**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 17 02:59:58 2012 Aug 17 03:00:05 rrix: come on now! Aug 17 03:00:30 rrix: I've waited an hour...it only takes like 3 minutes to put a binary! Aug 17 03:00:41 I thought you were going to bed! Aug 17 03:00:45 * rrix gets out his pad Aug 17 03:00:48 yeah! that's my point! Aug 17 03:00:55 I've been waiting for you to test it! lol Aug 17 03:01:29 if you have any issues, I want to be here to give you support Aug 17 03:02:08 haha Aug 17 03:02:09 ok :) Aug 17 03:06:48 * rrix reboots Aug 17 03:07:02 ok Aug 17 03:07:09 tell me when you are at least in Luna Aug 17 03:07:13 ok Aug 17 03:07:28 because bluen was having issues getting into luna Aug 17 03:07:56 LarrySteeze: I have 4.3.3 up and running Aug 17 03:08:09 yay! Aug 17 03:08:21 need you to test a few things specifically Aug 17 03:08:26 ok Aug 17 03:08:28 please test fluid card switching Aug 17 03:08:37 Shit< I don't have the jsons for that Aug 17 03:08:39 hang on Aug 17 03:08:51 ok Aug 17 03:09:01 they are in /conf/tweaks Aug 17 03:09:08 yup Aug 17 03:09:14 * rrix runs his install-all script Aug 17 03:09:25 except my VM isn't running Aug 17 03:09:32 derp Aug 17 03:09:33 oopsie Aug 17 03:09:40 i'm so good at this, hang on Aug 17 03:09:48 I have the json's locally Aug 17 03:10:04 as long as you have the jsons from within the last couple days Aug 17 03:10:13 yup, I do Aug 17 03:10:15 if it has fluid in it, it's up to date Aug 17 03:12:35 side swipe is not working for me Aug 17 03:12:48 how so Aug 17 03:13:12 it works in fluid yes? Aug 17 03:13:38 i can slide to card on left but doesnt stay there when i take off finger, it snaps back to first card Aug 17 03:14:01 ok Aug 17 03:14:50 rrix: are you experiencing the same thing? Aug 17 03:15:09 tab works in slide, tap to maximize works in both Aug 17 03:15:26 I am still messing with things, I don't have fluid json :( Aug 17 03:15:36 how about dismissing notifications Aug 17 03:15:49 I have a feeling we broke fluid again when we fixed the notification bug Aug 17 03:15:49 cycling works in swipe Aug 17 03:16:23 cycling works in slide Aug 17 03:17:13 can dismiss notifications in both slide and fluid, dont remember a problem with this one Aug 17 03:17:24 what branch is the fluid stuff in? The JSON's not in features Aug 17 03:18:28 whoa in fluid when i upswipe card to right is diagonal / then it straigtens out as card finishes minimizing Aug 17 03:19:17 that is because it is part of a stack (the card on the right) Aug 17 03:20:48 https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/tree/features/conf/tweaks Aug 17 03:20:57 the json is there Aug 17 03:22:09 bluen: based on yours and my tests, I don't think this is ready for public release Aug 17 03:23:43 ok. I am uninstalling and will install recovery, then whatever build is in preware Aug 17 03:24:11 ok Aug 17 03:29:55 rrix? Aug 17 03:30:38 i'm about ready to give up on you rrix :P I wanted to go to bed at 10 my time Aug 17 03:33:48 back to preware build. Aug 17 03:36:12 alright, no more staying up Aug 17 03:36:15 rrix: i'm out Aug 17 03:37:17 LarrySteeze is weak. Aug 17 03:37:28 :) Aug 17 03:37:32 heh Aug 17 03:37:39 on weekdays, yup Aug 17 03:38:06 hmmn touchpad touchstone is hot Aug 17 03:46:31 I can't full screen flash anymore.. are we building with the native fixes? Aug 17 04:16:13 grr. wirc is quite unstable for me. plugin seems to be crashing out because I can't reconnect without closing app Aug 17 04:41:45 \o/ Aug 17 04:51:37 sup kay Aug 17 04:51:47 oh that was a leave not a join Aug 17 04:55:47 yep. the autoconnect stuf seems not working Aug 17 06:53:22 I'm reading http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Versions right now. Would it not make more sense to have the version as heading and list all features and fixes under it? Aug 17 06:54:03 At least I'm more used to this presentation. Bundling the stuff for one version together. :) Aug 17 07:36:33 stefan_schmidt_w: the question people were asking was "what version has this specific feature" Aug 17 07:41:49 so.. we get home from our evening out, about 3:30 after the bedtime of the youngest boy child. he's still up, but he's being completely silent watching Dr. Who. How do we be mad? Aug 17 07:45:33 rwhitby: hmm, the table solves that, right. Still hard to read if you want to see what happened in what version. But I'm happy if you guys want to keep it this way Aug 17 07:46:27 ShiftyAxel|Away: https://github.com/opticq/Heritage Aug 17 07:48:42 well, the changelog in the app description in preware has the by-version list Aug 17 07:49:49 rwhitby: ah, thats good. :) Aug 17 08:46:05 folks Aug 17 09:10:14 hey bhuey Aug 17 10:20:32 hey rwhitby how goes it ? Aug 17 10:20:44 congratulation on the lsm release Aug 17 12:05:32 good morning Aug 17 12:07:02 howdy doodley doo Aug 17 12:12:52 EricBlade: just looking at the Heritage library you posted last night, looks cool Aug 17 15:20:21 ShiftyAxel: yea i saw that you had posted something similar, so i thought i'd link you to that one Aug 17 15:21:29 the one you posted is 100% more complete and functional than mine :P Aug 17 15:21:41 I think I'll concentrate on Luna work Aug 17 15:43:44 uh.. HP just created a division for tablets. http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/17/3249425/hp-mobility-gbu-consumer-tablets-alberto-torres Aug 17 15:47:43 what a STUPID behavoiur.... Aug 17 15:48:08 touch a tray icon on a active window 2x in a row...CLOSE the app :P Aug 17 15:48:47 tomorrow will be 1 year since the Apotherkerlypse. My how time flies. Aug 17 15:49:22 that sounds like a crazy move... Aug 17 15:50:09 AardvarkEng, ? Aug 17 15:50:23 The HP thing, that is... Aug 17 16:22:39 interesting Aug 17 16:25:43 hello boys Aug 17 16:28:42 what is the preferred place to report issues? Aug 17 16:30:39 issues.webos-ports.org Aug 17 16:32:25 Ok I will register there so I can log an issue Aug 17 16:34:07 I did post it in the thread also Aug 17 16:46:20 How goes it? Aug 17 16:47:25 Mega busy, but still finding time to play with LunaCE :S Aug 17 16:49:32 Good! Aug 17 16:49:44 What version are you rocking? Aug 17 16:50:59 So HP is creating "mobility division" for consumer tablets with former MeeGo Head: so do they think consumers will buy full win tablets?--http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/17/3249425/hp-mobility-gbu-consumer-tablets-alberto-torres Aug 17 16:52:49 4.3.2 Aug 17 16:54:23 So they dump webOS and creat a new GBU for tablets... Hmmmm shows how much they believe in webOS don't it? Aug 17 16:54:35 yep Aug 17 16:55:05 well they said no RT tablet either but I suppose torres could reverse that Aug 17 16:55:23 do we really care here? we are trying to work with what we already have...not lament about what we have lost Aug 17 16:57:00 we moan because we care Aug 17 16:57:32 ka6sox: you are ahead of us, we will catch up to you soon Aug 17 16:58:09 Hey the smiley keys don't work on the vkb in lunace.. Aug 17 16:58:45 OMG...call the Bug Squad....Smiley Keys are missing!!!!! Aug 17 16:59:17 in the meantime, you can have some of mine :) :) :) :) Aug 17 16:59:21 Code red! I have to type smileys they old-fashioned way ;) Aug 17 16:59:56 post-it note Aug 17 16:59:58 I'm more concerned about the decryption problem in Mojo apps but hey :) Aug 17 17:00:03 stuck on your tablet Aug 17 17:00:30 I need to open a proper issue for it Aug 17 17:01:32 Grabber5_0, define the issue please Aug 17 17:04:53 trying to get more data, but the scenario is I can't open a db in Keyring Aug 17 17:05:34 Failed opening my current data, so I uninstalled and re-installed, creating a new e.db., and it can't open that error. Aug 17 17:05:38 either Aug 17 17:05:38 that would seem to be expected behaviour Aug 17 17:05:48 that is not expected Aug 17 17:05:58 (the latter) Aug 17 17:06:07 agreed Aug 17 17:06:30 but still characterize it so we can look. Aug 17 17:07:02 it's getting null or undefined back from Mojo.Model.decrypt when I press 'Unlock' after typing in the password Aug 17 17:07:55 IRC info gets lost...best to put on issues.webos-ports.org Aug 17 17:08:03 the error that actually shows in Lumberjack says 'no method update on undefined' because the value returned from decrypt was undefined Aug 17 17:08:25 I have the source code for Keyring on my laptop Aug 17 17:09:00 so possibly keyring needs to be updated... Aug 17 17:09:19 understood. I posted in the forum thread this morning but will open an issue. I was hoping to get more data before I opened the issue. Aug 17 17:10:10 Keyring has a debug mode, I need to figure out how to enable it. I haven't heard fro the dev in some time Aug 17 17:11:20 I suspect any Mojo app that uses that method will have issues, but I don't know what other ones to try Aug 17 17:13:41 guess it's time to search the source code of the apps on my Touchpad :) Aug 17 17:14:05 Grabber5_0, thanks! Aug 17 17:15:54 Do those messages show in red because my username is in them? I'm an ice noob Aug 17 17:17:32 Stupid auto-correct. An irc noob. Aug 17 17:20:40 Grabber5_0, yup Aug 17 17:22:14 ok. at first I thought it might be a PM but decided it prob wasnt. Aug 17 17:22:46 thanks ka6sox-away :) Aug 17 17:23:43 does it have to be at the beginning of a msg? that will be useful info if I'm talking to someone about an issue on here. Aug 17 17:24:12 And I'll stop asking dumb questions now and try to get that issue logged :) Aug 17 17:24:26 anywhere in the text Aug 17 17:25:40 I have to say wirc blows away any web-based irc clients I have used :cheers: Aug 17 17:33:57 issue has been logged Aug 17 17:34:02 Hi guys Aug 17 17:35:55 I noticed you guys are working on "LunaSysMgr CE for Pre3". Has any work been done for the Veer? I got a few Veers laying around that I can test things with when required :) Aug 17 17:39:45 ~eta Aug 17 17:39:46 extra, extra, read all about it, eta is We do not provide ETA's. for more information view http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/ETA Aug 17 17:40:37 :D Aug 17 17:42:49 Harrie, everything we have is here: Aug 17 17:42:52 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LunaSysMgr_CE_for_Pre3 Aug 17 17:43:32 If it's not there, we probably don't have anything :/ Aug 17 17:44:41 Grabber5_0: how's the room been? Aug 17 17:45:03 I've been unavailable... On my cell, so it can is the the easiest Aug 17 17:45:18 Err... Irc isn't the easieat Aug 17 17:45:28 You get the point Aug 17 17:45:40 Fairly quiet since I got here.. I was able to dominate the discussion with my issue Aug 17 17:45:56 What's the issue? Aug 17 17:46:00 hehe yeah I got it Aug 17 17:46:32 Ok, I found the Pre3 site ;) Aug 17 17:47:08 Just wondered if anything was done for the Veer... Not asking ETA etc ;) Are there plans to update the Wiki structure, because the Pre3 site is quite hard to find? Aug 17 17:47:12 Just opened an issue on it - Keyring not getting data from Mojo.Model.decrypt, so you can't open any db's under LunaCE. Aug 17 17:47:40 The encryption has changed between owo and prop Aug 17 17:47:54 So that would make sense Aug 17 17:48:51 it made sense for old db'ss but even new ones created in LunaCE won't open. Does that mean that any app that uses it has to be patched? Aug 17 17:49:45 Unless we come up with a interception function Aug 17 17:50:02 I'll look into it Aug 17 17:50:20 Did you put the issue on the wiki? Aug 17 17:51:01 It's somewhat of a known issue, but the bug tracker helps Aug 17 17:51:03 do you mean in addition to opening the issue in ChiliProject? Aug 17 17:51:30 I thought it might be, so Keyring was one of the first apps I checked. Aug 17 17:51:52 Sorry, there are a couple trackers. The chiliproject is fine Aug 17 17:53:07 hmm that was the only tracker I noticed Aug 17 17:53:37 It's okay. Aug 17 17:53:59 The other one is internal if I remember right Aug 17 17:54:21 ok I feel better, the wiki led me there :) Aug 17 17:54:29 I'm on my cell, so again... Hard for me to check in things Aug 17 17:54:54 np.. I'm going to drop off for a while so I can keep my day job. ;) Aug 17 17:55:18 I need to do the same Aug 17 17:56:18 is there a proper way to log out? Aug 17 17:56:33 or do I just toss this card away and disconnect in the main one? Aug 17 17:57:29 You can throw away the main one and it'll log you out and close all the other ones for you Aug 17 17:57:35 I'm assuming wirc? Aug 17 17:57:53 thx. yes, wirc. Aug 17 18:30:06 since HP is releasing tablets, are we going to be able to work with them to get webos running on those offerings? Aug 17 18:32:06 Have they actually announced anything about said tablets? Aug 17 18:32:13 nothing solid Aug 17 18:32:30 Then that's pretty well going to mirror anything we can say about it :) Aug 17 18:32:40 http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/17/hp-mobility-division-tablets-alberto-torres/ Aug 17 18:32:45 but you know how these things are Aug 17 18:33:02 i'm just thinking hypothetically Aug 17 18:33:06 if they do release tablets Aug 17 18:33:13 I do; if they're ARM windows 8 tablets it will be terribly difficult/impossible, probably Aug 17 18:33:34 Because of how Windows 8 ARM OEM guidelines are on Secure Boot (as opposed to x86) Aug 17 18:33:48 a meego guy though... Aug 17 18:33:50 oh, because of windows ...yeah Aug 17 18:35:30 But like I said, we don't know enough to say whether we can even begin porting, much less whether we can actually succeed Aug 17 18:35:38 * HaDAk|work dies Aug 17 18:40:24 I hate to do this again guys, but... Aug 17 18:40:32 ~eta Aug 17 18:40:32 rumour has it, eta is We do not provide ETA's. for more information view http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/ETA Aug 17 18:41:36 Especially because we don't know ANY solid info Aug 17 18:47:35 Right Aug 17 18:47:54 LarrySteeze|Cell: We haven't even got to "can it be done Aug 17 18:48:00 LarrySteeze|Cell: We haven't even got to "can it be done", we weren't talking eta! ;) Aug 17 18:50:03 If I could copy and paste hadaks question about if we will be able to do it, I would Aug 17 18:50:19 Unfortunately, this client won't do it Aug 17 18:51:08 :P Aug 17 18:51:16 larry is a hater Aug 17 18:52:02 Naw, just someone who doesn't want to answer superfluous questions :) Aug 17 18:53:53 CATER TO MY EGO Aug 17 18:53:56 or something Aug 17 18:54:03 CATER MY EGGOS Aug 17 19:11:05 Eh? Aug 17 19:11:20 I am no hater... And no ego either! Aug 17 19:11:48 Just can't answer questions that don't have an answer yet Aug 17 19:35:34 larrysteeves: ready to test if you have something Aug 17 20:02:56 I'm not sleeve! Aug 17 20:13:10 or steeves, there's only one LarrySteeze|Cell Aug 17 20:13:22 except for the army of clones Aug 17 20:51:44 larrysteeze: i meant the cloned one of you Aug 17 20:54:03 this is the alternate universe larrysteeze who has a openwebos tablet, set-top box, pc tabletop and matching phones for each one Aug 17 20:54:11 i'm talking to him Aug 17 20:54:18 and only him Aug 17 20:56:29 Hi all Aug 17 20:57:21 I installed woce 4.3.2 and I have some problems with accounts Aug 17 20:57:37 I'm giving you this feedback ;) Aug 17 20:57:46 sorry Aug 17 20:57:54 I mean LunaCE 4.3.2 Aug 17 20:58:46 when I try to reinstert the passwords I receive "Unknown error" Aug 17 20:59:44 in pretty all accounts Aug 17 21:00:09 (mail, linkedin, yahoo...etc..) Aug 17 21:05:37 DMeister: Did you have an unlock pin? Aug 17 21:10:37 no Aug 17 21:10:58 (sorry for my delay, I was away from my pc) Aug 17 21:12:10 It hasn't happend to me yet but I don't use a pin - someone else will know more about the changes to encryption Aug 17 21:13:57 ok Aug 17 21:14:22 anyway is a feedback for who is working on, I can solve with the palm lunasysmgr Aug 17 21:14:24 ;) Aug 17 21:14:51 good work :D Aug 17 21:16:01 also because the Bug tracker doens't seems to work Aug 17 21:18:13 Are you going here? http://issues.webos-ports.org/projects/luna-sysmgr Aug 17 21:25:57 the accounts failure is a known problem, but we have few to no leads on it. if you could gather some logs and either pastebin them or put them on the wiki it would be much appreciated Aug 17 21:45:57 sorry ShiftyAxel Aug 17 21:46:08 how can I have access to the logs? Aug 17 21:46:49 DMeister: I havea solution for you that will likely work Aug 17 21:47:02 I helped k4ever resolve it Aug 17 21:47:13 he was going to document in on the wiki Aug 17 21:47:25 LarrySteeze: we have a potential fix? Aug 17 21:48:06 ShiftyAxel: not necessarily a fix, but a workaround, I suppose Aug 17 21:48:20 hmm Aug 17 21:48:26 it's due to the encryption. I don't know that there's really a "fix" but a way to make it work Aug 17 21:48:30 have you guys seen jquerymobile.com? Aug 17 21:48:58 ShiftyAxel: ooh did somebody else have my issue? Aug 17 21:49:05 and EricBlade ignored it :P Aug 17 21:49:21 HaDaK|work: which issue Aug 17 21:49:29 the accounts issue Aug 17 21:49:36 where it's throwing an unknown error Aug 17 21:49:38 several people had the issue Aug 17 21:49:52 * HaDAk|work was the first Aug 17 21:50:06 Eh? Aug 17 21:50:26 that would insinuate that you were the first to try lunace Aug 17 21:50:44 ;-) Aug 17 21:51:06 no. but nobody else had the same issue as me Aug 17 21:51:21 until later. Aug 17 21:52:30 that you know of ;-) unless I don't know about your error and it's something different than I am thinking? Aug 17 21:52:43 hey LarrySteeze can you link that post you are talking about? Aug 17 21:53:13 thanks :) Aug 17 21:53:30 DMeister: I'm not aware of the post, but I can walk you through it. First, however, could you give me a brief description of the exact error so that I may ensure it it is the same error I am thinking of? Aug 17 21:54:07 i'm going to go home. you chaps have a dandy evenin' Aug 17 21:54:30 HaDAk|work: are you going to be on at home? Aug 17 21:54:35 I can try to help you resolve yours as well Aug 17 21:55:21 Are there any gfx guys here? Aug 17 22:00:38 ok: after I installed the LunaCE I obtained "you have to reinsert the accounts passwords" - ok, google works so-so, the others "unknown error" Aug 17 22:01:02 LarrySteeze: prolly Aug 17 22:02:14 HaDAk|work: alright, let me know when you're around and if you're still having the account issue, I"ll try to help you with it Aug 17 22:02:29 the fix I had work with k4ever is relatively simple Aug 17 22:03:06 just tried to delete and reinsert the entire account IT DON'T WORKS Aug 17 22:03:50 *xD doesn't Aug 17 22:03:53 DMeister: do me a favor? Aug 17 22:03:56 yes Aug 17 22:04:04 please install the palm binary Aug 17 22:04:10 ok ;) Aug 17 22:04:12 so in os applications, it's under recovery Aug 17 22:04:38 it'll prompt you to restart your touchpad. let me know when it's done. Aug 17 22:04:48 ok ;) Aug 17 22:09:41 done Aug 17 22:10:22 ok Aug 17 22:10:22 now Aug 17 22:10:34 while having restored, please delete all accounts besides your palm profile Aug 17 22:11:23 all? XD Aug 17 22:11:36 yes Aug 17 22:11:39 it will require a few minutes Aug 17 22:11:46 I know it's a pain, but it's worked for the people I've walked through it Aug 17 22:11:58 and I'm sorry that you have to do it Aug 17 22:12:22 yes also because it doesn't work Aug 17 22:12:25 with Aug 17 22:12:33 palm luna too! XD Aug 17 22:12:39 I'm deleting all Aug 17 22:13:09 what doesn't work...the accounts? Aug 17 22:13:13 or deleting them Aug 17 22:13:22 no reinsert passwords Aug 17 22:13:25 with palm luna Aug 17 22:13:51 ah Aug 17 22:14:02 Yeah, that's a known issue Aug 17 22:14:13 xD Aug 17 22:14:17 ok Aug 17 22:14:53 all set? Aug 17 22:15:20 man... I have some gb of emails xD Aug 17 22:15:47 and I have 10 accounts xD Aug 17 22:16:06 I'm sorry Aug 17 22:16:19 this is the only way that has been found at this point that resolves the issue Aug 17 22:16:21 no problem, I did with knowing was an alpha ;) Aug 17 22:17:49 when you're all set with that, and this may be an unnecessary step, but it's worked in the past, reboot your touchpad (without installing anything) and let me know when it's back up Aug 17 22:18:04 also I'm one of the italian webos community managers, if I don't try these things who have to do? XD Aug 17 22:18:53 I'm glad to hear we have someone so involved in our midst! Aug 17 22:19:18 Have I to reinsert accounts before the reboot or after? Aug 17 22:19:29 lol, I would test If I had TP, but sadly, only a Pre3 over here Aug 17 22:20:08 Are you kidding? It's a pleasure for me to test all this! Aug 17 22:21:41 no Aug 17 22:21:48 don't reinsert any accounts yet Aug 17 22:21:52 ok Aug 17 22:22:28 just let me know when you've rebooted Aug 17 22:22:56 ok Aug 17 22:30:34 all done Aug 17 22:34:06 LarrySteeze: ^ Aug 17 22:39:20 sorry Aug 17 22:39:24 GodGinrai: thanks Aug 17 22:39:31 DMeister: you still around? Aug 17 22:39:35 yw Aug 17 22:39:55 I am *WAY* too connected with technology Aug 17 22:40:25 trying to build the new release while being DM'ed on twitter, facebook, texted, emailed etc. next time I go on vacation, I'm going where I don't have service Aug 17 22:40:32 yes sorry Aug 17 22:40:34 xD Aug 17 22:40:35 it's ok Aug 17 22:40:47 lol Aug 17 22:41:02 LarrySteeze, airplane mode ftw? Aug 17 22:41:11 scoutcamper: doesn't help when I'm on the computer Aug 17 22:41:18 I use google voice, my texts go to chrome Aug 17 22:41:32 HAH! Aug 17 22:41:46 and github emails me 30 times a second Aug 17 22:41:47 * scoutcamper has this convinient wifi on/off switch Aug 17 22:42:04 scoutcamper: yes, but I'm on irc. How can I be on irc without the net? Aug 17 22:42:13 anyway, DMeister Aug 17 22:42:14 iptables Aug 17 22:42:16 I done all Aug 17 22:42:20 ^did Aug 17 22:42:29 as a recap, you have recovered, restarted, removed all accounts, restarted Aug 17 22:42:33 LarrySteeze, dialup for irc. nothing else would work :P Aug 17 22:42:34 and that is where we are at, right? Aug 17 22:42:53 yes Aug 17 22:43:12 ok Aug 17 22:43:17 now install LunaCE Aug 17 22:43:26 ok Aug 17 22:43:55 have you a newest version, before I install the 4.3.2?? xD Aug 17 22:43:57 ahahaha Aug 17 22:43:59 i'd have given you all steps at once, but when I do that, people tend to skip steps or add extra ones Aug 17 22:44:09 I do, but it's not ready for release Aug 17 22:44:21 aka it's not done Aug 17 22:44:21 good to know ;) Aug 17 22:44:29 :P Aug 17 22:47:28 DMeister: let me know when you've rebooted again Aug 17 22:47:46 ok Aug 17 22:47:59 after the installation of LunaCE that is Aug 17 22:48:06 and please tell me you haven't added any accounts yet Aug 17 22:50:59 ok done Aug 17 22:51:15 no I haven't add nothing Aug 17 22:51:18 *added Aug 17 22:51:20 yet Aug 17 22:51:28 ok good Aug 17 22:51:37 so you've installed LunaCE and rebooted? Aug 17 22:51:44 double negative! he added things!! Aug 17 22:51:46 :P Aug 17 22:52:17 yes Aug 17 22:52:28 ok Aug 17 22:52:38 now you may add your accounts back. Aug 17 22:52:46 I recommend adding ONE account and testing to make sure it works Aug 17 22:52:51 before going through the process of adding them all Aug 17 22:53:15 ok Aug 17 22:53:47 please let me know the results as you know them Aug 17 22:54:23 it doesn't work Aug 17 22:54:29 same issue Aug 17 22:54:31 of before Aug 17 22:54:41 linkedin doesn't work Aug 17 22:54:54 really Aug 17 22:55:08 LinkedIn isn't a default account, is it? Aug 17 22:55:13 skype works Aug 17 22:55:21 was skype working before? Aug 17 22:55:40 yes Aug 17 22:55:43 ok Aug 17 22:55:48 dropbox doesn't Aug 17 22:55:55 so this process didn't fix skype then, it already was workign Aug 17 22:56:27 yeah Aug 17 22:57:05 ~_~ Aug 17 22:57:21 I'm wondering why it fixes some but not yours Aug 17 22:57:38 xD Aug 17 22:58:30 lol, sounds like Microsoft :P Aug 17 22:58:40 what patches do you have installed Aug 17 22:58:45 many xD Aug 17 22:58:46 not that it should make a difference Aug 17 22:58:49 wait Aug 17 22:59:12 I found it Aug 17 22:59:14 http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/317427-lunace-4-x-formerly-uberlunah-4-x-5.html#post3344300 Aug 17 22:59:19 Messenger plugins could make a difference, couldn't it? Aug 17 22:59:23 thats not on the wiki though Aug 17 22:59:40 * rrix wonders if citrusfruit ever got stuff working last night Aug 17 22:59:52 I suppose messenger plugins could make a difference, but they shouldn't unless they have any login data Aug 17 23:00:25 rrix: I did a handoff to you and you logged off without helping her? Aug 17 23:00:38 LarrySteeze: I didn't log off, I just never heard from her Aug 17 23:00:43 hmm Aug 17 23:00:52 "message me when you're done compiling/need help" Aug 17 23:01:07 speaking of Aug 17 23:01:12 I think I finished compiling :D Aug 17 23:01:17 :) Aug 17 23:01:25 I have these patches: Ad Blocker - Add Download Link option - Advanced Reset Option IT - Autostart Exhibition - Buttah - Disable Search Engine Browser Notifications - ... Aug 17 23:01:39 DMeister: http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/317427-lunace-4-x-formerly-uberlunah-4-x-5.html#post3344300 Aug 17 23:01:43 proof that it works for some! Aug 17 23:01:48 Enyo Smooth Scrolling - Faster Card Animations HYPER Version Aug 17 23:01:53 * rrix breaks enyo2's nose Aug 17 23:02:43 * LarrySteeze is getting sick of webos on his evo 3d Aug 17 23:02:50 too many bugs :-\ Aug 17 23:02:52 lol Aug 17 23:03:13 LarrySteeze: it's awesome on the Evo 4d Aug 17 23:03:48 err Aug 17 23:03:51 android, not webos Aug 17 23:03:52 Homebrew Pivot - Mojo FPS Booster - Mojo Smooth Scrolling - Mojo Tap Resposiveness - More standby times - Private Browsing - Reduce Minimum Brightness - Remove Dropped Packet Logging - Show Filenames - Unhide Dev Mode Icon - Unset CFQ IO Scheduler - Unthrottle Download Manager Aug 17 23:03:54 that's all! Aug 17 23:03:58 lol Aug 17 23:04:02 LarrySteeze, is that the same phone PuffTheMagic got it running on? Aug 17 23:04:03 oh Aug 17 23:04:20 every time I turn off the screen, it turns itself back on. I hve to turn it off twice Aug 17 23:04:29 XD Aug 17 23:04:36 I swear puff got a webos image booting on something, but it definitely wasn't usable Aug 17 23:04:41 so Have I to delete all patches? Aug 17 23:05:11 * rrix ports LarrySteeze to webOS Aug 17 23:05:42 Someone got it running on the N9, IIRC, as a comeback to the webOS porting hoax Aug 17 23:06:47 I remember seeing the video of that Aug 17 23:06:55 neat idea Aug 17 23:07:11 i think they used a chroot and some homemade modules or something Aug 17 23:07:38 men?? Aug 17 23:08:05 I still have the issue... the only solution is to make a doctor? Aug 17 23:08:09 DMeister: Try highlighting LarrySteeze Aug 17 23:08:31 xD Aug 17 23:08:33 what? Aug 17 23:08:58 Is my skin not bright enough as it is, you have to color me with a highlighter? Aug 17 23:09:15 I have to repeat the same procedure or to do a doctor? XD Aug 17 23:09:51 *Have I Aug 17 23:10:00 never heard of the term highlight? Aug 17 23:10:12 yes Aug 17 23:10:36 I understand it, I'm just being funny...but apparently without the funny part Aug 17 23:10:43 xD Aug 17 23:10:51 so I guess I'm just being Aug 17 23:11:13 I have that problem too, Larry Aug 17 23:11:14 lol Aug 17 23:11:24 olèèè Aug 17 23:11:26 DMeister: If that did not work for you, and those accounts are important for you to have on your TP, the only known fix is to doctor. You shouldn't have to, but at the moment, that's where we are Aug 17 23:11:31 xDDDD Aug 17 23:11:51 and do NOT install LunaCE if you need those accounts until there is a fix by HP or ourselves Aug 17 23:12:01 ok, :) Aug 17 23:13:01 now I'm trying again that procedure, then if doesn't works I'll doctor, but first I have to save my data - long thing to do because I have to save also some apps ;) Aug 17 23:13:40 I mean IPKs Aug 17 23:13:53 I hope it works for you the second time DM Aug 17 23:14:19 hope too ;) Aug 17 23:19:13 nothing to do sadly... Aug 17 23:19:54 Anyway... my touchpad wasn't un-doctored from january so... no problem :) a re-fresh can be a good thing after 8 months ahah Aug 17 23:21:59 google works Aug 17 23:22:26 not well Aug 17 23:22:28 xD Aug 17 23:22:34 lol Aug 17 23:23:49 I'm going to sleep, thanks for your help LarrySteeze ;) Aug 17 23:24:02 DMeister: I'm sorry it didn't work for you Aug 17 23:24:11 no problem ;) Aug 17 23:24:22 have a good rest Aug 17 23:24:38 you too :) Aug 17 23:24:56 (probably not now, xD in some hours) Aug 17 23:25:51 bye Aug 18 00:08:54 bluen, HaDAk: you around to test something for us? Aug 18 00:09:10 sure Aug 18 00:11:31 bluen: do you remember how to put the files you need to? Aug 18 00:11:34 that includes the json Aug 18 00:12:00 because theres a new json Aug 18 00:12:16 i know the process for the file (binary?) that we did last night, i don't remember anything else. Aug 18 00:12:46 ok Aug 18 00:12:53 I'm going to email you two files Aug 18 00:12:58 a binary and a .json Aug 18 00:13:06 can you put them on the link i gave you yesterday? Aug 18 00:13:25 I can, but please md5sum it before installing it Aug 18 00:13:36 obviously yeseterday there was an issue Aug 18 00:13:44 ok, sounds good Aug 18 00:14:15 can you please give me the link again? Aug 18 00:14:21 I can't find it in our log Aug 18 00:14:48 if you log into pogoplug, the webos ports folder will show up under your shared folders--they call them team folders Aug 18 00:15:06 my.pogoplug.com i'm assuming? Aug 18 00:15:15 pogoplug.com is fine Aug 18 00:15:16 whatever Aug 18 00:15:32 ok Aug 18 00:16:31 morning all Aug 18 00:16:43 definitely morning here Aug 18 00:16:58 bluen: it will only let me upload one file at once Aug 18 00:17:04 I need to give you two Aug 18 00:18:32 aha Aug 18 00:18:34 I'm having an issue with tweaks now. I installed 4.3.2, then did an epr because some of my patches stop working. now there are no Luna tweaks available in tweaks 3.0.1 Aug 18 00:18:35 I got it Aug 18 00:19:02 k4ever: did you do a LunaCE recovery? Aug 18 00:19:42 bluen: all set Aug 18 00:19:59 LarrySteeze: No, is that just reinstalling LunaCE? Aug 18 00:20:12 please put the json in /mediacryptofs/apps/usr/palm/services/org.webosinternals.tweaks.prefs/preferences/ Aug 18 00:20:18 and the binary in the normal place Aug 18 00:20:30 larrysteeze: just so you know, I uninstalled last night's effort, did recovery and then installed preware Aug 18 00:20:41 preware version of lunace Aug 18 00:20:49 bluen: perfect Aug 18 00:21:10 k4ever: go into preware, os applications, recovery, and install taht Aug 18 00:21:12 *that Aug 18 00:21:26 then install lunace again Aug 18 00:21:32 and see if it fixes it Aug 18 00:21:56 k4ever: how are your synergy accounts? Aug 18 00:22:01 still working? Aug 18 00:22:23 yes they are working quite well. Aug 18 00:22:38 good Aug 18 00:22:48 larrysteeze: lunasys is 4.3 GB so looks good but perhaps we open a pm so you can walk me thru process again including checking md5sum Aug 18 00:22:51 I tried to walk someone through the same fix today and it didn't work :-( Aug 18 00:22:59 wait Aug 18 00:23:04 4.3 GIGS? Aug 18 00:23:13 that is WAY too big Aug 18 00:23:36 should be closer to 4.6 megs Aug 18 00:24:22 4.3 mb sorry Aug 18 00:24:33 am copying a movie so have GB on my mind Aug 18 00:24:47 LarrySteeze: so you want me to reinstall palm lsm, then install Luna CE? Aug 18 00:25:58 I am on stock luna by the way, i never did reinstall preware lunace Aug 18 00:26:11 yes Aug 18 00:27:12 ok will be back in a few minutes Aug 18 00:32:46 bluen: what is the md5sum? Aug 18 00:33:03 in terminal, navigate to the folder you have LSM in and type md5sum LunaSysMgr Aug 18 00:34:15 02823c8721bf80171763223d2edfb786 LunaSysMgr Aug 18 00:35:35 wrong Aug 18 00:35:39 we don't want to use it Aug 18 00:36:00 something is wrong with the way my files upload to your pogoplug Aug 18 00:36:24 bluen: are you familiar with how to use github? Aug 18 00:36:41 no, why dont you give me a link to your dropbox or whatever Aug 18 00:36:43 too bad Aug 18 00:39:22 ok I have an issue. Luna CE will not uninstall. I install palm lsm and instead of removing Luna CE, it just installed palm lsm right next to it. I tried to remove Luna CE and I got an error. Aug 18 00:42:25 bluen: give me a moment. I'll have to add dropbox to this machine Aug 18 00:42:39 box.net is fine also Aug 18 00:43:15 o.o Aug 18 00:43:17 I don't use box.net Aug 18 00:43:19 but Aug 18 00:43:21 or now that you have pogoplug, you can probably give me a share to your folder and i will upload directly Aug 18 00:43:39 dropbox gives me a 404 Aug 18 00:43:46 I actually have dropbox on other machines Aug 18 00:43:52 v Aug 18 00:43:53 https://linux.dropbox.com/packages/ubuntu/dropbox_1.4.0_amd64.deb Aug 18 00:43:56 just invite me to your folder where you store this Aug 18 00:43:57 get a 404? Aug 18 00:44:14 my pogoplug si not currently attached to a HDD Aug 18 00:44:45 ok, is link above to linux.dropbox what you want me to use? Aug 18 00:46:12 box.net is easy and there is an app on webos devices Aug 18 00:46:50 no Aug 18 00:47:01 it's the install that I would need on mine Aug 18 00:47:04 what do I need to do to uninstall Luna CE 4.3.2 from my machine since it refuses to uninstall with preware? Aug 18 00:47:07 but it gives me a 404 Aug 18 00:47:24 k4ever: the palm binary installed? Aug 18 00:48:07 the palm binary installed right next to Luna CE. preware showed them both installed after a reboot. Aug 18 00:48:11 install LunaCE and then uninstall it. Then put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up. Aug 18 00:48:47 call me in the morning? O.o no let me know if that doesn't uninstall Aug 18 00:49:24 larrysteeze: invited you as editor to webos ports folder on my box.com account; you can use browser or webos app to get into this. your invite is in your gmail account Aug 18 00:52:26 bluen: check out your box.net Aug 18 00:53:00 67a0996cdcead32ce7d4a184972951ee LunaSysMgr Aug 18 00:53:45 looks good Aug 18 00:53:49 and the json? Aug 18 00:54:00 i have it Aug 18 00:54:08 md5sum? Aug 18 00:54:35 should be 4bb6916d65d47abaf2d04a6f55840979 Aug 18 00:54:59 4bb6916d65d47abaf2d04a6f55840979 devicenamecarriertext.json Aug 18 00:55:23 ok, so your devices don't like pogo but do ok with box.com, good to know Aug 18 00:56:08 i have the instructions to install the lunace but don't remember the json or which order the files have to be installed Aug 18 00:57:11 ok Aug 18 00:57:16 I'd install the json first Aug 18 00:57:45 basically, navigate to the folder the json is in and run this command Aug 18 00:58:15 novacom put file:///media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/services/org.webosinternals.tweaks.prefs/preferences/deviceNameCarrierText.json < ./deviceNameCarrierText.json Aug 18 00:59:54 getting a lot of weird text with peoples names in it, too much text to copy here Aug 18 01:00:10 what? Aug 18 01:00:15 pastebin it Aug 18 01:05:48 its on box.com --titled weirdtext.rtf Aug 18 01:06:14 could you pastebin it? Aug 18 01:06:25 http://www.pastebin.com Aug 18 01:06:31 do i have to create an account Aug 18 01:06:33 no Aug 18 01:08:47 can you do the box.com, having trouble with pastebin Aug 18 01:09:38 huh? All you do is copy and paste Aug 18 01:09:42 then push submit Aug 18 01:09:49 and copy/paste the url to me Aug 18 01:18:56 ok check this out http://pastebin.com/zBNaQaNc Aug 18 01:19:48 thank you Aug 18 01:20:03 let me check it out Aug 18 01:23:48 that is quite strange Aug 18 01:25:56 downloaded it again, seems to have worked now, moving onto lunasys Aug 18 01:26:13 ...weird Aug 18 01:26:22 ok Aug 18 01:28:01 bluen, I'm in your terminal? oops, I hope I didn't break too much ;) Aug 18 01:28:54 bluen: do you remember the process to put LSM? Aug 18 01:29:07 it reinstalled , shows 4.3.3 Aug 18 01:29:12 ~blame RagingMind Aug 18 01:29:25 ok Aug 18 01:29:38 the entire webos-ports team is in my terminal; its like an oompa-loompa moment Aug 18 01:30:22 interesting, only 1 luna tweak shows up and that show device name as carrier test Aug 18 01:30:24 ~blame RagingMind Aug 18 01:30:24 * WoceBot blames RagingMind for everything Aug 18 01:30:24 text Aug 18 01:31:24 restarting device to see if that helps Aug 18 01:33:49 no luck with tweaks, i will uninstall tweaks and reinstall and see if it takes Aug 18 01:34:58 bedtime, nn all Aug 18 01:35:07 no Aug 18 01:35:09 bluen Aug 18 01:35:17 i think you are missing jsons Aug 18 01:37:23 uh Aug 18 01:37:52 scoutcamper: around? Aug 18 01:39:28 I seriously can not deal with the fact that my cursor will not move right now Aug 18 01:39:42 every time my computer goes through a "slow time" this happens Aug 18 01:39:49 anyone else EVER experience this? Aug 18 01:40:08 still only have 1 tweak available Aug 18 01:40:19 bluen: I think you are missing jsons.? Aug 18 01:40:43 so what do you advise? Aug 18 01:45:17 I'd reinstall LunaCE from preware Aug 18 01:45:27 and then re-follow the instructions I gave you Aug 18 01:46:06 i started with stock luna, should i have started with preware lunace? Aug 18 01:46:51 yes Aug 18 01:48:06 i'd like to uninstall your version before I install recovery, is that possible Aug 18 01:48:17 is there a terminal command to do this? Aug 18 01:50:21 no Aug 18 01:50:44 we actually replaced your LSM file with the binary Aug 18 01:51:41 installing recovery lunasysmgr Aug 18 01:52:49 is there a way to check that recovery installed all files before I start with lunace Aug 18 01:53:24 there's only one file for it to install Aug 18 01:53:31 if its up and running, it installed Aug 18 01:53:48 lunaCE would install additional files Aug 18 01:54:32 its got a tweak, show device name as carrier text. Does that come with recovery? or should i try this again? Aug 18 01:57:35 it doesn Aug 18 01:57:37 err Aug 18 01:57:39 it doesn't BUT Aug 18 01:57:51 that tweak was added by you with the commands I gave you Aug 18 01:58:14 so you need not worry Aug 18 01:58:57 but doesnt recovery take it back to stock? so why is that command still there? I would like to go completely back to stock before i start with lunace Aug 18 02:00:36 isn't there a recovery patch to remove tweaks that won't otherwise go away? Aug 18 02:01:55 ok running EPR Aug 18 02:04:15 you could just delete the file Aug 18 02:04:22 with internalz or something of the sort Aug 18 02:04:38 bluen: to answer your question, at an educated guess, while the palm luna recovery install will install the lunasysmgr binary, it doesn't necessarily remove any tweaks that might be associated with your testing Aug 18 02:04:48 the tweaks .json files, that is Aug 18 02:05:23 epr did it Aug 18 02:05:30 good Aug 18 02:05:38 but you need to readd it to test anyway Aug 18 02:05:47 or are you done trying to test? Aug 18 02:06:13 no i wanted to get back to neutral state before testing. I am now adding preware lunace Aug 18 02:07:20 ok Aug 18 02:08:07 touchpad restarting Aug 18 02:12:56 more applauncher patch appears to have messed up quicklauncher, epr did not erase it so the photoicon is on top of the tweaks icon, installing the patch again Aug 18 02:18:06 lagoldste: how familiar are you with novacom or novaterm? Aug 18 02:20:43 i've followed the instructions on webos-internals well enough, then wrote a script or two so i wouldn't have to remember it ;) (i'm a unix sysadmin) Aug 18 02:21:10 i'm in the middle of a pile of dns changes for $ork atm Aug 18 02:21:22 what did you have in mind? Aug 18 02:21:42 I need some testers for the newest alpha before we release it Aug 18 02:22:09 but I am tired, so I need people who already know how to put a json and replace LSM Aug 18 02:22:21 or can at least follow instructions well :P Aug 18 02:22:30 ok i think i am back to lunace; the patch was hard to uninstall, when it uninstalled i had the icons on top of each other Aug 18 02:22:38 can't do it right now, but would be happy to later. when did you want to release? Aug 18 02:22:42 ok Aug 18 02:22:55 unknown. We need enough testers before we release Aug 18 02:23:02 ah. Aug 18 02:23:06 bluen: understood. everything is good now though? Aug 18 02:24:25 i think so, starting from lunace now. If this is the case that we need to start from lunace and not from stock to test, perhaps good to have this instruction some place Aug 18 02:25:57 rebooting Aug 18 02:26:50 just has the one tweaks patch still Aug 18 02:27:00 it had all 7 with lunace in preware Aug 18 02:28:00 LarrySteeze: i'd probably copy stuff over with scp though. novacom's a bit of a pain ;) Aug 18 02:28:04 ok Aug 18 02:31:46 im not having luck with the json file. I can try keeping it in and installing preware lunace with it still in and see if I get 8 tweaks Aug 18 02:34:37 bluen: it's ok Aug 18 02:34:43 I'm about ready to hit the sack Aug 18 02:35:02 tomorrow I will try to get the ipk builder fixed Aug 18 02:35:22 well ive installed the lunace keeping the json file in so if you wait a min, ill just go straight to your luna file and see what happens Aug 18 02:35:53 ok Aug 18 02:36:01 ive got 8 tweaks with preware lunace Aug 18 02:36:14 thats a good thing Aug 18 02:36:27 if you have "show device name as carrier text" you have them all Aug 18 02:37:01 rebooting Aug 18 02:37:50 still have the 8 tweaks and now your luna Aug 18 02:38:01 also my movie is done copying; D Aug 18 02:38:24 lol Aug 18 02:38:54 what do you want me to check? (handbrake is jumping up and down) Aug 18 02:39:25 first make sure fluid gestures is working Aug 18 02:39:59 working, i am going to make a tabbed stack and see if still works, cycling works Aug 18 02:40:14 tabs with fluid is not working in this binary Aug 18 02:40:20 though it is in the next one Aug 18 02:40:43 I just didn't have the heart to tell you there was another binary out in the time you've been trying to get this one to work :P Aug 18 02:41:11 i can put another binary in as long as I dont have to mess with json Aug 18 02:41:13 but it's ok, I haven't even had time to test it Aug 18 02:41:58 ok Aug 18 02:42:20 give me a second and I'll test it before sending it out then Aug 18 02:43:02 is cycling supposed to work with swipe Aug 18 02:43:52 when cards are in full position? it works when minimized, not in full posn Aug 18 02:44:55 it works only with fluid in full position (cycling) Aug 18 02:46:31 i can't get tabs to work in slide or swipe either Aug 18 02:46:38 ok, I have the new binary confirmed working Aug 18 02:47:19 did you test it with cycling and tabs when in swipe/slide? Aug 18 02:47:37 yes Aug 18 02:47:44 hey guys Aug 18 02:47:49 EricBlade!!!!! Aug 18 02:47:52 I missed you :D Aug 18 02:47:58 I need testers. Willing? Aug 18 02:48:09 not available at the moment. Aug 18 02:48:13 ok Aug 18 02:48:16 that's ok Aug 18 02:48:32 what v is the keyboard and notifications fixed in Aug 18 02:48:51 I believe 4.3.1 Aug 18 02:49:38 no Aug 18 02:49:39 unless they regressed in 4.3.2 Aug 18 02:49:56 keyboard is not working? Aug 18 02:50:07 I know notifications had issues in 4.3.2 Aug 18 02:50:07 I feel bad that I don't have time to pay a lot of attention Aug 18 02:50:25 slimey faces and notifications don't work for me on 4.3.2 Aug 18 02:50:32 oh, the smiles Aug 18 02:51:12 smiles are still not resolved Aug 18 02:51:15 its weird because they are the keys that work when the focus is broken Aug 18 02:51:25 input is though Aug 18 02:51:26 Larrysteeze: can you put the latest one in box and can i install it over this one? slide/swipe not working well for me in this version Aug 18 02:51:33 ok Aug 18 02:52:28 bluen: all set. Aug 18 02:52:49 please md5sum Aug 18 02:53:13 mmm. Aug 18 02:53:15 it shoudld match 2ea0cb882005f047b4e6412dc03b391f Aug 18 02:53:20 HaDAk! Aug 18 02:53:24 me Aug 18 02:53:27 yes, you. Aug 18 02:53:49 go easy on me... rough day Aug 18 02:53:57 o.O Aug 18 02:54:02 i'm sorry Aug 18 02:55:04 2ea0cb882005f047b4e6412dc03b391f LunaSysMgr Aug 18 02:55:10 good to go Aug 18 02:56:45 sup hadak Aug 18 02:56:53 ok Aug 18 02:56:55 rebooting with new lunace test Aug 18 02:57:01 cool Aug 18 02:57:03 rough day? come play some poker at the Heidelberg to chill out Aug 18 02:58:14 cool kindle kept the logon Aug 18 02:59:17 whoa stack pile to the right comes up vertical and not diagonal, good job! Aug 18 02:59:45 also tabs is working with fluid, good job! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 18 03:00:00 2012