**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 16 03:00:00 2012
Sep 16 14:17:22 <ShiftyAxel> morning all
Sep 16 14:17:48 <Caleb> howdy
Sep 16 15:28:56 <ShiftyAxel> *boom* *ka-chik* scratch another bug
Sep 16 17:46:09 <ShiftyAxel> anybody about?
Sep 16 17:46:16 <ShiftyAxel> I require testers for a new release
Sep 16 18:13:39 <bluen> morning
Sep 16 18:14:09 <ShiftyAxel> moaning bluen
Sep 16 18:14:23 <bluen> moaning, huh? doesnt sound good
Sep 16 18:17:19 <ShiftyAxel> bluen: up for testing a new build?
Sep 16 18:18:08 <bluen> Yes, I want to help. In about a half hour? I have one email I need to send  first for upcoming Cali trip.
Sep 16 18:19:58 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, half an hour should be good. ping me when you're ready and I'll tell you what we're testing
Sep 16 18:20:45 <Daughain> Anyone here?
Sep 16 18:21:30 <bluen> Cool shiftyaxel. Saw some drawing you did but have to catch up to all the new features since you first started wave launcher and i tested it. I did put lunace on my main touchpad so that should help me get better acquainted (the dev touchpad is now stock)
Sep 16 18:21:55 <bluen> ps if any HP people lurking in the channel and want to get together when I am in cali, Dm me
Sep 16 18:22:40 <ShiftyAxel> Daughain: greetings
Sep 16 18:22:54 <Daughain> Hey, ShiftyAxel
Sep 16 18:23:07 <ShiftyAxel> what is the nature of the medical emergency?
Sep 16 18:23:27 <Daughain> How many reboots does lunace take to settle in?
Sep 16 18:23:42 <Daughain> No emergency, just a few questions.
Sep 16 18:23:54 <ShiftyAxel> only one thankfully, it's not like blackberry OS ;)
Sep 16 18:24:31 <ShiftyAxel> bluen: features-wise we've got a trackball for text selection and some more BT key shortcuts, other than that it's all fixes
Sep 16 18:24:40 <Daughain> So, how do I know if the wave launched is actually working?
Sep 16 18:25:14 <ShiftyAxel> does it say 'WebOS Ports LunaCE <version number>' in the status bar?
Sep 16 18:25:28 <Daughain> Yup.
Sep 16 18:25:36 <ShiftyAxel> how are you trying to trigger the wave?
Sep 16 18:25:44 <Daughain> Tweaks.
Sep 16 18:25:53 <ShiftyAxel> enable != trigger
Sep 16 18:26:09 <ShiftyAxel> to actually make it appear, slide your finger upwards on the left or right edge of the screen
Sep 16 18:26:36 <Daughain> Ah, once triggered, does it stay after a reboot?
Sep 16 18:26:54 <ShiftyAxel> depends on what you mean by triggered
Sep 16 18:27:01 <ShiftyAxel> anything set in tweaks will persist over reboots
Sep 16 18:27:23 <Daughain> Cool.
Sep 16 18:28:49 <Daughain> Interesting. I can trigger it, but half of the wave is below the screen, and it reverts after opening and closing an app.
Sep 16 18:29:31 <ShiftyAxel> it's meant to appear from the bottom, then you release your finger, it launches the highlighted app and then disappears/reverts to the normal QL
Sep 16 18:31:40 <Daughain> Hmmmm.…doesn't work that way for me yet. Think I need a few more reboots.
Sep 16 18:31:58 <ShiftyAxel> Daughain: reboots will do nothing, I say this with 100% confidents
Sep 16 18:32:04 <ShiftyAxel> s/confidents/confidence/
Sep 16 18:32:04 <WoceBot> ShiftyAxel meant: Daughain: reboots will do nothing, I say this with 100% confidence
Sep 16 18:32:32 <ShiftyAxel> the initial one is only required because the install script can't swap out the old Luna for LunaCE
Sep 16 18:33:30 <Daughain> ShiftyAxel: cool, my experience says otherwise. After initial reboot, a second one was needed to save my tweaks settings.
Sep 16 18:35:27 <ShiftyAxel> Daughain: were you getting the service error in tweaks pre-reboot?
Sep 16 18:35:48 <ShiftyAxel> because that error doesn't actually mean anything 90% of the time, the preference will still be set
Sep 16 18:36:09 <Daughain> Yes, said it couldn't save the changes I made in tweaks.
Sep 16 18:36:33 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, it's a known issuie
Sep 16 18:36:43 <ShiftyAxel> they do actually get changed though
Sep 16 18:37:20 <Daughain> Ah.  I'll check after my next reboot.
Sep 16 18:37:48 <ShiftyAxel> seriously, you're wasting your time with all these reboots unless you're messing with luna config files
Sep 16 18:37:55 <Daughain> Still haven't gotten the custom carrier label to stick.
Sep 16 18:38:31 <ShiftyAxel> try opening and closing the launcher, there's a bug in the currently released version that makes it say 'HP webOS' until the title changes
Sep 16 18:38:40 <ShiftyAxel> stuff like opening/closing the launcher or an app
Sep 16 18:38:52 <ShiftyAxel> it's fixed in the current RC though
Sep 16 18:39:24 <Daughain> I just installed the current beta via preware.
Sep 16 18:39:39 <Daughain> 4.9.5
Sep 16 18:39:57 <ShiftyAxel> ya, that's an issue in 4.9.5
Sep 16 18:40:32 <Daughain> Also, I didn't have to re-enter my acct passwords....
Sep 16 18:41:25 <ShiftyAxel> doesn't happen for everyone
Sep 16 18:41:29 <Daughain> All my synergy accounts transferred fine.
Sep 16 18:43:53 <Daughain> Do ya know if the synergy issues happen when using the replacement stock lunasysmgr?
Sep 16 18:50:47 <Daughain> Gotta go. Thanks.
Sep 16 19:22:16 <ka6sox> bluen, is it about 1/2 an hour yet?
Sep 16 19:28:41 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, I see that you submitted a PR against tweaks to help with http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/175...we should probably let sconix know...
Sep 16 19:29:04 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, though further work needs done
Sep 16 19:29:47 <ShiftyAxel> the pull request isn't actually related to that bug, it's a 1-line change to make the luna menu item appear before the tweaks are finished loading (like all the other icons)
Sep 16 19:30:10 <ShiftyAxel> sconix: there's a bug in tweaks involving node/db8 services and db revision mismatches, but I don't know enough about them to fix it
Sep 16 19:54:09 <sconix> hmm wasn't there before :)
Sep 16 19:55:43 <sconix> or is that actually the old bug that it happens only when trying to slide that toggles not tap them?
Sep 16 19:56:04 * ShiftyAxel tests
Sep 16 19:56:13 <ShiftyAxel> well what do you know, it IS that
Sep 16 19:56:32 <sconix> if it is I have no idea how it should be fixed properly, I never could figure out why/how the toggle widget send events when its being dragged
Sep 16 19:57:13 <ShiftyAxel> fair enough, thank you for the insight though, that could prove valuable :)
Sep 16 19:57:15 <sconix> well to be honest did not have time to figure it out, I just always thought that its the widgets fault since it should always send only one event no matter if its tapped or dragged
Sep 16 19:57:20 * ShiftyAxel adds it to the bug entry
Sep 16 19:58:08 <sconix> but thats the only way I have seen the error and the only way it was reported back in the day to me
Sep 16 19:58:34 <ShiftyAxel> I knew I'd seen it before the mods I made, good to know I'm not crazy :)
Sep 16 19:58:59 <sconix> well not sure if that prooves that ;)
Sep 16 19:59:45 <sconix> joking a side yes its a problem and should have been fixed long time a go but never got to that
Sep 16 20:00:12 <ShiftyAxel> sanity is overrated
Sep 16 20:00:23 <sconix> yes definitely
Sep 16 20:00:32 <ShiftyAxel> and yeah, interesting… it seems to send a shitload of events when being dragged
Sep 16 20:01:25 <sconix> yeah and afaik there is no function for those event in any known use case so hence I put it under 'lets hope some webos update fixes it"
Sep 16 20:01:46 <sconix> but since it never happened it should have been fixed somehow
Sep 16 20:02:16 <ShiftyAxel> hmm, subclassing ToggleButton and making it only send one event should work
Sep 16 20:02:34 <ShiftyAxel> or just disabling drags, but I foresee wailing and gnashing of teeth in that situation
Sep 16 20:02:57 <sconix> I would guess there is easy "proper" fix for it
Sep 16 20:03:25 <sconix> maybe even the event data tells if its "finished" event or drag event and the drag stuff could be just ignored
Sep 16 20:06:13 <ShiftyAxel> just had a look at ToggleButton.js, looks like it's just badly made
Sep 16 20:10:51 <ka6sox> hiya sco
Sep 16 20:10:56 <ka6sox> sconix
Sep 16 20:11:04 <ShiftyAxel> okay, fixed the issue
Sep 16 20:11:36 <ka6sox> I'll bbl...glad to see you 2 sorting this.
Sep 16 20:11:44 <ShiftyAxel> I subclassed ToggleButton and had it check this.state against inState
Sep 16 20:12:04 <ShiftyAxel> sconix: I've updated my pull request with the relevant commit :)
Sep 16 20:18:22 <ShiftyAxel> I'm on fire today, blasting bugs left and right :D
Sep 16 21:49:48 <ShiftyAxel> time to try again I guess, anyone about to test a new release?
Sep 16 21:49:51 <ShiftyAxel> anyone at all?
Sep 16 21:50:46 <falchie> tester reporting for duty
Sep 16 21:53:55 <ShiftyAxel> good man, falchie :D
Sep 16 21:54:07 <ShiftyAxel> 4.9.7 is available in the binaries repo, alpha branch this time
Sep 16 21:55:01 <falchie> installing..
Sep 16 21:59:15 <falchie> hmm, still says 4.9.6
Sep 16 22:00:47 <fxspec06> ANYONE AT ALL
Sep 16 22:00:52 <fxspec06> whoops*
Sep 16 22:03:47 <ShiftyAxel> falchie: did you git pull inside your LunaSysMgr-binaries dir and run 'git checkout alpha'?
Sep 16 22:03:57 <ShiftyAxel> fxspec06: is that a 'me, me'? :D
Sep 16 22:04:18 <falchie> ShiftyAxel: yes
Sep 16 22:04:36 <ShiftyAxel> hrm, I'll see if it does the same for me
Sep 16 22:04:48 <ShiftyAxel> though my github GUI is showing 4.9.7 as the latest commit
Sep 16 22:06:34 <ShiftyAxel> falchie: what output do you get from 'git branch'?
Sep 16 22:06:53 <falchie> * alpha
Sep 16 22:07:15 <ShiftyAxel> it would appear that I've messed something up again :(
Sep 16 22:08:08 <falchie> the size of LunaSysMgr is 4667914 aka the one from alpha
Sep 16 22:09:38 <ShiftyAxel> right, I've re-pushed 4.9.7 to -binaries, just rebooting now and I'll re-tag it if successful
Sep 16 22:09:57 <ShiftyAxel> can't believe how bad my git-fu's been lately D:
Sep 16 22:10:03 <falchie> :)
Sep 16 22:12:07 <ShiftyAxel> falchie: works for me, try pulling and trying again
Sep 16 22:12:12 <falchie> rgr
Sep 16 22:13:48 <falchie> 4.9.7! :)
Sep 16 22:13:51 <ShiftyAxel> huzzah! :D
Sep 16 22:14:09 <ShiftyAxel> test candidates are largely bugfixes this time
Sep 16 22:14:16 <ShiftyAxel> and BT keyboard
Sep 16 22:14:38 <ShiftyAxel> I've improved the ctrl+tab behaviour to actually cycle through tabs now, and ctrl+arrows should work properly now
Sep 16 22:15:15 <ShiftyAxel> also Custom Carrier String/Device Name as Carriertext should apply from bootup now instead of the first time the status bar is updated
Sep 16 22:16:34 <ShiftyAxel> slide/fluid gestures now require 60px of movement to trigger when the keyboard is up too, to prevent accidental triggers
Sep 16 22:17:17 <ShiftyAxel> and stacks with more than 4 cards should work properly now, under 4.9.6 you couldn't tap on the far left ones
Sep 16 22:20:11 <falchie> so ctrl+tab should only cycle through tabs when you're "inside" a stack?
Sep 16 22:21:53 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, when you're minimized it should cycle around to the right
Sep 16 22:22:07 <ShiftyAxel> and if tabs are turned off it should do the same when maximized
Sep 16 22:29:27 <falchie> so with tabs turned off you can ctrl+tab out of a stack but not with tabs turned on?
Sep 16 22:29:55 <ShiftyAxel> yeah
Sep 16 22:30:25 <ShiftyAxel> admittedly it could be better, but you can leave the stack with ctrl+left/right
Sep 16 22:30:44 <falchie> yeah
Sep 16 22:31:02 <ShiftyAxel> I tried to get two-way cycling working with the up/down arrows in stack view, but the animation only worked properly in one direction :|
Sep 16 22:31:57 <falchie> was just about to ask about ctrl+shift+tab :)
Sep 16 22:34:00 <ShiftyAxel> I never implimented/mentioned any actions with shift :P
Sep 16 22:34:13 <ShiftyAxel> morning Grabber5_0
Sep 16 22:34:25 <Grabber5_0> morning all
Sep 16 22:34:50 * Grabber5_0 assumes ShiftyAxel isn't talking to himself
Sep 16 22:35:00 <ShiftyAxel> I'm talking to falchie :p
Sep 16 22:35:15 <ka6sox-away> heh
Sep 16 22:35:30 <ShiftyAxel> we're testing a new build atm, would you be up for testing? (if you have a TP, I have trouble keeping track of who does and doesn't >_>)
Sep 16 22:35:38 <Grabber5_0> ~morningall Grabber
Sep 16 22:35:38 * WoceBot picks up Grabber and waves them at the channel
Sep 16 22:36:38 <Grabber5_0> Did you do ctrl+sym+del? :D
Sep 16 22:36:49 <ShiftyAxel> sym?!
Sep 16 22:36:56 <falchie> ShiftyAxel: i know you didn't but my fingers keeps pressing ctrl+shift+tab :P
Sep 16 22:37:04 * ShiftyAxel only has a sym key on his Pre3
Sep 16 22:37:15 <ShiftyAxel> falchie: muscle memory from something else?
Sep 16 22:37:22 <falchie> yeah :)
Sep 16 22:37:36 * Grabber5_0 keeps looking at his BT keyboard thinking it is the same as the OS keyboard :/
Sep 16 22:37:53 <ShiftyAxel> falchie: how are the other bits working btw? the ones I posted earlier?
Sep 16 22:38:16 <Grabber5_0> yes, I can test a new build
Sep 16 22:38:25 <ShiftyAxel> sweet, ty :)
Sep 16 22:38:33 <ShiftyAxel> it's available in the -binaries repo, alpha branch
Sep 16 22:38:42 <Grabber5_0> I have finally at least *looked* at the source code for LunaSysMgr
Sep 16 22:38:49 <falchie> stacks with more cards: working, carrier string: working, ctrl+tab and ctrl+arrow: working
Sep 16 22:38:53 <ShiftyAxel> and I do that too often, testing ctrl+foo on my TP and end up triggering stuff on my macbook because I've been using it's keyboard...
Sep 16 22:38:56 <Grabber5_0> Still doesn't make me more than in imitation C++ programmer
Sep 16 22:39:12 <ShiftyAxel> hehe, the source can br very daunting at first
Sep 16 22:39:17 <ShiftyAxel> z/br/be/
Sep 16 22:39:19 <ShiftyAxel> :(
Sep 16 22:39:31 <Grabber5_0> If I could reboot my TP with 3 keys I'd feel like it was windows
Sep 16 22:39:46 <Grabber5_0> but it's only a wterm+'reboot' away :p
Sep 16 22:40:02 <ShiftyAxel> I'm looking to add more key shortcuts over time, so that could be a potential one
Sep 16 22:40:05 <Grabber5_0> I know I know I can use the power button with advanced reset patch
Sep 16 22:40:18 <ShiftyAxel> but the press-and-hold timer takes so loooooooong
Sep 16 22:40:24 * ShiftyAxel should look into fixing that
Sep 16 22:40:32 * Grabber5_0 stops making jokes and goes to get the binary
Sep 16 22:40:48 <Grabber5_0> yeah it is a bit long.. I grew a mole waiting for the menu
Sep 16 22:41:33 <ShiftyAxel> lol
Sep 16 22:41:37 <Grabber5_0> why did I just shut my laptop down, I need that for this :p
Sep 16 22:42:00 <ShiftyAxel> it appears to be set at 3000ms at the moment, does 1000ms sound like a significant improvement?
Sep 16 22:43:08 <Grabber5_0> I'd be okay with it.
Sep 16 22:43:19 <falchie> ShiftyAxel: and the 60px seems to decrease accidental triggers. Still happens occasionally when i change the keyboard size or change from qwerty to dvorak (using the swedish keyboard)
Sep 16 22:43:25 <Grabber5_0> that was strange.. plugged my TP into USB and the dashboard is blank
Sep 16 22:44:21 <ShiftyAxel> falchie: oh yeah, that… can probably be fixed if I expose some sort of 'extended keys shown' variable in the keyboard
Sep 16 22:45:23 <falchie> yeah, probably a good idea
Sep 16 22:46:40 <ShiftyAxel> falchie: other than that, would you say a successful test?
Sep 16 22:47:02 <falchie> yeah, other than that it seems to be working just fine
Sep 16 22:47:05 <ShiftyAxel> Grabber5_0: let me know when you're ready and I'll post today's test candidates
Sep 16 22:47:09 <ShiftyAxel> excellent, ⅔ :D
Sep 16 22:48:01 <Grabber5_0> 4.9.7?
Sep 16 22:48:55 <ShiftyAxel> yup, that's the one
Sep 16 22:49:08 <ShiftyAxel> ShiftyAxel: test candidates are largely bugfixes this time
Sep 16 22:49:09 <ShiftyAxel> [11:14pm] ShiftyAxel: and BT keyboard
Sep 16 22:49:10 <ShiftyAxel> [11:14pm] ShiftyAxel: I've improved the ctrl+tab behaviour to actually cycle through tabs now, and ctrl+arrows should work properly now
Sep 16 22:49:11 <ShiftyAxel> [11:15pm] ShiftyAxel: also Custom Carrier String/Device Name as Carriertext should apply from bootup now instead of the first time the status bar is updated
Sep 16 22:49:12 <ShiftyAxel> [11:16pm] ShiftyAxel: slide/fluid gestures now require 60px of movement to trigger when the keyboard is up too, to prevent accidental triggers
Sep 16 22:49:13 <ShiftyAxel> [11:17pm] ShiftyAxel: and stacks with more than 4 cards should work properly now, under 4.9.6 you couldn't tap on the far left ones
Sep 16 22:50:56 <ShiftyAxel> also the keyboard trackball if you haven't tried that out yet ;)
Sep 16 22:51:17 <Grabber5_0> Odd that I never noticed you couldn't tap the left-hand cards.  Just tried it now on 4.9.5
Sep 16 22:51:34 <Grabber5_0> been using the gestures more
Sep 16 22:51:51 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, I don't tend to stack cards much so I only noticed 'cause of the bug report
Sep 16 22:52:10 <ShiftyAxel> morning LarrySteeze, night LarrySteeze|Away :P
Sep 16 22:52:24 <Grabber> Man I swear my brain is melting
Sep 16 22:52:29 <ShiftyAxel> Grabber: how come?
Sep 16 22:52:53 <ShiftyAxel> also lame, half the delay with the power button hold seems to be some sort of lag in starting the animation :(
Sep 16 22:53:11 <Grabber> because I was thinking I had to transfer the file to my TP before I could install it :D
Sep 16 22:53:33 <Grabber> I downloaded the first two from my TP and installed via putty directly on the TP
Sep 16 22:53:56 <Grabber> Note, it's a bad idea to try it from wterm.. things kind of go south when it stops Luna :P
Sep 16 22:54:32 * Grabber tosses away cards like a mad man
Sep 16 22:55:48 <Grabber> nice..
Sep 16 22:57:13 <ShiftyAxel> Grabber: so how's it looking? :)
Sep 16 22:58:16 <Grabber> still restarting
Sep 16 22:58:25 <ShiftyAxel> fair enough
Sep 16 22:58:37 * ShiftyAxel continues prodding the press-n-hold timeout with a stick
Sep 16 22:58:52 <falchie> put six cards in a stack and try to side-swype with the stack minimized
Sep 16 23:00:35 <falchie> *swipe
Sep 16 23:00:44 * ShiftyAxel watches for a mushroom cloud over falchie's house
Sep 16 23:00:57 <falchie> :D
Sep 16 23:01:32 <ShiftyAxel> also I just committed the press-n-hold power fix to github, so we already have something to look forward to in the next release! :D
Sep 16 23:04:43 <Grabber> ok confirm 'can select leftmost tab in stack of 5'
Sep 16 23:04:54 <Grabber> is ctrl+Tab only for tabbed cards?
Sep 16 23:05:41 <Grabber> oh wow, ctrl+Tab is full of awesome! :D
Sep 16 23:05:47 <Grabber> it's the card-o-cycle
Sep 16 23:06:01 <ShiftyAxel> yup :)
Sep 16 23:06:32 <ShiftyAxel> I was hoping to get it doing that both ways with ctrl+up/down, but apparently that cool animation is a side-effect of how it's coded as opposed to intentional
Sep 16 23:06:58 <ShiftyAxel> so making it go in reverse was problematic
Sep 16 23:07:55 <Grabber> ok I unfortunately have to run for a while so I can't finish this right now
Sep 16 23:08:10 <ShiftyAxel> nuts, okay
Sep 16 23:08:31 <ShiftyAxel> if you finish w/success later, ping ka6sox and he can push it to the feeds
Sep 16 23:09:15 <Grabber> Sorry.. should have told you I didn't have much time, but wanted to help
Sep 16 23:09:33 <Grabber> I need to submit my tabbed card option request
Sep 16 23:09:51 <ShiftyAxel> dw, you don't make a habit of it like some, so it's all good ;)
Sep 16 23:09:56 <ShiftyAxel> option request eh?
Sep 16 23:10:21 <Grabber> do I detect a wave color-change?
Sep 16 23:10:25 <Grabber> drat being harassed
Sep 16 23:10:31 <Grabber> gotta go.. will join from my phone
Sep 16 23:10:34 <ShiftyAxel> wave colour hasn't changed
Sep 16 23:10:44 <Grabber> Hmm looked diff to me
Sep 16 23:10:53 <Grabber> yeah I'd like to just tap the mini-card I want active
Sep 16 23:11:05 <Grabber> not have to tap once to see it big and again to activate it
Sep 16 23:11:21 <Grabber> possibly a mini-card size setting
Sep 16 23:12:10 <EricBlade-TP> hi
Sep 16 23:12:26 <ShiftyAxel> morning EricBlade-TP
Sep 16 23:12:28 <falchie> ShiftyAxel: have you tried the six-cards-stacked-thing
Sep 16 23:12:40 <EricBlade-TP> sup
Sep 16 23:12:57 <ShiftyAxel> falchie: just trying it now
Sep 16 23:13:03 <EricBlade-TP> falchie: I ran into that bug Wednesday night
Sep 16 23:13:06 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade-TP: just testing 4.9.7, want in? :)
Sep 16 23:14:10 <EricBlade-TP> sorry as soon as I get home I gotta pack
Sep 16 23:14:37 <ShiftyAxel> dw
Sep 16 23:14:38 <EricBlade-TP> and at the speed you move at, by the time I'm free you'll have it on preware
Sep 16 23:14:48 <ShiftyAxel> haha, this is entirely possible :P
Sep 16 23:15:02 <ShiftyAxel> falchie: I see what you mean, the not being able to scroll off the stack thing?
Sep 16 23:15:20 <falchie> exactly
Sep 16 23:15:35 <falchie> only happens with >5 cards
Sep 16 23:15:54 <EricBlade-TP> you can switch stacks by bezel swiping
Sep 16 23:15:56 <EricBlade-TP> which is a weird effect
Sep 16 23:16:05 <EricBlade-TP> you also can't select the farthest left/right windows if there are 6+
Sep 16 23:16:11 <ShiftyAxel> I think I know the issue
Sep 16 23:16:17 <EricBlade-TP> unless you do tab view
Sep 16 23:16:28 <ShiftyAxel> remember how luna used to act with >5 cards?
Sep 16 23:16:40 <EricBlade-TP> no
Sep 16 23:16:41 <ShiftyAxel> it took like 2 swipes to move through a stack
Sep 16 23:16:44 <ShiftyAxel> ah :P
Sep 16 23:16:57 <ShiftyAxel> well it used to sort of scroll through the stack
Sep 16 23:17:11 <falchie> yeah, two or more
Sep 16 23:17:15 <ShiftyAxel> but I think that behaviour broke when I added spread gestures
Sep 16 23:17:20 <ShiftyAxel> not 100% sure
Sep 16 23:17:58 <ka6sox> Grabber, you done with your testing?
Sep 16 23:18:16 <EricBlade-TP> it would be nice if the spread only triggered on sideways move and the zoom on up/down ..
Sep 16 23:19:26 <EricBlade-TP> I just gouged my pre3:-( stupid rubberized case
Sep 16 23:21:51 <ShiftyAxel> I can probably read the pinch angle and do that
Sep 16 23:22:15 <ShiftyAxel> though I think it should trigger on both for single cards
Sep 16 23:26:58 <ShiftyAxel> hrm, looks like QPinchGesture doesn't expose the angle or touchpoints
Sep 16 23:31:27 <EricBlade> that seems.. silly
Sep 16 23:32:52 <EricBlade> hey ShiftyAxel i don't imagine you have or know anyone who has messed with the owos just type stuff to see about using it with ce ?
Sep 16 23:33:21 <ShiftyAxel> I guess they wanted to keep it simple, this'll need a new recognizer
Sep 16 23:34:58 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: not that I know of
Sep 16 23:35:12 <ShiftyAxel> the build environments are a bit lacking in terms of compiling individual bits
Sep 16 23:39:50 <EricBlade> hmm. you get rotation angle and a rather nebulous scale
Sep 16 23:41:25 <ShiftyAxel> the rotation angle is 'how much have you rotated your fingers' as opposed to an absolute 'your fingers are at n degrees'
Sep 16 23:42:16 <EricBlade> right
Sep 16 23:42:46 <ShiftyAxel> time for me to head to bed, early start tomorrow...
Sep 16 23:43:44 <ShiftyAxel> PSA: if anyone wants to test 4.9.7, it's in the woce/LunaSysMgr-binaries repo on github. we're at ⅔ now so report (if successful) to ka6sox and he can push it to the feeds
Sep 16 23:43:46 <ShiftyAxel> nn all
Sep 16 23:44:11 <EricBlade> hmm. i don't see how center point would be useful
Sep 17 01:34:44 <Grabber5_0> oops
Sep 17 01:34:53 <Grabber5_0> Sorry, accidentally closed irc.
Sep 17 01:35:25 <Grabber5_0> I was trying to see if you could throw away the cards in tabbed card mode
Sep 17 01:35:52 <Grabber5_0> is it known you can throw away the side cards in tabbed mode?
Sep 17 01:37:04 <Grabber5_0> I tried it out, and accidentally threw away the main wIRC card :D
Sep 17 01:41:54 <Grabber5_0> at least, that's what I think I did. I thought I found a bug and that it closed them all or mehow crashed the app, but throwing away a browser card in a stack of those didn't do the same thing.
Sep 17 01:44:53 <Grabber5_0> I've confirmed fixed all that I knew about (not being able to select left side cards in a stack of 5 or more, 60px buffer for slide/fluid gestures, ctrl+tab for cycling through tabbed cards on BT keyboard)
Sep 17 01:50:16 <Grabber5_0> didn't know about the bug with the carrier text on boot
Sep 17 01:53:31 <Grabber5_0> I guess I should have pinged ka6sox before that report
Sep 17 01:54:43 <Grabber5_0> I also confirmed the remaining bug with the stacks of over 5 cards where you can't swipe left or right to change stacks
Sep 17 02:00:52 <ka6sox> that one is tougher
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