**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 09 02:59:59 2012 Aug 09 03:22:11 Morin Aug 09 03:22:15 mornin even Aug 09 03:51:26 EricBlade-TP: yo Aug 09 03:51:38 yo yo yo Aug 09 05:51:48 folks Aug 09 05:57:40 bhuey Aug 09 06:27:45 hey ka6sox Aug 09 06:28:13 it goes..how about you? Aug 09 06:53:14 was hot here in SF today Aug 09 06:53:20 upper 90s inland Aug 09 06:54:09 cooled off nicely though which is typical for this area since it's close to cold ocean water and fog blowing in Aug 09 06:57:54 morning Aug 09 06:57:59 morn Aug 09 06:58:05 hey carsten Aug 09 06:58:45 qt is now at digia? Aug 09 06:58:59 yeah, better than it being somewhere that has some ceo putting things on fire.. Aug 09 06:59:16 and it seems like qt-project continues as-is, so that's good Aug 09 07:03:03 yeah Aug 09 11:28:40 Qt portability is one way of making webOS portable Aug 09 11:54:49 probably easiest out of all of the methods out there currently Aug 09 12:30:21 Qt even runs on Haiku :) Aug 09 12:40:33 morning all Aug 09 16:07:11 mornin Aug 09 16:14:46 morning EricBlade Aug 09 16:20:43 morning EricBlade Aug 09 16:29:22 mornin Aug 09 16:30:35 mawnin Aug 09 16:33:48 g'mornin Aug 09 16:33:57 gid meauning Aug 09 16:37:18 this is degrading rapidly Aug 09 16:38:12 guten tag Aug 09 16:40:19 ~lart everyone Aug 09 16:40:20 * WoceBot keeps mailing everyone free America Online CDs until he drowns Aug 09 16:40:55 hmm. i'm doctoring my pre2, because it refused to go online, and the doctor is sticking for a very very long time at 72% .. anyone know if that's normal? Aug 09 16:41:13 define 'very long time' Aug 09 16:41:22 i've had it stick at a fairly high value for a while before Aug 09 16:41:38 EricBlade: run the doctor from the console, and you'll get verbose console output Aug 09 16:41:46 but that sounds "normal" Aug 09 16:41:56 ShiftyAxel: several minutes now Aug 09 16:42:03 sounds normal Aug 09 16:43:48 HaDAk i don't think that works in windows i think it runs as a gui app without a console Aug 09 16:45:19 hmm. i just did my pre+ twice recently and it didn't have a huge delay like this .. but then again, meta doctor vs regular Aug 09 16:49:24 it's on about 15 minutes stuck now Aug 09 16:49:45 that's a bit high Aug 09 16:49:55 srsly. do it from *any* other os. Aug 09 16:49:58 get a real console going Aug 09 16:51:19 ok so i aborted that, and now i'm stuck at the arrow with the cpu picture .. battery pull? Aug 09 16:54:26 fark. now stuck at HP logo won't go into usb mode Aug 09 16:57:04 weird. after a very long delay, it came up as if it's new Aug 09 16:58:12 EricBlade, that situation sounds familiar, but I don't recall any specifics Aug 09 17:03:39 arrow with cpu means it's writing firmware Aug 09 17:03:41 fwiw Aug 09 17:03:59 i believe it also fsck's after wiping Aug 09 17:04:01 right Aug 09 17:04:03 thatcan take a while Aug 09 17:04:18 well, it seems to be working. i guess the last 28% of the doctor process is .. unimportant? Aug 09 17:04:27 important. Aug 09 17:04:33 i'd suggest doing it again. from a linux box. Aug 09 17:04:37 nope, still refusing to go to wifi Aug 09 17:05:27 i can ping google from the command line on it, but i can't get anywhere else or do anything else Aug 09 17:06:19 Last 28% is verification Aug 09 17:06:24 iirc Aug 09 17:14:04 hmm. the console isnt very helpful after it gets to the installation side of it, merely providing a percent complete (which is off by a compounding 2% in the GUI every time it updates) Aug 09 17:20:34 Aug 09, 2012 1:20:01 PM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.CardController logPrint Aug 09 17:20:34 INFO: Customization: * DEVICE TYPE = CASTLE Aug 09 17:23:02 well that didn't stick hardly at all at 72%, zoomed right to 83 then complete Aug 09 17:27:35 I need some help... Aug 09 17:27:42 I need someone to get a few doctors.... Aug 09 17:28:13 what for? Aug 09 17:28:14 and document the md5sums of the /usr/bin/LunaSysMgr for the various versions of 3.0.X Aug 09 17:28:30 I have the ones with the big white jackets on speeddial. Aug 09 17:28:37 lol Aug 09 17:29:47 (his psychiatrist is #1 on speed dial) Aug 09 17:30:43 GodGinrai, because I want to make sure that we don't create a mess when we install new LSM-CE Aug 09 17:31:17 ah, I see Aug 09 17:32:02 Sadly, I can't do this for you, as I am at work Aug 09 17:32:49 understood...but I'm sure someone can and will take up this challenge...as it is a blocking item to producing an installable item. Aug 09 17:32:56 s/item/package/ Aug 09 17:32:56 ka6sox meant: understood...but I'm sure someone can and will take up this challenge...as it is a blocking package to producing an installable item. Aug 09 17:34:01 what's the process? Aug 09 17:34:44 download a doctor (if you don't already have them) and explode them Aug 09 17:34:54 find webos.tar and explodet that Aug 09 17:35:07 find /usr/bin/LunaSysMgr Aug 09 17:35:18 md5sum LunaSysMgr Aug 09 17:35:36 and record the answer on the wiki for all versions. Aug 09 18:06:43 I had a "deny all access to IP 192.168.1.12" stuck in my router from like a year ago when i had to knock someone offline for a while .. and my phone was randomly given that IP. and it's stayed with it for days. Aug 09 18:21:48 ouch Aug 09 18:22:07 the joys of random obscure problems Aug 09 18:54:14 Hi Aug 09 18:54:21 Hi Aug 09 18:55:04 I'm wondering if someone can help me... On the website: When I'm not logged in, I can see the "Recent Changes" page, but when I'm logged in with my username Herrie I have no permission for this? Aug 09 18:55:55 iiiinteresting. Aug 09 18:56:13 That actually sounds like a wiki issue, Aug 09 18:56:26 Could be, not sure, it's kinda strange.... Aug 09 18:56:39 "The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: *, Users, hp. " Aug 09 18:57:19 yup, wiki issue Aug 09 18:58:38 OK, anything that can be done to fix it, or I need to logout every time :P ? Aug 09 19:31:09 Herrie, fixed Aug 09 19:31:39 thnx Aug 09 19:31:43 works ok now Aug 09 19:31:46 evening Aug 09 19:31:57 morning swisstomcat Aug 09 19:47:15 morning swisstomcat Aug 09 19:48:37 hey Aug 09 20:57:25 Hmm. Google sends me an advertisement for Nexus 7, it is top in my Priority Inbox. They send me a "suspicious sign-in attempt averted" message, and it goes to Spam. Aug 09 21:07:05 EricBlade: lol Aug 09 21:07:44 lol Aug 09 21:09:29 EricBlade: you sure the suspicious sign in mail was actually from google and you're not being phished? Aug 09 21:09:54 yeah the link legitimately went to google Aug 09 21:42:09 folks Aug 09 21:51:45 cya all Aug 09 22:35:12 ~ugt Aug 09 22:35:12 somebody said ugt was Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Aug 09 22:50:23 hey rrix Aug 09 22:50:28 hi ShiftyAxel Aug 09 22:50:48 we've been hacking on your woce-build work :D Aug 09 22:51:04 ka6sox told me :) Aug 09 22:51:08 www.github.com/ShiftyAxel/woce-build Aug 09 22:51:11 Thanks for picking that up. I've been in devops hell all week Aug 09 22:51:27 no worries man, it's been going pretty well Aug 09 22:51:35 questioning my choice of careers and questioning my sanity ;) Aug 09 22:51:38 how's the dosed-up-ness been going? Aug 09 22:52:09 IT's … going. :) Aug 09 22:52:19 I worked from home today Aug 09 22:52:28 and by that I mean inadvertent couchnap Aug 09 22:52:52 haha, well we all need downtime once in a while Aug 09 22:53:09 we could use a tester for the new build stuff if you're up for it ;) Aug 09 22:53:34 EricBlade hasn't had much luck with it thus far, and I'm having trouble diagnosing Aug 09 22:56:12 Sure, pull straight from your repo? Aug 09 22:56:21 yeah, alpha branch Aug 09 23:01:13 it's the ipk install that's proving problematic- works fine for me but when eric tried it the postinst didn't put LunaSysMgr.new where it should be Aug 09 23:02:36 ok Aug 09 23:02:47 I will doctor my testing pad and try it when I have a spare band or two Aug 09 23:03:34 much appreciated, thanks :) Aug 09 23:34:14 anyone around? Aug 09 23:34:38 ShiftyAxel? Aug 09 23:35:22 rrix? Aug 09 23:35:33 Kind of, what's up? Aug 09 23:35:47 just trying to troubleshoot the upstart script Aug 09 23:36:01 didn't know if anyone had had any breakthroughs Aug 09 23:36:31 ShiftyAxel's been working on it and needs someone to test his stuff Aug 09 23:36:36 http://www.github.com/ShiftyAxel/woce-build Aug 09 23:36:41 I'll check it out, thanks Aug 09 23:37:06 LarrySteeze: yo Aug 09 23:37:24 ShiftyAxel: if you've got something working, I'm happy to test it Aug 09 23:38:04 the repo rrix posted has working packaging, though you have to run it with 'make CONFIG= package' from the luna-sysmgr dir Aug 09 23:38:47 the main thing that needs testing right now is the package installation, it's worked for me but EricBlade's been having problema Aug 09 23:39:11 is there a new ipk? Aug 09 23:39:26 the one I tested the other day was having issues with file placement Aug 09 23:40:41 I'll have to reboot my computer into my build environment in order to build Aug 09 23:42:22 LarrySteeze: I can email you the onei have on here if you like? Aug 09 23:42:32 sure Aug 09 23:42:33 or irc file transfer, but I dunno how that works Aug 09 23:42:39 if it worked without problem Aug 09 23:42:47 email is easy enough, I'll PM you my email address Aug 10 00:00:42 * ka6sox is back Aug 10 00:01:37 * ka6sox arrives back...everyone heads for the hills. Aug 10 00:02:09 * LarrySteeze peeks from the hills Aug 10 00:02:17 sorry, testing Shifty's ipk Aug 10 00:02:19 its not safe... Aug 10 00:02:24 seems to be fully functional Aug 10 00:02:54 did you do 3.0.5 or 4.0.0? Aug 10 00:02:58 4.0.0 Aug 10 00:03:39 okay...thats the one people will really want...the other is to get us back out of nastiness. Aug 10 00:03:58 right Aug 10 01:00:03 off to the land of nod methinks, nn all Aug 10 02:14:35 Just pushed docs for the HostArm* classes. Pushed an HTML docs update, but those sometimes take a bit to show up. Aug 10 02:21:37 So, what's currently the most in need of documentation? Aug 10 02:46:54 Pushed a few more code docs (no HTML ones yet) for WebPageClient. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 10 02:59:58 2012