**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 13 02:59:59 2012 Aug 13 03:01:07 *bluen salutes ShiftyAxel with beer mug. Great work. Aug 13 03:17:54 4.1.1 is in the feeds Aug 13 03:18:23 :D Aug 13 03:18:37 * EricBlade1 does not see an update :| Aug 13 03:18:40 rwhitby: ty (and 'grats to all here involved of course :)) Aug 13 03:19:35 now i do. yay! thanks rod Aug 13 03:20:16 :D Aug 13 03:21:01 well only on one of my touchpads do i see it. this same touchpad also had trouble even finding the feed to begin wtih. grrrr. Aug 13 03:23:01 oooh one of the patches in 4.1.1 tweaks it so you can tap a card on the side to maximize it Aug 13 03:23:02 yay! Aug 13 03:23:50 interestingly, if you touch in the empty area with infinite enabled, then it will cycle you to the card that would be there if it actually showed one Aug 13 03:24:29 so i wonder if that patch actually understands which card you're tapping, or if it just assumes an area of space is equal to the app to the left or the app to the right Aug 13 03:24:56 but, how does one do tabbed view? Aug 13 03:31:07 its broken in 4.10 Aug 13 03:31:10 4.1.0 Aug 13 03:31:24 what about 4.1.1 :) Aug 13 03:31:35 is there something called that? Aug 13 03:32:21 yeah the release that just posted Aug 13 03:33:41 * ka6sox wishes he knew german... Aug 13 03:34:03 they keep giving a telephone number that I cant understand. Aug 13 03:35:58 hmm. but if you called that number, would you understand anything there/ Aug 13 03:39:56 i don't see tabs working in 4.1.1 but am not sure how i would activate it Aug 13 03:40:22 @LoungeFM Aug 13 03:40:39 EricBlade1, ^^ Aug 13 03:41:20 ? Aug 13 03:41:26 bluen, try tweaks? Aug 13 03:41:32 the infinite slide and the tap to to maximize edge make this work well as a package--very smooth and helpful Aug 13 03:41:51 what I'm listening to. Aug 13 03:44:21 ok what are tabbed cards? is this stacks Aug 13 03:46:18 So its stacks but you can see edges of each card? Like a deck of cards in your hands that you fan out? I like it Aug 13 03:47:46 but looks the same as the vanilla luna Aug 13 03:49:22 * ka6sox has no idea...still waiting for TP to find its way back from the hackathon... Aug 13 03:52:31 no idea how to actually get to tab mode once it's enabled Aug 13 04:17:40 EricBlade1: stack some cards, maximize one, swipe from left edge to see others Aug 13 04:18:32 oh.. i see... Aug 13 04:19:10 interesting! of course, first thing i do with it is break it :) Aug 13 04:19:31 oh that's not a break Aug 13 04:19:54 it could probably stand to have some sensitivity adjustments to the vertical sliding portion Aug 13 04:20:03 when i tap it also slides Aug 13 04:20:41 that's probably for when you have more cards and it needs to scroll vertically Aug 13 04:21:08 yes, thinking it should not do movement unless it's reasonably certain that we're moving and not tapping Aug 13 04:21:44 also can slide a whole card out of view and leave it there Aug 13 04:22:12 i love the bouncing effect though Aug 13 04:22:46 yeah, it's like a game of Pong Aug 13 04:23:27 * ka6sox built one of those... Aug 13 04:23:56 i used to use Pong Clock on my phones in exhibition mode, until it started freezing Aug 13 04:24:40 * scoutcamper plays pong on his MAME Machine Aug 13 04:27:16 * ka6sox interupts this marathon hacking session to head *outside* and observe the Perside Meter shower... Aug 13 04:32:31 meter shower? sounds painful Aug 13 04:32:35 parking meters? Aug 13 04:37:09 perside is tonight? I thought it was last night Aug 13 05:07:38 * HaDAk points at EricBlade1 Aug 13 05:08:06 * rrix tickles HaDAk Aug 13 05:08:39 howdy HaDAk Aug 13 05:09:14 i see somebody else experienced their accounts being totally fucked? Aug 13 05:09:26 yes! Aug 13 05:09:38 * HaDAk told ya so Aug 13 05:10:07 who was it? Aug 13 05:10:09 the two of you should compare notes on what patches you had installed maybe Aug 13 05:10:25 k4ever Aug 13 05:11:19 i don't remember what i had installed. Aug 13 05:11:33 but you people wouldn't help me, so i quit troubleshooting. Aug 13 05:11:35 hell, i don't even remember what i decided the problem was Aug 13 05:11:40 i know i identified it at one point Aug 13 05:11:56 not that we wouldn't help you, but we had exactly zero other instances of it to compare to until today Aug 13 05:12:01 i tried! Aug 13 05:12:26 that's true, you did. a bit. Aug 13 05:12:30 * HaDAk holds his fingers up Aug 13 05:12:33 this much. Aug 13 05:12:44 keep the middle finger down :) Aug 13 05:12:46 :P Aug 13 05:12:48 lol Aug 13 05:13:09 fwiw, i still can't get the new lunasysmgr to work properly. Aug 13 05:13:13 none of the tweaks take effect Aug 13 05:13:24 how much you wanna bet somebody else is going to run into that one? Aug 13 05:15:47 What tweaks version are you using? Aug 13 05:16:42 1.8.5 Aug 13 05:16:46 You need 3.0.1 Aug 13 05:16:52 hum. Aug 13 05:17:00 what feed is it in? why am i not being prompted for an update? Aug 13 05:17:06 beta feeds Aug 13 05:17:08 Probably still Alpha or beta Aug 13 05:17:19 i have alpha enabled. lemme grab it from beta. Aug 13 05:17:22 You should have both enabled if you're going to test LSM Aug 13 05:18:01 fair 'nuff. i wish i could do more with development, without being able to write much code. Aug 13 05:18:21 * rrix hasn't written any code so far, herd cats with me and ka6sox ;) Aug 13 05:18:21 I wonder if the tweaks version is a common thread w/account screwups? Aug 13 05:18:47 i have some REALLY good ideas to implement Aug 13 05:18:55 but nobody seems to want to tackle em Aug 13 05:19:00 and i haven't been able to figure it out on my own :\ Aug 13 05:19:13 no kayphoonstar_ tweaks wasn't even remotely involved the first time it happened, and it also hasn't happened to hadak since the first time either Aug 13 05:19:21 and tweaks is completely seperate from it Aug 13 05:19:30 k Aug 13 05:20:17 if tweaks is the culprit of that, I will help EricBlade1 eat his hat Aug 13 05:20:23 I didnt had the correct tweaks vr while installing UL, no accounts problems, just unable to enable the new features Aug 13 05:20:51 UL 4.1.1 was released since i went to work? Aug 13 05:20:53 yeesh Aug 13 05:21:23 Folks have been busy :) Aug 13 05:21:54 (than you folks) :) Aug 13 05:22:09 yes. and by the time you go back to work, it'll be 5.0. Aug 13 05:23:49 that won't be till tuesday, prolly :P Aug 13 05:23:54 you'd BETTER be 5.0 by tuesday Aug 13 05:23:57 ...slackers. Aug 13 05:24:12 wow, you guys are versioning faster than chrome! kudos! Aug 13 05:25:32 I will have between 0 and 3 lines of code in when the project is done Aug 13 05:25:35 it only went from 4.0.0 to 4.1.1 Aug 13 05:25:48 a 0.1.0 for new features and a 0.0.1 for a bug fix Aug 13 05:25:49 we bumped to 4.x for the features we added, then added a new feature hence the bump to 4.1 Aug 13 05:26:09 makes sense to me. Aug 13 05:26:20 * EricBlade1 adds more features Aug 13 05:26:24 now requires a device restart? Aug 13 05:26:31 4.x was simply so we can weed out people who report the webOS version number when asked what version of UberLunah they are running Aug 13 05:26:33 hey, while you're at it, can you add a can opener? Aug 13 05:26:55 oh, it already has that, but you have to break the screen so it has a sharp edge Aug 13 05:26:58 right, what rwhitby said Aug 13 05:27:38 "What version of UberLunah are you running?" "3.0.5" "click". Aug 13 05:28:04 s/UberLunah/LunaSysMgr CE/g Aug 13 05:28:05 * rrix ducks :) Aug 13 05:28:32 is tweaks now using enyo 2, or still enyo 1? Aug 13 05:28:42 1 Aug 13 05:28:44 enyo1 Aug 13 05:28:46 rrix: and prevent people from making jokes like https://twitter.com/ZombieElvis/status/234861192475197441 ? Aug 13 05:29:05 Yes :) Aug 13 05:29:09 "No, but I'm Excited CE" doesn't really cut it ;) Aug 13 05:29:21 even my groans are groaning :) Aug 13 05:29:40 these tweaks don't appear to need a luna restart, correct? also, updating tweaks corrected the problem. thank you. Aug 13 05:29:48 Correct Aug 13 05:30:54 * rwhitby pushes Tweaks 3.0.1 to stable feed Aug 13 05:31:10 psh. coulda done that two minutes ago :P Aug 13 05:31:22 Needed testing! Aug 13 05:31:32 i'd like to see the card stacking hack added in. ya know, the multi-gesture one? Aug 13 05:31:33 what, and miss out on the fun of watching people having problems? Aug 13 05:31:53 http://m.webosnation.com/webos-community-edition-gets-card-stack-management-makes-sense Aug 13 05:32:01 there's no reason that can't be included Aug 13 05:32:04 and it's something i actually used Aug 13 05:32:14 it makes WAY more sense than the current implementation Aug 13 05:32:15 other than a pull request for it hasn't been sent yet Aug 13 05:32:45 i'm going to find that guy, break his legs, and make him request :P Aug 13 05:33:02 also, i can't figure out why firefox refuses to use anything other than the mobile webosnation site Aug 13 05:33:04 blah! Aug 13 05:33:22 Use a real brows-- *headshot* Aug 13 05:33:30 lol Aug 13 05:33:32 hey, i totally agree Aug 13 05:33:36 but i don't wanna launch chrome. Aug 13 05:33:42 * rwhitby pushes Preware 1.9.12 to stable feed Aug 13 05:33:42 (it has a zillion tabs open) Aug 13 05:34:12 * HaDAk is super happy that the tab switching made it Aug 13 05:34:18 <3 Aug 13 05:35:13 i also appreciate the lock screen/date/version banner fix Aug 13 05:35:18 ShiftyAxel|Away: pong Aug 13 05:35:23 man laser pins are so cool Aug 13 05:35:34 you guys fixed a lot of good stuff while i was away. Aug 13 05:38:07 hmmm, I haven't eaten today Aug 13 05:38:14 I had coffee for lunch Aug 13 05:38:23 ok. 8th interview at 11:30am. i'd better get some shut eye, so i can answer this guy's questions. Aug 13 05:39:32 Gn and GL! Aug 13 05:40:02 thanks! i'm hoping REALLY hard for this job. it'd be doing EXACTLY what i want to be doing, and DOUBLING my salary. with AWESOME benefits. Aug 13 05:40:06 dream. job. Aug 13 05:40:36 Field? Aug 13 05:40:53 no way Aug 13 05:40:57 DDoS mitigation Aug 13 05:41:07 :D Aug 13 05:41:13 awesome! Aug 13 05:41:18 http://www.arbornetworks.com/peakflow-sp-traffic-anomaly-detection.html Aug 13 05:43:27 that sounds very very nice Aug 13 05:43:51 hey EricBlade1, ka6sox: quick bug report on 4.1.1: when you get a notification AND you've got the just type tweak enabled, it has the potential to push the magnifying glass over the version string Aug 13 05:43:58 8th interview? Aug 13 05:44:01 what the shit? Aug 13 05:44:03 zubiaur: yes. that's why i'm going to bed.. :) Aug 13 05:44:25 hooray for hadak to double his salary! Aug 13 05:44:32 rrix: well, one with the recruiter, two subsequent phone interviews, then a 4-in-1 interview -- went in for 4 hours, talked an hour with 4 different people Aug 13 05:44:39 EricBlade1: god willing, i will Aug 13 05:44:44 it'd be a bit more than double Aug 13 05:44:49 like, 35->80 Aug 13 05:44:56 HaDAk: jeez. Aug 13 05:45:02 of course the benefit of being employed, is i will increase my salary by infinity next time i am employed. Aug 13 05:45:06 HaDAk: that would be cool if you land it :) Aug 13 05:45:09 lol Aug 13 05:45:10 *being *unemployed* Aug 13 05:45:13 it would be more cool. Aug 13 05:45:23 EricBlade1: if you had transportation, i could *easily* get you a job at 'cuda Aug 13 05:45:26 EricBlade1: *funemployed Aug 13 05:45:52 HaDAk: this sounds like "hey, i hate working here. Come join me!" Aug 13 05:45:54 :) Aug 13 05:46:00 cuda? the nvidia thing? Aug 13 05:46:06 it's more like "this place sucks balls, but they have money" Aug 13 05:46:09 zubiaur: barracuda networks Aug 13 05:46:15 oh Aug 13 05:46:49 anyway. bed for me. fingers/balls/hairs crossed for this interview. Aug 13 05:47:00 i dunno i'm not much of a networker. i was a whiz at this crap when we all used 50ohm coax cables, but the switch to 8-wire screwed me all up Aug 13 05:47:02 don't cross balls Aug 13 05:47:03 oh god Aug 13 05:47:06 Me thinks you are already in... Aug 13 05:47:07 jajaja Aug 13 05:47:22 EricBlade1: programming position. if you know a lick of python and/or perl, you're a shoein Aug 13 05:47:31 zubiaur: me too, but i can't fuck it up now Aug 13 05:47:37 i'm not proficient at python but i can operate it Aug 13 05:47:39 rrix: ok, balls was a bit much. >.> Aug 13 05:47:48 EricBlade1: i think they do C development too Aug 13 05:47:54 EricBlade1: know anything about VoIP? Aug 13 05:48:00 i'm more proficient at python than c Aug 13 05:48:03 they need a product manager for voip Aug 13 05:48:16 EricBlade1: cudatel.com Aug 13 05:49:21 i need a project manager for "how the hell do you translate Palm.AjaxCall into a node EventEmitter" Aug 13 05:50:39 pmbok offers no insight on "how the hell do you translate Palm.AjaxCall into a node EventEmitter" Aug 13 05:51:54 imagine that. anyway, if you need me to throw your resume in people's faces...lemme know, EricBlade1 Aug 13 05:52:00 i'm off to bed. you kids work on 5.0. Aug 13 05:52:06 heh Aug 13 06:02:19 going to sleep too, goodnight/day. Thanks a lot, UL is awesome :) Aug 13 07:16:52 I just had a lockup similar to what I've seen occasionally w/2.2.4 on the Pre2. Icon glows but won't launch. Aug 13 07:27:06 kayphoonstar, got logs? Aug 13 07:33:27 kernel log? Or? Aug 13 08:02:38 hello Aug 13 08:02:48 so even doctoring doesn't help, tweaks still crashes Aug 13 08:02:56 luna Aug 13 10:47:41 * EricBlade1 dances Aug 13 12:45:30 where's the keymanager service in webOS? Aug 13 12:56:31 /usr/bin/keymanager - doesn't seem to be open source yet :-/ Aug 13 13:02:03 found a reason for some of the account problems, like Dropbox not working: http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/49#note-2 Aug 13 13:24:39 HaDAk|work, HaDAk|zzz: did you find out something more about that "library not initialized" issue? Aug 13 14:30:04 pc-world: uh Aug 13 14:30:39 I'm facing a similar issue and I think others as well Aug 13 14:31:16 with the accounts thing? i remember tracking down the issue, but not knowing how to fix it. Aug 13 14:31:19 i don't remember anything else. Aug 13 14:35:16 give the man some coffee....sleep talking isn't easy Aug 13 14:35:33 especially after taking sleeping pills. Aug 13 14:35:36 * HaDAk|zzz groans Aug 13 14:36:37 pc-world: that library not initialized issue looks about right for what i was getting Aug 13 14:37:34 HaDAk|zzz: oops sry, I don't get notifications from Pidgin if my name isn't mentioned ^^ Aug 13 14:37:49 ah. Aug 13 14:38:28 HaDAk|zzz: if you haven't seen it yet: http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/49 Aug 13 14:39:11 i just read it. as i said, that issue sounds about like what i was getting. Aug 13 14:39:32 HaDAk|zzz: So do services like Dropbox Synergy work for you after you've doctored your device? And Impostah/key store? Aug 13 14:40:08 after doctoring, things work fine. Aug 13 14:40:31 i was really opposed to doctoring though. -- i really wanted to understand the issue, instead of just make it go away Aug 13 14:41:22 HaDAk|zzz: that's what I want to do now as well :D Aug 13 14:41:58 HaDAk|zzz: do you have any idea what kind of "library" it means? (too bad that keymanager isn't open source [yet]) Aug 13 14:42:11 i don't, really. Aug 13 14:42:20 and i wouldn't even know what to strace to find out Aug 13 14:42:47 opensourcing crypto stuff is very tricky... Aug 13 14:43:05 HaDAk|work: one could try to have a look at it using a disassembler... though not sure if that would help Aug 13 14:43:13 ka6sox-away: no security through obscurity! Aug 13 14:44:10 pc-world, no...BYOS Aug 13 14:44:16 pc-world: strace will dump the calls to stdout Aug 13 14:44:22 ka6sox-away: that said, the current implementation of webOS' keymanager doesn't make any sense and isn't secure at all Aug 13 14:44:36 morning swisstomcat Aug 13 14:44:45 morning Aug 13 14:44:47 ka6sox-away: it would take about a few minutes to get a password an app stored using keymanager Aug 13 14:44:57 I forgot to say morning pc-world hadak Aug 13 14:45:09 mornin ka6sox-away ^^ Aug 13 14:45:31 morning everyone ^^ (ok, well, it's already 4pm here :o) Aug 13 14:45:54 right Aug 13 14:46:03 same here Aug 13 14:46:14 10:45 am here. Aug 13 14:46:18 pc-world, for OWOS I suspect we will have to Bring our Own Security Aug 13 14:46:21 i'm only up cause i need to not be groggy for this interview. Aug 13 14:46:33 ka6sox-away: perhaps. perhaps not. Aug 13 14:46:44 HP didn't "invent" this security mechanism Aug 13 14:47:14 HaDAk: which isn't any real security mechanism at all... Aug 13 14:47:25 a fair point. Aug 13 14:47:50 HaDAk: since it isn't encrypted with a user-based password, and even that would make problems Aug 13 14:48:04 just like cryptofs... one of the worst inventions in webOS ever Aug 13 14:48:12 i was actually thinking about how to handle different users on the tablet Aug 13 14:48:25 i understand why they did cryptofs Aug 13 14:48:36 they originally didn't have it, if i recally correctly Aug 13 14:48:50 HaDAk: yes, it was introduced with 1.3.5 or something Aug 13 14:48:52 but people were running out of space installing apps Aug 13 14:49:17 so they needed space on the media storage. the cryptofs was meant to protect apps from piracy when it was plugged in to the usb Aug 13 14:49:25 so, it's kind of a hacky workaround of a larger issue. Aug 13 14:49:47 HaDAk: I know, but with devmode that doesn't make any sense and I'm sure it didn't protect any single app from being pirated Aug 13 14:50:13 i've never pirated a webos app. i think people actually wanting webos to succeed helps prevent that. Aug 13 14:50:21 how do chromeOS, chrome app store and firefox os intend to solve that problem? Aug 13 14:50:23 but that'll change Aug 13 14:50:32 swisstomcat: which problem? Aug 13 14:50:45 source of the app available Aug 13 14:50:46 what we should be asking ourselves is...how does android and ios handle it? Aug 13 14:50:50 if you install Aug 13 14:50:57 swisstomcat: I don't think they prevent that? Aug 13 14:51:08 they don't? Aug 13 14:51:33 HaDAk: Android not at all (there's a license check function, but oc hacked) Aug 13 14:51:49 HaDAk: and, well, iOS' jail - but there's the jailbreak Aug 13 14:51:59 i don't know about the ios jail Aug 13 14:52:32 HaDAk: you can only install apps from the app store, you have no root access etc. Aug 13 14:52:40 oh, that Aug 13 14:52:54 that's a big problem with ios....EVERYTHING is run as root. Aug 13 14:52:58 i think that should change. Aug 13 14:53:03 HaDAk: ?!? Aug 13 14:53:05 I don't think so. Aug 13 14:53:19 HaDAk: if that was true, people wouldn't need any complicated jailbreaks Aug 13 14:53:20 you don't think it should change? Aug 13 14:53:27 HaDAk: I don't think that's true Aug 13 14:53:39 you got your touchpad plugged in? Aug 13 14:53:43 run `who` Aug 13 14:54:02 HaDAk: "that's a big problem with ios" - and on my TouchPad, I haven't iOS, sorry ;P Aug 13 14:54:13 oh, balls Aug 13 14:54:17 i'm not talking about ios >.> Aug 13 14:54:20 i meant webos Aug 13 14:54:21 lol Aug 13 14:54:25 * HaDAk is still half asleep Aug 13 14:54:27 lemme alone :( Aug 13 14:54:45 * ka6sox-away hands HaDAk a cup of coffee Aug 13 14:54:51 thank you Aug 13 14:54:57 HaDAk: only novacom is run on root... apps aren't root, PDK apps are jailed as well Aug 13 14:55:13 *novaterm Aug 13 14:58:01 huh. ok then. Aug 13 14:58:04 i digress Aug 13 14:58:11 we should think about tackling user accounts Aug 13 14:58:19 -especially- enterprise user accounts Aug 13 14:58:24 could you IMAGINE domain logon?! Aug 13 14:58:31 enteprises would gobble us up Aug 13 14:58:52 haha Aug 13 14:59:28 does iOS have this now (or at least announced) or was it only rumored a few months ago? Aug 13 15:13:58 morning all Aug 13 15:14:56 mornin ShiftyAxel Aug 13 15:15:09 how's it hanging? Aug 13 15:15:20 * ShiftyAxel is hanging, boy what a late night Aug 13 15:15:23 waitin for this interview Aug 13 15:15:28 15 min Aug 13 15:15:34 at hp? :) Aug 13 15:15:41 no no Aug 13 15:16:38 i think they're looking for linux people Aug 13 15:16:50 goodluck hadak, you will do great Aug 13 15:16:51 if i could move out there, i'd join em in a heartbeat Aug 13 15:16:52 (open webos related) Aug 13 15:16:57 thanks bluen :) Aug 13 15:17:04 it's my 8th interview, so i'd BETTER nail it Aug 13 15:22:58 LunohoD: are you still about? Aug 13 15:24:37 ShiftyAxel: yes Aug 13 15:24:52 cool, the ping earlier was re your keyboard patches Aug 13 15:25:13 I saw the commit revert Aug 13 15:25:29 we had a bit of a snafu regarding mans' pull request, and yours got removed too Aug 13 15:25:31 sorry about that Aug 13 15:25:32 ] Aug 13 15:25:37 no problem Aug 13 15:26:15 mans can't fix his til thursday, so if you want you can wait for that and re-issue on top of that, or go ahead and pull it on top of what we have now Aug 13 15:26:34 ok Aug 13 15:26:35 thoughts? Aug 13 15:26:39 i'll wait Aug 13 15:28:09 fair enough Aug 13 16:03:30 * HaDAk breathes into a paper bag Aug 13 16:05:05 HaDAk: deep breaths Aug 13 16:06:06 ok. 8 down. one to go. Aug 13 17:01:24 woot, die text field bug die Aug 13 17:01:33 *stamp stamp stamp* Aug 13 18:56:25 ShiftyAxel: umm... git rule #1, never rebase a branch that's been pushed already... :o Aug 13 18:57:39 pc-world: did I break something? :( Aug 13 18:57:57 that changes *all* commit hashs of the entire history Aug 13 18:58:07 did you push with --force? Aug 13 18:58:51 ah, I see... yes Aug 13 18:59:20 just never push with --force in a public repo ;) Aug 13 18:59:41 okay, I'll remember that :p Aug 13 19:05:32 just merge the next time Aug 13 19:52:31 ShiftyAxel: did any of the work we did getting LSM running on the pre2/3 devices make it into the 4.1.1 release? Aug 13 19:52:59 HaDAk: the search pill and ql layout did Aug 13 19:53:17 nice. so, i could technically try putting it on my pre2 Aug 13 19:53:22 not that i'd get much further Aug 13 19:54:10 you could, but you'd have to fix up the commented out/ifdef'd bits from the pre fix Aug 13 19:54:26 and you still wouldn't have apps :p Aug 13 19:54:40 i also wouldn't have any input. Aug 13 19:54:52 erm, keyboard iirc Aug 13 19:55:25 still. good to know. :) Aug 13 19:55:26 did the vkb not work? Aug 13 19:55:39 i don't think it did Aug 13 19:55:40 lemme check Aug 13 19:55:52 yeah, thankfully the changes will work on 2.x, sadly nothing else will :D Aug 13 19:56:08 well, we'll have to wait. battery is dead. Aug 13 19:56:22 nothing else will...yet. Aug 13 19:56:27 just wait until we have the full source. Aug 13 19:56:29 we'll get it working. :) Aug 13 19:56:44 i had an idea with how to handle multiple users, btw. Aug 13 19:57:13 actually, a couple of different ideas. Aug 13 19:57:39 lemme see if i can photoshop up a few ideas for ya. Aug 13 19:57:58 sounds good, though the infrastructure will be the hard part Aug 13 19:58:18 UI is equally difficult Aug 13 20:01:03 shit...do you remember the luna-send command to take a screenshot? i wanna capture the lock screen. Aug 13 20:01:31 nevermind. found somebody's in google. Aug 13 20:04:01 UI comes easily to me :p Aug 13 21:39:54 What's up party people Aug 13 21:45:51 I guess not Aug 13 21:59:47 the ceiling Aug 13 22:47:05 4.3 out yet? Aug 13 22:49:33 naw Aug 13 22:49:43 4.3? O.O Aug 13 22:49:50 can we have 4.2 first? Aug 13 22:50:25 yes, right after 4.1.2 through 4.1.9 :) Aug 13 22:59:45 Hackers Aug 13 23:00:05 what it be? Aug 13 23:00:11 but they're MY headphones Aug 13 23:22:52 hi all. has there been a fix yet for the synergy accounts login issues with uberlunah? Aug 13 23:23:55 i posted some details on my setup here: http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/317427-uberlunah-4-x-5.html#post3344291 Aug 13 23:26:10 k4ever: I saw your post and tried to replicate the issue...unfortunately, it didn't do the same thing for me :-( Aug 13 23:26:17 well, fortunately, I guess Aug 13 23:28:13 LarrySteeze: darn, I hate being one of the few who has a problem. i posted my patches and the procedures i used to install uberlunah in the linked post. hope that helps someone solve this issue Aug 13 23:28:41 going mobile... Aug 13 23:30:00 k4ever: We're going to keep looking to see if we can figure it out, but all I can think about is the hashing differences Aug 13 23:30:31 k4ever: did you try installing the palm binary and seeing if that resolved the issue, or if it persists? Aug 13 23:30:55 of course, that would get rid of our version of LunaSysMgr, but it would greatly help in bug detection Aug 13 23:31:45 LarrySteeze: Yes I'm back on Palm Luna now and the problem persists Aug 13 23:32:29 if you are on the Palm Luna and the problem persists, then it shouldn't have anything to do with the change Aug 13 23:32:57 sounds like it may be a deeper issue Aug 13 23:33:09 did you try removing *ALL* accounts, doing a device restart, changing to our LSM, adding accounts, and testing? Aug 13 23:34:01 No I did not remove all accounts... I could do that now. Aug 13 23:36:11 I can't guarantee it'll work, and I know it's a pain, but I think it's worth a shot Aug 13 23:40:48 I just removed all but the default Palm account. Should I remove all patches also before switching to your LSM? Aug 13 23:40:48 patches shouldn't matter, but I tend to try to play it safe Aug 13 23:40:48 I have over 30 installed. Once my Facebook account is done removing itself I will do an EPR. Aug 13 23:40:48 don't worry about it Aug 13 23:40:48 your patches shouldn't be involved in this Aug 13 23:40:48 ok, I won't remove them. Aug 13 23:40:48 Shifty: I'll test it in a minute Aug 13 23:49:38 ok, about to install your lsm Aug 13 23:49:39 ok, switching back to desktop will touchpad reboots Aug 13 23:50:20 ok, it's back up. re-entering accounts now. cross your fingers... Aug 13 23:51:00 * LarrySteeze crosses fingers Aug 13 23:51:52 alright! Yahoo acount went through without an issue! trying google... Aug 13 23:52:46 google is good to go! Aug 13 23:53:07 w00t! Aug 13 23:54:01 I'm glad to hear it Aug 13 23:54:09 I thought it may have had to do with tht Aug 13 23:54:11 *that Aug 13 23:55:27 k4ever: have you registered for an account on webos-ports.org yet? Aug 13 23:56:01 no not yet. it looks like my other accounts are installing well also. Aug 13 23:56:48 good Aug 13 23:57:16 if this fixes it for you, could you do me a favor and document it on our wiki? Aug 13 23:59:15 yes i could Aug 13 23:59:31 great! Aug 14 00:02:31 i'm registered and logged in to your wiki now. I don't see a page for UberLunah... Aug 14 00:02:49 yeah, that's cause the name is still under consideration Aug 14 00:05:22 LarrySteeze: ok, so i don't screw this up, exactly where do you want me to document this? Aug 14 00:05:32 i gotta go, nn all Aug 14 00:05:41 k4ever, unless i allready did, i need to grant you write access to the wiki Aug 14 00:05:46 what is your wiki username? Aug 14 00:06:08 K4ever Aug 14 00:07:58 k4ever: don't worry, you won't screw it up Aug 14 00:08:04 if you do, I'll fix it :D Aug 14 00:17:53 EricBlade, ping? Aug 14 00:18:06 yo Aug 14 00:19:38 k4ever, sorry, the AC unit for the server room at work went out, had to deal with that. you are now promoted Aug 14 00:19:48 did you see that ShiftyAxel|Away fixed the input issue? Aug 14 00:19:54 (or did you read about it?) Aug 14 00:20:11 sorry, i was offline for a while Aug 14 00:20:22 np...life is... Aug 14 00:20:23 thanks! Aug 14 00:20:31 EricBlade, https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/commit/89135a4ef06d3e71d451e8288e5ae2adbbafe45d Aug 14 00:21:07 hmm. i question what the purpose of that code was Aug 14 00:22:14 i'm guessing that doesn't fix the focus problem as well? Aug 14 01:27:14 rwhitby: my vote is for uberlunah Aug 14 01:29:37 is it me or are there no straight lines in any of the enyo apps in uberlunah? Aug 14 02:32:27 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 14 02:59:58 2012