**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 04 03:00:02 2012
Nov 04 03:48:41 <ShiftyAxel> right, bedtime for me
Nov 04 03:48:51 <ShiftyAxel> productive work today, wahey
Nov 04 10:59:14 <morphis> heyho
Nov 04 10:59:33 <Stskeeps> morn
Nov 04 13:03:38 <morphis> ShiftyAxel|Away: assigned you http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/281
Nov 04 13:28:36 <ShiftyAxel> morning all
Nov 04 13:28:53 <ShiftyAxel> morphis: interesting bug you found there
Nov 04 13:29:00 <morphis> :)
Nov 04 13:29:07 <ShiftyAxel> do you just have to toggle wifi on/off repeatedly to make it happen?
Nov 04 13:29:12 <morphis> yes
Nov 04 13:29:26 <morphis> seems like a variable is incresead everytime but never reseted to its default vlaue
Nov 04 13:29:55 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, most of the the scaling code is height = height * scale
Nov 04 13:30:13 <morphis> :)
Nov 04 13:30:14 <ShiftyAxel> I guess I must have put it somewhere that gets called multiple times
Nov 04 13:30:19 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: but webapp scaling is great
Nov 04 13:30:28 <ShiftyAxel> hurrah :D
Nov 04 13:30:39 <morphis> just sad that most applications needs adjustments to fit well with the scaling
Nov 04 13:30:45 <ShiftyAxel> latest image has a tweaked just type too
Nov 04 13:30:50 <morphis> yeah
Nov 04 13:31:12 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, it's a pity that HP coded those apps for the TP and TP alone in mind... but that can be fixed
Nov 04 13:31:23 <morphis> yes
Nov 04 13:32:36 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: seems like this is maybe something for people who wants to help us
Nov 04 13:44:23 <ShiftyAxel> indeed, there do seem to be a few app developers about
Nov 04 13:44:49 <ShiftyAxel> I just updated a couple of bugs btw- the browser one had been solved for ages but in the wrong commit, fixed now
Nov 04 13:45:18 <morphis> ah ok
Nov 04 13:45:46 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: we need to take care that we submit all those fixes to upstream
Nov 04 13:45:54 <ShiftyAxel> yes indeed, I was just thinking that
Nov 04 13:46:09 <ShiftyAxel> the fix for enabling flick gestures should be fine to upstream right now
Nov 04 13:47:53 <morphis> ok
Nov 04 13:48:07 <morphis> and for example the isis-browser patch can go upstream as well
Nov 04 13:48:25 <morphis> we just have to take care that we don't forget to submit upstream
Nov 04 13:48:39 <ShiftyAxel> I'm guessing the icon resizing can't for the meantime, since it kinda depends on my ui scaling work?
Nov 04 13:48:50 <morphis> yes
Nov 04 13:48:59 <morphis> your ui-scaling should go first
Nov 04 13:49:13 <morphis> it's then to discuss how much sense it makes for HP to accept the gesture area
Nov 04 13:50:08 <ShiftyAxel> righto
Nov 04 13:50:24 <ShiftyAxel> btw, how are we keeping the master branch updated for our luna-sysmgr?
Nov 04 13:50:41 <ShiftyAxel> I want to rebase, but need to make sure it's up-to-date
Nov 04 13:53:08 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: you can add another remote to the git repository
Nov 04 13:53:22 <morphis> then rebase on upstream/master for example
Nov 04 13:55:00 <ShiftyAxel> aha, excellent
Nov 04 13:55:14 <ShiftyAxel> btw, I found another discrepancy in morphis/tuna-support that i'm just fixing
Nov 04 13:55:38 <ShiftyAxel> the launcher layout platform conf is named wrong, which is probably why is isn't making it into the image
Nov 04 13:56:08 <morphis> ah ok
Nov 04 13:56:11 <morphis> sorry for that
Nov 04 13:59:00 <ShiftyAxel> no worries :)
Nov 04 14:12:45 <ShiftyAxel> okay, browser height fix and flick gesture fix have both been sent upstream
Nov 04 14:25:30 <morphis> great
Nov 04 14:32:02 <Tofe> hi
Nov 04 14:41:20 <ShiftyAxel> morning Tofe
Nov 04 14:41:41 <Tofe> I'm back in kernel compilation business :)
Nov 04 14:44:22 <Tofe> I have either a working non-android kernel which shows me bootup messages and so on, or a perhaps-working android kernel which doesn't show anything at bootup and doesn't boot OWO.
Nov 04 14:45:31 <ShiftyAxel> the endless joy of system work :D
Nov 04 14:45:41 <ShiftyAxel> morphis: are merge commits valid for SRCREV?
Nov 04 14:46:16 <ShiftyAxel> I just got reference is not a tree for the latest commit to luna-sysmgr/webOS-ports-master
Nov 04 14:49:23 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: they should
Nov 04 14:49:34 <ShiftyAxel> hm
Nov 04 14:49:47 <morphis> but make sure they are in the webOS-ports/master branch
Nov 04 14:49:54 <ShiftyAxel> they definately are
Nov 04 14:50:17 <ShiftyAxel> trying again now with the commit created by the merge
Nov 04 14:55:56 <morphis> ok
Nov 04 14:57:09 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: btw. the notifications are still buggy
Nov 04 14:57:26 <morphis> gesturearea or keyboard are still overlapping them
Nov 04 14:57:44 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: should I create a bug report for this?
Nov 04 14:57:53 <ShiftyAxel> morphis: it's the keyboard, where are you experiencing it?
Nov 04 14:58:00 <ShiftyAxel> over an actual notification?
Nov 04 14:58:07 <ShiftyAxel> because they've been crashing for me thus far...
Nov 04 15:00:22 <morphis> when you use a new rootfs you get the dismuss-cards notification
Nov 04 15:00:39 <morphis> or when pressing the power key for some seconds will bring up the airplaine-shutdown-menu
Nov 04 15:08:16 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: ah and the just type area on the main screen is not correct, it has more the form of a ellipse than a rectangle with rounded corners
Nov 04 15:09:15 <ShiftyAxel> ah yes, those
Nov 04 15:09:41 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, i need to set the offset to the current dash height, feel free to open a bug
Nov 04 15:09:55 <ShiftyAxel> and i'm still rasslin' with the just type bar, 3-slice pixmaps are nasty
Nov 04 15:11:22 <Tofe> do you think that switching between a standard kernel 2.6.38 to an android-flovoured kernel 2.6.39 would imply recompiling eglibc ?
Nov 04 15:11:56 <Tofe> (you = anyone having an opinion on this subject...)
Nov 04 15:12:28 <morphis> Tofe: no
Nov 04 15:13:00 <Tofe> that's what I though, too. Ok, then, I need to continue my work on that kernel.
Nov 04 15:13:26 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: ok, will open a bug report for both
Nov 04 15:15:58 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: done
Nov 04 15:16:07 <ShiftyAxel> morphis: ty
Nov 04 15:16:26 <ShiftyAxel> any chance you could take a quick look at webOS-ports/master for luna to see if you can spot anything wrong?
Nov 04 15:16:54 <ShiftyAxel> jenkins is still failing, and I can't figure out why it thinks the commit is invalud
Nov 04 15:16:57 <ShiftyAxel> *invalid
Nov 04 15:25:45 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: yes, let me take a look
Nov 04 15:26:09 <ShiftyAxel> ty
Nov 04 15:26:21 <ShiftyAxel> though jenkins appears to be compiling now... hm...
Nov 04 15:29:10 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: 0: luna-sysmgr-2.0.4-1.00-r11+wop+gitr18+047b0d6d9e5c4e89311f0ad7f180063bf11e6626 do_compile (pid 30050)
Nov 04 15:29:18 <morphis> seem to work here too
Nov 04 15:31:57 <morphis> ah and I was able to setup my email profile on the device
Nov 04 15:32:09 <morphis> it's now happily fetching my mails
Nov 04 15:32:17 <morphis> and showing notifications on new received ones
Nov 04 15:34:39 <ShiftyAxel> !?
Nov 04 15:34:50 <ShiftyAxel> can you open the notifications without it going b00m?
Nov 04 15:36:12 <morphis> they are not opening
Nov 04 15:36:26 <ShiftyAxel> as in it's segfaulting?
Nov 04 15:37:48 <morphis> don't know, I just put my finger on it and nothing happens but lsm is still running
Nov 04 15:37:54 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: btw. luna-sysmgr compilation failed
Nov 04 15:38:07 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1332261/
Nov 04 15:39:04 <ShiftyAxel> hmm
Nov 04 15:39:16 <ShiftyAxel> it's looking for the old filename
Nov 04 15:39:25 <ShiftyAxel> ...I'm sure I changed it in meta-webos
Nov 04 15:41:16 <morphis> ah, maybe I didn't update meta-webos
Nov 04 15:41:49 <morphis> no, I am up-to-date
Nov 04 15:42:32 <ShiftyAxel> morphis, JaMa: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos/pull/3
Nov 04 15:42:42 <ShiftyAxel> there was a typo in the install script all along... doh
Nov 04 15:42:54 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: PR bump?
Nov 04 15:42:58 <JaMa> heh, merging now
Nov 04 15:43:16 <morphis> JaMa: thanks
Nov 04 15:43:29 <ShiftyAxel> whoops, didn't do PR bump
Nov 04 15:43:32 <ShiftyAxel> JaMa^^
Nov 04 15:43:47 <JaMa> no big problem, OEBasicHash will rebuild it anyways
Nov 04 15:44:13 <morphis> ok
Nov 04 15:45:46 <JaMa> merged and pull-request updated
Nov 04 15:46:02 <ShiftyAxel> excellent, i'll kick jenkins again
Nov 04 15:47:31 <ShiftyAxel> ty JaMa
Nov 04 15:49:23 <morphis> builds fine here now
Nov 04 15:49:46 <ShiftyAxel> excellent, the launcher should be laid out correctly by default too
Nov 04 15:52:19 <morphis> ok
Nov 04 15:52:30 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: btw. the app lauching is a little bit laggy now
Nov 04 15:52:39 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, I noticed that
Nov 04 15:52:42 <ShiftyAxel> not sure why it is
Nov 04 15:52:44 <morphis> if I remember well it was smoother before
Nov 04 15:52:47 <morphis> hm
Nov 04 15:53:07 <ShiftyAxel> actually, I have a hunch as to what it might be
Nov 04 15:53:26 <ShiftyAxel> the card loading anim is scaled on pixmap load... it might be loading and scaling the pixmap every time you open an app
Nov 04 15:53:26 <morphis> ok
Nov 04 15:53:45 <morphis> might be superfluous
Nov 04 15:58:01 <ShiftyAxel> entirely possible
Nov 04 15:58:18 <ShiftyAxel> could you open another bug report? I'll look into it when I finish making the keyboard high-res
Nov 04 16:00:30 <morphis> yes
Nov 04 16:11:05 <morphis> JaMa: can you take care to remote the serviceinstaller.bbappend in meta-webos-ports once they bump it in meta-webos?
Nov 04 16:13:20 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: ah one more thing: when I just tip on the gesture area should then come the current card into foreground?
Nov 04 16:14:50 <ShiftyAxel> currently tapping === upswipe
Nov 04 16:15:04 <ShiftyAxel> though yes, I think min/max toggle is the way to go for tapping
Nov 04 16:15:38 <morphis> ok, it's not working right now
Nov 04 16:15:45 <morphis> tapping on gesture area does not do anything
Nov 04 16:15:58 <morphis> just upswipe is working
Nov 04 16:16:18 <ShiftyAxel> hmm, I think the gesture area commits were applied in the wrong order, it's still checking tap position
Nov 04 16:16:24 <morphis> ok
Nov 04 16:16:26 <ShiftyAxel> looks like it works in landscape
Nov 04 16:16:44 <morphis> can I switch into landscape already?
Nov 04 16:16:55 <ShiftyAxel> forward gesture
Nov 04 16:17:32 <morphis> hm
Nov 04 16:20:19 <ShiftyAxel> it should rotate 90deg each time
Nov 04 16:26:24 <morphis> hm somehow it's not working
Nov 04 16:32:34 <morphis> EricBlade: as you are here now: I am seeing a lot of black boxes in the browser application when opening a website, you know why?
Nov 04 16:41:25 <EricBlade> morphis: sorry, you did ask me about that the other day .. and I got interrupted by something before I found the bit i was going to lookup .. sorry .. are we talking about on a device?
Nov 04 16:42:43 <morphis> yes
Nov 04 16:43:20 <morphis> I think it somewhere related to not existing fonts
Nov 04 17:18:23 <morphis> EricBlade: any idea?
Nov 04 17:18:44 <EricBlade> sorry, looking
Nov 04 17:21:44 <EricBlade> morphis: it looks like the standard browser font mappings are defined in WebAppManager's initialization
Nov 04 17:22:04 <morphis> let me look
Nov 04 17:22:34 <EricBlade> Prelude for standard and SansSerif, Times New Roman for Serif, and Courier New for fixed
Nov 04 17:22:38 <morphis> ok, there we have Prelude, Times New Roman and Courier New
Nov 04 17:23:11 <morphis> ok, we only have Prelude on the device
Nov 04 17:23:54 <EricBlade> might try a quick test setting them all to Prelude
Nov 04 17:26:46 <ShiftyAxel> mmm, the keyboards look so very slick in high-res
Nov 04 17:34:21 <morphis> EricBlade: hm, just copying the missing fonts on the device to /usr/share/fonts doesn't help
Nov 04 19:35:50 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade, morphis: hm, the webapp scaling seems to interfere with WebView slightly
Nov 04 19:36:15 <ShiftyAxel> it's got a big 'no render' bar on the right of it...
Nov 04 19:39:25 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: you mean the webview that is using browserserver for webpage rendering?
Nov 04 19:39:37 <ShiftyAxel> morphis: yeah
Nov 04 19:39:50 <ShiftyAxel> looks fine with WebAppScale=1.0
Nov 04 19:40:26 <morphis> means no scaling at all
Nov 04 19:40:31 <ShiftyAxel> ya
Nov 04 19:41:19 <ShiftyAxel> I guess the webview needs to be scaled too
Nov 04 20:09:44 <ShiftyAxel> hum, I'm not sure how to deal with this...
Nov 04 20:10:14 <ShiftyAxel> though it seems to obey the viewport and scale tags
Nov 04 20:10:40 <ShiftyAxel> it just refuses to render the bit of the screen it considers 'out of view' due to the zoom
Nov 04 20:10:50 <ShiftyAxel> perhaps the fix would be in BrowserServer
Nov 04 23:43:24 <bhuey> folks
Nov 05 01:40:40 <ben1066> is there any guidance on how to start a port, or at least attempt to
Nov 05 01:52:13 <rwhitby> ben1066: first, be able to build an existing port from scratch for a supported device
Nov 05 01:52:46 <rwhitby> ben1066: then, be able to build a basic OE distribution image of OpenEmbedded (perhaps Angstrom) for your target device
Nov 05 01:53:07 <rwhitby> ben1066: then you're ready to start understanding the code you want to port, and the hardware you want to port it to.  then just do it.
Nov 05 01:57:25 <ka6sox> ben1066, what rwhitby said...
Nov 05 01:57:55 <ben1066> heh, thanks
Nov 05 01:59:16 <rwhitby> for the "just do it" bit, you start with getting a kernel able to show the first message, then you get an initramfs running, then you get a boot partition running, then you get a minimal rootfs running, then you work on userspace.
Nov 05 02:00:01 <rwhitby> pretty standard embedded system bring-up flow
Nov 05 02:00:27 <ka6sox> ben1066, what device are you thinking about?
Nov 05 02:09:04 <bhuey> hey rwhitby and ka6sox
Nov 05 02:09:07 <bhuey> long time no see
Nov 05 02:14:31 <NuttyBunny> No, "I" should say Hi everyone, long time no see =D
Nov 05 02:14:53 <fxspec06> but you're just a bunny, and bunnies can't talk
Nov 05 02:15:02 <ben1066> ka6sox nexus 7 still, heh
Nov 05 02:15:27 <ben1066> like android but like having options too
Nov 05 02:16:18 <NuttyBunny> My nuts make me talk ;)
Nov 05 02:50:28 <ka6sox> hiya NuttyBunny
Nov 05 02:53:53 <NuttyBunny> hey :)
Nov 05 02:58:27 <ka6sox> ben1066, what rwhitby said is how I would proceed.
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