**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 16 02:59:59 2012 Nov 16 06:13:29 hiya bhuey Nov 16 06:13:37 morn ka6sox-away Nov 16 06:13:57 morning Stskeeps Nov 16 07:44:45 hey Nov 16 07:48:37 bhuey Nov 16 07:48:44 brb...getting food/grog Nov 16 08:18:22 mroning Nov 16 08:18:40 mor Nov 16 08:18:41 n Nov 16 13:08:23 folks Nov 16 13:34:08 top o'the morning Nov 16 18:02:11 Morning guys! Nov 16 18:02:22 What's the word of the day ? Nov 16 18:02:45 papaledoupe Nov 16 18:03:33 also, morning Nov 16 18:20:27 https://twitter.com/shiftyaxel/status/269504648816250880 Nov 16 18:20:37 https://twitter.com/shiftyaxel/status/269505148563369984 Nov 16 18:20:44 we have pin/password lock scaling, woo! Nov 16 18:26:41 You keep amazing us! Nov 16 18:28:13 * ShiftyAxel takes a bow Nov 16 18:29:16 I hope to continue doing so also :) Nov 16 18:39:50 hum, good news and bad news Nov 16 18:40:04 luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.display/control/setState "{'state': 'dock'}" works to activate exhibition, and it does activate Nov 16 18:40:18 but the default clock app is MASSIVE and SLOW AS ALL HELL Nov 16 18:55:05 :( Nov 16 18:55:12 Why is it massive and slow? Nov 16 18:55:14 Enyo 1 ? Nov 16 18:55:50 QML, as it happens Nov 16 18:56:14 I think the massive/slow part may be my fault, I did a batch resize of all the UI images to 4x scale to prep for the reskin Nov 16 18:56:15 Is this Legacy clock app or there's a new one too? Nov 16 18:56:22 the one in exhibition from the TP Nov 16 18:56:41 Ah ok, I didn't recall seeing a clock app in OWO? Nov 16 18:56:59 I think it's slow because the images are all ginormous w/no scaling (yet) and for some reason QML scrolling doesn't like our touch implementation atm Nov 16 18:57:07 there's a clock app in OWO, that also is the one from TP Nov 16 18:57:16 Ah I see :) Nov 16 18:57:49 I'm surprised about the small amount of apps HP supplied. Most stuff wasn't rocket science and I can't imagine it had much proprietary stuff Nov 16 18:58:13 I think there are legalities at play there Nov 16 18:58:47 Nothing we can't pull from TP and re-engineer ;) Nov 16 18:58:56 though it would indeed have been nice if we had more, I'm having to change settings with luna-send -n 1 '{stuff}' at the moment Nov 16 18:59:10 AIO settings cannot do the trick? Nov 16 18:59:16 Just wondering? Didn't play with that yet Nov 16 18:59:18 nope, AIO settings is a thin wrapper Nov 16 18:59:24 AH OK Nov 16 19:00:02 it's literally an iframe that points at the settings apps Nov 16 19:00:44 Ah ok ;) Nov 16 19:01:12 Do we know of any HP plans for additional apps, so we won't develop stuff that they will develop too? Nov 16 19:02:34 Herrie: what are you thinking about? Nov 16 19:02:51 Herrie: ask me and I will maybe tell if it's worth to got forward :) Nov 16 19:04:40 I'm currently looking into getting my hands dirty with Enyo2 and develop some local Dutch apps, since we really have only a handful currently ;) Nov 16 19:06:53 Herrie: ok, we really need some test application which issues some simple ls2 command Nov 16 19:06:55 s Nov 16 19:08:42 ls2? Nov 16 19:08:50 luna-service2 Nov 16 19:09:16 Herrie: would be good start to come into enyo2 and would help us a lot Nov 16 19:09:20 like a screenshot button Nov 16 19:09:31 ShiftyAxel: ^^ Nov 16 19:11:08 Ah ok Nov 16 19:11:52 and for the other apps: the various core apps need work to looker better and to be usable with the current resolution Nov 16 19:12:08 hehe, screenshots can be done with volkeys+power (when I bind it) Nov 16 19:12:20 ShiftyAxel: that would great too Nov 16 19:12:23 however, a basic app with some debug buttons like 'launch exhibition' would be good Nov 16 19:12:41 ShiftyAxel: on https://twitter.com/shiftyaxel/status/269504648816250880 the pinpad is overlapping the clock Nov 16 19:13:00 can we move it a little bit more so both are not overlapping? Nov 16 19:13:08 or perhaps an app that can store a set of ls2 calls as JSON, then map them to a set of buttons created on runtime Nov 16 19:13:12 THAT would be awesome Nov 16 19:13:16 yeah, it can be done Nov 16 19:13:34 Herrie: ah and we need a settings application Nov 16 19:13:36 I'm not sure if I should move the clock or the pin box first... I did tweak the clock a bit to look more 2.x-ey Nov 16 19:13:44 for setting lock mode for example Nov 16 19:13:52 ah Nov 16 19:13:53 yeah, that would be v.useful Nov 16 19:14:11 ShiftyAxel: yeah great idea (app with dynamic ls2 calls) Nov 16 19:14:30 being able to save custom ls2 calls would be sweet Nov 16 19:14:41 ShiftyAxel: you merged pinpad scaling already to webos-ports/master? Nov 16 19:14:56 yeah, didn't bump SRCREV in -ports yet though Nov 16 19:15:35 ok, I am building with autorev anyway Nov 16 19:16:40 so it should pick up automatically? Nov 16 19:17:18 yes Nov 16 19:17:38 just put SRCREV_pn-luna-sysmgr = "${AUTOREV}" to conf/local.conf Nov 16 19:26:06 Will first get some simple stuff working by playing around before venturing into the ls2 stuff ;) Nov 16 19:26:16 Morphis, any idea why I cannot get OE build working for Pre2? Nov 16 19:26:29 Herrie: whats the problem with it? Nov 16 19:26:37 Got EGL sorted but still had the other error Nov 16 19:26:57 Need to reboot to see what it was exactly, gimme a minute to switch to linux ;) Nov 16 19:27:00 ok Nov 16 19:30:40 ShiftyAxel: you didn't pushed webOS-ports/master for lsm ... Nov 16 19:32:26 Back in Linux Nov 16 19:32:31 Lemme check that error msg Nov 16 19:33:54 re-running the process now, but should fail in a minute or so.... Nov 16 19:35:59 This is the error I'm getting: EGL one seems to have vanished after I took the OMAP3 stuff like you suggested :) Nov 16 19:36:02 "cp: cannot stat `include/generated/bounds.h': No such file or directory" Nov 16 19:36:36 Hmmz get a warning on top of my log " Warning: you may need to install module-init-tools" Nov 16 19:36:40 Could that be it? Nov 16 19:37:31 maybe Nov 16 19:37:45 from which component do you get the error? Nov 16 19:38:09 Seems while building kernel Nov 16 19:38:50 hm Nov 16 19:39:08 JaMa: are we still building SHR for palmpre2? Nov 16 19:39:58 morphis: no Nov 16 19:40:03 ok Nov 16 19:40:24 Herrie: then I can't help without trying to build on myself where I don't have time for Nov 16 19:40:42 OK :( Too bad, could try of course ;) Nov 16 19:40:43 but you can check the source of the kernel if it contains the header file Nov 16 19:40:48 Thought you might have a quick fix ;) Nov 16 19:40:52 or search the internet where the header file belongs to Nov 16 19:40:55 not really Nov 16 19:41:05 it needs more investigation Nov 16 19:41:57 morphis: whoops, sorry about that Nov 16 19:42:05 just pushed Nov 16 19:42:06 Herrie: iirc it was from kernel Nov 16 19:42:51 ShiftyAxel: thanks Nov 16 19:43:14 working on scaling exhibition atm Nov 16 19:43:26 for some reason the status bar is tiny in portrait... Nov 16 19:48:10 morphis: do you use an IDE for coding? Nov 16 19:48:54 I've been using a text editor so far... Nov 16 19:50:00 I guess I'll ask the room too: any suggestions for a C++ IDE that runs under ubuntu? Nov 16 19:54:53 ShiftyAxel: just pure vim :) Nov 16 19:55:10 ShiftyAxel: you can try eclipse Nov 16 19:55:33 wow, that's hardcode :p Nov 16 19:55:40 s/hardcode/hardcore/ Nov 16 19:55:40 ShiftyAxel meant: wow, that's hardcore :p Nov 16 19:56:09 I'm mostly thinking in terms of the non-fatal warning produced during compilation with this Nov 16 19:56:25 I've noticed that luna spits out a fair few 'defined but not used' and other kinds Nov 16 19:56:41 yes it does Nov 16 19:57:19 thinking I might go through and do a cleanup at some point, figured an IDE might be easier than searching the build terminal Nov 16 19:57:25 though I guess I could pipe it through grep... Nov 16 20:00:32 you can use vim for that too :) Nov 16 20:00:52 !? Nov 16 20:01:01 vim can control builds? Nov 16 20:01:17 yes Nov 16 20:01:23 :make for example Nov 16 20:01:29 have to leave Nov 16 20:01:30 bye Nov 16 20:01:40 bye morphis Nov 16 20:01:48 (also that's awesome) Nov 16 21:06:59 ShiftyAxel, did you start a Jenkins build after pushing to master? Nov 16 21:08:25 looks like borabora is busy for a few more hours Nov 16 21:08:58 maybe I can get tahiti to do that build. Nov 16 21:11:18 I didn't increment SRCREV yet, want me to do it now? Nov 16 21:11:34 how much longer are you up? Nov 16 21:12:24 a few hours i'd think Nov 16 21:12:37 though i'm probably (hopefully) going to have some downtime at some point Nov 16 21:12:44 if you do that then lets re-do the queue for borabora Nov 16 21:12:53 tahiti isn't available Nov 16 21:13:32 if I had glacier, turtle, molassas or sloth setup we could use one of them. Nov 16 21:13:50 are these the shiny new ones? :) Nov 16 21:14:18 :) Nov 16 21:20:23 ka6sox-away: okay, SRCREV bumped Nov 16 21:22:22 can you kill the queued qemuarm build and insert a tuna one? Nov 16 21:24:15 done Nov 16 21:24:18 tyvm Nov 16 21:24:42 we should add back in the qemuarm after I suppose...I think JaMa was doing some regressions there. Nov 16 21:25:45 qemux86 is task 4848 of 4902 Nov 16 21:25:48 so close Nov 16 21:32:23 hey Nov 16 21:32:28 * bhuey just woke up Nov 16 21:33:13 ka6sox-away: feel free to drop qemu* from queue and add tuna before it and then readd them Nov 16 21:33:40 JaMa, ya, the x86 is almost done, and put tuna next Nov 16 21:33:49 then get the arm back in the queue Nov 16 21:34:19 ShiftyAxel, did it. Nov 16 21:35:40 hey ka6sox-away Nov 16 21:35:43 hiya Nov 16 21:36:49 how's it going ? Nov 16 21:37:05 very tired... Nov 16 21:37:13 still have 4hrs of driving Nov 16 21:37:52 JaMa, did you blow away the sstate or are these scheduled builds with sstate? Nov 16 21:38:31 ka6sox-away: where you driving? Nov 16 21:39:25 South, towards home...back on the Pacific Plate.... Nov 16 21:39:35 ka6sox-away: yeah took me at least a day to adjust to the drive back Nov 16 21:40:19 bhuey, if I just waited a couple of million years I wouldn't have but about 10 miles to drive Nov 16 21:43:11 uh yeah, 101 is kind of harsh to drive actually Nov 16 21:43:18 it's why I prefer the I5 Nov 16 21:43:35 makes no sense for me Nov 16 21:44:32 eventually I have to end up on 101. Nov 16 21:44:52 today its bad because of weather and crazy trucks Nov 16 21:44:58 ka6sox-away: with sstate, but due to qt4-webos change it will take a while to rebuild that and webkit-* etc Nov 16 21:45:11 ya seeing that. Nov 16 21:46:10 the car has big boxes in it so tough to see out of it. Nov 16 21:46:14 ka6sox-away: yeah I know, but I have to drive through LA Nov 16 21:46:22 so I have way farther to go Nov 16 21:46:24 bhuey, my condolences. Nov 16 21:46:37 uh yeah the last trip took 4 hours to clear through traffic Nov 16 21:46:39 I avoid that place... Nov 16 21:46:39 it was miserable Nov 16 21:47:08 if I had known that it was going to be that bad I'd have gone around it using the 15 instead Nov 16 21:47:11 and 138 Nov 16 21:47:28 it would have added 40 miles to the trip but I'd have gotten there a full 1.5 hours earlier Nov 16 21:49:49 ka6sox-away, psh, i drive into SFO durring full on traffic regularly in the fully loaded F-250 with no ability to use the rearview mirror, its an adjustment, that is all.... Nov 16 21:49:49 ewwww Nov 16 21:50:16 scoutcamper, ya, I understand...but I'm adding the Rain Factor too... Nov 16 21:50:22 CAVU would be no issue Nov 16 21:53:50 NOTE: recipe webos-dev-image-1.0-r0: task do_rootfs: Started Nov 16 21:53:59 love that one...do_rootfs :D Nov 16 21:56:21 w00t! NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 4902 tasks of which 4627 didn't need to be rerun and all succeeded. Nov 16 21:57:44 \o/ Nov 16 21:59:18 I wonder if we used rm_work for that. Nov 16 21:59:47 yes we did Nov 16 22:00:11 kk Nov 16 22:00:41 but that still leave 30G workdir.. Nov 16 22:00:51 JaMa, maybe use SSD for reading/writing SSTATE and the Downloads... Nov 16 22:02:31 on slaves or for milla? Nov 16 22:03:18 oh right. we use Milla....right Nov 16 22:04:43 hmmm.... Nov 16 22:05:14 JaMa, I think we can do this...would need to sort thru a few things. Nov 16 22:08:14 right, whew Nov 16 22:08:24 I have exhibition in a vaguely working/acceptable-looking state Nov 16 22:08:41 though I think the clock's background has to go... it's causing enormous lag due to the scalinh Nov 16 22:08:44 *scaling Nov 16 22:12:29 either that or we figure out why QML is being so very slow... Nov 16 23:35:17 https://twitter.com/shiftyaxel/status/269582654851133441 Nov 16 23:35:28 https://twitter.com/shiftyaxel/status/269583116266528769 Nov 16 23:35:36 SHIT YEAH SCALED EXHIBITION Nov 16 23:38:34 that sounds dirty Nov 16 23:38:57 a scaled exhibition? Nov 16 23:39:29 also, anyone got thoughts on having exhibition trigger on plug charging? Nov 16 23:39:41 since we don't have touchstone on GNex Nov 16 23:39:58 or perhaps a notification that pops up, like the mass storage one Nov 16 23:40:02 I think it should be an option Nov 16 23:40:14 like in android 4.2 with daydreams Nov 16 23:40:32 (which is a shameless copy of exhibition) Nov 16 23:40:35 it is Nov 16 23:40:48 I haven't read up much on it though, how is the option presented? Nov 16 23:41:40 IIRC Setting->Display->Daydreams->...something about trigger on docking, charging, both Nov 16 23:42:11 something == "when to dayfream" Nov 16 23:42:23 s/f/d/ Nov 16 23:42:23 linuxjacques meant: something == "when to daydream" Nov 16 23:52:07 hm Nov 16 23:52:55 personally I'd be down for implementing it as a notification that appears when you start charging, which you can then tap to start Nov 16 23:52:55 though it's a tad less convenient than 'just plug it in' Nov 16 23:58:04 hum Nov 16 23:58:15 is there anything mapped to power + vol up that anyone knows of? Nov 16 23:58:34 it seems to have a system shortcut entry, but all that seems to do is cancel the full erase countdown if it's active... Nov 17 00:01:37 ka6sox-away: cross our fingers Nov 17 00:01:41 * bhuey crosses his fingers Nov 17 00:04:49 hey awesome, I bound screenshot to volup+power key, and discovered this great new feature Nov 17 00:05:07 it's a 720x1280 transparent .png generator, yaaaay... Nov 17 00:18:39 https://twitter.com/shiftyaxel/status/269595274438144000 Nov 17 00:18:58 fixed it, and decided to hack it so I could take a screenshot of the screenshot effect Nov 17 00:25:37 * EricBlade wonders if power + gesture-tap would make more sense than power+volup considering Nov 17 02:02:35 EricBlade: you do make a good point Nov 17 02:02:59 and technically it shouldn't be too hard to implement Nov 17 02:52:11 EricBlade: implemented, though it's locking the screen when I release powert Nov 17 02:52:14 *power Nov 17 02:52:24 odd, given that I hooked up this code -specifically- not to do that Nov 17 02:56:21 ...and forgot how non-static variables work. smrt. Nov 17 02:57:32 alright, excellent Nov 17 02:57:42 screenshots have been implemented into the virtual gesture area, huzzah! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 17 03:00:00 2012