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Sep 15 03:02:09 * lagoldste waves from 4.9.6
Sep 15 03:02:41 <fxspec06> http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/173
Sep 15 03:03:33 <lagoldste> ok, now what is supposed to be working again? the reboot ate my wirc cache
Sep 15 03:05:12 <fxspec06> bluetooth kb: ctrl tab/ctrl shift tab
Sep 15 03:05:21 <fxspec06> and the trackball in VKB
Sep 15 03:07:33 * ShiftyAxel sleeptypes 'and Ctrl+arrowszzzz'
Sep 15 03:12:01 <lagoldste> ctrl + tab and ctrl + shift + tab both do the same thing, which is go to tabbed mode and change stacks
Sep 15 03:12:13 <lagoldste> ctrl + arrows doesn't do anything that i can tell
Sep 15 03:16:46 <ka6sox> are we 3/3 lagoldste ?
Sep 15 03:16:50 <lagoldste> maybe i should pair this kbd with my work laptop, which has bt, and run xev to get the scan codes
Sep 15 03:16:58 <lagoldste> we're out, i think
Sep 15 03:17:33 * ka6sox waits for 2 thumbs up
Sep 15 03:17:35 <lagoldste> ctrl + tab partially works, or rather works differently from the way i suggested in my bug report
Sep 15 03:17:48 <lagoldste> ctrl + shift + tab does the same thing
Sep 15 03:18:11 <lagoldste> ctrl + arrows does nothing in full screen mode
Sep 15 03:18:39 <lagoldste> in card mode it does the same as just the arrow keys
Sep 15 03:19:12 * lagoldste wonders if she was writing in a foreign tongue or something
Sep 15 03:21:13 <lagoldste> *crickets*
Sep 15 03:21:36 <lagoldste> yeah, i'd better provide scan codes, i think
Sep 15 03:21:38 <ka6sox> nope...
Sep 15 03:21:44 <ka6sox> I was waiting for 2 thumbs up :D
Sep 15 03:21:46 <lagoldste> nope what?
Sep 15 03:21:56 <lagoldste> no comment
Sep 15 03:22:01 <ka6sox> okay...
Sep 15 03:22:25 <ka6sox> I guess I'm getting tired...I just started laughing for no reason.
Sep 15 03:22:33 <lagoldste> is ok
Sep 15 03:23:00 <ka6sox> lagoldste, are you satisfied we can ship this or do we want to send it back for more "fixes"?
Sep 15 03:23:28 <lagoldste> how many times do i have to say that it is not doing what i expected from the way i wrote my bug report?
Sep 15 03:23:37 <ka6sox> no more...
Sep 15 03:24:08 <ka6sox> lets see..how do I capture what was said and get it as feedback.
Sep 15 03:24:29 <lagoldste> i wanted to be able to specifically go in and out of tabbed mode and be able to select cards while doing so
Sep 15 03:25:08 <lagoldste> the arrow keys already move from card to card when in card mode. didn't need ctrl + arrows to do that
Sep 15 03:25:13 <lagoldste> already does it
Sep 15 03:25:40 <lagoldste> not sure what ctrl + tab + shift is supposed to do, since noone's answered that question yet
Sep 15 03:26:06 <lagoldste> but it works identically to ctrl + tab
Sep 15 03:26:07 <ka6sox> the guy who wrote that fell asleep on his keyboard.
Sep 15 03:26:20 <lagoldste> i'd ship 4.9.5 and work on these later
Sep 15 03:26:30 <ka6sox> 4.9.5 is out
Sep 15 03:26:37 <lagoldste> right :P
Sep 15 03:26:39 <ka6sox> and 4.9.6 is being sent back.
Sep 15 03:26:42 <lagoldste> i'm tired too
Sep 15 03:27:11 <ka6sox> want me to capture your thoughts into the bug report or do you wish to?
Sep 15 03:27:36 <lagoldste> would you, please? i think i want to just go home and forget computers for a few hours
Sep 15 03:29:07 <ka6sox> seems like a reasonable thing to do.
Sep 15 03:30:31 <lagoldste> i admit to being a bit annoyed- i checked my "real" email, the one i've got registered with the site, this morning. i saw ShiftyAxel had marked the bug as resolved. i had no emailed requests for clarification. and i thought i was very clear in my writing.
Sep 15 03:30:31 <lagoldste>  didn't have time to go back to the issues and look at whatever was written in the ticket
Sep 15 03:30:56 <ka6sox> I'm dealing with it...
Sep 15 03:31:01 <ka6sox> it will be sorted
Sep 15 03:31:06 <lagoldste> *nod* tnx
Sep 15 03:31:11 <lagoldste> i *am* tired
Sep 15 03:31:39 <lagoldste> i'm starting to not be able to control my pissiness level very well
Sep 15 03:32:04 <lagoldste> time to ping my husband in his office and go home
Sep 15 03:32:28 <ka6sox> Good Plan(tm)
Sep 15 03:32:48 <ka6sox> okay I marked it as "in progress" and shipped it back.
Sep 15 03:32:51 <lagoldste> and there are half a dozen single malts at home calling my name....
Sep 15 03:32:53 <lagoldste> :)
Sep 15 03:33:01 <ka6sox> wheee!
Sep 15 03:35:24 <lagoldste> it is nice that ctrl+tab will go to tabbed cards now, though until i can jump from card to card it's more of an interruption than a help
Sep 15 03:36:04 <lagoldste> g'night all :)
Sep 15 03:36:27 <fxspec06> good night!
Sep 15 03:39:31 <ka6sox> I think I'll call this an alpha and get some testing on it
Sep 15 03:39:39 <ka6sox> especially the new feature
Sep 15 03:39:56 <ka6sox> and get a fix for the BT Keyboard in the next release
Sep 15 03:48:03 <lagoldste> at least the bt kbd stuff that was working before is still working. so that's a good sign
Sep 15 03:48:12 <ka6sox> wheeeee!
Sep 15 03:48:44 <ka6sox> its been reverted so I suspect that we found enough to warrant taking another look before going out.
Sep 15 03:49:11 <lagoldste> *nod*
Sep 15 03:49:32 <lagoldste> i shall go back to 4.9.5 later
Sep 15 03:49:44 <ka6sox> lagoldste, the Testing Page Wins! :
Sep 15 03:49:46 <ka6sox> :)
Sep 15 03:50:01 * lagoldste bows
Sep 15 03:51:49 <lagoldste> a thought about the git repo- include a 2nd copy of install.sh named install.bat, so we don't have to tell windows testers to rename the file (which they'd have to do every time)
Sep 15 03:52:14 <lagoldste> and does install_tweaks.sh need to be renamed to .bat as well?
Sep 15 03:52:34 <lagoldste> (even more reason to have two copies of each)
Sep 15 03:55:17 <ka6sox> right...we should get with LarrySteeze on this tommorrow :D
Sep 15 03:56:03 <Loudergood> make install.bat rename install_tweaks.sh ;)
Sep 15 03:57:35 <ka6sox> lessee..do I even have rights to that repo?
Sep 15 03:57:38 <ka6sox> hmmmm....
Sep 15 15:00:25 <k4ever> morning all.
Sep 15 15:02:32 <ShiftyAxel> morning k4ever
Sep 15 15:04:20 <k4ever> hey ShiftyAxel, nice work on LunaCE 4.9.5.  I've been away for the last 5 days and came back to a pleasant surprise with the new wave launcher.
Sep 15 15:04:36 <ShiftyAxel> there's more good stuff in the pipeline too :)
Sep 15 15:04:48 <ShiftyAxel> https://twitter.com/shiftyaxel/status/246788071742382080
Sep 15 15:10:26 <k4ever> Way cool!  a d-pad for moving the cursor!
Sep 15 15:11:37 <Stskeeps> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvRP3rcF9o might also interest some people in here
Sep 15 15:11:48 <Stskeeps> also works in 1024x768 at 60fps
Sep 15 15:18:34 <k4ever> I don't understand what that video was about
Sep 15 15:19:22 <Stskeeps> k4ever: actually running a complex framework like qt5 on top of my wrapper that makes it possible to use GPU drivers made for android, within non-android
Sep 15 15:19:36 <Stskeeps> solving the hardware availability problems for non-android
Sep 15 15:19:41 <k4ever> ShiftyAxel, I thought you guys were at a feature freeze?
Sep 15 15:20:32 <ShiftyAxel> Stskeeps: awesome, can't remember the last time I saw a TP run at 60fps :D
Sep 15 15:20:35 <k4ever> cool
Sep 15 15:20:42 <ShiftyAxel> and with a wrapper too, that's really impressive
Sep 15 15:21:10 <ShiftyAxel> k4ever: we are in a feature freeze, but it was to fix a reported 'bug' so it's kind of a grey area
Sep 15 15:21:47 <panda-z> how about the compatability with the newest kernel?
Sep 15 15:21:54 <k4ever> ok, I thought it was for a stable release..
Sep 15 15:22:07 <Stskeeps> i'm using this with android CM7 kernel fwiw
Sep 15 15:23:26 <panda-z> k, it's awesome
Sep 15 15:27:05 <Stskeeps> ShiftyAxel: fairly sure it's capable of doing hardcore interfaces..
Sep 15 17:34:49 <eblade_pre3> what's happening peeoples
Sep 15 17:36:13 <ShiftyAxel> every time that message comes up I envision halfhalo being swept away by a massive tidal wave
Sep 15 17:41:23 * eblade_pre3 lols at the wirc titlebar "wire - damn you autocorrect" 
Sep 15 17:45:15 <LarrySteeze> wirc kills me sometimes with autocorrect. I can't tell me how many times I've had to change my password because I've accidentally sent it to "nuclear" instead of "nickserv"
Sep 15 17:48:22 <eblade_pre3> you could add nickserv to your dictionary.
Sep 15 17:48:56 <eblade_pre3> this one doesn't autocorrect nickserv to anything though
Sep 15 17:49:32 <LarrySteeze> I wipe the device enough that it's too much of a pain
Sep 15 18:28:54 <eblade_pre3> shifty you broke my touchpad
Sep 15 18:29:07 <ShiftyAxel> ~blame the govt.
Sep 15 18:29:07 * WoceBot blames the govt. for everything
Sep 15 18:29:17 <eblade_pre3> I only have the wave launcher now no quicklaunch :|
Sep 15 18:29:34 <ShiftyAxel> try bringing the wave up again and dismissing it
Sep 15 18:29:43 <ShiftyAxel> then please open a bug on the issue tracker :)
Sep 15 18:29:46 <eblade_pre3> I just flipped it open to look up an email and was like.. wha?
Sep 15 18:30:35 <eblade_pre3> came back after about three tries
Sep 15 19:30:20 <Grabber5_0> morning all
Sep 15 19:33:53 <ShiftyAxel> morning Grabber5_0
Sep 15 19:36:33 <Grabber5_0> I need to ask a slightly off-topic question because nobody seems to be home in the webosinternals channel
Sep 15 19:37:41 <ShiftyAxel> shoot
Sep 15 19:38:16 <Grabber5_0> are you very familiar with the Frankenstein comm board swap / restrictor stuff?
Sep 15 19:38:49 <Grabber5_0> ok is that a wirc bug, a bt keyboard bug, or a LunaCE bug? :(
Sep 15 19:39:06 <Grabber5_0> I un-corrected those and it sent the corrected version anyway
Sep 15 19:39:31 <Grabber5_0> s/Frankenstein/FrankenPre
Sep 15 19:39:50 <Grabber5_0> s/restrictor/metadoctor/
Sep 15 19:40:07 <Grabber5_0> anyway.. :)
Sep 15 19:41:54 <Grabber5_0> From recent discussions I know the metadoctor scripts are now set up so you don't have to copy tokens to build a Franken Pre2
Sep 15 19:42:36 <ShiftyAxel> I think that's a webOS bug in general :P
Sep 15 19:42:44 <ShiftyAxel> oho, that's cool
Sep 15 19:43:26 <Grabber5_0> I want to (as a test, so I don't destroy my Pre2) practice by swapping comm boards between to Sprint Pre's.  I think the one has a bad board, and the other I know to be good
Sep 15 19:43:50 <Grabber5_0> s/to Sprint/two Sprint/
Sep 15 19:43:51 <WoceBot> Grabber5_0 meant: I want to (as a test, so I don't destroy my Pre2) practice by swapping comm boards between two Sprint Pre's.  I think the one has a bad board, and the other I know to be good
Sep 15 19:44:05 <Grabber5_0> I did it! :)
Sep 15 19:46:02 <ShiftyAxel> welcome to the land of regex :D
Sep 15 19:46:38 <ShiftyAxel> I'm not very familiar with metadoctor, but shouldn't you not need to doctor if you're swapping between two of the same device?
Sep 15 19:47:10 <Grabber5_0> No idea.. can't find anything about it on the forums or wiki so far
Sep 15 19:47:41 <Grabber5_0> I know the ESN etc are baked into the comm board
Sep 15 20:00:17 <Grabber5_0> I guess I could just fire it up and see what happens.. can't hurt anything.. right? :D
Sep 15 20:02:14 <ShiftyAxel> well, you can always redoctor I guess :P
Sep 15 20:08:54 <Grabber5_0> I'm just paranoid about the whole token thing
Sep 15 20:09:57 <Grabber5_0> it used to be a really big deal, but now it is not, and it doesn't seem to be documented anywhere WHY it isn't a big deal any more.  I'm assuming they modified the metadoctor script to handle that part
Sep 15 20:10:12 <Grabber5_0> if so, then a regular doctor would not handle it right
Sep 15 20:11:10 <Grabber5_0> so how's the nipple coming along?
Sep 15 20:12:55 <ShiftyAxel> it's good, all done actually
Sep 15 20:13:20 <ShiftyAxel> it has a trackball and four little arrows around it that light up when you slide in their direction
Sep 15 20:14:04 <ShiftyAxel> it didn't get pushed out last night due to the keyboard shortcuts not being up to standard
Sep 15 20:15:41 <ShiftyAxel> that's fixed now though, so I guess I should push out a release candidate and get some testing on
Sep 15 20:24:55 <Grabber5_0> Cool
Sep 15 20:25:18 <Grabber5_0> My 6 yr old is demanding I play on the Wii with her.. must go for a while
Sep 15 20:26:13 <Grabber5_0> I powered on that phone and pulled the tokens with show properties.. will be interesting to see if they are the right ones :)
Sep 15 20:26:34 <Grabber5_0> Couldn't do it on the old one as the screen was chewed up (literally)
Sep 15 20:28:31 <Grabber5_0> bbl
Sep 15 21:58:24 * EricBlade yawns
Sep 15 23:39:57 * Grabber puts shaving cream on Eric's hand and tickles his nose with a feather
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