 so can be added back in. Aug 07 17:07:39 so woce-package: Aug 07 17:08:03 would build and package from the top level Aug 07 17:08:26 I leave that level of wizardry for dtzWill and others. Aug 07 17:08:51 yup Aug 07 17:09:40 make woce -j3ing from inside it now Aug 07 17:10:20 COol Aug 07 17:10:33 I'll have another set of testing eyes on it when my tablet hits charge point Aug 07 17:14:32 I really dislike how long the TP takes to hit 'alive' after running out of battery, even if you're only -just- too late plugging it in Aug 07 17:16:38 yup Aug 07 17:16:53 Worst part is that I'm charging it off a 500mA plug :( Aug 07 17:17:07 I need to steal one of phated's high wattage adapters so that I have two Aug 07 17:17:14 since he has like 6 touchpads now :x Aug 07 17:25:41 man it's too early in the day Aug 07 17:30:36 * ka6sox looks for mushroom clouds out east. Aug 07 17:32:54 ShiftyAxel, did this blow up? Aug 07 17:32:58 you diappeared. Aug 07 17:33:37 14% battery is enough to go, right? Aug 07 17:34:10 usually Aug 07 17:35:37 palm-install doesn't like this thing Aug 07 17:35:53 2012-08-07T17:35:21.819471Z [2182] webos-device user.err ApplicationInstallerUtility: Non zero exit code from ipkg install Aug 07 17:38:14 ka6sox: so.... remember on Sunday how I couldn't get any new packges to work, like it was caching the control scripts or something? Aug 07 17:38:26 [master] ⚡$ ls org.webos-community-edition.lunasysmgr-ce* Aug 07 17:38:27 org.webos-community-edition.lunasysmgr-ce_0.0.1_armv7.ipk org.webos-community-edition.lunasysmgr-ce-woce_0.0.1_armv7.ipk Aug 07 17:38:31 Guess which one i was installing Aug 07 17:38:49 d0h! Aug 07 17:39:29 oh I just realized another faux paux I did... Aug 07 17:39:43 org.webosports.lunasysmgrce Aug 07 17:39:58 since webosports exists Aug 07 17:40:24 webo-sports, eh? Aug 07 17:41:33 HadAk, Web 'o Sports Aug 07 17:41:41 that'd be it Aug 07 17:42:27 i just got a call from the company i've been interviewing with. they want me to come in tomorrow for a 4th interview, with 5 people, from 9am-1pm. Aug 07 17:42:28 yeesh. Aug 07 17:43:00 4 interviews....damn, that's rough Aug 07 17:43:18 ka6sox: DIdn't trigger a Luna restart ;x Aug 07 17:43:19 :x Aug 07 17:43:30 wouldn't be so bad if i wasn't sick, with a giant lip wound Aug 07 17:43:35 chest cold, at that Aug 07 17:43:36 ugh Aug 07 17:43:55 look @ the upstart script? Aug 07 17:44:42 brb coffee Aug 07 17:44:51 rrix, Good Plan(tm) Aug 07 17:45:25 wait...you were doing all this *before* coffee? Aug 07 17:46:06 maybe it's coffee round 3 Aug 07 17:46:23 lets hope so... Aug 07 17:56:37 the postinst looks fine...what am I missing Aug 07 17:57:00 rrix, do a manual luna restart Aug 07 17:57:51 it could be that preware is needs to know about osApp before it will process the RestartLuna directive Aug 07 17:58:37 s/is// Aug 07 17:58:37 ka6sox meant: it could be that preware needs to know about osApp before it will process the RestartLuna directive Aug 07 18:00:31 * ka6sox hasn't heard from ShiftyAxel...wonders if he fell off the edge. Aug 07 18:11:38 ka6sox: That might be it Aug 07 18:15:51 * rrix restarts luna Aug 07 18:17:24 ka6sox: my pre-start script didn't install properly Aug 07 18:17:48 root@RyansHPTouchPad:/# md5sum /usr/bin/LunaSysMgr* /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webos-community-edition.lunasysmgr-ce/LunaSysMgr.bak Aug 07 18:17:50 af36403785f762868bc08e10070ec705 /usr/bin/LunaSysMgr Aug 07 18:17:51 8b1a76f5fd64b17d4c14ca01c1f70dbd /usr/bin/LunaSysMgr.new Aug 07 18:17:53 af36403785f762868bc08e10070ec705 /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webos-community-edition.lunasysmgr-ce/LunaSysMgr.bak Aug 07 18:18:15 I'm thinking we might have to install the event.d file in postinst and force / to readwrite Aug 07 18:18:23 I don't think ipkg is doing that Aug 07 18:18:23 check /var/palm/event.d/LunaSysMgr Aug 07 18:18:29 ka6sox: it's the system version Aug 07 18:18:42 then the postinst failed... Aug 07 18:18:43 reading Aug 07 18:20:25 we're not installing the event script in postinst Aug 07 18:21:11 It's being added to the stage Aug 07 18:21:39 right Aug 07 18:21:48 we forgot to include it in the image Aug 07 18:21:56 during package Aug 07 18:22:17 ergh Aug 07 18:23:16 you forgot to hook up the doll Aug 07 18:24:10 something liket hat Aug 07 18:24:19 * rrix $dayjob brb Aug 07 18:24:23 kk Aug 07 18:31:17 random question: can Google process SQL requests on their input line? Aug 07 18:33:34 for...? Aug 07 18:33:59 having a hard time figuring out how I would do that... Aug 07 18:39:30 What do you mean, ka6sox? Aug 07 18:41:09 mostly having to do with exclusions Aug 07 18:44:00 do you mean in something like Google Docs/spreadsheet or something? Aug 07 18:59:37 So, just curious, how much effort is being put into getting WOCE changes onto the phones? Aug 07 19:00:04 Zero Aug 07 19:00:40 Phones = WebOS 2.x Aug 07 19:00:56 TP = webOS 3.0.5 Aug 07 19:01:14 CE = FOR webOS 3.0.5 FOR the Touchpad. Aug 07 19:01:43 I realize that Aug 07 19:02:39 however I heard someone mention before that there had been some attempts at getting the WOCE changes to work for the phones Aug 07 19:03:26 oh right...there have been some experiments Aug 07 19:03:28 but zero answers my question, thank you Aug 07 19:05:49 CE is a mishmash of things... Aug 07 19:07:15 hmm. i notice that i no longer seem to get logs on my apps while using CE Aug 07 19:13:35 aha... Aug 07 19:19:22 GodGinrai: There are some people interested, and some efforts, but it is currently not a priority. Aug 07 19:19:40 ok Aug 07 20:30:00 ka6sox: gah, got sucked into gaming with some friends, apologies about that x_x Aug 07 20:30:21 the build worked for the record Aug 07 20:33:28 Ok, pretty sure it's time to doctor my primary TP :\ Aug 07 20:33:33 * rrix sighs Aug 07 20:38:36 did it create a ipkg that installed and ran? Aug 07 20:38:52 uh oh Aug 07 20:38:56 missed him... Aug 07 20:39:09 rrix, I know the feeling. Aug 07 20:39:14 ka6sox: It shouldn't have since that was the same one I had failed iwth Aug 07 20:39:21 * rrix is rebuilding servers pretty unsuccessfuly Aug 07 20:40:40 we need to add populating the image section for the event.d/LunaSysmgr_eventd Aug 07 20:40:51 yup Aug 07 20:41:05 similar to the control/postinst Aug 07 20:41:30 I thought that was handled by ipkg-build when I put that together Aug 07 20:43:01 I thought that anything in the files/ path would be put in as payload too...but doesn't seem to be Aug 07 20:44:39 Egh Aug 07 21:10:44 do we have a current combined build? Aug 07 21:11:37 i'm a little concerned about my developer device, and want to make sure i'm up to date if possible . i just ran an app, and it locked up Luna tight, so I restarted Luna and now it's hanging Aug 07 21:12:44 whoa something really weird happened. i can't open the framebuffer device Aug 07 21:12:47 reboot time Aug 07 21:14:27 EricBlade, working on a ipkg Aug 07 21:20:49 ka6sox: right, i'm back proper now. sorry about that, a whole bunch of stuff happened at once and it ended up being 'AAH QUICK POST CLOSE LAPTOP RUNAWAY' Aug 07 21:21:11 I didn't see any ipk, it produced a LSM in the usual output dir Aug 07 21:21:28 I'll have another poke, where would this IPK (in theory) be? Aug 07 21:21:54 the last line of the build should be "your ipk is BLAH" Aug 07 21:22:31 hi dukiedrew Aug 07 21:23:27 morning Aug 07 21:24:19 ShiftyAxel, how much longer till you pumpkin? Aug 07 21:24:45 o.o It's morning for you? where are you located? AU? Aug 07 21:25:19 ~ugt Aug 07 21:25:19 well, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Aug 07 21:25:27 woah, it worked. cool Aug 07 21:26:49 lol, I've been using IRC for years and never heard of this. It's a freenode thing, I'm guessing? Aug 07 21:27:39 ka6sox: i'll be around for around 15ish minutes, then i've gotta go for an hour but i should be about for another hour or so after that Aug 07 21:28:41 GodGinrai: west coast of US for now Aug 07 21:29:21 ah, k Aug 07 21:30:35 GodGinrai, with 24hr development and IRC...it got too confusing Aug 07 21:30:53 ShiftyAxel, kewl... Aug 07 21:31:29 ShiftyAxel, does my tabbed card stuff *crash* if it is merged in with the other stuff? Aug 07 21:31:33 or does it just not work Aug 07 21:31:49 dukiedrew: it's not so much the functioning as the merging itself Aug 07 21:32:10 the main merge issues are in SysContr, right? Aug 07 21:32:20 tabbed card? like browser tabs? Aug 07 21:32:26 yeah, in handleScreenEdgeFlickGesture Aug 07 21:32:40 as-is, the merge conflicts are messy Aug 07 21:32:57 so, can you just ignore my changes in that file (aside from the one Q_SIGNAL addition)? Aug 07 21:33:29 yeah, I think the trigger is the only thing that needs to be added Aug 07 21:33:51 yup Aug 07 21:33:52 well Aug 07 21:34:02 i have the preferences() calls in CardWindowManager Aug 07 21:34:22 anyway, if you can merge like that Aug 07 21:34:29 then i can take a looksee and make it completely work Aug 07 21:34:49 [ie building it into yours/EricBlade's stuff Aug 07 21:34:50 ] Aug 07 21:36:07 that sounds like a good plan, i'll take another poke at the source and see if i can plug it into the right methods Aug 07 21:36:22 ka6sox: where are we currently with regards to merging the pulls? Aug 07 21:37:20 hey, let's all pick one file, and then each of us will spend tomorrow re-writing it, individually. :) Aug 07 21:37:39 then we all submit it on thur Aug 07 21:38:03 dibs on luna animations Aug 07 21:38:03 I just don't want to have to re-do the tabbed cards stuff in the other main files Aug 07 21:38:05 oh wait :D Aug 07 21:38:06 oof Aug 07 21:38:19 wiat Aug 07 21:39:05 dukiedrew: yeah, that's fair enough. when I applied the diff from your pull it all went fine aside from SystemUiController and maybe Preferences, but that's pretty standard Aug 07 21:39:18 and it ran just fine, so the functionality was there, just not the trigger Aug 07 21:39:24 solid Aug 07 21:39:34 great Aug 07 21:39:37 and once that's all done Aug 07 21:39:46 i'll re-add the MT card pinching/grouping Aug 07 21:40:31 sweet, i liked the way you handled mouse event blocking in that btw, it'll be good to have that functionality for future multitouch stuff Aug 07 21:40:51 oh in that code? Aug 07 21:40:55 yeah and i kept it a little messy Aug 07 21:41:02 just b/c i knew you were doing some MT stuff too Aug 07 21:41:07 so i figued wait to see how you did it, then pretty it up :) Aug 07 21:41:28 my multitouch stuff ended up crashing and burning as it happens :P Aug 07 21:41:48 i've had some MT issues on the *first* touch Aug 07 21:41:55 but after that, all seemed well Aug 07 21:42:02 I tried rewriting CardWindowManager to use touch events, but they kept falling through and activating stuff when just type or menus were up Aug 07 21:42:06 i think i fixed it in my last version of that [not any pull requests] Aug 07 21:42:12 oh... Aug 07 21:42:16 never tested that :) Aug 07 21:42:35 perhaps you can disable the touch events when that is up Aug 07 21:43:11 hmm, where was that Aug 07 21:43:44 https://github.com/ShiftyAxel/LunaSysMgr/tree/luna-touch Aug 07 21:43:52 setAcceptTouchEvents(true); // required to accept any touch event. Aug 07 21:43:58 that function Aug 07 21:44:14 if justType comes up, perhaps cardwindowmanager could be set to false Aug 07 21:45:44 to be honest i think mouse events are good enough, i did further testing and they're just as responsive and it seems like it would need a lot of catches to stop fall-through. Aug 07 21:46:29 hmm, ok Aug 07 21:48:07 well, I gotta head out, cya guys Aug 07 21:48:45 bye Aug 07 21:48:53 bye GodGinrai_ Aug 07 21:55:47 dukiedrew: for the meantime could you update your pull request to remove the changes to SystemUiController.cpp? Aug 07 21:56:01 Also SystemUiController.h, but leave the new signal in there, that should be alright Aug 07 21:56:14 hmm Aug 07 21:56:25 can I just add commits that remove what I did? Aug 07 21:56:37 yeah, that'll be fine Aug 07 21:56:50 hopefully should get to that tonightish Aug 07 21:57:21 myself I'd checkout master, copypaste SystemUiController.cpp to somewhere safe, checkout the modified branch and paste the master one back into place Aug 07 21:57:30 cool, thanks :) Aug 07 22:13:28 LarrySteeze, wanna help me debug this packaging issue? Aug 07 22:13:36 it is probalby just 1 line Aug 07 22:13:47 emailing you an ipkg Aug 07 22:13:57 let me check it out Aug 07 22:14:12 put it in the media/internal from your host Aug 07 22:14:16 then call up preware... Aug 07 22:14:22 (or take it from the email) Aug 07 22:14:34 make sure you have novaterm open Aug 07 22:14:41 because we need to do some checking Aug 07 22:14:50 (in meeting with no access to TP) Aug 07 22:15:24 yeah, let me check it out Aug 07 22:16:51 I think what we will find out is that the LunaSysMgr_eventd is not where we think its being put in the ipkg so when it gets unpacked...the cp in postinst fails Aug 07 22:19:16 sorry, grabbed wrong TP Aug 07 22:19:17 brb Aug 07 22:19:29 kk Aug 07 22:28:40 Alright, I see Aug 07 22:28:44 give me a minute Aug 07 22:29:25 you will need to look in /media/cryptofs/.../apps/org.webos-community* Aug 07 22:29:27 for that file Aug 07 22:31:05 I already got that Aug 07 22:31:18 I'm trying to figure something out Aug 07 22:31:31 I thought I had novaterm on this machine Aug 07 22:31:57 wrong machine though. Give me a minute while I redownload it Aug 07 22:33:52 kk Aug 07 22:36:27 sometimes I love that I have a few systems running on this machine, but in cases like this, I hate it Aug 07 22:36:41 where I can't reboot so I have to install the same tools, just a different place Aug 07 22:37:31 it is interesting though, the "error" it's spitting out Aug 07 22:37:59 I'm not so sure it's actually placing the file Aug 07 22:38:21 paste the error? Aug 07 22:38:24 (or email it) Aug 07 22:39:32 I ran it without novaterm Aug 07 22:39:44 I can't paste it, it spit up for only a second Aug 07 22:39:54 okay what was the message? Aug 07 22:39:58 it was essentially that it couldn't start, after it finished Aug 07 22:40:04 start the proces Aug 07 22:40:06 *proces Aug 07 22:40:08 okay... Aug 07 22:40:09 ok, I can't type Aug 07 22:40:31 in /var/palm/event.d Aug 07 22:40:33 I'm assuming it's not starting because it's either 1. not replacing the file Aug 07 22:40:43 or 2. not receiving the permissions to replace it Aug 07 22:40:45 is there a LunaSysMgr_eventd? Aug 07 22:40:47 more on that in a minute Aug 07 22:41:14 wait...I'm an idiot Aug 07 22:41:28 in /etc/event.d is there a LunaSysMgr_eventd Aug 07 22:41:52 d0h! Aug 07 22:43:05 the key is where LunaSysMgr_eventd is located in /media/cryptofs/.../apps/org.webos-community* Aug 07 22:44:01 give me a moment Aug 07 22:50:50 ok, I was misreading the error Aug 07 22:51:34 cp: can't stat '/media/crpytofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webos-community-edition.lunasysmgr-ce/LunaSysMgr_eventd': No such file or directory Aug 07 22:51:53 the cause is exactly the same as I assumed. The file does not exist. Aug 07 22:53:37 it doesn't create the org.webos-community-edition.lunasysmgr-ce directory at all (or even with improper caps) Aug 07 22:54:26 though the cp command should create it Aug 07 23:01:47 so that means its not being put where ipkg-utils can package it up Aug 07 23:01:57 right Aug 07 23:02:18 in fact Aug 07 23:02:23 when rrix has time...lets see if we can get a copy of his upstart script Aug 07 23:02:25 as far as I can tell, it's not putting it anywhere Aug 07 23:02:54 the post inst should be idempotent Aug 07 23:04:05 if we can get his upstart script, we put it in /media/crpytofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webos-community-edition.lunasysmgr-ce/files/etc/event.d/LunaSysMgr_eventd Aug 07 23:04:19 manually run the postinst Aug 07 23:04:29 see that it puts it where it belongs (replacing the original Aug 07 23:04:30 ) Aug 07 23:04:41 and issue a luna restart (manually) Aug 07 23:05:00 this will mean once we get the package creation issue fixed...it will *just work* Aug 07 23:06:23 in theory Aug 07 23:06:48 I'm wrong Aug 07 23:06:51 cp ${APPDIR}/LunaSysMgr_eventd /etc/event.d/LunaSysMgr Aug 07 23:07:04 it expects it in the root of the appdir Aug 07 23:08:04 so place it there, Aug 07 23:08:12 run the postinst manually Aug 07 23:08:27 verify it got replaced Aug 07 23:08:37 (via md5sum) Aug 07 23:08:45 restart luna Aug 07 23:13:48 ka6sox: my upstart script is in Gifhub... Aug 07 23:14:08 https://github.com/rrix/woce-build/blob/master/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr/LunaSysMgr_event Aug 07 23:14:16 what is gifhub? sounds like a waste of time :P Aug 07 23:14:25 scoutcamper: Collaborative image macro editing :P Aug 07 23:15:27 LarrySteeze, use the raw and put it on the device as th right name Aug 07 23:15:34 run the scipt... Aug 07 23:15:36