**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 05 02:59:59 2013 Jan 05 03:34:01 Brace yourselves Jan 05 03:34:34 tag updates are coming Jan 05 03:34:42 :) Jan 05 04:06:00 * _minego braces Jan 05 04:18:20 EricBlade1, of what? Jan 05 04:27:40 luna* Jan 05 05:17:47 i got to play with a nexus 10 today. nice device. Jan 05 05:17:53 it made my touchpads jealous Jan 05 05:18:21 anyone do any research on getting webos on it yet i wonder? Jan 05 05:27:13 EricBlade1, what SoC is that? Jan 05 05:29:53 SAMSUNG EXYNOS GZE003D1 K30F2F200M Jan 05 05:32:41 okay thats reasonable. Jan 05 05:32:49 not some Qualcomm thingy Jan 05 05:34:06 EricBlade1, I don't think anyone has done much research...how expensive are these critters? over $400? Jan 05 05:35:34 they're $400 for the 16 gigger Jan 05 05:35:45 dual cortex a15 Jan 05 05:35:53 isn't it the same SOC as the samsung chromebook? Jan 05 05:35:59 for $250 Jan 05 05:36:36 yep. they're both exynos 5 duals. Jan 05 05:37:28 okay nice... Jan 05 05:38:48 still...at $400 I think we need to wait till we get other things done. Jan 05 05:39:11 (to even look at) Jan 05 05:45:50 we have enough "other" fish to fry that I don't think we want to take on yet *another* device :D Jan 05 05:48:49 nexus 4 plz Jan 05 05:49:01 at least nexus 4 gets almost hot enough to fry a fish on its own Jan 05 05:49:22 moofree, what SoC? Jan 05 05:49:32 qualcomm thingy Jan 05 05:49:38 quad s4 Jan 05 05:49:59 you said the Q word.... Jan 05 05:50:19 is that a bad word here? Jan 05 05:52:06 you can help us decide if we can do that by finding freely redistibutable drivers for all the hardware bits on the device....and a bootloader that will allow us to boot Open webOS Jan 05 05:53:29 are there ANY android devices with freely redistributable drivers for all the hardware? Jan 05 05:54:46 at least the graphics drivers are usually all blobs Jan 05 06:11:47 moofree, if it can't boot what we need it can't be done...so that needs investigating too.... Jan 05 06:15:47 well the bootloader is as unlockable as the galaxy nexus's Jan 05 06:16:09 i've run some custom kernels already, not sure if you need more functionality other than booting unsigned kernels Jan 05 06:18:12 sorry my computer is running uselessly slow taking minutes to switch windows. meh. Jan 05 06:23:43 moofree, are there video drivers we can distribute? Jan 05 06:24:45 other than binary blobs, doubt it... that freedreno project is still early in development, and the adreno 320 is pretty new itself Jan 05 06:29:02 moofree, does the AOSP site have anything, or Google's nexus 4 downloads site? Jan 05 06:30:25 https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/ here's what they've released so far Jan 05 06:33:19 i guess the blobs aren't there, and google pulled the factory image from their page for some reason Jan 05 06:33:22 weird... Jan 05 06:34:17 https://github.com/TheMuppets/proprietary_vendor_lge/tree/cm-10.1/mako proprietary driver blobs Jan 05 06:36:54 moofree: TheMuppets isn't really a source that is used often Jan 05 06:37:15 It's not easy being green Jan 05 06:37:35 moofree: theres more to it then what most people see when they see TheMuppets ;) Jan 05 06:41:05 nothing there suggests we can redistribute any of that Jan 05 06:41:49 except the mk Jan 05 06:45:20 https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_lge_mako oh, cyanogenmod finally Jan 05 06:47:30 err https://github.com/CyanogenMod/lge-kernel-mako Jan 05 08:20:20 ka6sox-away: TheMuppets specifically == not redistributable - that's it's reason for existence Jan 05 15:18:26 morning Jan 05 15:43:47 morning morphis Jan 05 16:08:45 ShiftyAxel: when I change a app on the device do I have to start LSM to see the changes? Jan 05 16:09:56 ah the email app is running all the time Jan 05 16:36:21 morphis: yeah, you do Jan 05 16:36:36 ok Jan 05 16:36:43 I've been toying with some kind of button to clear the app cache Jan 05 16:36:53 because restarting luna to iterate changes is very annoying Jan 05 16:43:34 Morning. Jan 05 16:44:45 <_minego> ShiftyAxel: That would be helpful. Jan 05 16:45:05 I'm not sure if triggering a rescan via luna-send would do it Jan 05 16:45:16 but if so, integrating that wouldn't be so difficult Jan 05 17:08:17 ShiftyAxel: yeah that would be really nice Jan 05 19:45:09 fxspec06, ping? Jan 05 19:46:42 fxspec06_, ping? Jan 05 19:47:29 follow the bouncing fxspec06_ (if you can) Jan 05 19:52:26 he is a man hard to reach Jan 05 20:08:37 Tofe, indeed Jan 05 21:11:28 scoutcamper pushed to patch-1 at scoutcamper/openwebos-ports-setup ... 292cf27 update fixed vommit # of raspberrypi layer. Jan 05 21:11:43 vommit #.. new years eve.. fitting. :D Jan 05 21:15:24 :D Jan 06 01:05:57 does openwebos use python3 to build? Jan 06 01:06:22 (looking for confirmation, actually, thanks in advance) Jan 06 01:26:13 ERROR: Execution of event handler 'oe_import_eh' failed Jan 06 01:26:43 python3, had to remove previously existing symlink Jan 06 01:27:07 installed bitbake 1.14 Jan 06 01:31:47 what's this "bb" command that is used to build? Jan 06 01:32:11 k201, what wikipage are you following? Jan 06 01:34:57 http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus_Build_Setup Jan 06 01:35:04 :| Jan 06 01:38:15 k201, bb is short for bitbake Jan 06 01:39:35 but an alias or something? Jan 06 01:42:02 okay, managed to go through some more Jan 06 01:42:06 now getting Jan 06 01:42:09 ERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf: file conf/bitbake.conf not found in webos-ports/bitbake/bin/ Jan 06 01:42:26 (passed export BBPATH=) Jan 06 01:44:40 what exactly are you running? can i get a pastebin of the entire log? Jan 06 01:47:59 arch Jan 06 01:49:33 scripts look for apt-get, lsb_release, no such thing here.. Jan 06 01:49:44 still, i'm not about to give up. Jan 06 01:50:02 we do not officially support archlinux Jan 06 01:50:44 yeah, you guys are not the first ones Jan 06 01:51:28 it kinda pisses me off, actually. especially when i really dislike ubuntu. Jan 06 01:51:52 ubuntu is easy for us to support, and it is the most widespread. Jan 06 01:53:02 widespread? you mean the people who don't know a thing about linux and won't even think of building their own kernel, will try to build openwebos? Jan 06 01:53:37 oh well. Jan 06 01:53:49 guess i'm out of luck then huh? Jan 06 01:55:00 k201, i am not familiar with archliux so i do not know the answer to that Jan 06 01:55:42 most android devs use ubuntu as that is what google uses in-house Jan 06 01:55:48 (and it has the best support) Jan 06 01:56:01 some use mint, and a few others use arch Jan 06 01:56:09 but imo overwhelming majority is ubuntu Jan 06 01:56:51 spoonfed linux Jan 06 02:02:14 but it was a nice way to evade the subject. Jan 06 02:09:09 and it's to be built with python2, not 3. Jan 06 02:39:21 wow, talk about distro elitism.. Jan 06 02:45:16 and people like that are a large part of what people really hate about linux. well, at least the large part of what aren't software problems. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 06 02:59:59 2013