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Aug 25 05:13:07 <fxspec06> full screen lumberjack with permanent back button on bottom left...
Aug 25 18:53:41 <ShiftyAxel> fxspec06: ping?
Aug 25 19:25:50 <ka6sox> fxspec06, I'm not sure if the lumberjack git repo is moved from git.webos-internals.org or not.
Aug 25 19:26:05 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: it isn't
Aug 25 19:26:18 <ka6sox> its there?
Aug 25 19:26:39 <ShiftyAxel> http://git.webos-internals.org/applications/lumberjack/
Aug 25 19:26:46 <ShiftyAxel> that's where build.git points to
Aug 25 19:27:18 <ka6sox> okay...
Aug 25 19:27:37 <ka6sox> we can ask rwhitby to move it or... ask him what he wants to do.
Aug 25 19:30:14 <ShiftyAxel> sounds sensible to me
Aug 25 21:32:16 <EricBlade1> so .. honest question here.  cnn summarizes the main apple patents that were infringed upon were relating to "software features like double-tap zooming and scrolling", and "hardware style or icon setup".   Should there be any case for worrying about anything we've got here?
Aug 25 21:47:19 <ShiftyAxel> hmm
Aug 25 21:47:50 <ShiftyAxel> I think we're good as far as icon setup goes
Aug 25 21:48:20 <ShiftyAxel> and hardware styling doesn't really apply
Aug 25 21:48:39 <ShiftyAxel> but double tap zooming and scrolling... really?
Aug 25 21:50:25 <EricBlade1> apparently the scroll rebounding thing, particularly when applied only on one plane at a time
Aug 25 21:51:01 <EricBlade1> which explains why our default mode is to scroll on both planes
Aug 25 21:51:12 <EricBlade1> but does that mean Apple can sue me every time I disable hscroll ?
Aug 25 22:06:31 <ShiftyAxel> I do hope not...
Aug 25 22:06:39 <ShiftyAxel> I wonder if prior art covers that
Aug 25 22:08:14 <ShiftyAxel> though original iPhone was released in '07, original pre was '09
Aug 25 22:38:31 <fxspec06> it's when the patent was awarded, though
Aug 25 22:38:40 <fxspec06> not when it was filed
Aug 25 23:15:04 <ka6sox> fxspec06, do you have a patch for lumberjack
Aug 25 23:42:44 * HaDAk is working on a redesign for the mail client
Aug 25 23:44:48 <HaDAk> enjoy a quick preview.
Aug 25 23:44:49 <HaDAk> http://localhostr.com/files/LNnQqRD/email_client.psd%20%20115%20Original%20RGB8.png
Aug 25 23:52:39 <ShiftyAxel> HaDAk: so what are your plans for this redesign?
Aug 25 23:53:21 <HaDAk> ShiftyAxel: emphasis on slimming down the ui elements, threaded emails, and general usability
Aug 25 23:53:33 <ShiftyAxel> threaded emails would be awesome
Aug 25 23:53:46 <HaDAk> i'm just doing the UI work now.
Aug 25 23:53:50 <HaDAk> somebody else can help implement
Aug 25 23:54:14 <ShiftyAxel> imo it would be a plan to get that someone to rewrite the mail client in enyo2
Aug 25 23:54:17 <ShiftyAxel> the interface at least
Aug 25 23:54:25 <HaDAk> agreed 100%
Aug 25 23:54:29 <ShiftyAxel> it could probably still hook into the mojomail service
Aug 25 23:54:45 <ShiftyAxel> hell, all the stuff needs enyo2-ing… i wonder if HP will do that
Aug 25 23:54:56 <HaDAk> we'll see.
Aug 25 23:55:40 <HaDAk> any thoughts or input on what i've got so far? things you like? things you hate?
Aug 25 23:58:46 <fxspec06> yeah enyo 2..
Aug 25 23:59:01 <fxspec06> but hp could be doing / has done alredy. the enyo dev guys been disappeared
Aug 26 00:02:40 <ShiftyAxel> HaDAk: the quick reply bar is a really cool idea, I like that a lot
Aug 26 00:03:07 <ShiftyAxel> maybe move the 'priority' thing down a bit, since it gets cut off by the top bar
Aug 26 00:03:46 <HaDAk> that's exactly how it is right now
Aug 26 00:05:37 <HaDAk> but yeah, i agree. it should come down slightly. really hard to screencap it when you have to drag it down
Aug 26 00:05:39 <HaDAk> not enough fingers
Aug 26 00:24:15 <HaDAk> fwiw, this is what it looks like without the flag, priority, and attachment junk
Aug 26 00:24:16 <HaDAk> http://localhostr.com/files/nsoCodh/email_client.psd%20%20115%20Original%20RGB8.png
Aug 26 00:24:26 <HaDAk> also, another feature that i think should be implemented: stationary
Aug 26 00:24:31 <HaDAk> people eat that shit up.
Aug 26 00:29:21 <ShiftyAxel> stationary?
Aug 26 00:29:34 <HaDAk> themes for sending messages and shit
Aug 26 00:32:18 <HaDAk> i have more mockups to do, but i just wanted to get some input and make sure i'm on the right track
Aug 26 00:32:27 <HaDAk> sounds like you guys are pretty happy with it so far, though?
Aug 26 00:33:17 <fxspec06> hard to tell without using, the image looks nice though ;)
Aug 26 00:33:23 <ka6sox> I haven't had a chance to look yet...
Aug 26 00:39:02 <HaDAk> well, take a look ka6sox
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