**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 12 02:59:58 2012 Nov 12 09:34:46 JaMa: can I assume that http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/261 is fixed? Nov 12 09:36:02 true, I forgot to update ticket, but rsync jobs now keep sstate for both qt and webkit Nov 12 09:38:17 great Nov 12 10:39:22 one issue Nov 12 12:27:44 Hello Nov 12 12:28:25 so calm ... Nov 12 12:28:53 koala_: morphis and others has been working on lunasysmgr composition and libhybris as well Nov 12 12:29:22 Stskeeps: oh..thankyou. Nov 12 12:31:44 knock knock.. could I talk with morphis or others who are working on lunasysmgr composition and libhybris? Nov 12 14:53:04 morning Nov 12 17:04:04 Fissurez, Nov 12 17:04:06 hello Nov 12 17:04:12 hi Nov 12 17:04:43 so, GNex port available to try or not? :D Nov 12 17:05:02 no idea Nov 12 17:06:11 hmm, not yet according to the wiki Nov 12 17:11:18 the gnex port is avaliable to those who have extreme linux knowledge and build their own versions usning openembedded.... Nov 12 17:12:08 EXTREME Nov 12 17:15:49 * addi shows himself out the door :D Nov 12 17:20:46 hi Nov 12 17:25:02 EXTREME LINUX Nov 12 17:26:32 EXTREEEEEEEEME Nov 12 17:29:20 isn't that XTREME? Nov 12 17:51:49 Fissurez, Garfonso dwc- its Pre-Alpha...meaning build it and install it manually... Nov 12 17:52:11 EXTREME ALPHA Nov 12 17:52:24 that's what I did. :) Nov 12 17:52:26 will it be an extreme pre + alpha next? Nov 12 17:52:57 * ka6sox did not say any form of *xtreme* Nov 12 17:53:06 just did! Nov 12 17:53:52 * scoutcamper knew he used the wring word as soon as he said it Nov 12 17:54:01 s/wring/wrong/ Nov 12 17:54:02 can't prove a negative I guess...sigh Nov 12 17:54:07 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJoMU71E0a0 Nov 12 17:54:09 buhahaha Nov 12 17:54:12 damn ergonomic keyboard Nov 12 17:54:20 he compared it to the iphone 4 PPI XD Nov 12 17:54:34 and he got the nexus 10 ppi wrong too Nov 12 18:37:31 morning Nov 12 18:50:44 ShiftyAxel: can you describe http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/305 a little bit more? Nov 12 18:54:38 morphis: telling the gnex to shutdown/halt/reboot (via ssh) causes it to disconnect ssh and then do nothing, requiring a battery pull Nov 12 18:55:08 I'm studying atm, but will update the entry when I can Nov 12 18:55:11 hm, yes I discovered this sometimes Nov 12 18:55:20 but most times it works for me Nov 12 18:55:25 ok Nov 12 18:58:26 mine failed to do it a few times, so I gave up trying Nov 12 18:59:03 also iirc the shutdown/reboot buttons in luna don't work, but the ui scaling means we can't use them atm Nov 12 18:59:11 s/use/test/ Nov 12 18:59:11 ShiftyAxel meant: also iirc the shutdown/reboot buttons in luna don't work, but the ui scaling means we can't test them atm Nov 12 19:03:11 we would have to extend libhybris to include the PMIC stuff too. Nov 12 19:05:51 ShiftyAxel: what do they have to do with ui-scaling? Nov 12 19:05:55 ka6sox: PMIC? Nov 12 19:06:48 morphis: they're part of the luna-systemui webapps, for some reason the scaling pushes the power off/reboot buttons offscreen Nov 12 19:06:56 Power Manglement IC Nov 12 19:07:14 hm Nov 12 19:08:16 ka6sox: why we need this in libhybris? Nov 12 19:10:55 maybe its already done...and I'm OTL Nov 12 19:11:07 I thought that sort of thing was nyx Nov 12 19:12:53 lower level than nyx Nov 12 19:15:50 Can anyone tell me why Open webOS is supposed to require kernel 3.3+ ? Seems like 72ka got it running on 3.0.42 kernel? http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-open-source-devices/319313-openwebos-allwinner-a10-tablet.html Nov 12 19:24:46 |Herrie|: it's not a hard requirement ... Nov 12 19:25:08 'cause stone cold said so Nov 12 19:25:09 |Herrie|, 3.x should work. Nov 12 19:25:15 s/stone cold/HP/ Nov 12 19:25:15 ShiftyAxel meant: 'cause HP said so Nov 12 19:25:33 ShiftyAxel, HP == Stone Cold? Nov 12 19:27:56 <|Herrie|> Did you guys find any hard requirements in the code that would require 3.3+ in order for it to run? Nov 12 19:28:26 <|Herrie|> Seems like 72ka got it running on his cheapass Chinese tablet ;) At least from what he can see ;) WiFi works etc ;) So that would mean there's hope for legacy devices still too ;) Nov 12 19:29:06 ka6sox: well, they've certainly executed their share of stunners Nov 12 19:29:18 Nov 12 19:30:20 |Herrie|: pull requests for meta-legacy-hardware will be gladly accepted ;) Nov 12 19:30:35 ShiftyAxel, Previous Administration... Nov 12 19:30:45 (s) Nov 12 19:31:17 very true, I kid :p Nov 12 19:34:36 |Herrie|: what means "wifi works"? Nov 12 19:36:30 <|Herrie|> Seems like he can connect to his tablet via WiFi ;) Nov 12 19:36:39 <|Herrie|> Since his touchscreen doesn't work yet ;) Nov 12 19:36:50 <|Herrie|> So looks like he got working kernel drivers for his WiFi so he can connect ;) Nov 12 19:37:39 ah but that does not belong in any way to owo Nov 12 19:37:58 <|Herrie|> No that's true ;) Nov 12 19:38:04 |Herrie|, I think the plan is to use whatever 3.X+ kernel that we get with the device as long as it has the necessary bits. Nov 12 19:38:48 I would suspect that 2.6.29 would work too for example ... Nov 12 19:38:54 <|Herrie|> I see :) So since for the legacy devices with Qualcomm chipsets there are 3.x kernels available now and therefore also drivers, they should be doable ;) Nov 12 19:39:09 <|Herrie|> 2.6.29, interesting :) Nov 12 19:39:17 <|Herrie|> Nobody played with this yet? Nov 12 19:39:25 it should not be that problem Nov 12 19:39:39 there isn't any hard requirement in the owo system yet that needs a specific kernel Nov 12 19:39:45 maybe the implemented nyx-modules Nov 12 19:39:53 but they are just modules and replacable Nov 12 19:40:06 |Herrie|, drivers that work with legacy devices I am not aware of yet. Nov 12 19:40:06 ShiftyAxel: can you take a look at my last meta-webos-ports commits? Nov 12 19:40:09 <|Herrie|> Ah OK, that could be, I was just wondering where it came from, because I saw people running it on other kernels ;) Nov 12 19:40:36 kernel versions are not that problem Nov 12 19:40:39 drivers are Nov 12 19:40:44 <|Herrie|> Ah ok Nov 12 19:40:52 what morphis said ^^ Nov 12 19:41:00 a for example 2.6.29 from hp veer is not 2.6.29 you can get from upstream Nov 12 19:41:10 s/a for/and for/ Nov 12 19:41:11 morphis meant: and for example 2.6.29 from hp veer is not 2.6.29 you can get from upstream Nov 12 19:41:17 its heavily modded Nov 12 19:41:28 thats the case for every smartphone/tablet out there Nov 12 19:41:42 and most modded kernels are bad ... really bad ... Nov 12 19:42:05 <|Herrie|> OK :( Nov 12 19:42:19 <|Herrie|> So hopes would be on CodeAurora and the likes for proper drivers? Nov 12 19:42:44 and another problem: Nov 12 19:43:02 just because you have the code for a specific SOC does not mean you can simply put it on a device with that SOC Nov 12 19:43:25 and CodeAurora/TI/ will only provide you source for a soc but not for specific machine Nov 12 19:43:39 so you still have to do the machine specific things Nov 12 19:44:40 |Herrie|: please trust me when I see the GNexus is the best device we have so far Nov 12 19:46:25 ShiftyAxel: can you take a look at my recent commits for meta-webos-ports? Nov 12 19:46:52 |Herrie|: I am doing this kind of stuff already for a longer time now Nov 12 19:50:18 <|Herrie|> Simon, I believe you, don't worry, just curious ;) Nov 12 19:50:33 <|Herrie|> Got some spare devices to toy with, so would like to get my hands dirty ;) Nov 12 19:50:51 <|Herrie|> While you guys focus on the Nexus ;) Nov 12 19:50:54 ok, if you like this then please go forward :) Nov 12 19:51:03 you will learn a lot Nov 12 19:51:06 <|Herrie|> What would be the best way to approach this? Nov 12 19:51:14 <|Herrie|> Try with OpenEmbedded build or... ? Nov 12 19:51:28 <|Herrie|> Do like Penk did with Ubuntu? I guess OpenEmbedded it best performance wise? Nov 12 19:51:36 please go with OE Nov 12 19:51:54 |Herrie|: which device you want to target? Nov 12 19:51:57 <|Herrie|> Are there any need to reads to get started? Nov 12 19:52:08 <|Herrie|> Veer is my daily driver, but got some Pre3 and a Pre2 on their way Nov 12 19:52:32 <|Herrie|> Pre2 is outdated but probably easiest target since it has same chipset as Penk's Nook Color (more or less) Nov 12 19:52:37 |Herrie|: there is already machine layer called meta-palm Nov 12 19:52:37 https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-smartphone/tree/webOS-ports/master/meta-palm Nov 12 19:52:52 with support for hpveer, palmpre and palmpre2 Nov 12 19:52:56 I did it once ago Nov 12 19:53:07 <|Herrie|> OK, you used it for SHR? Nov 12 19:53:14 yes Nov 12 19:53:21 but you should be able to got with Nov 12 19:53:23 <|Herrie|> Worked OK? Nov 12 19:53:23 1. http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus_Build_Setup Nov 12 19:53:32 2. MACHINE=hpveer bb webos-dev-image Nov 12 19:53:57 you will miss a lot of needed modifications but for a first try :) Nov 12 19:53:58 <|Herrie|> OK :) Nov 12 19:54:01 morphis, these will need 1.5X images right? Nov 12 19:54:11 not 4X Nov 12 19:54:17 <|Herrie|> I think it will take a while before I need to worry about that ;) Nov 12 19:54:21 ka6sox: ? Nov 12 19:54:39 |Herrie| gets it :D Nov 12 19:54:42 |Herrie|: and add meta-palm in bblayers.conf Nov 12 19:54:49 |Herrie|: for sure, and please never hope to get telephony working :) Nov 12 19:55:01 JaMa: ah yes, thanks for the hint Nov 12 19:56:05 JaMa: we need to cleanup the image situation in meta-webos-ports Nov 12 19:56:26 we have webos-image (not including everything we need) and webos-dev-image (fully functional with everything we need) Nov 12 19:57:01 JaMa: should we use webos-image and append our stuff? Nov 12 19:57:06 <|Herrie|> Why not hoping on telephony? Nov 12 19:57:30 Herrie: it will not work ... Nov 12 19:58:03 As in that it doesn't work on GNex yet either? Nov 12 19:58:11 I started with implementing the needed protocol once ago as part of msmcomm (http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=msmcomm.git;a=summary) but it's not working and far away from being funtional Nov 12 19:58:22 Herrie: it works on gnexus Nov 12 19:58:42 ofono can be use already to set up data connection and dial calls Nov 12 19:58:49 but its not integrated yet into the UI Nov 12 19:59:35 Herrie: and all the qualcomm-shit is nothing easy to play with ... Nov 12 20:01:00 Herrie: msmcom was fun and implements the modem protocol for the palmpre/palmpre2 but it never reached a usable state Nov 12 20:03:42 morphis: or we can append one of the task-* recipes, but imho we should wait for task-* cleanup finish first Nov 12 20:03:53 ok Nov 12 20:03:56 OK I see :( So how did HP/Palm deal with it? Proprietary kernel stuff with binary blobs? Nov 12 20:04:05 JaMa: we already have: packagegroup-webos-ports-extended \ Nov 12 20:04:06 packagegroup-webos-ports-development Nov 12 20:04:09 Since they released kernel sources, I suspec that's the case? Nov 12 20:04:21 Herrie: those things are not done within the kernel Nov 12 20:04:32 its a userland component which properitary Nov 12 20:04:41 and you will never get the source for it Nov 12 20:04:53 morphis: yes, but opkg shouldn't be there (package-management IMAGE_FEATURE) Nov 12 20:05:17 morphis: and for openssh IMAGE_FEATURE we need that image bbappend :/ Nov 12 20:06:22 ah ok Nov 12 20:06:41 JaMa: can you take care of this? I would like to see one final webos-image we will ship later Nov 12 20:08:03 I plan to take care of this after https://github.com/openwebos/meta-webos/pull/23 is resolved Nov 12 20:08:24 JaMa: great Nov 12 20:09:32 JaMa: hope this happens soon, discussion for this PR is already too long ... Nov 12 20:10:13 agreed Nov 12 20:11:27 JaMa: I am thinking about adding version 1.9 of connman Nov 12 20:11:50 iirc we talked about this before? Nov 12 20:11:54 maybe Nov 12 20:12:01 I am trying to remember :) Nov 12 20:12:22 iirc you said you will add it to meta-webos-ports and then we should merge it to upstream Nov 12 20:12:24 OK, thanks for clarification, you happen to know where in userland it is? Nov 12 20:13:11 Jack87|Away: ah yes, found the lines in my logs :) Nov 12 20:13:28 ack Nov 12 20:13:33 Herrie: yes, search for TelephonyInterfaceLayer Nov 12 20:14:14 Herrie: for veer 2.1.1: /usr/lib/libTelephonyInterfaceLayer.so Nov 12 20:14:44 Herrie: same for pre3 Nov 12 20:14:58 JaMa: then I will finally do this :) Nov 12 20:15:20 too much in my head these days Nov 12 20:16:15 I am off for today Nov 12 20:16:16 bye Nov 12 20:16:23 bye morphis Nov 12 20:16:50 nite morphis Nov 12 20:19:10 JaMa: one thing: when https://github.com/openwebos/qt/commit/fb493b935f8271b11e031118f09541e28a8bd293 is pulled in through meta-webos we have to drop https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/master/recipes-webos/qt4/qt4-webos/dont-link-against-libhid.patch Nov 12 20:20:21 morphis: acked, there will be more changes needed if my qt patches are applied before qt submission is upgraded so I'll remember Nov 12 20:20:37 great Nov 12 21:27:57 did someone already look int porting openwebos to the hp veer? Nov 12 21:30:05 pretty sure no existing webos devices are getting ported was stated Nov 12 21:30:07 but youre welcome to try Nov 12 21:30:13 i would start with the pre3 though personally Nov 12 21:31:49 why pre3 and not the veer? just you like it more or some technical reason? Nov 12 21:32:00 pre3 is later hardware than the veer Nov 12 21:32:03 so faster Nov 12 21:32:15 plus armv7 instead of armv6 Nov 12 21:32:33 oh the veer might be armv7 too, i was thinking the pixi i guess Nov 12 21:32:49 the veer is really really old Nov 12 21:33:17 in webos terms Nov 12 21:33:33 dind't the veer and pre3 launch at the same time? thought the hw would be more or less the same Nov 12 21:33:37 i can say this: WebOS-Ports will not target existing devices Nov 12 21:33:38 no Nov 12 21:34:01 the veer and the pre2 maybe launched at the same time Nov 12 21:34:12 i think its a pity since the veer really is a great device :) Nov 12 21:34:18 oh, okay Nov 12 21:34:20 then work on porting it :) Nov 12 21:34:25 good luck! Nov 12 21:34:47 i think android devices are more open so easier to port entire os's too Nov 12 21:34:54 * scoutcamper was always afraid he would break his veer with how tiny it is.... Nov 12 21:35:04 even tho veer is a webos device, it would be like starting from scratch on the port Nov 12 21:35:15 since its new kernel/everything Nov 12 21:35:29 veer and pixi are the only webos devices i dont have Nov 12 21:36:10 I have a few Veers and soon a Pre2 and some Pre3's (currently held up at customs, hopefully delivered tomorrow or the day after) Nov 12 21:36:25 why? Nov 12 21:36:26 I'm planning to give it a go on the Veer to start with, then maybe Pre2, Pre3 Nov 12 21:36:44 ahh trying to port to them? cool! good luck. Nov 12 21:36:48 Pre2 should be fairly straight forward seeing Penk managed to get the same family chipset working on the Nook Color Nov 12 21:37:06 But Veer & Pre3 will be a pain due to Qualcomm MSM chipset :( Nov 12 21:37:09 pre2 was so slow though Nov 12 21:37:27 but i can help test if you need testers Nov 12 21:37:34 do you have the veer kernel patches? Nov 12 21:37:45 Pre2 = 1Ghz Nov 12 21:37:48 Should do the trick Nov 12 21:37:52 Veer = 800Mhz only Nov 12 21:37:57 Veer runs fine in general with webOS Nov 12 21:38:09 did anybody ever put android on those, out of curiousity? Nov 12 21:38:12 Could be a bit faster but well... Nov 12 21:38:18 Veer = yes, has some prort Nov 12 21:38:19 port Nov 12 21:38:25 Not really workable, but exists Nov 12 21:38:49 Seems that Open webOS can run on 3.x kernel and not only 3.3+, see 72ka success on Allwinner A10 tablet ;) Nov 12 21:38:56 Runs 3.0.42 ;) Nov 12 21:39:09 Guys here say it MIGHT run on 2.6 kernel too Nov 12 21:39:31 haha the veer port has no touchscreen driver :p Nov 12 21:39:50 I think that was sorted, but there were problems with WiFi and other stuff Nov 12 21:39:53 well if someone could tell me where to get the original 2.6 kernel patches (n sourcecode) i could try and port them to 3.x kernels Nov 12 21:40:14 Problem is that drivers are closed source for 2.6 Nov 12 21:40:20 what? Nov 12 21:40:25 oh come on! Nov 12 21:40:28 They're binary blobs Nov 12 21:40:40 f*ck Nov 12 21:41:23 okay, i have a copy of IDA... but that seems to be an awful lot of work, not sure if i want to go that way :-/ Nov 12 21:41:55 Herrie do you have a logic analyzer? Nov 12 21:42:11 or an oscilloscope? Nov 12 21:42:25 No, only got multimeter :( Nov 12 21:43:02 And some JTAG device ;) Nov 12 21:43:22 Bus Blaster V2 Nov 12 21:43:33 bus blaster is good Nov 12 21:43:40 do you have some decent solder skills? Nov 12 21:43:50 Didn't really use it yet, but I got it... Solder skills are not that good :( Nov 12 21:44:03 But got pogo pins with it, in case it helps :P Nov 12 21:45:59 hrm yes, maybe. I think i will have a look at the binary blobs on my veer, if i find them as single modules i will give them a try with IDA Pro, but if that wont work we might need a logic anlyzer/bus pirate to reverse engineer the communication with the screen/buttons/whatever Nov 12 21:46:26 problem will be the chipset, its a little hard to use the buspirate on the internal bus :) Nov 12 21:46:53 Chipset should be OK in general, there should be MSM7x30 drivers for both 2.6 and 3.0 kernel Nov 12 21:47:09 Just not specifically for the Veer, but that shouldn't be the end of the world Nov 12 21:47:23 Most drivers are around 15KB Nov 12 21:47:32 SHould be fairly doable with IDA Pro I would say Nov 12 21:47:43 THere's also ARMu that could be used maybe Nov 12 21:48:34 sounds good, yes Nov 12 21:50:20 Directory of E:\Veer\Veer224\nova-cust-image-broadway.rootfs\lib\modules\2.6.29-palm-shank\kernel\arch\arm\mach-msm Nov 12 21:50:20 26-10-2011 02:46 9.484 dal_remotetest.ko Nov 12 21:50:21 26-10-2011 02:46 6.376 dma_test.ko Nov 12 21:50:21 26-10-2011 02:46 4.648 reset_modem.ko Nov 12 21:50:35 Directory of E:\Veer\Veer224\nova-cust-image-broadway.rootfs\lib\modules\2.6.29-palm-shank\kernel\drivers\input\misc Nov 12 21:50:35 26-10-2011 02:46 10.072 bma150.ko Nov 12 21:51:02 Directory of E:\Veer\Veer224\nova-cust-image-broadway.rootfs\lib\modules\2.6.29-palm-shank\kernel\drivers\block Nov 12 21:51:02 26-10-2011 02:46 15.048 nbd.ko Nov 12 21:51:07 Don't seem too big Nov 12 21:51:30 yeah should be possible Nov 12 21:51:42 Not sure which ones we need... bma150 = touchscreen for sure Nov 12 21:52:25 Sorry bma150 = accelerometer Nov 12 21:52:39 Touchscreen should be cypress one somewhere Nov 12 21:54:04 Seems like touchscreen we have already somewhere ;) Nov 12 21:54:05 https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fa88bbdf188bf4a9c25c627f28d0b4f0c7d2afa Nov 12 21:55:58 thats cool Nov 12 21:56:35 Hopefully get my external HD casing tomorrow so I can do dedicated Ubuntu install :) Nov 12 21:56:45 bma150 should be fairly good documented Nov 12 21:56:48 Upgraded PC to AMD FX-8150 with 16GB ram last week :) Nov 12 21:56:56 congrats :) Nov 12 21:56:59 Should speed up OE build quite a bit ;) Nov 12 21:57:07 Compared to X2 6000+ with 4GB ;) Nov 12 21:57:19 oh my... Nov 12 21:57:53 Herrie, that was one of our builders for a previous project. Nov 12 21:58:22 http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/347741/ETC2/BMA150.html Nov 12 21:58:45 so BMA150 shouldn't be a problem Nov 12 21:59:25 X2 6000+ = too slow for OE buildb ;) Nov 12 21:59:41 8 core with 16 GB should do a lot better when running Ubuntu natively ;) Nov 12 22:00:15 Herrie: i would suggest tmpfs in RAM and build completely out of /tmp, that should speed it up really Nov 12 22:01:19 OE needs 40+ GB I think Nov 12 22:01:25 won't manage to stuck it into 16 ? Nov 12 22:01:54 ooops, didn't know that Nov 12 22:01:58 well, ssd then Nov 12 22:03:28 My SSD is only 64GB, but that should do hopefully ;) Nov 12 22:03:34 Ubuntu = 4GB I think Nov 12 22:03:55 http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/blobs/fba1952fb37572c51fe309526804303e1554af45/drivers/i2c/chips/microp-bma150.c Nov 12 22:04:20 bma150 = accelerometer, nothing too interesting to start with ;) Nov 12 22:04:29 looks like there ist already a bma150 driver for android, shouldnt be too hard to port it to oe Nov 12 22:04:31 It's good for rotation, but for the rest ;) Nov 12 22:04:40 yeah, but the more we have the better Nov 12 22:05:10 Got Crucial RealSSD C300 as spare, that should do the trick I think Nov 12 22:05:17 A bit dated, but quite fast still Nov 12 22:11:09 i will setup a build env now, hopefully it will work :) Nov 12 22:11:52 OK, I don't have any place left in my PC currently to put a SSD Nov 12 22:11:59 Or need to swap my DVD drive out ;) Nov 12 22:12:22 Tomorrow should get external back to connect HD via USB 3 etc Nov 12 22:12:23 you dont need that old thing anyway, swap it out :) Nov 12 22:12:40 Yeah but need to install my ubuntu, easiest from DVD ;) Nov 12 22:13:26 or usb key, they have some tiny tools that will do all the work for you, but if you like of course just use dvd Nov 12 22:13:53 USB would do I guess Nov 12 22:14:40 Let me empty 32GB USB stick ;) Nov 12 22:14:47 Need to backup stuff will take some minutes Nov 12 22:27:12 hey ka6sox Nov 12 22:31:26 2min 45 seconds left before I can erase USB ;) Nov 12 22:32:13 my laptop is getting hot already :) Nov 12 22:32:19 hiya bhuey Nov 12 22:33:50 okay time for me to go fix this thing I've been waiting for parts for all day...bbll Nov 12 22:34:42 64 bit ubuntu is OK for OE build right? Nov 12 22:34:52 should be, yes Nov 12 22:35:09 at least its running right now here :) Nov 12 22:36:11 OK putting ubuntu x64 12.04 install to USB stick now ;) Nov 12 22:37:16 2 min 30 seconds remaining ;) Nov 12 22:38:56 Time flies, USB done here ;) Nov 12 22:39:03 Will reboot soon, install Ubuntu on SSD Nov 12 22:39:10 Should be back in 10-15 mins I guess Nov 12 23:11:30 Finally back Nov 12 23:11:39 WiFi didnt want to work for some reason Nov 12 23:11:43 So plugged in cable Nov 12 23:12:30 Now in Ubuntu on my SSD ;) Nov 12 23:14:35 Any ideas why I cannot get the packages to install? " E: Unable to locate package build-essential" Nov 12 23:15:50 sounds like apt sources are wrong Nov 12 23:16:05 or you need to do an aptitude update Nov 12 23:16:27 This is clean install from Ubuntu 12.04 Nov 12 23:16:33 Didn't touch a thing yet Nov 12 23:16:40 Worked fine before in VirtualBox :( Nov 12 23:16:51 This is native Ubuntu though, but shouldn't make a difference Nov 12 23:17:37 sudo apt-get update? Nov 12 23:17:58 That seems to do something ;) Nov 12 23:18:05 Updating lots of bits and pieces now Nov 12 23:18:14 pretty standard fare for installing Nov 12 23:18:25 Should I install all the updates from Ubuntu Update manager? Nov 12 23:18:29 Or ignore them? Nov 12 23:18:31 and afterwards you should check if you have some frimware missing for your wifi Nov 12 23:18:39 install them Nov 12 23:18:49 never good to ignore updates Nov 12 23:18:57 Driver is there, just not sure why it doesn't want to work Nov 12 23:19:05 Anyway plugged cable now, that will do the trick Nov 12 23:19:18 its faster anyway :) Nov 12 23:19:37 A bit but get up to 90 Mb/s on my WiFi so not bad ;) Nov 12 23:19:52 Did some tweaking on the channels ;) Nov 12 23:22:22 build machine? could skip them if you're lazy... probably nothing functionally important :p Nov 12 23:23:09 Updates are almost done already ;) Nov 12 23:23:12 204 pcs ;) Nov 12 23:27:04 i also would skip them if I wasn't using it as my main machine Nov 12 23:27:09 or OS Nov 12 23:28:46 Nah they're done, continuing build ;) Nov 12 23:29:24 well youcould argue now that its kind of a bad idea to use an unpatched browser to surf the net, because of security and stuff Nov 12 23:30:29 Well it's *nix, should be OK even without patches in most cases ;) Nov 12 23:30:30 LOL Nov 12 23:33:25 Running " make setup-webos-ports" now, should be done shortly Nov 12 23:33:33 Flies quite OK on SSD :D Nov 12 23:36:27 What should I set my BB_NUMBER_THREADS to? Got AMD FX-8150 with 16GB ram Nov 12 23:36:35 8, 16, 32 or ... ? Nov 12 23:37:02 how many integer cores does that thing have? 8 or 16/ Nov 12 23:37:04 how many cores do you have?(sorry im not familiar with amd's lineup) Nov 12 23:37:25 8 Nov 12 23:38:24 then set bbthreads to 8(some would say 7 but i firmly believe in 8, i have a i7-2600k with it set to 8 and it works fine....) Nov 12 23:38:43 ok Nov 12 23:40:10 Ok trying to run now :) Nov 12 23:40:14 See where we get for the Veer ;) Nov 12 23:40:40 https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2011-November/005664.html these guys use 2x corenumber Nov 12 23:40:55 that would be 16, but 8 will work just fine, too Nov 12 23:41:05 ok Nov 12 23:41:18 Will do some testing to see what's quicker I guess Nov 12 23:41:31 Seems to be running Nov 12 23:41:40 Psuedo not present, parsing recipes Nov 12 23:43:44 Running, I guess this will take a while ;) Nov 12 23:43:50 Should go off to bed I guess ;) Nov 12 23:44:10 Herrie, i can do a build in under an hour Nov 12 23:44:30 but it depends on your download speeds as well... Nov 12 23:44:41 Download = 120 Mbit/s ;) Nov 12 23:44:55 Shouldn't be the issue ;) Nov 12 23:44:59 too many smilies in this channel for my liking... Nov 12 23:45:11 Will it tell how long it took when it's finished? Nov 12 23:45:19 OK will stop smiling.... Nov 12 23:46:28 Herrie, mine doesnt tell me, i use a physical stopwatch, move the build to my 2nd monitor and watch tv untill it finishes :P Nov 12 23:46:45 LOL OK Nov 12 23:47:13 Anyway almost 1 AM here so bedtime for me, will be up at 6:30 again and 5 hrs is my minimum to function more or less properly ;) Nov 12 23:49:20 ~sleep Herrie Nov 12 23:49:21 * WoceBot uses the banhammer to put Herrie to sleep for the next 12 hours Nov 12 23:51:27 OK i'm off to sleep Nov 12 23:51:37 Will check in when I wake up and when my build is done Nov 13 00:20:30 hm, interesting Nov 13 00:20:36 looks like the card shadow wasn't working Nov 13 00:20:40 oh hey look I fixed it Nov 13 00:35:13 https://twitter.com/shiftyaxel/status/268148016609906689 Nov 13 01:11:15 Hi guys Nov 13 01:11:34 hi Nov 13 01:12:14 I've a Pre3 AT&T and I need to understand if the 4G will work on this carrier, http://www.straighttalk.com/ ... does someone know? Nov 13 01:13:22 I mean, should work on all 4G lines, once I've unlocked the AT&T block, right? Nov 13 01:16:15 oh found on a forum that they should use same AT&T frequencies, well I think we've done here, if you have news about let me know :) Nov 13 01:16:30 thanks Nov 13 02:12:19 Guys, my build failed, any ideas what could cause it? Nov 13 02:12:39 " install: cannot stat `/home/herrie/OWO/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/work/armv7a-vfp-neon-webos-linux-gnueabi/initscripts-1.0-r143/mountdevtmpfs.sh': No such file or directory" Nov 13 02:13:18 " Summary: 1 task failed: /home/herrie/OWO/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/openembedded-core/meta/recipes-core/initscripts/initscripts_1.0.bb, do_install" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 13 02:59:57 2012