**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 24 03:00:04 2012
Aug 24 03:58:10 <fxspec06> when in card view, swiping from left or right brings up launcher.
Aug 24 04:05:07 <AMR-1> did the vote for the ports logo happen alrdy?
Aug 24 04:06:52 <fxspec06> doesn't look like it
Aug 24 04:06:55 <ka6sox> its for LunaCE
Aug 24 04:07:33 <ka6sox> and if you have twitter, vote there, send reply to @webosports
Aug 24 04:07:41 <ka6sox> if not, we can take it here too.
Aug 24 11:35:44 <rwhitby> morning
Aug 24 12:51:49 <ShiftyAxel> morning all
Aug 24 16:07:44 <HaDAk-TP> so, it turns out webappmgr is whats causing all my pain.
Aug 24 16:07:53 <HaDAk-TP> looks like a memory leak in that
Aug 24 16:08:36 <ShiftyAxel> HaDAk: there's always been a memleak in webappmgr :(
Aug 24 16:09:00 <HaDAk-TP> https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=91&amp;t=17482
Aug 24 16:09:05 <HaDAk-TP> apparently so
Aug 24 16:09:15 <HaDAk-TP> wish I'd have known about that
Aug 24 16:09:19 * ShiftyAxel crosses his fingers that it's fixed in OWO
Aug 24 16:09:21 <HaDAk-TP> we need that fixed
Aug 24 16:09:30 <ShiftyAxel> 'requested topic does not exist'
Aug 24 16:10:31 <HaDAk-TP> lies
Aug 24 16:10:37 <HaDAk-TP> I was just reading it
Aug 24 16:11:48 <HaDAk-TP> at any rate. its just a bunch of people reporting the same thing.
Aug 24 16:11:59 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, actually fixing it will be the problem...
Aug 24 16:12:12 <ShiftyAxel> first point of business i guess is 'do we have the source?'
Aug 24 16:12:13 <HaDAk-TP> have we gotten any official word from palm on the mattr?
Aug 24 16:12:25 <ShiftyAxel> not that I know, probably better to ask ka6sox
Aug 24 16:12:50 <HaDAk-TP> I doubt we do... something tells me this was rolled in house
Aug 24 16:12:55 <ShiftyAxel> though we haven't reached out about it during WOSP development, so the answer is probably know :P
Aug 24 16:13:00 <ShiftyAxel> s/know/no/
Aug 24 16:13:51 <HaDAk-TP> is ka6sox the one with contacts there?
Aug 24 16:21:07 <ShiftyAxel> he's the project leader
Aug 24 16:46:53 <bluen> morning
Aug 24 16:47:56 <AardvarkEng> morn..
Aug 24 16:48:31 <bluen> open to testing on my spare touchpad, if anyone needs a guinea...pig
Aug 24 20:48:56 <SilverLight> Q: I am trying to work with the github sources as setup in the VBox VM. But when I try to copy them to /svr/share, the symlinks get broken since it is on the host system
Aug 24 20:49:40 <SilverLight> How can I best work with the sources from the host Ubuntu 12.04 machine?
Aug 24 20:51:16 <ShiftyAxel> place the sources w/your host os
Aug 24 20:51:22 <ShiftyAxel> edit them with your host os
Aug 24 20:51:28 <ShiftyAxel> do everything with your host os except for building
Aug 24 20:56:14 <SilverLight> OK, will try that now. tks
Aug 24 20:57:21 <GodGinrai>  I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone use "tks" for thanks
Aug 24 21:07:27 <ShiftyAxel> me too
Aug 24 21:13:42 <SilverLight> u guys deserve a lot more thanks I believe :)
Aug 24 21:14:40 <SilverLight> btw, is tks obseleted or what?
Aug 24 21:35:46 <bhuey> folks
Aug 24 21:36:31 <GodGinrai> SilverLight: Rather than obsoleted, you are the only person I have ever seen use it
Aug 24 21:37:12 <GodGinrai> I've normally just seen: ty, thx, thnks, or just thanks
Aug 24 21:37:48 <SilverLight> lol, ok GodGinrai
Aug 24 21:38:37 <SilverLight> I always use "tks"
Aug 24 21:40:18 <SilverLight> anyway, is there any good documentation available on the WebOS architecture?
Aug 24 21:44:42 <SilverLight> have to go now
Aug 24 21:45:50 <GodGinrai> cya
Aug 24 21:45:55 <ShiftyAxel> adios
Aug 24 21:57:31 <GodGinrai> I'm leaving work now, cya guys
Aug 24 21:59:36 <ShiftyAxel> later GodGinrai
Aug 24 23:06:10 <Grabber5_0> I need a break from reality for a while
Aug 24 23:07:10 <LarrySteeze> a break from reality can be a good thing at times
Aug 24 23:07:27 <LarrySteeze> by the way, good morning all!
Aug 24 23:07:55 <Grabber5_0> you're not from around here are you? :)
Aug 24 23:08:05 <Grabber5_0> good evening
Aug 24 23:08:45 <LarrySteeze> eh?
Aug 24 23:08:50 <LarrySteeze> ~ust
Aug 24 23:09:00 <LarrySteeze> ~udt
Aug 24 23:09:13 <Grabber5_0> huh?
Aug 24 23:09:24 <scoutcamper> ~ugt
Aug 24 23:09:32 <scoutcamper> s0h
Aug 24 23:09:35 <LarrySteeze> aha...but regardless, he appears to be missing
Aug 24 23:09:36 <scoutcamper> where is that bot
Aug 24 23:09:50 <Grabber5_0> I am totally lost now
Aug 24 23:10:00 <LarrySteeze> you'll see in a second :P
Aug 24 23:10:05 <Grabber5_0> I guess that's the break I needed :D
Aug 24 23:10:32 <LarrySteeze> if it makes you feel any better, I'm drinking black tea when I should probably be drinking a beer
Aug 24 23:11:24 <scoutcamper> ~ugt
Aug 24 23:11:24 <WoceBot> well, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
Aug 24 23:12:11 <scoutcamper> ~botsnack
Aug 24 23:12:12 <WoceBot> aw, gee, scoutcamper
Aug 24 23:12:12 <LarrySteeze> holy cow...anyone who wants to see what I have to say for a second, please join #webos-offtopic
Aug 24 23:12:24 <Grabber5_0> Lol
Aug 24 23:14:11 <Grabber5_0> hmm I can't find that channel.. was that serious? :)
Aug 24 23:14:30 <scoutcamper> Grabber5_0, /join #webos-offtopic
Aug 24 23:14:37 <LarrySteeze> yes
Aug 24 23:41:35 <Grabber5_0> Hey Shifty
Aug 24 23:42:01 <Grabber5_0> thankfully no autocorrect happened there :)
Aug 24 23:42:17 * ShiftyAxel has had that happen
Aug 24 23:42:24 <ShiftyAxel> morning Grabber5_0 :)
Aug 24 23:43:14 <LarrySteeze> careful, ShiftyAxel: Grabber5_0 isn't familiar with ugt ;)
Aug 24 23:43:39 <Grabber5_0> Good morning to you as well
Aug 24 23:43:59 <ShiftyAxel> you mean THIS ugt?
Aug 24 23:44:00 <ShiftyAxel> ~ugt
Aug 24 23:44:00 <WoceBot> i heard ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
Aug 24 23:44:26 <Grabber5_0> yeah that one ShiftyAxel
Aug 24 23:44:43 <Grabber5_0> ~etc
Aug 24 23:44:52 <Grabber5_0> hey what happened to that one
Aug 24 23:47:10 <Grabber5_0> Hmm I hope I wrote down my ID and password for the issue log somewhere... :(
Aug 24 23:48:37 <Grabber5_0> Phew I remembered it.  I should save it in Keyring.. except I can't :D
Aug 24 23:52:14 <ShiftyAxel> issue log, you say?
Aug 24 23:53:38 <Grabber5_0> For issues.webOS-ports.org
Aug 24 23:55:04 <Grabber5_0> never fear, it's safe now on my Pre
Aug 25 00:17:10 <bluen> ShiftyAxel: anything to test, I am here.
Aug 25 00:46:43 <LarrySteeze> anyone here consider themselves a twitter professional? (from an organization standpoint)
Aug 25 01:23:29 <bluen> well is a webOS a safer version of an android-like device for the oems? Does HP have patent licensing with Apple?
Aug 25 01:23:45 <bluen> whoops meant this for another forum, sorry
Aug 25 02:02:05 * rrix pops in for a bit
Aug 25 02:02:18 <rrix> I'm ready for another burst of free time :x
Aug 25 02:02:51 <ShiftyAxel> howdy rrix
Aug 25 02:03:00 <rrix> hi ShiftyAxel, what's the word?
Aug 25 02:03:11 <ShiftyAxel> boid, apparently
Aug 25 02:03:50 <ShiftyAxel> discovered that 2.x-style notifications are still present in CE today too, that was a pleasant surprise
Aug 25 02:05:56 <rrix> heh, nice
Aug 25 02:06:09 <rrix> like, the ones that pull up from the bottom?
Aug 25 02:10:28 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, those
Aug 25 02:11:01 <ShiftyAxel> if you modify /etc/palm/luna-platform.conf and disable the VKB, they appear
Aug 25 02:12:23 <rrix> Nice :)
Aug 25 02:12:49 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, something of a tradeoff though :P
Aug 25 02:12:59 <rrix> I have a bluetooth keyboard :P
Aug 25 02:13:36 <ShiftyAxel> I'm working on making them play nice with the VKB
Aug 25 02:14:07 <rrix> Killer :)
Aug 25 02:14:21 <ShiftyAxel> they exhibit some slightly funky behaviour on the lockscreen though
Aug 25 02:14:48 <rrix> They aren't useful like they are on the 2.x lockscreen?
Aug 25 02:14:59 <ShiftyAxel> since they get the full screen width and the lockscreen notification boxes are ~320px, they get squidged
Aug 25 02:15:01 <ShiftyAxel> literally
Aug 25 02:15:11 <rrix> Ouch
Aug 25 02:15:13 <rrix> poor things
Aug 25 02:15:39 * rrix is watching the fifth element
Aug 25 02:16:19 <ShiftyAxel> good movie
Aug 25 02:16:25 <ShiftyAxel> shame i can't remember much of it...
Aug 25 02:16:48 <rrix> hehe
Aug 25 02:17:00 <rrix> My roommate said I needed to watch it if I was going to live with him
Aug 25 02:54:10 <ShiftyAxel> time for sleep, nn all!
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