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Nov 18 14:59:04 <ShiftyAxel> morning all
Nov 18 14:59:22 <ShiftyAxel> morphis: I like this latest bug :D
Nov 18 15:02:22 <Isandunk> Morning shifty
Nov 18 15:02:35 <ShiftyAxel> morning Isandunk- I saw your new stuff last night :)
Nov 18 15:02:42 <Isandunk> :)
Nov 18 15:02:53 <Isandunk> I am just about to upload something else
Nov 18 15:02:54 <ShiftyAxel> I'm planning to do a pass sometime soon and put all we currently have into the rootfs
Nov 18 15:02:58 <ShiftyAxel> ooh, excellent :D
Nov 18 15:02:58 <Isandunk> Ace.
Nov 18 15:03:13 <Isandunk> Would you be able to help me understand if it's necessary to be high res?
Nov 18 15:03:18 <Isandunk> it's "normal-bg.png"
Nov 18 15:03:32 <Isandunk> I've recreated it, but at 4x it's 9.5mb :|
Nov 18 15:04:32 <morphis> ShiftyAxel: I hope so :)
Nov 18 15:04:44 <Isandunk> I'm just wondering with 9-slice scaling applies here... it may not be necessary to redo
Nov 18 15:06:04 <ShiftyAxel> Isandunk: looks like that's used for USB mode and the 'you unplugged me, ouch!' screens
Nov 18 15:06:20 <ShiftyAxel> in which case, all we'd need is the native resolution of the target device... hmm
Nov 18 15:06:54 <ShiftyAxel> can you add a new column to the wiki called 'notes' and mark that one as 'large file' or something along those lines?
Nov 18 15:07:10 <Isandunk> Ok can do.
Nov 18 15:07:13 <Isandunk> Thanks :)
Nov 18 15:07:52 <ShiftyAxel> ty, I'm thinking we might have to make device-specific versions of images marked as 'large file'
Nov 18 15:08:24 <ShiftyAxel> aka scale them down before we put them on-device
Nov 18 15:08:32 <Isandunk> Is this something (excuse my ignorance) that Qt can draw?
Nov 18 15:08:38 <Isandunk> or similar?
Nov 18 15:08:50 <Isandunk> It's literally a radial gradient
Nov 18 15:08:59 <Isandunk> with some noise to help dither and stop it banding
Nov 18 15:09:15 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, qt can draw that
Nov 18 15:09:25 <Isandunk> can qt do noise?
Nov 18 15:09:49 <ShiftyAxel> probably- worst case scenario would be needing to implement a custom noise function
Nov 18 15:10:14 <ShiftyAxel> there are quite a few things that HPalm could have drawn programatically but chose not to, it would seem
Nov 18 15:12:33 <Isandunk> I would say that it'd be better to use bitmaps in terms of CPU use, but most Palm devices could have done with more RAM. All these large 24bit PNGs can't of helped :)
Nov 18 15:12:36 <Isandunk> I will upload it in any case
Nov 18 15:13:54 <Isandunk> Also, is there any way to tell whether certain items are obsolete now?
Nov 18 15:15:07 <ShiftyAxel> it can probably be done with some fancy grep-ing
Nov 18 15:15:32 <ShiftyAxel> we should definately have a list of deprecated graphics
Nov 18 15:16:54 <Isandunk> Am i correct in saying that if it doesn't appear in any text based files, that the file is deprecated? I'm simply doing a seach within my OW LSM file for a particular file name
Nov 18 15:17:10 <ShiftyAxel> that's the best way to figure it out, yeah
Nov 18 15:17:11 <Isandunk> e.g: activity-indicator-32x32.png
Nov 18 15:17:13 <Isandunk> kk
Nov 18 15:17:25 <Isandunk> I'll create another table
Nov 18 15:17:50 <ShiftyAxel> tyvm :)
Nov 18 15:25:31 <Isandunk> Is there a filesize limit on the wiki? I can't get that large PNG we were talking about to upload
Nov 18 15:32:27 <ShiftyAxel> I know not... scoutcamper|away?
Nov 18 15:44:12 <ShiftyAxel> hmm, this bootup animation work is going to be interesting...
Nov 18 15:47:14 <Isandunk> Nothing you can't handle I'm sure!
Nov 18 15:47:51 <Isandunk> What controls dockmode; LSM?
Nov 18 15:48:05 <Isandunk> bbl
Nov 18 15:50:28 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, exhibition is part of luna
Nov 18 15:50:35 <ShiftyAxel> Src/lunaui/dock/
Nov 18 17:42:49 <Herrie> I can imagine there's some limit for upload, it's quite normal for most CRM packages...
Nov 18 17:43:15 <Herrie> s/CRM/CMS
Nov 18 18:17:51 <ShiftyAxel> morphis: around?
Nov 18 18:20:07 <ShiftyAxel> I may need some help with the boot animation, looks like it gets spawned as a separate process early in luna boot and then bitblits the boot animation to a gl context
Nov 18 20:08:06 <Isandunk> I've added a column to the deprecated table (on the graphics page), as "confirmed by". I'm not totally sure that what I've found to be deprecated is *actually* deprecated.
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