**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 04 02:59:58 2012 Sep 04 07:07:29 is it just me or is the lunaCE beta build faster, smoother and more graphically polished than the original already? Sep 04 07:13:27 :D **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 04 10:09:37 2012 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 04 10:12:19 2012 Sep 04 15:19:12 that can stop now. Sep 04 15:19:58 ...and its not even Monday Sep 04 15:22:28 pull request: https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/pull/49 Sep 04 15:22:39 (Keyboard: Full-width number row for dk/no/se) Sep 04 15:35:15 ShiftyAxel: could you please tag the appropriate commit with v4.6.0? Sep 04 15:36:28 pc-world: 4.6.0 is already in the feeds, that pull will have to go into 4.6.1 Sep 04 15:37:01 ShiftyAxel: I mean the tag for v4.6.0 is missing in the source repo Sep 04 15:37:13 (that question wasn't related to my pull request) Sep 04 15:40:31 looks like I forgot to git push --tags when I made that one... Sep 04 15:40:34 should be fixed now Sep 04 15:41:17 it is, thx Sep 04 17:22:40 hey guys Sep 04 17:22:48 what'd i miss Sep 04 17:28:47 not a lot Sep 04 17:28:58 also HaDAk: ping? Sep 04 17:29:12 ShiftyAxel: pong Sep 04 17:29:19 ~lart HaDAk Sep 04 17:29:19 * WoceBot does a little 'dpkg -P HaDAk' action Sep 04 17:29:21 ~lart HaDAk Sep 04 17:29:24 ~lart HaDAk Sep 04 17:29:40 * HaDAk tackles ShiftyAxel and takes his wallet Sep 04 17:29:44 do NOT give bluen (or anyone for that matter) untested IPKs Sep 04 17:30:04 the mail thing? Sep 04 17:30:07 yes. Sep 04 17:30:16 it was his choice. *i* was testing it. Sep 04 17:30:51 you shouldn't have even been offering it without an obvious recovery path, it took hours to help him fix that Sep 04 17:31:20 i hope you documented it, for future reference Sep 04 17:31:30 i'd have helped, but i had to be in atlanta >.> Sep 04 17:31:36 in fact, i did help, but i had to leave Sep 04 17:32:04 what was the eventual resolution? Sep 04 17:32:18 he had a second TP that he copied the email app from Sep 04 17:32:45 and documented what exactly? the fact that OWO apps won't run on a significantly different operating system? Sep 04 17:34:23 there's a reason that we distribute app modifications in .patch format, because preware automatically creates a backup in case shit goes wrong Sep 04 17:36:30 i a) don't have access to put shit in preware, and b) don't have instructions for creating a .patch. i looked, but couldn't find it documented anywhere. Sep 04 17:36:47 so, i created an ipk, installed it on my TP, and went to town. Sep 04 17:38:17 that would have been totally fine had you not decided to distribute that IPK Sep 04 17:39:04 for future reference, you can make a patch using the 'diff' commandline utility Sep 04 17:39:24 pipe it's output into a file (ex. 'diff fileA fileB > foo.patch') Sep 04 17:39:43 then apply using the 'patch' utility (ex. patch -p1 < foo.patch) Sep 04 17:39:48 or preware Sep 04 17:40:48 hey, i didn't mean to cause shit here. yeesh. Sep 04 17:40:54 newbie mistake. sorry. Sep 04 17:41:42 it's cool, i'm mainly annoyed becuase I had to clear it up Sep 04 17:42:44 i was trying to clear it up with him, but simply ran out of time. Sep 04 17:42:51 i just got home last night. been in ATL Sep 04 17:44:27 I wondered where you'd got to, good trip? Sep 04 17:44:35 went to dragon*con Sep 04 17:44:43 also, didn't pay the cable bill. got shut off. Sep 04 17:45:11 I remember you mentioned something about that, I assumed that's why you'd disappeared :P Sep 04 17:45:20 yeah Sep 04 17:53:05 went to dragon con didn't pay the cable bill.. :-S Sep 04 18:02:36 uh.. guys... Sep 04 18:02:46 read the implications in this .. https://jira.openwebosproject.org/browse/OW-19 Sep 04 18:04:15 EricBlade: wow, interesting Sep 04 18:04:44 lol, I would if that link would open on my Pre3 :( Sep 04 18:05:09 my opinion on that HaDAk thing: everyone who installs something from the internet should do it on their own risk. Sep 04 18:05:09 and whenever you distribute software, write an explicit disclaimer that everyone uses it on their own risk Sep 04 18:05:45 i told him that i was in the process of developing it at that moment, and i would create an ipk and send it over Sep 04 18:05:54 but yes, there is an implicit disclaimer Sep 04 18:07:12 EricBlade: i like that notification synergy thing. Sep 04 18:08:09 the bleeding edge is called that for a reason :) Sep 04 18:08:27 yeah. there's no foul play here. it's part of being in the developer channel, wanting bleeding edge. Sep 04 18:08:34 nobody should be upset Sep 04 18:08:40 things have been learned here. Sep 04 18:09:11 HaDAk: then I don't think you made anything wrong... Sep 04 18:09:53 there's some definite confusion in that posting, but i initially read it in such a way that it sounded like someone was running it on their touchpads and pres .. but it can definitely also be read as "avoid getting in the same situation as we have with the touchpad and pre in the future" .. Sep 04 18:10:46 it does imply that there is some sort of "connected webos devices" concept that might be expanded upon farther than what we already know though Sep 04 18:12:15 grmbl... why do I have to login to see bugs on the OW bugtracker? Sep 04 18:13:02 Hey be nice to HaDak Sep 04 18:13:59 i'm not sure who that Bhatnagar person is though. S/he might just be reporting things that exist in current webos Sep 04 18:14:27 brb upgrading vbox .. so network will be reset a few times Sep 04 18:14:42 EricBlade: err... in current webOS? Sep 04 18:14:58 pc-world: posting ideas based on current things Sep 04 18:15:18 then who set the asignee to "Raji Krishnamurthy"? Sep 04 18:15:26 Just a misunderstanding with HaDak. Since it was an ipk and the other ipks had recovery, I assumed his ipk had recovery also. I will ask in the future if there is a recovery path before installing. I did mention early on the suggestion to copy from my other touchpad but the lure of git and owo is too strong for some people :D Sep 04 18:15:35 I don't see in the history of the bug that someone changed the asignee Sep 04 18:15:48 pc-world: might be default, she appears to be a QA person Sep 04 18:15:55 ahh Sep 04 18:21:40 clear Sep 04 18:21:55 If it had been my only touchpad I would have been careful. I have not even installed lunaCE on my main touchpad as I have ubuntu on it and I need it to be in the best shape when I travel (LunaCE looks pretty good also). I also have a kindle and an iPad so I am not desperate in any case. Sep 04 18:22:41 I mean LunaCE looks great, I'm just holding off on my main touchpad for a little bit longer. Sep 04 18:22:46 https://jira.openwebosproject.org/secure/attachment/10004/WIMP+non-WIMP.png Sep 04 18:23:13 oops, sorry Sep 04 18:28:45 ok the vbox has been upgraded. \o/ Sep 04 18:40:38 EricBlade: new version? Sep 04 18:41:12 i just updated to 4.1.2. Sep 04 18:41:14 it seems quite faster Sep 04 18:41:40 hmm, that is tempting... Sep 04 18:41:49 I've held off in case it broke vagrant Sep 04 18:42:11 also that OWO bug entry seems interesting, and also the way forward Sep 04 18:48:46 ok, well, i got synergv 1 to .. crash open luna Sep 04 18:49:10 a service compatibility perhaps? Sep 04 18:49:18 s/compatibility/incompatibility/ Sep 04 18:49:19 ShiftyAxel meant: a service incompatibility perhaps? Sep 04 18:50:49 no there's definitely something in luna that blew up hardcore Sep 04 18:51:07 s/// Sep 04 18:51:14 void WindowedWebApp::slotResizeContent(const QSize&) QSize(1024, 740) Sep 04 18:51:14 14:47:57.925*C*(5905) /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.32.3/./gobject/gtype.c:2722: You forgot to call g_type_init() Sep 04 18:51:26 just curious how intelligent the bot was :P Sep 04 18:51:56 how so very typical of software who's names begin with "g" to presume it knows exactly what you did wrong, and crash without doing it for you. Sep 04 18:52:42 lol Sep 04 18:52:59 GodGinrai: well you just told it to replace nothing with nothing, so it didn't have a lot to think about :P Sep 04 18:53:21 slotResizeContent eh? Sep 04 18:53:24 interesting Sep 04 18:53:34 must be those old-fangled 2.x notifications Sep 04 18:53:51 folks Sep 04 18:54:19 bhuey Sep 04 18:54:56 ShiftyAxel: That intelligence still has to be coded. A simple code to do replacement would leave the bot parroting the last thing you said if you say s/// Sep 04 19:00:00 possibly bad: it reports it's version number string is "Unknown", and the individual version components report -1.-1.-1 Sep 04 19:00:31 hmm Sep 04 19:00:36 that does sound bad Sep 04 19:11:38 anyone know what HAVE_LUNA_PREF refers to specifically? Sep 04 19:18:46 or what package might contain Sep 04 19:22:31 EricBlade: grep? Sep 04 19:22:36 sry, find ^^ Sep 04 19:23:18 yeah, i just did.. i only have it in woce-build Sep 04 19:34:11 annoyed by all these unrealistic feature requests in the OW bug tracker... Sep 04 19:35:07 ShiftyAxel: slotResizeContent is not the culprit, it's just a debug print Sep 04 19:35:25 pc-world: unrealistic? Sep 04 19:35:28 ah Sep 04 19:36:15 like people wanting windows in webOS... Sep 04 19:36:40 or that "Ubiquitous Notifications across systems" Sep 04 19:41:14 the notifications shouldn't be too hard, use bluetooth and broadcast the current state of the dashboard Sep 04 19:41:42 when the sending device receives a ping back from the receiving device saying all's correct, stop broadcasting until the next notification change Sep 04 19:42:54 dkirker wants to modify the MAP system to send all messages not just SMS. not a terrible idea. Sep 04 19:43:25 having everything in sync between devices would be great Sep 04 19:48:21 and personally I don't think the windowing system is out of the realms of possibility, I put that on the ideas trackers many moons ago Sep 04 19:56:36 ... and boom fails the Jira Sep 04 20:10:48 EricBlade: ShiftyAxel: So... I was actually thinking up a system to use with smart watches, and apps could send JSON over Bluetooth (probably OBEX, maybe SPP). This could be expanded for any app to any system. :) Sep 04 20:11:13 One thought was to have something that would yank out parts of a webOS Dashboard notification and send that, too. Sep 04 20:12:13 EricBlade: Also, looks like Boxcar shit on itself again... :/ Their domain doesn't respond.... Sep 04 20:14:16 dkirker: boo. Sep 04 20:16:35 dkirker: that's a neat idea, you could probably communicate a basic dash notification (banner message perhaps) with JSON Sep 04 20:16:50 though it gets more complex when web frameworks and other bits gets involved Sep 04 20:17:25 Well, yeah Sep 04 20:18:37 I think there is also a WebView on the WIMM One, so theoretically, the WIMM client app could have Enyo loaded, and the HTML for notifications (and even base64 encoded images) could be pushed over BT to the watch, which renders them. :) Sep 04 20:25:38 if it was a webOS device, there could be some sort of check for whether the app is installed on both devices Sep 04 20:25:53 that way it can get the resources from it's own fs to save bandwidth Sep 04 20:27:38 and since OWO has such a simple app install mechanism, it could potentially package it into a zip/ipk and send that as base64, though it might be a bit big Sep 04 20:28:42 jira is back Sep 04 20:45:31 whoops, thought I was flicking through my menu Sep 04 20:50:38 ShiftyAxel: Possibly. I'm still thinking of how to do it. One could even compress the resources. Thankfully, with dashboard notifications, there is usually one image and text. Sometimes a bit more. Things like music controls might be odd (at least initially). Sep 04 20:52:27 in general yeah, for some reason nobody uses more advanced widgets... Sep 04 20:59:41 pc-world: pull request accepted! Sep 04 21:01:44 good afternoon, gents Sep 04 21:03:42 afternoon garrett92c Sep 04 21:04:13 I may need some help later. Having an issue with a new patch and Tweaks :/ Sep 04 21:04:16 question for the room: what would people think about being able to use two-finger pinch/spread gestures to spread out card stacks? Sep 04 21:04:36 sure, I can probably give you a hand with that Sep 04 21:04:43 depending on what it be Sep 04 21:06:51 It's probably some small thing i'm overlooking, but I can't get Tweaks to work with a new patch. When I change my entry in Tweaks, I get "setPreference(): setPref did NOT find handler for myTweaksSetting" Sep 04 21:07:50 do you have it in a github repo? Sep 04 21:08:00 I'd like to take a look Sep 04 21:08:20 alternately you could pastebin the json and the bits of code you added for your prefs entry Sep 04 21:08:37 Yes, it's all there except the Tweaks file itself (I can add real quick) Sep 04 21:10:19 Ah, i forgot that i deleted that branch. You can still see the commit tho. I'll pastebin the Tweaks file Sep 04 21:11:50 Tweaks json: http://pastebin.com/VCLHdLT9 Sep 04 21:12:19 looks valid to me Sep 04 21:12:21 Code that goes with it: https://github.com/Choorp/LunaSysMgr/commit/c5151051982e57b02c2e07658cb90f6a6cad0755 Sep 04 21:13:32 Pardon the messy commit, my Github noobness got in the way. lol Sep 04 21:14:17 urk, lots of ~Something.foo files Sep 04 21:14:42 I can't see you calling Preferences::instance()->sysUiBatteryDisplay anywhere? Sep 04 21:14:59 s/sysUiBatteryDisplay/sysUiBatteryDisplay()/ Sep 04 21:14:59 ShiftyAxel meant: I can't see you calling Preferences::instance()->sysUiBatteryDisplay() anywhere? Sep 04 21:15:37 Yea, actually that looks a lot worse than I remember. ugh.. Sep 04 21:16:00 I did call that, but wasn't working. Let me pastebin that part real quick Sep 04 21:16:12 good plan Sep 04 21:16:28 jfyi you'll want to tidy up your commits a bit before pull requesting Sep 04 21:16:37 but that can be advised upon also Sep 04 21:17:25 Yes, I completely agree with that. I'm not sure how all those other files got in there.. :( Sep 04 21:17:58 how are you working with git? some kind of GUI? Sep 04 21:18:31 No, in terminal. I'm just very new at it and obviously don't really know what I'm doing... lol Sep 04 21:19:51 see, I'm loath to recommend a GUI if you've started in a terminal :P Sep 04 21:20:05 it's definately the best way if you can learn it, but a bit hard to grasp at first Sep 04 21:20:25 blah, this is all sorts of messed up. I'll come back when i get things reorganized... Sorry Sep 04 21:20:43 no worries :) Sep 04 21:20:52 anyone around who wants to test LunaCE 4.7.0? Sep 04 21:20:56 Yea, i didn't want to bother with using a GUI for it. I've actually found that I prefer using the terminal for most things Sep 04 21:25:23 ShiftyAxel: I can test in about 15 minutes Sep 04 21:25:47 bluen: cool, ty Sep 04 21:26:42 ShiftyAxel: just drop in pogo Sep 04 21:27:19 bluen: slightly different setup for testing now so we can automatically update certain things Sep 04 21:28:45 you'll need to 'git clone git://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr-binaries.git' and run the .sh script in there (it works as a .bat in windows too) Sep 04 21:46:48 and make sure your device is plugged in Sep 04 21:51:33 ok so git clone in terminal on the mac and then running the .sh script updates on the touchpad which is plugged into the mac, do i have this right? Sep 04 21:53:21 this is correct Sep 04 21:56:11 so what is the exact command to run the install script in terminal Sep 04 21:56:36 looks great by the way. after spending hours building isis, this is a breeze Sep 04 21:57:22 cd LunaSysMgr-binaries Sep 04 21:57:25 ./install.sh Sep 04 22:03:19 * ShiftyAxel looks for a mushroom cloud over in bluen's direction Sep 04 22:05:04 is isis actually useful? that's the browser right? Sep 04 22:05:09 or the system webkit, maybe? Sep 04 22:06:32 isis is the browser for OWO Sep 04 22:06:39 which includes the webapp rendering etc Sep 04 22:07:00 and the system webkit too Sep 04 22:07:46 summatusmentis: I don't suppose you'd be up for testing the latest LunaCE would you? Sep 04 22:08:29 what does testing mean? Sep 04 22:09:13 put it on your TP, see if a couple of features work correctly for you, report back any issues you may find Sep 04 22:11:34 probably not tonight, but maybe later this week? Sep 04 22:13:12 I'm afraid the turnaround is a bit fast for that :P Sep 04 22:13:21 but there may be further versions to test later Sep 04 22:18:33 sorry Sep 04 22:18:38 PhD student and all that Sep 04 22:20:09 bluen: any progress? Sep 04 22:20:15 summatusmentis: no worries :P Sep 04 22:25:51 ShiftyAxel: only mushroom cloud is work-related which I just attended to. Regarding the install script, mac terminal says permission denied Sep 04 22:28:06 bluen: did you chmod +x the script? Sep 04 22:28:48 bluen: if that doesn't help ("chmod +x ./install.sh"), then run "sh install.sh" Sep 04 22:30:10 pc-world and shifty axel: sh install.sh worked, chmod did not, touchpad rebooting now Sep 04 22:30:40 (then probably a line like #!/bin/bash or #!/bin/sh was missing) Sep 04 22:31:08 (at least a possibility) Sep 04 22:31:14 ShiftyAxel: git repos can have files with +x in them :) Sep 04 22:31:30 Do I have push access to that repo? :P Sep 04 22:32:11 shiftyaxel and pcworld: rebooted , reports CE 4.7.0 Sep 04 22:32:16 Nope, i don't Sep 04 22:32:30 ShiftyAxel: I'm reboten in to 4.7, what do you want tested? Sep 04 22:32:41 reboten anna Sep 04 22:33:05 ShiftyAxel: the old two finger spread trick, huh? Sep 04 22:33:08 bluen: turn on spread gestures in tweaks and try pinch/spreading on a stack Sep 04 22:33:09 ya Sep 04 22:33:33 also check the danish, norwegian and swedish keyboards to make sure the number row is full-width Sep 04 22:34:24 ShiftyAxel: Opened tweaks, looked at ? notes, then minimized tweaks card, touchpad froze and launcher was gone (i did have the patch in launcher for 8 apps). Sep 04 22:34:41 :s Sep 04 22:34:46 reboot luna and try again? Sep 04 22:35:13 Pinch/spread works for me, but I only have qwerty and dvorak keyboards Sep 04 22:35:21 ShiftyAxel: Ok. fyi, i had not turned on spread feature yet Sep 04 22:35:31 rrix: you have to change it in regional settings Sep 04 22:35:35 Oh derp Sep 04 22:36:49 Swedish has full width number area Sep 04 22:37:05 as does danish Sep 04 22:37:12 (ideally, *all* keyboards should now have a full width number area) Sep 04 22:37:19 that's the idea of the test Sep 04 22:37:28 ShiftyAxel: Scandanavia is pleased. They all do Sep 04 22:37:40 \o/ Sep 04 22:37:42 that's 2/3 Sep 04 22:37:49 Anything else while I'm in here? Sep 04 22:37:54 as soon as bluen reports that spread gestures is working we're good Sep 04 22:37:59 dance the macarena? Sep 04 22:38:08 * rrix hands out, palms up Sep 04 22:39:13 excellent, thank you. I am now 100% satisfied :P Sep 04 22:40:08 eyyyy macarena! (hiiiy!) Sep 04 22:40:46 I want to play minecraft while this builds, but my MC server keeps choking if I connect to our skygrid world :( Sep 04 22:40:57 Minecraft! Sep 04 22:41:17 I would nethack, but it's on the same machine, and I don't have my SSH key on it any more Sep 04 22:41:18 famously known for it's awful server software :D Sep 04 22:41:42 hehe Sep 04 22:41:56 ShiftyAxel: MC works great on an AWS small instance as long as you're not doing crazy things like we are Sep 04 22:42:09 I had to convert a two-cpu rackmount into a MC server just to get it to run smoothly... Sep 04 22:42:17 haha Sep 04 22:43:36 I really should put that thing to better use Sep 04 22:43:47 problem is, there are no fan control modules for linux... Sep 04 22:43:58 at least not that i can find that work with modern kernels Sep 04 22:44:06 so it's at 100% speed. all. the. time. Sep 04 22:44:18 :) Sep 04 22:44:50 I don't want to install windows server onto it though... Sep 04 22:53:37 ShiftyAxel: does tabbed stack still not minimize when you swipe up? Sep 04 22:53:57 bluen: no, I'll note that as something to do Sep 04 22:54:08 what do you think of the spread gestures? do we have 3/3 yet? Sep 04 22:54:30 in fact, bluen, could you open an issue on the tracker? Sep 04 22:55:59 ShiftyAxel: spread gestures work. what do i press on keyboard to test other keyboards? Sep 04 22:56:13 bluen: you open regional settings and change your keyboard language Sep 04 22:56:21 …what have you been testing all this time? Sep 04 22:57:04 ShiftyAxel: I am working on a project now and emails were coming in from someone in Korea that needed to be attended to. What time is it in Korea anyway? Sep 04 22:57:19 *shrug* ask google Sep 04 22:58:06 ShiftyAxel: OK, a whole bunch of keyboards are there. Which ones need testing? Sep 04 22:58:27 swedish, norwegian, denmark Sep 04 22:59:38 ShiftyAxel: I see auto correction and then keyboard layout underneath, is that what is changed? Sep 04 22:59:46 there are 3 of them Sep 04 23:00:19 tap on that Sep 04 23:00:28 a;; 3 Sep 04 23:00:32 all 3? Sep 04 23:00:34 then tap on keyboard layout Sep 04 23:00:42 one of them will do, whatever your current one is Sep 04 23:00:53 it'll be under 'keyboard layout' Sep 04 23:01:36 So auto correction english but keyboard layout norwegian? Doesn't seem to change anything Sep 04 23:02:14 oh wait, it changed Sep 04 23:02:42 i think i had to make 2 and 3 into none and then the first one changed Sep 04 23:02:52 right... Sep 04 23:03:09 are the numbers rows for the keyboards I asked you to test full-width? Sep 04 23:05:03 yep Sep 04 23:05:12 so we have success? Sep 04 23:05:48 nice! yes. I like the 2 finger spread trick, stacks are not useful when i am spending all my time trying to manipulate them Sep 04 23:05:56 great idea Sep 04 23:06:13 ty Sep 04 23:07:21 You are doing a great job! All of you Sep 04 23:07:37 way to go Sep 04 23:07:45 * ShiftyAxel rings the test success gong- Testing began 11:30, ended 10:05. Total duration 35 minutes. ~log Sep 04 23:10:29 ShiftyAxel: anything I can do with the isis build that i have on ubuntu? like install on luna in ubuntu at least? Or are we waiting for more pieces from HP to accomplish this? Sep 04 23:11:12 bluen: build-desktop will build OWO on a 32-bit Ubuntu 12.04 desktop install Sep 04 23:11:37 including services, core apps, LSM Sep 04 23:11:43 shiftyaxel: I built the desktop and I built isis separately. wanting to know if I could put them together Sep 04 23:11:58 build-desktop builds an isis Sep 04 23:12:04 it's what renders all of the apps Sep 04 23:12:18 and eventually a browser when HP adds it to build-desktop Sep 04 23:12:40 also fyi the enyo browser app in the isis git doesn't work, i've tried it Sep 04 23:12:44 shiftyaxel: ok. I meant isis as a browser which i built separately in ubuntu and it works Sep 04 23:13:02 I'm aware of the other browser. they are one and the same Sep 04 23:13:24 it's just that the version you built separately has a frontend for ubuntu Sep 04 23:14:44 ShiftyAxel: Aah, so the browser i built separately fits with ubuntu only and there is an additional one for luna which is not working currently, do i understand you correctly? Sep 04 23:15:00 they both run off of the same 'isis' codebase Sep 04 23:15:29 it's just that the ubuntu one has an ubuntu frontend and the OWO one renders the apps and browser for OWO Sep 04 23:15:36 there just isn't an app for it yet Sep 04 23:15:45 s/app/browser app/ Sep 04 23:15:45 ShiftyAxel meant: there just isn't an browser app for it yet Sep 04 23:17:44 ShiftyAxel: I'm starting to understand thanks. It would help to write up your explanation somewhere as I am sure others are asking this. Separately, what is the value of an ISIS browser with ubuntu frontend when we have firefox etc? I guess if it is ever optimized perhaps there could be cloud sharing between ubuntu and webos devices the same way that IOS does this in safari--meaning I synced my safari bookmarks Sep 04 23:18:13 I wonder if this is what HP is after. So the enterprise guys can sync between their webos tablet that runs enterprise apps and their ubuntu machines. Sep 04 23:18:28 currently the target platforms for OWO are x86 and qemu Sep 04 23:19:18 ShiftyAxel: I understand. I am thinking a little further out towards the mysterious gr.am that is focused on enterprise, webos and cloud Sep 04 23:19:56 and 'partnering' Sep 04 23:20:04 that's the part that intrigues me Sep 04 23:20:15 Are we speculating on things we don't yet have info on? I want in! Sep 04 23:20:38 rrix, i think we had better stop now Sep 04 23:21:07 k Sep 04 23:21:32 or take it to #webos-offtopic Sep 04 23:21:37 and speculate away Sep 04 23:39:21 ShiftyAxel: It would take too long for me to make sense of the pivotal tracker even to figure out if someone else requested swipe up of tabbed stack. Hope others have an easier time with it. Need to get back to work Sep 04 23:41:04 bluen: wrong place for submission Sep 04 23:41:18 the pivotal tracker Ideas Hub is for IDEAS Sep 04 23:41:30 the chiliproject Bug Tracker is for BUGS and ISSUES Sep 04 23:41:30 shiftyaxel: ok i thought swipe up was a feature. Sep 04 23:45:02 ShiftyAxel: thank you, chiliproject looks a lot cleaner although the url at the top of my irc client is not correct. I will add my issue tomorrow as I need to get back to work today Sep 04 23:53:45 okay, please remember to. if it's not on the issue tracker it didn't happen. Sep 04 23:56:03 * WoceBot farts in bluen's general direction, courtesy of larrysteeze|away Sep 05 00:04:45 hiya lagoldste Sep 05 00:05:04 lol Sep 05 00:05:18 looks like WoceBot is misbehaving Sep 05 00:06:02 bad wocebot..bad! Sep 05 00:07:34 hiya ka6sox-away Sep 05 00:07:55 never fails. volunteer for something and reality promptly eats all of my free time Sep 05 00:08:43 lagoldste, happens to me too! Sep 05 00:09:07 funny how that goes. Sep 05 00:10:12 I think that's a universal truth Sep 05 00:10:35 good morning lagoldste Sep 05 00:10:47 and yes, that is the truth Sep 05 00:11:13 lagoldste: I have good news for you Sep 05 00:11:24 I did something to make testing a TON easier for new users Sep 05 00:19:10 coolness. do tell Sep 05 00:21:05 lagoldste: familiar with github? Sep 05 00:21:13 I'll take it to PM actually Sep 05 00:21:52 he is sure chatty for someone who is away :P Sep 05 00:22:11 I could say the same about you :P Sep 05 00:22:28 and I leave my nick as away if I can't dedicate time, as I'm in and out Sep 05 00:24:34 ka6sox: pot, this is kettle. :P Sep 05 00:24:41 oh, you changed Sep 05 00:24:45 darnit! Sep 05 00:25:48 heh Sep 05 00:26:37 I'm far far away! :P Sep 05 00:26:54 * LarrySteeze|Away walks away in shame Sep 05 00:27:01 he he Sep 05 00:29:37 * WoceBot pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps rrix, courtesy of larrysteeze|away Sep 05 00:29:45 http://i.minus.com/iQP2oSgKeX3uU.gif Sep 05 00:29:52 LarrySteeze|Away: SO BRAVE Sep 05 00:30:35 I don't appreciate seizures Sep 05 00:30:56 NSFE Sep 05 00:31:22 not safe for everything? Sep 05 00:32:24 also TP just did the no battery dance Sep 05 00:32:27 :( Sep 05 00:35:22 epileptics* Sep 05 00:44:00 ~make rrix Sep 05 00:44:00 * WoceBot compiles rrix and links him against the wrong libraries Sep 05 00:45:07 D: Sep 05 00:45:12 ld: command not found Sep 05 00:56:30 hmm Sep 05 00:56:35 ~null rrix Sep 05 00:56:35 * WoceBot pipes rrix into /dev/null Sep 05 00:56:40 that should fix it Sep 05 00:56:51 Hey! Sep 05 00:56:58 ~gzip ShiftyAxel Sep 05 00:56:59 * WoceBot compresses ShiftyAxel into a .tar.gz and uploads him to Github Sep 05 00:57:12 whee, I'm in the cloud Sep 05 00:57:15 Damn straight, binary blobs in your git repos! Good luck every sanely cloning /that/ again! Sep 05 01:01:34 looks like that opcode was invalid Sep 05 01:01:49 * ShiftyAxel dons the shades of justice Sep 05 01:03:45 YEAAAAAAAHHHHH Sep 05 01:04:33 :D Sep 05 01:04:43 you are also my favourite, rrix Sep 05 01:04:47 :) Sep 05 01:11:55 morning mscoolner Sep 05 01:46:13 time to call it a night I think Sep 05 01:46:36 nn all! Sep 05 01:47:20 night ShiftyAxel Sep 05 01:55:20 hometime Sep 05 01:55:24 * lagoldste poofs Sep 05 02:32:02 heyall Sep 05 02:32:20 * HaDAk grumbles Sep 05 02:32:55 sup hadak Sep 05 02:33:26 fighting with pfsense. i tried to use my neighbor's wifi as my WAN, and I messed up a bunch of settings that are causing me grief Sep 05 02:34:24 oops Sep 05 02:34:37 I'm playing poker In Ann arbor Sep 05 02:34:51 i'd be down there, if my kid wasn't sleeping :P Sep 05 02:35:00 did i tell you i nailed the job at arbor? Sep 05 02:35:00 * pc-world just read through hundreds of lines of off-topic chat in #webos-ports Sep 05 02:35:12 you didn't, but awesome! Sep 05 02:35:53 I hope to hear back about the one I was after, soon. Sep 05 02:36:17 fingers crossed Sep 05 02:36:21 i should be getting my offer letter tomorrow Sep 05 02:37:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS3IS1WWpPU&feature=player_detailpage Sep 05 02:37:20 so, that happened. Sep 05 02:45:25 pc-world, which bugs do I give you to fix? Sep 05 02:45:44 lol Sep 05 02:46:03 ...which bugs would you have for me to fix? :P Sep 05 02:49:06 * ka6sox assigns all to pc-world. :D Sep 05 02:49:25 pc-world, realistically, which ones can you fix? Sep 05 02:50:07 EricBlade, EricBlade-TP_ which ones can you fix? Sep 05 02:50:33 hmm? Sep 05 02:51:34 for the next couple of days, possibly Sep 05 02:51:36 none Sep 05 02:54:16 which bugs are we talking aboot **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 05 02:59:59 2012