**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 05 02:59:59 2012 Sep 05 03:15:20 hello? Sep 05 03:16:51 sssh. Sep 05 03:17:22 ka6sox: am I mscoolnerd again? Sep 05 03:17:41 negative Sep 05 03:18:02 okay thanks scoutcamper Sep 05 03:19:27 *reading backlog* so what got all assigned to pc-world? Sep 05 03:20:16 ah... bugs Sep 05 03:29:27 pc-world: fix ALL the bugs Sep 05 03:31:44 EricBlade-TP_: I fix #109, you the rest, kthxbye Sep 05 03:31:44 /me sleeps Sep 05 03:34:06 I hope he realizes I wasn't serious Sep 05 03:35:22 pc-world: I hope you realize I wasn't being serious Sep 05 03:35:34 EricBlade-TP_: lol I wasn't serious either :P Sep 05 03:36:01 ...and I can still read the logs even when I'm ofline :D# Sep 05 03:36:30 *offline Sep 05 03:37:16 Spies! everywhere there are spies! Sep 05 03:41:44 EricBlade-TP_: any small bugs I could help with? Sep 05 03:43:22 invalidopcode: have a look at the bug tracker? I haven't looked much other than the ones I filed, and I'm not familiar with those areas or I'd have fixed them :-) Sep 05 03:44:34 EricBlade-TP_: so in other words, if its easy, its already done? :P Sep 05 03:45:10 no I just haven't looked Sep 05 03:45:19 ahh okay Sep 05 03:45:42 I imagine my keyboard toggle is probably pretty easy, but I don't know the rationale behind the changes that were made Sep 05 03:47:46 if infinite loop switching isn't in the slide/swipe bezel gestures, that's probably a low hanging fruit to ensure that all three gestures are using the same code to do it Sep 05 03:48:05 okay Sep 05 03:48:09 I don't knowif anyone ever got to fixing that in all 3 Sep 05 03:51:44 does anyone else have problems running a multi-cpu vagrant VM? Sep 05 03:51:48 no idea how easy or hard the stack/tab problem might be Sep 05 03:54:17 wait... nvm Sep 05 03:55:36 95 is probably pretty easy if you study up on dashboard container Sep 05 03:56:19 okay! Sep 05 03:57:05 I'm waiting for my build to finish, then I can start poking around and (hopefully) fixing things Sep 05 04:00:55 hey sir dave Sep 05 04:08:58 egg-stir-min-age Sep 05 04:08:59 ate* Sep 05 04:10:44 EricBlade-TP_: about how long does LunaCE take to build for you? Sep 05 04:15:16 invalidopcode: I haven't done a full rebuild in a long time.. Sep 05 04:15:33 so usually on the order of seconds Sep 05 04:15:40 haha ah okay Sep 05 04:17:10 it doesn't have to build *all* of qt right? Sep 05 04:17:31 i believe it does. yes. Sep 05 04:18:00 why? Sep 05 04:18:50 because if you don't, it gets all explodey-wodey Sep 05 04:18:56 someone told me it was just to get qmake Sep 05 04:19:10 ah Sep 05 04:19:24 its an ubuntu image.... can't you just install qmake? Sep 05 04:20:44 I don't think its a stock qmake Sep 05 04:21:54 haha they patched qmake? really? Sep 05 04:22:52 I'm not real sure. you may well know more about qt than I do Sep 05 04:23:52 I really qt, its a create framework for Linux GUI development and for any cross-platform development imo Sep 05 04:27:00 verbs sir Sep 05 04:27:16 hey EricBlade-TP_ this is slightly off-topic, but have you played with the bluetooth api in webos? Sep 05 04:27:27 * invalidopcode ducks to avoid ka6sox Sep 05 04:27:45 * ka6sox brings out the BIG guns.... Sep 05 04:28:01 * invalidopcode runs... really fast Sep 05 04:28:03 but listens intently as we need to learn this.... Sep 05 04:28:25 invalidopcode, you are still within range of a Pershing... Sep 05 04:28:41 * invalidopcode is toast Sep 05 04:29:06 okay back to the question about webos and BT API Sep 05 04:29:46 I was thinking about trying to develop a pseudo-touch to share Sep 05 04:30:22 I'd thrown the idea around before, but I'm curious if you can get the strength of a connections Sep 05 04:30:28 hey ka6sox Sep 05 04:30:45 hiya bhuey_ Sep 05 04:31:25 hey how's it going ? Sep 05 04:31:29 I need to chat with Stskeeps about his Android Kernel wrapper sometime... Sep 05 04:32:12 invalidopcode: I wanted to build an app for webOS phones and tablets that would connect via Bluetooth and start a siren when the connection was lost Sep 05 04:32:17 bhuey_, 1.9 seconds in...trying to hang on for 8 Sep 05 04:32:30 Android Kernel wrapper? Sep 05 04:32:36 but haven't got to it Sep 05 04:33:05 invalidopcode, a way for Linux libraries to talk to an Android Kernel... Sep 05 04:33:11 EricBlade-TP_: haha okay... I'm thinking what I'm trying to do might be lower level then what the bluetooth service provides Sep 05 04:33:19 Be good everyone... RagingMind is here :D Sep 05 04:33:36 ka6sox: that sounds cool Sep 05 04:35:52 invalidopcode, if we can abstract out the Androidness of the kernels we get for devices then porting should get easier. Sep 05 04:36:11 right bhuey_ ? Sep 05 04:36:56 the Androidness? haha that makes sense though. Aren't the 3.3 kernels supposed to be closer aligned to the Android kernels though? Sep 05 04:37:32 well 3.4+ Sep 05 04:38:33 3.4? geez... I wish they didn't move so quickly with the version numbers Sep 05 04:39:54 yeah who do they think they are.. ShiftyAxel? Sep 05 04:44:06 I find it interesting that there are a wide range of kernels out there being used by things such as jelly bean Sep 05 04:44:08 have their been any reported cases of people bricking their touchpads by installing LunaCE? Sep 05 04:45:08 a couple of cases of people having to doctor because something got screwed in accounts but I dont thijk weve ever figured out what.. and only two reports of it that I know of Sep 05 04:45:44 no, I'm talking like won't even turn on kindof brick Sep 05 04:45:54 but itd be about impossible to do any long lasting damage. if youre in dev mode you can just copy the old luna back in Sep 05 04:46:19 anyone know what this means "Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0" Sep 05 04:46:26 that comes up when I plug my touchpad in Sep 05 04:46:33 in dmeg Sep 05 04:46:42 *dmesg Sep 05 04:46:52 on your touchpad or your pc Sep 05 04:47:06 pc Sep 05 04:47:13 the touchpad is black Sep 05 04:47:41 it won't turn on Sep 05 04:47:44 thats probably how the usb chip identifies itself Sep 05 04:48:41 power + home for 30sec? Sep 05 04:49:35 nothing Sep 05 04:49:53 it recognizes that it disconnected and reconnected Sep 05 04:50:03 this is what happened last time my touchpad was bricked.... Sep 05 04:50:14 ok so its not completely farked Sep 05 04:50:40 I ended up sending it back to HP that time.... Sep 05 04:51:12 send it to me :-) Sep 05 04:51:20 you want a brick? Sep 05 04:51:56 I guess its not under warranty anymore... so I guess I could crack it open and look around inside Sep 05 04:52:13 I have this funny feeling that disconnecting the battery will fix it Sep 05 04:52:34 by the time it gets here the battery will prob have drained and a recharge will get it working andthen I'll have a spare :-) Sep 05 04:53:31 haha Sep 05 04:53:41 I guess I'll just let its battery die on its own Sep 05 04:56:16 the two things I've seen that usually fix are either plugging it in for many hours or letting itdrain for a lot more hours and recharging Sep 05 04:57:12 I guess I don't have these problems because I've never turned off my touchpads other than to reboot them Sep 05 04:58:27 i didn't turn mine off Sep 05 04:59:11 i was just following the instructions for installing the lunace binaries from the wiki Sep 05 05:00:06 well i guess that ends my touchpad development for the night Sep 05 05:02:06 I'm the police now? Sep 05 05:02:13 unless anyone is interested in working on a pre3 port :) Sep 05 05:02:34 everyone hide its RagingMind Sep 05 05:02:46 shit shit shit Sep 05 05:02:50 I mean morning Sep 05 05:02:58 I have a Pre3, but ~ 0 ability to port stuffs Sep 05 05:04:06 invalidopcode: there's a document on bringing ce up on pre3 Sep 05 05:04:17 I have a Pre3 and a small ability to port stuff (though that is debatable) Sep 05 05:04:25 EricBlade-TP_: ooo where? Sep 05 05:04:32 its possible that we might have the components now to get it actually working Sep 05 05:05:12 side note: Touchpad disassembly instructions, interesting.... http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/environment/productdata/Countries/_MultiCountry/disassembly_handhe_2011617223529.pdf Sep 05 05:05:24 has someone successfully built isis now? Sep 05 05:06:06 or the webkit core... I forget what parts do things Sep 05 05:06:25 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LunaSysMgr_CE_for_Pre3 Sep 05 05:06:40 not for device Sep 05 05:06:57 Isis builds fine for ubuntu though Sep 05 05:07:52 I thought dkirker had something getting close to working Sep 05 05:08:32 thanks EricBlade-TP_ Sep 05 05:10:39 rrix, sssh...you will wake him up... Sep 05 05:10:50 ARRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!! Sep 05 05:10:52 * rrix shakes dkirker violently Sep 05 05:11:02 * dkirker eats off rrix's head Sep 05 05:11:05 >:-) Sep 05 05:11:43 oh my Sep 05 05:13:05 omg zombie!!!!! Sep 05 05:14:44 KRAKEN!!!! Sep 05 05:15:05 something about Chainsaws and Zombies... Sep 05 05:18:34 :-( Sep 05 05:20:31 * ka6sox gets back on topic.... Sep 05 05:21:34 at some point we need to read what HP has said they will deliver in 1.0 and try to start filling the gaps so we can get enough bits to put OW on real HW and have a functional system. Sep 05 05:23:19 * invalidopcode is going to preform surgery on his touchpad tomorrow so he can hopefully help :) Sep 05 05:27:28 invalidopcode, this is more of a fishing expedition to determine what has been said and start to think about the bits that are missing from what has been said that we need. Sep 05 05:28:36 ka6sox: ah cool... do I need bring my fishing hat? its got some pretty lures :P Sep 05 05:32:30 invalidopcode, yes Sep 05 05:32:44 awesome haha Sep 05 05:33:01 I guess I could announce a fishing expedition where we all come together and figure out what bits are missing to make this work for a REAL device. Sep 05 05:34:34 I think we would need to pick a REAL device to try to target then Sep 05 05:35:07 we all have touchpad lol Sep 05 05:35:41 and Pre3 :) Sep 05 05:37:04 invalidopcode, this isn't a hardware critique...its a software review of what we have and what we need. Sep 05 05:37:05 http://www.vtechkids.com/brands/brand_view/mobigo2 Sep 05 05:37:13 boom. demo device Sep 05 05:37:20 or we could just target everyone's favorite, the generic qemu emulatory Sep 05 05:37:56 ka6sox: no, I know... I thought your last comment was saying you wanted to look at the parts for a real device Sep 05 05:38:01 my misunderstanding Sep 05 05:38:19 halfhalo: Perfect! lets ship it! Sep 05 05:38:49 actually halfhalo isn't too far off for this exercise... Sep 05 05:39:08 they stopped making their laptops. damnations Sep 05 05:39:08 we need to abstract out the hardware and just simply look @ what we need to deliver for a functional OS. Sep 05 05:39:48 shouldn't the mother ship already have that info...? Sep 05 05:39:54 Kernel -> Services -> API -> UI :) Sep 05 05:41:05 invalidopcode, yes, but what bits are going to be MISSING due to the stated goals of Desktop build and QEMU emulator... Sep 05 05:41:42 ka6sox: are you annoyed with me? :P Sep 05 05:41:50 not at all.. Sep 05 05:41:59 haha Sep 05 05:42:28 I realize exactly what your saying, I'm just being sarcastic Sep 05 05:42:29 eg: BT control app, WiFi Control App,... Sep 05 05:42:41 ~lart invalidopcode Sep 05 05:42:41 * WoceBot pulls out his louisville slugger and uses invalidopcode's head to break the homerun record Sep 05 05:42:46 those are all there I think Sep 05 05:43:00 ka6sox: the view is great from up here Sep 05 05:43:26 I vote for aiosettings to get licensed for use officially Sep 05 05:43:56 and tweaks. and add a aiosettings page for tweaks Sep 05 05:44:36 get on that Sep 05 05:44:45 do we know if Just Type is supposed to be working in 1.0? Sep 05 05:45:13 I can't really negotiate on behalf of openwebos .. Sep 05 05:46:44 on the other hand, if I worked for the mothership, my unique combination of sales, management, engineering, and user experience could be highly beneficial for several different uses. but, I don't. Sep 05 05:48:58 * halfhalo double checks Sep 05 05:49:35 yup. still an hp drone. Sep 05 05:49:51 And the just type engine should be working now. No backends iirc though Sep 05 05:52:38 hey EricBlade-TP_ I bet they'll need plenty of messaging plugins... :P Sep 05 05:54:29 yeah.. don't seem to be interested in the messaging stuff right now Sep 05 05:58:11 okay I'm out. night all Sep 05 05:58:22 ka6sox: you can have your peace and quiet back now Sep 05 06:00:11 EricBlade-TP_, aiosettings is either GPLv3 or v2, and available to use now...might even be Apache2 too! Sep 05 06:00:29 invalidopcode, I'll expect you to show up for the fishing expo Sep 05 06:18:24 EricBlade, that is a show Stopper for a "Web OS" Sep 05 06:31:12 ka6sox: what is? Sep 05 06:31:34 not dealing with Messaging issues Sep 05 06:31:52 interacting with others... Sep 05 06:36:17 last thing i heard about messaging, was when i pointed out the problem that i'd discovered with conversation identifiers not being unique enough, ben had mentioned "i don't even know who's responsible for messaging anymore" Sep 05 06:38:09 * ka6sox looks to get clarification about this... Sep 05 07:09:08 of course, that wasn't long after the last major reshuffling of people, so that didn't surprise me all that much at the time Sep 05 07:10:16 my guess is that the messaging system will probably get some significant work done to it .. in the future. not in the very immediate future, though Sep 05 07:10:41 * EricBlade groans Sep 05 07:10:49 the dev mailing lists are under full moderation Sep 05 07:11:32 as if the hp/palm/gram people don't have better things to do with their time than babysit a mailing list queue for a brand new list Sep 05 07:17:32 it got forwarded..I saw it. Sep 05 07:26:35 hmm? Sep 05 07:27:52 your ML email Sep 05 07:41:31 EricBlade: ping Sep 05 07:41:42 hi Sep 05 07:42:20 hi, you said you can't find lunapref.h right? Sep 05 07:43:32 and it is lunaprefs.h but not lunapref.h Sep 05 07:45:20 the header file is in the openwebos/luna-prefs repo Sep 05 09:08:49 Morning Sep 05 09:09:15 Does anyone know how to get a touch keypad / board on an webos device? Sep 05 09:13:49 Guess noones here? Sep 05 10:41:13 yoddle Sep 05 13:21:50 Had an issue with spread gestures when enabled spread fingers on wallpaper (no cards open) crashed lunasysmgr Sep 05 15:08:03 morning all Sep 05 15:08:11 * ShiftyAxel finishes reading the scrollback Sep 05 15:08:20 * ShiftyAxel blames ka6sox for the gratituous versioning Sep 05 15:08:46 also AIOSettings won't work in OWO, it's a wrapper for the 3.x settings apps, and they don't exist in OWO (hence why they need to be made) Sep 05 15:20:32 ShiftyAxel: gratuitous? Sep 05 15:20:41 yus Sep 05 15:20:47 we're already up to 4.7.0 Sep 05 15:21:05 we'll probably have to change to 5.x when we hit 4.65536.0 Sep 05 15:21:25 lol wut, 1.0 hasn't even come out yet Sep 05 15:22:30 yeah, but we counted the community edition code as 4.x, since the closed-source palm stuff was 3.x Sep 05 15:22:39 or are you talking about CE? Sep 05 15:30:43 I am indeed talking about CE Sep 05 15:31:01 in response to EricBlade's implication that I was playing it fast and loose with the versions ;) Sep 05 16:05:19 + Sep 05 16:08:13 Σ Sep 05 16:10:34 sorry Sep 05 16:23:10 rod... Sep 05 16:23:22 http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3293444/nokia-lumia-920-wireless-charging#113626552 lol Sep 05 16:25:31 I like that people are converging on the Qi standard Sep 05 16:38:41 what is this 'Qi' you speak of? Sep 05 16:42:53 it's just wireless charging, been around for ages. can't think of which devices actually had it, though... Sep 05 16:44:08 it's a standard put in place by Energizer, iirc Sep 05 16:44:37 I'm not sure any devices prior to the Nokias have had it built in Sep 05 16:46:01 ah right, it's the standard. so soon we'll all have charging tables Sep 05 16:46:28 that would be great Sep 05 16:48:53 good to hear it comes from a battery company Sep 05 16:57:02 ShiftyAxel: do the settings apps need to be made, or just released .. Sep 05 16:57:21 EricBlade: made Sep 05 16:58:06 so the ideal imo would be to make a 'Settings' app with bindings to the OWO settings Sep 05 16:58:33 perhaps base it off tweaks to make it easier to fudge in new things Sep 05 17:14:33 * HaDAk|work|away got the job Sep 05 17:14:35 * HaDAk|work|away cheers Sep 05 17:21:56 wooooo Sep 05 17:25:10 nice one Sep 05 17:34:36 * ShiftyAxel is squashing bugs today Sep 05 17:35:58 ShiftyAxel: clearly is not Buddhist. :/ Sep 05 17:36:24 computer bugs Sep 05 17:36:38 though i can't stand mosquitoes either, so yes indeed Sep 05 17:37:57 Ah. Well.... Mosquitos are valid to kill. :) Sep 05 17:38:06 omg west nile Sep 05 17:38:54 * dkirker gives it to EricBlade Sep 05 17:39:05 no i don't want to be a zombie Sep 05 17:39:11 EricBlade: Boxcar is FINALLY back online........... I was thinking that they would never fixit.... Sep 05 17:39:17 *fix it Sep 05 17:39:21 HaDak|work; congrats, way to go! Sep 05 17:39:59 dkirker: now if only we could get isis on our devices to fix the socket problem... ;) Sep 05 17:40:15 EricBlade: Working on it!! Sep 05 17:40:27 Tell my paying job boss to let me spend more time on webOS stuff. :D Sep 05 17:41:29 dkirker's boss: dkirker has important knowledge and experience that is highly valuable to a million webos users. please give him a couple of days off, so he can do stuff for us. paid days off, that is. Sep 05 17:47:15 dear boss: please give dkirker a week of paid leave, for reasons outlined in the [REDACTED] [REDACTED] secret government memo sent to your office Sep 05 17:47:35 LOL Sep 05 17:49:36 dkirker: i just discovered that the text indexer doesn't work on webos2 to properly make synergv links clickable in messaging :( Sep 05 17:49:58 :S wha?...... Sep 05 17:50:02 it should.... Sep 05 17:50:57 you know how on touchpad, when you get a missed call or a voicemail, it'll drop a link in the Messaging app to launch the app to call or listen to vm .. that looks like synergv://placeCall/webOSAccountNumber/phoneNumber Sep 05 17:51:22 Ah! It probably doesn't recognize the scheme. Sep 05 17:51:25 on webOS 2 it makes the phoneNumber portion clickable, not the entire URL Sep 05 17:51:54 dkirkers boss: please clone dkirker and let dkirker2 stay at work while dkirker1 works on webOS. Oh and give both a raise. Sep 05 17:52:07 not sure if that's because it looks like a phone number, and that takes precedence, or if like you said it doesn't recognize the scheme Sep 05 17:52:46 oh, wait, it's http://synergv/placecall/accountId/phoneNumber Sep 05 17:52:55 so it's probably the phoneNumber getting parsed first and screwing it up Sep 05 18:01:37 that is probably true then. Sep 05 18:01:42 yeah :/ Sep 05 18:01:58 the person who wrote that indexer.... well.... it is a rather ugly piece of code. Sep 05 18:02:04 I think that you can see it in the diff. Sep 05 18:11:52 testers! testers needed! 4.7.3, get your 4.7.3! Sep 05 18:12:00 morning amnoth, long time no see Sep 05 18:12:14 Morning. Yeah, classes started back up... Sep 05 18:12:17 Busy busy time. Sep 05 18:12:23 How goes it in webos land? Sep 05 18:12:37 4.7.3? Sep 05 18:12:40 did I miss something? Sep 05 18:12:42 good, we're up to 4.7.3 in LunaCE, getting better and stabler as ever :) Sep 05 18:12:46 yesterday it was still 4.7.0 ^^ Sep 05 18:12:53 Awesome. Sep 05 18:12:54 testers needed! Sep 05 18:13:05 OWO's alpha has been released, and is pretty neat Sep 05 18:13:09 unfinished though Sep 05 18:13:43 ShiftyAxel: OW alpha?! I think what they released in August was called "beta" Sep 05 18:14:04 officially, yes, but it's more of an alpha as has been discussed here Sep 05 18:14:12 it's pre-alphay... Sep 05 18:14:21 what did they release now? Sep 05 18:14:22 heh. Sep 05 18:14:22 see? Sep 05 18:14:24 *pre-alpha Sep 05 18:18:29 ShiftyAxel: ok can test quickly. use the same process as before? Sep 05 18:18:51 ya, git pull the repo or delete and re-clone Sep 05 18:19:00 then continue as normal Sep 05 18:19:29 so git clone--what is the rest of it? Sep 05 18:19:38 oh git pull now? Sep 05 18:19:51 yeah, cd into the git folder and run 'git pull' Sep 05 18:20:10 it'll update what's changed and not touch what hasn't, faster and saves bandwidth Sep 05 18:20:32 cool Sep 05 18:20:40 done Sep 05 18:21:28 did it list changes? Sep 05 18:21:41 as in not just say 'Everything up to date' Sep 05 18:21:59 it pulled down some stuff. so sh install.sh? I thought that was it but says unable to find device Sep 05 18:22:29 you need to make sure the TP is plugged in Sep 05 18:22:36 oh sorry error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge: install.sh Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge. Aborting Sep 05 18:22:44 its plugged in Sep 05 18:23:01 …you modified install.sh? Sep 05 18:23:16 no Sep 05 18:23:30 so long as it pulled down the binary (LunaSysMgr) you should be fine to run install.sh as it is Sep 05 18:23:32 bluen: didn't you try to chmod +x it? Sep 05 18:23:46 pc-world: I believe so, which means it is modified Sep 05 18:23:48 (that might be the cause) Sep 05 18:23:57 no, last time chmod did not work so did not try. but anyway what about that error message? Sep 05 18:24:33 bluen: if you think it "did not work" but you ran it then it ran... (obviously) Sep 05 18:24:42 i did run chmod last time, it did not work so we went to sh install. sh Sep 05 18:24:52 yeah that's why it might be modified now Sep 05 18:25:12 bluen: try this: git checkout woce/features -- install.sh Sep 05 18:25:16 pc-world. ok lets back up what does chmod +x do Sep 05 18:25:20 and then run "git status" to see if everything is fine now Sep 05 18:25:36 oops Sep 05 18:25:40 not woce/features Sep 05 18:25:58 probably origin/maste Sep 05 18:25:59 r Sep 05 18:26:06 dkirker: detecting urls, and then adding on top of that all the other stuff that it tries to url-ize is seriously complicated business, though. Sep 05 18:26:22 lets start again, what did chmod do last time? second, what should i do now Sep 05 18:26:45 bluen: didn't you read what I wrote a few seconds ago? Sep 05 18:27:07 pc-world: not clear enough. just answer the question please Sep 05 18:27:20 i dont have a lot of time Sep 05 18:27:39 ShiftyAxel and I wrote you what you can do...... Sep 05 18:27:51 run install.sh with the device plugged in Sep 05 18:28:02 confirm that it says 4.7.3 Sep 05 18:28:08 test the bugs i mentioned Sep 05 18:28:55 install.sh command not found Sep 05 18:29:09 ... Sep 05 18:29:14 it's './install.sh' Sep 05 18:29:14 lets go back to the error and fix it Sep 05 18:29:30 there isn't enough time if you're on a schedule Sep 05 18:29:31 thats it great Sep 05 18:29:43 please commit it to memory Sep 05 18:29:51 ./ means 'the current directory' Sep 05 18:30:06 so ./install.sh means 'run install.sh in the current directory' Sep 05 18:30:20 Sure, last time had to do the sh install.sh so not clear when one works and when the other works Sep 05 18:31:31 bluen: then just run "sh install.sh" if it works for you...... Sep 05 18:31:45 * ShiftyAxel facepalms Sep 05 18:31:48 pc-world: shifty's worked for me today Sep 05 18:31:52 but not yesterday Sep 05 18:31:59 bluen: just run whatever works... Sep 05 18:32:07 but says 4.7.0 Sep 05 18:33:56 folks Sep 05 18:33:58 ~boom ShiftyAxel Sep 05 18:33:58 * WoceBot shoots ShiftyAxel in the head with a large caliber revolver and lays them to rest in a shallow grave Sep 05 18:34:50 trying again with sh install.sh Sep 05 18:34:55 lol who wrote that WoceBot? :D Sep 05 18:35:00 it didn't update the binary Sep 05 18:35:18 please delete your LunaSysMgr-binaries dir and reclone it from github Sep 05 18:35:36 pc-world: you can tell WoceBot whatever you want it to say :) Sep 05 18:35:52 ~gzip bluen Sep 05 18:35:52 * WoceBot compresses bluen into a .tar.gz and uploads him to Github Sep 05 18:36:09 ~split ka6sox-away Sep 05 18:36:13 doesn't work :P Sep 05 18:36:17 lol Sep 05 18:36:26 lol, netsplits are bad Sep 05 18:37:02 dir trashed Sep 05 18:37:08 I rather meant Linux split Sep 05 18:37:48 wow... fluid gestures are really nice Sep 05 18:38:02 fluid gestures? Sep 05 18:38:11 EricBlade: Yeah, I know. :) Sep 05 18:38:20 I haven't tried woce yet, are those the ones that look like waves? Sep 05 18:38:39 no Sep 05 18:38:50 it's a gesture detecture mechanism for upswipe gesture etc. Sep 05 18:38:52 NO Sep 05 18:38:58 ~lart whoeverToldYouThat Sep 05 18:38:58 * WoceBot whacks whoeverToldYouThat with the cluebat Sep 05 18:38:59 *detection Sep 05 18:39:31 try enabling it and slowly sliding your finger up from the bezel Sep 05 18:39:36 when you have a card maximized Sep 05 18:39:41 notice anything different? Sep 05 18:39:53 ShiftyAxel: he said "I haven't tried woce" :) Sep 05 18:40:00 doh Sep 05 18:40:18 basically it makes gestures follow your finger Sep 05 18:40:34 Sounds fun. Sep 05 18:40:39 so instead of starting a preset 'minimize' or 'switch' animation, the cards actually move w/your finger Sep 05 18:40:44 I take it that fixes the keyboard push errors. :) Sep 05 18:41:11 So much code to go through. I should have stayed on top of all this. >< Sep 05 18:42:38 shiftyaxel: deleted dir, cloned again cd'd into dir, ran sh install.sh and still get 4.7.0 Sep 05 18:43:27 urrrg, bollocks, the wrong one's in the repo Sep 05 18:43:36 grrrr Sep 05 18:43:37 you should still have the fixes, just not the updated versiontext Sep 05 18:44:24 where is the list of bugs i am testing Sep 05 18:47:13 lunace in launcher only lists up to 4.7.0 Sep 05 18:47:40 ShiftyAxel: [7:43pm] you should still have the fixes, just not the updated versiontext Sep 05 18:48:02 bluen: changelog is just updated when you update the ipk via preware Sep 05 18:48:40 folks what am I looking for in terms of bug fixes? Sep 05 18:49:40 spread gesture no longer crashes w/no cards Sep 05 18:50:01 dynamic height dashboards now display properly on the lockscreen Sep 05 18:50:25 full-screen app switching with infinite card cycling enables now behaves more consistently Sep 05 18:51:22 card cycling looks ok Sep 05 18:52:13 spread gesture seems fine to me Sep 05 18:52:21 yay I found a really cool bug Sep 05 18:52:25 i have the patch that takes off the lockscreen hold on Sep 05 18:52:26 which I like very much! Sep 05 18:52:33 please don't fix it :D Sep 05 18:52:49 bluen: you mean you have no lockscreen? Sep 05 18:52:56 pc-world: what bug would this be? :P Sep 05 18:53:44 shiftyaxel; i have disable lock screen patch. I can remove it if you like and test. What is an app that uses dynamic dashboards Sep 05 18:53:51 fluid gestures - when I upswipe to a specific height, so that the card is still quite large, then turn the screen off and on, the cards are still of that size Sep 05 18:53:59 finally bigger cards in card view ^^ Sep 05 18:54:14 though sadly they reset to normal size when I e.g. open an app and upswipe again Sep 05 18:54:20 bluen: yes, please do... Sep 05 18:54:37 pc-world: it shouldn't be too hard to impliment custom card sizing with gestures Sep 05 18:54:59 I don't get why the cards are so small by default Sep 05 18:55:01 how would you like it to function? pinch on a single card to zoom the whole lot in and out? Sep 05 18:55:11 I plan to reimpliment minicards also Sep 05 18:55:18 well, I think it would be even fine to just specify the height of cards in Tweaks Sep 05 18:55:41 wow that's cool too :) Sep 05 18:55:45 I'd like to make it tactile myself Sep 05 18:55:58 webOS needs more tactile Sep 05 18:57:59 what are you using to test dashboard height Sep 05 18:58:12