**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 15 03:00:02 2012 Oct 15 07:38:47 Hi Oct 15 07:47:40 morning Tofe Oct 15 08:31:50 luna-sysmgr in webos-ports failed to build # fatal: reference is not a tree: 0671dd7e62b5104c4e427c47be68b5a8af0fd377 Oct 15 08:32:02 do I miss anything? Oct 15 08:32:37 got build log? Oct 15 08:32:50 failed after do_unpack Oct 15 08:32:55 can't fetch Oct 15 08:32:58 hmmm Oct 15 08:33:01 penk: you have to update Oct 15 08:33:02 what is it fetching? Oct 15 08:33:04 ah Oct 15 08:33:20 we're rebuiding the webOS-ports/master branch from time to time Oct 15 08:33:26 so SRCREV's are changing Oct 15 08:33:34 make update should fix this Oct 15 08:33:46 cool thx Oct 15 08:34:02 we also have removed qt4-webos from sstate as it was breaking anyways Oct 15 08:34:21 Current branch webOS-ports/master is up to date. Oct 15 08:34:25 penk: always: whenever you discover a build failure make sure you have latest changes in your locla tree Oct 15 08:34:43 morphis: sure thing Oct 15 08:34:52 penk, try again and pastebin the failure if you see it. Oct 15 08:35:54 hm, seems to be my fault Oct 15 08:36:39 after -c clean and -c fetch # http://pastebin.com/uvc581ej Oct 15 08:37:13 penk: please try again once more Oct 15 08:37:20 repushed the branch Oct 15 08:37:46 make update Oct 15 08:39:31 morphis: cool, building Oct 15 08:39:55 thx Oct 15 08:41:03 we love good reports like that...helps fix things quickly Oct 15 08:47:38 Tofe, how is your build coming? Oct 15 08:52:01 * ka6sox-away bbt Oct 15 08:56:13 ka6sox-away: I'm trying to compile the kernel with gcc-4.4 instead of 4.5, which seems to cause problems on my kernel Oct 15 08:56:33 but I'm doing it outside of OE, just for a small kernel test Oct 15 08:57:02 does OE download its own version of gcc ? Oct 15 09:01:14 Tofe: afaik its a linaro version of gcc atm Oct 15 09:01:30 Tofe: what are your kernel compilation problems? Oct 15 10:11:43 morning Oct 15 10:12:01 morphis: morning Oct 15 10:12:10 warzon: morning Oct 15 10:12:14 m0rn Oct 15 10:12:59 morphis: does your kernel touchscreen driver on GNexus working only in single touch mode? Oct 15 10:18:37 warzon: the kernel driver supports both evdev and MT Oct 15 10:19:00 but we're using it right now only in single touch mode Oct 15 10:22:48 nyx touchpanel modules need to be rewritten to support multi touch. Oct 15 10:28:20 warzon: yes, but it's not urgent Oct 15 10:29:27 warzon: if someone wants to step up to implement support for the MT protocol that would be really fine Oct 15 10:29:37 there is a lot of code out there that can be used as reference Oct 15 10:31:02 warzon: is the nyx touchpanel module working for you? Oct 15 10:32:05 morphis: no, it's not. my kerner driver working only in MT protocol. Oct 15 10:32:11 kernel* Oct 15 10:32:23 was the case of our kernel as well Oct 15 10:32:37 we modified it to work in single touch mode as well Oct 15 10:32:57 warzon: https://github.com/shr-distribution/linux/commit/aec2f3dea0df2985b824b165543437a98d202af0 Oct 15 10:33:27 should give you the idea what you have to adjust Oct 15 10:33:38 should be rather simple Oct 15 10:35:15 i'm trying to add MT support in nyx module. Oct 15 10:35:29 thank you for link Oct 15 10:36:04 ok Oct 15 10:36:22 warzon: I think you should write a new one instead of just modifying the current one Oct 15 10:37:05 in our version of nyx-modules we already moved the code into a evdev subdirectory (https://github.com/webOS-ports/nyx-modules/tree/webOS-ports/master/src/rockhopper/touchpanel) Oct 15 10:37:19 you should create a mtdev one and put the MT protocol implementation into this Oct 15 10:37:50 of course Oct 15 10:42:24 warzon: have to leave now Oct 15 10:42:25 bye Oct 15 11:21:46 morning Oct 15 11:25:49 anyone is having issues while building luna-sysmgr? Oct 15 11:32:01 guanguido: what kind of issues do you have? Oct 15 11:33:17 make: error 1 Oct 15 11:33:23 no stacktrace provided Oct 15 11:33:38 i've built webos-image Oct 15 11:33:57 now i'm retrying with webos-dev-image instead Oct 15 12:45:39 is it possible to build webos-image on a encrypted file system? Oct 15 12:45:53 i got this error: Failed to create a file with a long name in TMPDIR. Please use a filesystem that does not unreasonably limit filename length. Oct 15 12:46:59 I use ubuntu 12.04 and ext4 as filesystem (encrypted) Oct 15 13:07:19 zefanja only /home is encrypted? Oct 15 13:12:59 gianguido yes Oct 15 13:14:34 zefanja you can always compile in /usr/src Oct 15 13:14:49 but before, chown it with your username Oct 15 13:15:18 I know, but there is not enough space =) Oct 15 13:16:04 :-/ compile in an usb ext4 HDD? lol Oct 15 13:18:05 zefanja: surely if there's enough space to compile in /home/foo, there's enough space to compile in /usr/src? Oct 15 13:18:21 providing you delete the compilation stuff from /home/foo/? Oct 15 13:19:06 /usr/src is on a smaller partition than my /home dir Oct 15 13:23:15 aha Oct 15 13:27:05 I will try it on another pc, there's no hurry Oct 15 13:29:03 "Preparing runqueue" oh, cmon! Oct 15 17:11:24 heyho Oct 15 17:13:13 hey morphis Oct 15 17:14:40 hi, morning Oct 15 17:18:05 Hi ! Oct 15 17:18:33 wtf, another luna-sysmgr compile error! Oct 15 17:19:11 I just booted with my brand-new compiled kernel, and... I've got the kernel messages :) Oct 15 17:19:26 can anyone help me? http://pastebin.com/TixRwyNc Oct 15 17:19:42 So, now my status is the same as for the Transformer: I get a login. Oct 15 17:20:41 gianguido: weird. Are your git clones up to date ? Oct 15 17:21:19 i'm compiling for the third time in two days, deleting and rebuilding all Oct 15 17:21:28 so, they must be updated Oct 15 17:22:44 well, I quite don't know then. My git clones are a bit old now, but they compile fine so I don't touch them for the moment Oct 15 17:23:45 :-/ do i miss some dependencies? Oct 15 17:27:06 i'm rebuilding webkit-webos now, let's see if the build will continue Oct 15 17:47:21 nothing. if someone knows how to help me, ping! Oct 15 18:01:50 I think I have two getty on the same tty ... ouch. Oct 15 18:03:32 i can't get what qtwebkit wants from me Oct 15 18:09:31 I'm logged in :) Oct 15 18:10:05 gianguido, pastebin last 50lines of buildlog please? Oct 15 18:10:16 ka6sox: a moment Oct 15 18:10:40 oh well ka6sox, i've closed the shell but i've another paste Oct 15 18:10:53 ka6sox: http://pastebin.com/TixRwyNc Oct 15 18:12:39 rerun again please Oct 15 18:12:44 and pastebin more. Oct 15 18:13:04 i'm rebuilding all right now Oct 15 18:13:23 i'm doing all the procedure from the beginning, in another folder so git files won't hurt me Oct 15 18:13:53 if this error will show himself again, i'll post the pastebin there Oct 15 18:15:30 what would be the main UI process name, again ? It looks like Luna is started and quiet, but I don't see anything trying to start Oct 15 18:16:51 ah, com.palm.systemmanager is not running, it doesn't seem good. Oct 15 18:18:05 ah, LunaSysMgr got killed. Ok, debug time now Oct 15 18:20:33 would someone have a var/log/message of a successful startup (for example on the GNex) ? Oct 15 18:21:04 Tofe: maybe ShiftyAxel|Away Oct 15 18:30:00 Tofe, let me ask... Oct 15 18:30:43 as you wish Oct 15 18:43:21 oh, I think I got the problem. Looks like a link mismatch, for some reason. Oct 15 18:46:54 (it may well be my fault, I replaced the libEGL.so library in the rootfs by mine... hoping for some miracle...) Oct 15 18:47:44 < there are prebuilt images? o.O Oct 15 18:49:46 no Oct 15 18:49:52 well, problem is, my prebuilt libEGL was built on an Ubuntu 11.04 by NVidia, with a different libc.so version, and so on... it's quite a mess. Oct 15 18:50:11 ka6sox: http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/tuna/ Oct 15 18:50:57 gianguido 1 - ka6sox 0 :) Oct 15 18:51:11 Tofe: lol Oct 15 18:51:46 Anyway, I can't (and don't want either) use a Neon-enabled arm image. Oct 15 18:51:55 i'm testing right now on my gnex (sort of) Oct 15 18:52:40 this is embrassing Oct 15 18:52:57 after system and boot flash Oct 15 18:53:10 the nexus simply reboot itself with no endig Oct 15 18:53:14 *ending Oct 15 18:53:24 whoa... Oct 15 18:53:41 * ka6sox -1 Oct 15 18:53:57 ka6sox 1 - gianguido 1 Oct 15 18:54:33 I guess that got done already :D Oct 15 18:55:29 ka6sox: what? Oct 15 18:57:00 I didn't hear back that Jenkins was doing that yet. Oct 15 18:58:12 so this images could work Oct 15 18:58:50 *these Oct 15 18:59:01 for very *small* values of work. Oct 15 18:59:26 i can't make them working :( Oct 15 19:00:07 wtf, nandroid Oct 15 19:00:14 i've forgot to make one. Oct 15 19:01:05 looks like the libEGL mess isn't _my_ mess, after all Oct 15 19:01:43 gianguido, the issue is that they still very alpha, work slow, eventually grind to a halt... Oct 15 19:01:51 maybe I should recompile my machine without the "egl" feature, for a try Oct 15 19:02:42 i know ka6sox, i'll wait Oct 15 19:05:35 ka6sox: libhybris is a wrapper for the libEGL.so and so on, isn't it ? Oct 15 19:06:14 Tofe, it wrappers the Android libs Oct 15 19:06:24 it remembers me the wrapper that was done for the N900 when trying to execute as-is the WebOS games :) Oct 15 19:06:39 Tofe, yes Oct 15 19:07:13 is it specialized in Android, or would it work for any libEGL ? Oct 15 19:07:33 I'll check google, anyway Oct 15 19:07:55 I think it is designed for Android specifically....+ modded libc too iirc Oct 15 19:08:58 I see... mmmh... It's maybe my only choice, after all. Oct 15 19:09:54 Tofe, I think for now it is... Oct 15 19:10:29 Well, as I had the GL libraries for Ubuntu 11.04 armel, I was hoping that, in some way, I could make it fit Oct 15 19:11:55 But I also have Android on the tablet, so the same hack can be achieved as on the nexus (and it seems to work on the GNex) Oct 15 19:15:32 dinner time, bye chan Oct 15 19:16:59 Ok. Next steps for me are: Oct 15 19:16:59 1. put in place my own machine in my git fork, achieve the same level of functionality as today (i.e. login prompt) Oct 15 19:16:59 2. find a way to grab the libEGL libs from my android system, and put them in an "android-binaries" repo like for the GNex Oct 15 19:16:59 3. include libhybris in the machine build, a bit like for tuna Oct 15 19:18:55 Also I have a pb: my kernel only cross-compiles fine is it is gcc 4.4 that is used. I quite don't know how to handle that with bitbake... Oct 15 19:19:10 s/is/if/ Oct 15 19:19:10 Tofe meant: Also I have a pb: my kernel only cross-compiles fine if it is gcc 4.4 that is used. I quite don't know how to handle that with bitbake... Oct 15 19:21:20 Tofe, pb_ is referring to same target as you are working with ? Oct 15 19:22:07 yes Oct 15 19:22:53 as it is the kernel, there is almost no toolchain, so I did it by hand today Oct 15 19:23:51 The perfect way would be to have gcc 4.4 used only for the kernel Oct 15 19:23:52 Tofe, the kernel toolchain is defined in the BSP for the device...so that makes sense. Oct 15 19:25:10 there is a specific kernel toolchain ? Oct 15 19:25:42 let me look @ something...brb Oct 15 19:28:39 look @ linux.inc in meta-samsung. Oct 15 19:28:46 specific for tuna devicde Oct 15 19:29:17 is WoceBot an infobot? Oct 15 19:29:26 dunno Oct 15 19:29:39 hmm.. ok. who set it up? Oct 15 19:29:56 scoutcamper Oct 15 19:29:59 ok Oct 15 19:32:03 well, I saw there is a PREFERRED_GCC_VERSION, but I quite don't know what to put in there Oct 15 19:33:19 I'll look closer in linux.inc, maybe there is a kernel specific thing. Oct 15 19:34:32 "KERNEL_CC" and "KERNEL_LD" seem to be the thing. Oct 15 19:34:46 yes Oct 15 19:34:49 thats the obne Oct 15 19:35:47 s/obne/one/ Oct 15 19:35:47 ka6sox meant: thats the one Oct 15 19:37:24 But it doesn't seem to retrieve the corresponding gcc automagically Oct 15 19:37:43 (I'm getting used to bb doing all the work for me :) ) Oct 15 19:38:51 oh, well, maybe it does. I'll just try and hope :) Oct 15 19:42:14 morning Oct 15 19:42:28 morning gianguido Oct 15 19:43:03 morning, giang;-) Oct 15 19:43:50 :) Oct 15 19:44:19 ka6sox: for your information, that was not exactly the one; the real one was KERNEL_CCSUFFIX = "-4.4", in my case. Oct 15 19:44:37 I love OE and bitbake :) :) Oct 15 19:47:18 Tofe, sorry, dealing with 4 things at one time. Oct 15 19:49:28 ka6sox: my PC also has 4 cores. Great thing. Oct 15 19:50:09 indeed Oct 15 19:50:42 PatrickC, it is customary to not just plop bots on a channel without asking for permission of the channel owner. Oct 15 19:51:24 ka6sox: wasn't a bot Oct 15 19:51:29 was registering nicks, sorry Oct 15 19:51:43 kk Oct 15 19:51:51 going to be running a bot on another channel i help run, so was registering the nicks to give the bot a cloak Oct 15 19:51:59 ok Oct 15 19:53:23 someone is following this xda thread? Oct 15 19:53:32 (can i post the link? lol) Oct 15 19:53:32 what XDA thread? Oct 15 19:54:00 Oh Gawd... Oct 15 19:54:04 ? Oct 15 19:54:11 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1921544&page=3 Oct 15 19:54:55 * PatrickC doesn't have a gnex Oct 15 19:57:25 gianguido, gee..they could come here and ask... Oct 15 19:57:47 lololol, that XDA thread is an amusing read Oct 15 19:59:03 ShiftyAxel: yes, I agree. Oct 15 19:59:18 ka6sox: never talked about this chan in that topic lol Oct 15 20:00:05 xda threads mostly are amusing... Oct 15 20:00:26 well, soon they'll find out how to disassemble the binaries inside the ext4 rootfs... Oct 15 20:00:58 Tofe, this is always amusing Oct 15 20:01:00 was one of the most important sources of information during my windows mobile times... you need some training to extract even remotly reliable information from that board. :) Oct 15 20:01:30 Garfonso, this is normal... Oct 15 20:02:59 xda is worse than normal, if you ask me... or webosnation is better than normal. ;) Oct 15 20:04:42 I imagine some of them are flashing .ext4s right now Oct 15 20:04:47 * ShiftyAxel snickers quietly Oct 15 20:05:52 well, this is embarrassing :| Oct 15 20:06:38 gianguido, why? Oct 15 20:07:27 i've tried to flash ext4 directly lol Oct 15 20:09:31 gianguido, you didn't have to tell us... Oct 15 20:10:08 is there a good reason why ext4 does not work? Oct 15 20:15:13 probably not included in /etc/filesystems Oct 15 20:15:52 it is, and the driver is in the kernel too Oct 15 20:16:03 that was my next question. Oct 15 20:16:18 ext4 is in /etc/filesystems and /proc/filesystems Oct 15 20:16:29 is it supported in the initramfs? Oct 15 20:16:43 that I do not know :-\ Oct 15 20:16:43 or initrd. Oct 15 20:30:39 it's late, bye chan Oct 15 20:45:22 any prebuilt VirtualBox VM for x86? Oct 15 20:47:33 bye! Oct 15 21:07:51 qureshi Oct 15 21:07:57 qureshi: for what? Oct 15 21:08:12 open webos? you can try the boot cd with virtual box. Oct 15 21:08:42 http://penkia.blogspot.com.br/2012/10/unofficial-open-webos-livecdusb.html Oct 15 21:08:46 live cd that is Oct 15 21:37:18 thanks Oct 15 22:34:27 anyone here familiar with what the warning "QA Issue: package [packagename] contains bad RPATH" refers to? Oct 15 22:35:03 i see all sorts of references to it being fixed in various packages, but they don't seem to have done anything to the packages themselves Oct 15 22:35:21 https://twitter.com/webosinternals/status/257972647139348481 Oct 15 22:38:50 * EricBlade applauds Oct 15 22:45:13 ka6sox-away, what is that??? Oct 15 22:45:58 oooh, windows8 hardware? Oct 15 22:47:13 oh, it's older - windows7 Oct 15 22:47:25 its a Win7 device Oct 15 22:47:33 however I have run W8 on it. Oct 15 22:47:40 its i5-SandyBridge Oct 15 22:47:59 jesus christ on a stick my phone just 'sploded in the middle of a study session Oct 15 22:48:03 for a sec I thought it was one of the ARM_based win8 devices Oct 15 22:48:19 folks Oct 15 22:48:25 halfhalo, like with fire? Oct 15 22:49:26 yes Oct 15 22:49:33 FIRE! FIRE! Oct 15 22:49:42 halfhalo, oh no :-\ Oct 15 22:50:29 ka6sox-away, was that in Beavis and Butthead voice? Oct 15 22:51:03 and with that, I'm going poof again for now. More differential equations to study. Oct 15 22:51:18 halfhalo, bask in it... Oct 15 22:51:21 linuxjacques, yup Oct 15 22:53:03 once I start an app like clock, how do I cardify it? Oct 15 22:55:26 linuxjacques: on what? Oct 15 22:55:52 we need the gesture area as stock... :D Oct 15 22:56:05 EricBlade, on gnex Oct 15 22:57:22 linuxjacques: if swiping upwards doesn't work well.. SOL. :) Oct 15 22:57:42 :-( Oct 15 22:58:21 backswipe should work. Oct 15 22:58:25 on the bottom Oct 15 22:58:33 I thought I tried that Oct 15 22:58:49 * bhuey thinks Oct 15 22:59:11 I built this image on Oct 11 BTW Oct 15 22:59:38 oh, too old Oct 15 22:59:43 you need to rebuild... Oct 15 22:59:47 pre-alpha you know :D Oct 15 23:00:00 ka6sox-away, yeah, rebuilding right now (well downloading sstate very slowly) Oct 15 23:00:31 > 1GB of sstate-webkit-webos-* is painful Oct 15 23:01:44 is that from a make update? Oct 15 23:02:32 I started from scratch with only a shared downloads dir Oct 15 23:02:51 some people have been having issues and I wanted to see if I could reproduce Oct 15 23:05:49 thanks Oct 15 23:06:55 what's the proper way to shot down a gnex running webos? Oct 15 23:07:02 s/shot/shut/ Oct 15 23:07:02 linuxjacques meant: what's the proper way to shut down a gnex running webos? Oct 15 23:07:20 ssh in and shut it down... Oct 15 23:07:26 over rndis. Oct 15 23:07:43 ok thanks, that was one guess Oct 15 23:08:24 or battery pull...but no guarantees that we leave the rootfs RO.... Oct 15 23:08:26 I just want to avoid a battery pull Oct 15 23:08:40 because getting the back on is a serial PITA Oct 15 23:08:45 serious Oct 15 23:09:00 agreed. Oct 15 23:09:34 hmm, I tried reboot and it closed my ssh but it's not rebooting Oct 15 23:09:44 no shutdown then restart Oct 15 23:10:32 now I can't ssh back in Oct 15 23:10:55 but the GUI is still running, I tried shutdown from the menu but it didn't seem to do anything Oct 15 23:11:21 wow...it didn't go down...thats wierd... Oct 15 23:11:29 you know what this means... Oct 15 23:11:47 welcome to Alpha Testing! Oct 15 23:12:14 heh Oct 15 23:14:01 sigh. stupid back design. Oct 15 23:14:13 I leave mine off currently Oct 15 23:14:44 i don't blame you Oct 15 23:21:16 I think I am developing a technique for replacing the gnex back Oct 15 23:21:23 only took me two tries this time Oct 15 23:22:17 mine sits on a Trivet...that way if HCF is executed it wont' scar the tabletop. Oct 15 23:22:45 HCF? Oct 15 23:23:05 the instruction "halt, catch fire" Oct 15 23:23:29 or halt and catch fire Oct 15 23:23:48 lol Oct 15 23:24:04 like halfhalo's? Oct 15 23:24:08 yes Oct 15 23:24:16 I don't know why they put that instruction into the proc Oct 15 23:24:25 I probably would have left it out Oct 15 23:25:23 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halt_and_Catch_Fire Oct 15 23:26:27 we I have some Core Memory from our PDP8/e that we smoked the wires. Oct 15 23:27:15 "the CPU does not usually catch fire" - I guess halfhalo was just unlucky Oct 15 23:27:22 yup Oct 15 23:27:39 I can tell you that i5 gets hot when building OE. Oct 15 23:28:35 its the only truely self-hosting build for embedded I've been sucessful at. Oct 15 23:29:13 i believe that halt/reboot/shutdown commands in open webos are currently not working Oct 15 23:29:35 halt seems to halt the emulators, but i don't think it ever actually completes Oct 15 23:31:01 we need an LS2<>dbus translator... Oct 15 23:31:34 i swear to god. we need cdma network drivers for the vzw gnex. i'm so sick of android being such a piece of shit. Oct 15 23:32:05 * HaDAk` rips the battery out of his phone Oct 15 23:32:10 HaDAk`, lets not speak ill of the barely limping.... Oct 15 23:33:17 pull requests with FOSS CDMA drivers will be accepted with open arms :) Oct 15 23:33:43 Hi Roy__ Oct 15 23:33:48 ShiftyAxel, lol Oct 15 23:33:56 Howdy. Oct 15 23:34:24 I know what we need to give every FOSS developer who does a video.... Oct 15 23:34:29 A Tripod. Oct 15 23:35:52 * brandongoeszoom agrees Oct 15 23:35:53 my build is really flying along now Oct 15 23:36:16 it's more like a "compose" because I don't think it's actually compiling much Oct 15 23:36:35 SSD FTW Oct 15 23:37:00 linuxjacques, the device has 128GB of SSD and iirc 1GB of RAM...it self-builds in about 2.5-3hrs Oct 15 23:38:42 +1 on the tripod! Oct 15 23:39:42 don't know nuthin' about what you guys are doing, but I love lookin! Oct 15 23:40:08 Keep up the great work! Oct 15 23:40:30 davidtm0, how did you find us? Oct 15 23:40:46 webOS nation forums Oct 15 23:41:01 kk Oct 15 23:41:18 had a Pre since 6/6/09 on Sprint' running a FrankenPre2 now Oct 15 23:41:40 kewl Oct 15 23:41:54 oh, and lunace 4.9.5 on my TP Oct 15 23:43:43 davidtm0, we are talking about OpenWebOS on various devices...like Google Nexus phone and Samsung Series 7 Tablets Oct 15 23:44:35 yeah, I know Oct 15 23:45:23 ok...sorry. Oct 15 23:45:31 hopin' your frustration w/ not using gnex propels you to create those CDMA drivers!! Oct 15 23:45:39 * ka6sox-away shuffles off into his corner :D Oct 15 23:45:43 :-) Oct 15 23:46:29 no, no . . . I didn't mean to sound pissed Oct 15 23:49:13 davidtm0: so do tell, how does one create CDMA drivers? Oct 15 23:50:28 LOL. like I would know! I enjoy using devices, but only get under the hood with beta stuff AFTER it looks OK Oct 15 23:50:36 I would assume with pixie dust, but I could be mistaken. Oct 15 23:51:26 maybe Softbank knows?! Oct 15 23:51:31 pixie dust and patents Oct 15 23:51:55 AND A UNICORN Oct 15 23:51:58 MADE OF DIAMONDS Oct 15 23:52:46 too many pixi's were sacrificed for this... Oct 15 23:53:14 * rrix grinds up obsolete palm phones and sprinkles it on ka6sox-away Oct 15 23:54:34 ka6sox-away: my pre3 and touchpad do not have tripod mounts :( Oct 15 23:55:41 for SCaLE I tried to use a Pixi-Stick for a webcam Oct 16 00:02:55 ka6sox-away: Silly rabbit, you can't use candy to take pictures. Oct 16 00:03:16 indeed Oct 16 00:04:33 oh that is sweet; if you ctrl-C bb, it finishes the running tasks - exactly the behavior I wanted Oct 16 00:05:12 if you do it 2X it crashes it ... Oct 16 00:05:34 what sort of graphics are in the samsung 7 tab thing? is it intel integrated? Oct 16 00:05:54 yes Oct 16 00:06:30 ka6sox-away, yep I figured more ctrl-C would exit it Oct 16 00:08:50 RagingMind, currently OW doesnt' play nice with GL Oct 16 00:08:58 BIAW Oct 16 00:09:33 s/GL/GL(ES)/ Oct 16 00:09:34 ka6sox-away meant: RagingMind, currently OW doesnt' play nice with GL(ES) Oct 16 00:16:46 * bhuey can't wait until folks get hardware graphics acceleration going Oct 16 00:24:15 bedtime for me, nn all Oct 16 01:06:47 does anyone know if Gnex supports OTG? Oct 16 01:29:26 it does Oct 16 01:30:48 HaDAk` thanks Oct 16 01:47:04 ka6sox-away, I'm pretty sure it does, from my google wanderings Oct 16 02:30:13 Howdy. Quick question: I was messing around with @penk's ISO of Open webOS and noticed that it recognizes the code for Dev Mode, but there's no ipk on the system. Is that just in his ISO or was it just not open sourced with 1.0? Oct 16 02:30:45 i have not tried Oct 16 02:30:49 or looked Oct 16 02:31:42 that is probably a "feature" of OW Oct 16 02:34:27 Interesting. Thanks Oct 16 02:34:56 yw Oct 16 02:35:14 I'm a novice, so forgive me when I ask, is there a way to install ipks on the VM? Oct 16 02:35:28 hey brandongoeszoom Oct 16 02:35:41 Hey PatrickC Oct 16 02:54:23 OK my build failed on the same error as everyone else is getting; the git "fatal: reference is not a tree: 0671dd7e62b5104c4e427c47be68b5a8af0fd377" in luna-sysmgr Oct 16 02:56:37 my googling says this has something to do with git submodules if that's any help Oct 16 02:56:56 git-submodules eh... Oct 16 02:56:56 figure Oct 16 02:57:00 +s Oct 16 02:57:42 jacques, would you mind putting that in issues.webos-ports.org and I will ask morphis and JaMa to take a look? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 16 03:00:01 2012