**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 08 02:59:59 2013
Jan 08 03:00:16 <HaDAk_> i think it just doesn't like loading pages. at all. ;)
Jan 08 03:00:43 <ka6sox> it just hates 80% of the users
Jan 08 03:01:44 * PatrickC makes a mental note to never delete /boot
Jan 08 03:02:14 <ka6sox> could get "interesting"
Jan 08 03:02:30 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, can you try now?
Jan 08 03:02:50 <HaDAk_> trying.
Jan 08 03:03:01 <HaDAk_> not looking good.
Jan 08 03:03:03 <PatrickC> again*
Jan 08 03:03:49 <HaDAk_> failure.
Jan 08 03:03:55 <scoutcamper> hmmmmm
Jan 08 03:04:31 <HaDAk_> (sorry if i'm snippy tonight. neighbor's dog has been barking for 90 minutes straight, and i'm stressed out about a few things.)
Jan 08 03:04:40 <HaDAk_> it's nothing personal :|
Jan 08 03:05:04 <scoutcamper> this just doesnt make one bit of sense
Jan 08 03:05:23 <scoutcamper> cryptk, will have to help when he gets in
Jan 08 03:05:55 <HaDAk_> it's totally down from here
Jan 08 03:06:39 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, can you get to webos-internals.org fine?
Jan 08 03:06:52 <HaDAk_> yes
Jan 08 03:06:57 <scoutcamper> hmmm
Jan 08 03:06:59 <scoutcamper> how odd
Jan 08 03:07:33 <scoutcamper> webos-internals.org and webos-ports.org are on the same server, behind the sme apache2 and varnish instances
Jan 08 03:08:12 <HaDAk_> sorry. not much i can do to help without ssh access :P
Jan 08 03:09:57 <ka6sox> HaDAk_, when the guy who set it up wakes up we will ask him to look and see what is b0rk3n
Jan 08 03:10:18 <HaDAk_> righty-o
Jan 08 03:10:58 * halfhalo bets its not varnish but apache
Jan 08 03:11:05 <HaDAk_> apache is such a pos
Jan 08 03:12:54 <halfhalo> I do use apache for my own php things… purely because my saas uses apache to run php things
Jan 08 03:13:10 <HaDAk_> i use apache for *my* site, but i know how to tune apache to not be an asshole.
Jan 08 03:14:00 * ka6sox looks at the apache logs for Barbican...arrrr
Jan 08 03:14:03 <HaDAk_> i got the page to load just long enough to tell me my 3rd file is up there
Jan 08 03:14:25 <Loudergood> I've seen linksys routers cause this kind of shit before..it's weird
Jan 08 03:14:42 <halfhalo> I'm willing to bet someone else's money that apache is killing php due to either a timeout or file size limit
Jan 08 03:14:49 <HaDAk_> Loudergood: no, they haven't.
Jan 08 03:15:15 * scoutcamper still blames varnish.
Jan 08 03:15:28 <HaDAk_> Loudergood: that's the most ignorant thing i've heard all night. :P
Jan 08 03:15:29 <HaDAk_> well
Jan 08 03:15:38 <HaDAk_> next to blaming my router, and/or my os/browser
Jan 08 03:15:54 <halfhalo> I have a drink router that refuses to go to https sites.
Jan 08 03:15:54 <HaDAk_> my friend, on her phone, in a different state.... is unable to load the site.
Jan 08 03:16:00 <halfhalo> "cloud" router my ass
Jan 08 03:16:08 <HaDAk_> THAT is different.
Jan 08 03:16:26 <Loudergood> well, granted I'm not talking about varnish/apache but IIS..but still I've seen powercycling them solve all kinds of apparently unrelated problems
Jan 08 03:16:31 <HaDAk_> and i bet if you created a socks5 proxy out to a secure ssh endpoint, your https would work :P
Jan 08 03:17:03 <halfhalo> OR, I could use a non crap router.  Only reason I got the drink was it had gigabit ethernet.  And a screen.  But mostly gigabit
Jan 08 03:17:11 <halfhalo> it was cheaper than a standalone switch
Jan 08 03:17:22 <HaDAk_> Loudergood: first of all, i spent a year doing web cache support for barracuda networks. second, i have a networking degree. third, i work for a company t hat touched 80+% of all internet traffc worldwide, and finally, i built my own router. it runs bsd.
Jan 08 03:17:39 <ka6sox> lemme see if things are slammed...jas
Jan 08 03:17:40 <HaDAk_> clearly worth the cost savings ;)
Jan 08 03:17:41 <Loudergood> well, that's helpful
Jan 08 03:18:03 <halfhalo> it went into my box of unused routers
Jan 08 03:19:44 * scoutcamper is one of the few people with ipv6(fake ipv6, 6rd, but still....) thank you linksys router
Jan 08 03:21:02 * ka6sox continues to peruse the logs...looking for *anything* unusual....
Jan 08 03:21:14 <ka6sox> HaDAk_ give me your current IP please.
Jan 08 03:22:03 <HaDAk_> 71.227.127.64
Jan 08 03:26:51 <ka6sox> HaDAk-fireworks.jpg
Jan 08 03:26:54 <ka6sox> this was one?
Jan 08 03:27:14 <HaDAk_> yes
Jan 08 03:27:17 <HaDAk_> there were 3
Jan 08 03:27:27 <HaDAk_> all appropriately named HaDAk-*.jpg
Jan 08 03:28:26 <ka6sox> it is acting like you are not logged in
Jan 08 03:28:37 <ka6sox> its refusing your uplaod
Jan 08 03:28:39 * HaDAk_ blinks
Jan 08 03:28:40 <ka6sox> (apache)
Jan 08 03:28:46 <HaDAk_> why can't i even load the page, then?
Jan 08 03:28:59 <HaDAk_> i'm trying to load http://www.webos-ports.org/ right now.
Jan 08 03:29:51 * ka6sox looks at the state of the internet now....
Jan 08 03:30:06 <ka6sox> its broken as I can't get to about 1/2 my normal sites.
Jan 08 03:31:08 <scoutcamper> hmmmm
Jan 08 03:31:14 <ka6sox> yup....something on the internet...is not right....
Jan 08 03:31:21 <scoutcamper> i wonder if a NAP got messed with?
Jan 08 03:31:59 <ka6sox> It's just you. http://www.webos-ports.org is up.
Jan 08 03:31:59 <ka6sox> Check another site?
Jan 08 03:32:23 * ka6sox suspects the Internet gods are not smiling on HaDak_
Jan 08 03:32:27 <HaDAk_> that check isn't perfect.
Jan 08 03:32:33 <ka6sox> of course
Jan 08 03:32:35 <HaDAk_> it may just try to telnet to port 80.
Jan 08 03:32:39 <HaDAk_> which would work.
Jan 08 03:32:44 <HaDAk_> since we know webos-internals is up
Jan 08 03:34:09 <PatrickC> wha..? i just membooted the uImage-2.6.35-palm-tenderloin and my touchpad just rebooted after it membooted it
Jan 08 03:36:28 <ka6sox> right
Jan 08 03:36:59 <ka6sox> now memboot it correctly
Jan 08 03:38:06 <ka6sox> HaDAk_ any luck?
Jan 08 03:39:15 <PatrickC> ka6sox: i did
Jan 08 03:40:55 <HaDAk_> ka6sox: it loaded long enough for me to load the edit page...now it's dead again. i've got the text, just need to save it
Jan 08 03:41:16 <ka6sox> SBC and Cogent are not happy with each other
Jan 08 03:41:44 <HaDAk_> i highly doubt this is a network issue.
Jan 08 03:41:52 <HaDAk_> since i'm getting very pointed server errors
Jan 08 03:42:52 <HaDAk_> it's throwing database errors. at least i know your server's internal IP now ;P
Jan 08 03:42:56 <HaDAk_> 10.10.10.99
Jan 08 03:43:13 <HaDAk_> it's entirely possible that this is all database related.
Jan 08 03:43:21 <HaDAk_> you MAY want to check the database.
Jan 08 03:44:03 <HaDAk_> from within function "". Database returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (10.10.10.99)".
Jan 08 03:44:13 <HaDAk_> restart the db service
Jan 08 03:44:45 <scoutcamper> i wonder if the user table on our DB got major overflowed by having like 500K users created in a few days
Jan 08 03:44:51 <PatrickC> will the standard uImage boot with memboot if /boot is dead?
Jan 08 03:45:14 <HaDAk_> what's `top` look like?
Jan 08 03:45:33 <PatrickC> that was probably more a #webos-internals question
Jan 08 03:45:48 <ka6sox> PatrickC, nope
Jan 08 03:45:58 <PatrickC> ka6sox: dang.. that's not good
Jan 08 03:46:04 <PatrickC>  /boot refuses to mount to it's mount point
Jan 08 03:51:16 <HaDAk_> is http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/WallpaperContest broken now?
Jan 08 03:52:42 <ka6sox> no
Jan 08 03:52:55 <HaDAk_> i'm getting sql errors trying to load it.
Jan 08 03:52:59 <HaDAk_> are my images at the bottom?
Jan 08 03:53:43 <ka6sox> it wasn't
Jan 08 03:53:49 <HaDAk_> :|
Jan 08 03:54:16 <ka6sox> okay...its borken
Jan 08 03:54:27 <HaDAk_> what're you getting?
Jan 08 03:54:43 <ka6sox> db query timeout
Jan 08 03:54:48 <HaDAk_> yeah.
Jan 08 03:54:51 <HaDAk_> same here.
Jan 08 03:54:59 * ka6sox restarts MySql
Jan 08 03:55:06 <HaDAk_> i'm wondering if it uploads my images as blobs to the db
Jan 08 03:55:09 <ka6sox> (after looking @ the log
Jan 08 03:55:15 <ka6sox> it does
Jan 08 03:55:25 <HaDAk_> they're 24bit. shouldn't be a problem though.
Jan 08 03:56:27 <ka6sox> okay fran thinks it has the load...and pris thinks it is uptodate
Jan 08 03:56:44 <HaDAk_> i asked for `top`, which would give us the system load.
Jan 08 03:56:45 <HaDAk_> :P
Jan 08 03:57:05 <ka6sox> 0.11, 0.16, 0.23
Jan 08 03:57:41 <PatrickC> ka6sox: do u know of a way to recreate /boot (just out of curiosity) google isn't helping. (besides doctor)
Jan 08 03:57:50 <HaDAk_> `free -m`
Jan 08 03:58:07 <scoutcamper> PatrickC, easiest way is doctor.....
Jan 08 03:58:16 <PatrickC> scoutcamper: don't want easy ;)
Jan 08 03:58:27 <PatrickC> i was just wondering.
Jan 08 03:58:31 <ka6sox> memory, cpu, network all fine.
Jan 08 03:58:37 <HaDAk_> PatrickC: extract /boot from the doctor, copy them over manually
Jan 08 03:58:41 <ka6sox> looking @mysql logs
Jan 08 03:58:54 <PatrickC> HaDAk_: /boot won't mount to /dev/block/mmcblk0p13
Jan 08 03:58:55 <PatrickC> refuses
Jan 08 03:59:20 <HaDAk_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2383694/mysql-error-1205-lock-wait-timeout-exceeded
Jan 08 03:59:33 <HaDAk_> PatrickC: will /dev/block/mmcblk0p13 mount anywhere else?
Jan 08 03:59:37 <ka6sox> PatrickC, boot to recovery and novaterm in
Jan 08 03:59:46 <ka6sox> fix the issue :p
Jan 08 04:00:11 <HaDAk_> ka6sox: that SO post suggests it's database content. exporting/reimporting the db may fix it
Jan 08 04:00:25 <HaDAk_> http://kb.mediatemple.net/questions/129/Export+and+import+MySQL+databases#gs
Jan 08 04:00:31 <PatrickC> ka6sox: i've been inside of recoverys for the past few hours, it refuses to mount to it's mount pint
Jan 08 04:00:34 <PatrickC> point*
Jan 08 04:00:43 <PatrickC> so i'm looking for a way to recreate the mount point
Jan 08 04:01:06 <HaDAk_> PatrickC: `cat /dev/block/mmcblk0p13`...what does it spit out?
Jan 08 04:02:49 <PatrickC> HaDAk_: a bunch of unreadable binary
Jan 08 04:02:54 <HaDAk_> good.
Jan 08 04:03:14 <PatrickC> was about to try and recreate the fs.. should i?
Jan 08 04:03:28 <PatrickC> mkfs.ext2 /dev/block/mmcblk0p13
Jan 08 04:04:13 <ka6sox> PatrickC, read thru trenchcoat.xml as that tells you what it does.
Jan 08 04:04:32 <ka6sox> and how thats created
Jan 08 04:05:48 <PatrickC> ka6sox: that wouldn't happen to be anywhere on the interwebs? would it (don't have a doctor downloaded and super slow internet today)
Jan 08 04:06:00 <ka6sox> no
Jan 08 04:06:03 <ka6sox> its in the doctor
Jan 08 04:07:35 <HaDAk_> ka6sox: if i send you the text, can you insert it into the page? it keeps failing to save it for me.
Jan 08 04:08:09 <ka6sox> sure
Jan 08 04:08:31 <HaDAk_> [[File:HaDAk-fireworks.jpg|512px|thumb|left|Fireworks by [[User:HaDAk]]]]
Jan 08 04:08:31 <HaDAk_> [[File:HaDAk-moon.jpg|512px|thumb|left|Full Moon by [[User:HaDAk]]]]
Jan 08 04:08:31 <HaDAk_> [[File:HaDAk-blaze.jpg|512px|thumb|left|Blaze by [[User:HaDAk]]]]
Jan 08 04:09:10 <ka6sox> this assumes the db is going to cooperate
Jan 08 04:09:16 <HaDAk_> exactly.
Jan 08 04:09:27 <HaDAk_> something is seriously messed up there
Jan 08 04:09:37 <HaDAk_> noradtux: glad to see somebody on IPv6
Jan 08 04:10:10 <scoutcamper> i and the znc server i am on are ivp6 :P
Jan 08 04:10:34 <HaDAk_> unfortunately, pfsense doesn't support it yet, so i haven't switched over.
Jan 08 04:10:44 <HaDAk_> their beta does...so when that support comes, i'll be switching
Jan 08 04:10:51 * PatrickC goes to download a doctor
Jan 08 04:11:51 <scoutcamper> my isp has ipv6 at the cisco fiber media converter in the building at work, but the sonicwall doesnt like ipv6 yet so it throws ipv6 away.... :/
Jan 08 04:12:54 <HaDAk_> sonicwall is a joke.
Jan 08 04:14:08 <ka6sox> HaDAk_, how big are your images?
Jan 08 04:14:11 <ka6sox> over 20MB?
Jan 08 04:14:14 <HaDAk_> ~500kb each
Jan 08 04:14:17 <ka6sox> kk
Jan 08 04:14:18 <scoutcamper> meh. it works well enough for our purposes. and it was purchased before i started working there.....
Jan 08 04:14:33 <ka6sox> sonicwall is a PITA
Jan 08 04:14:43 <HaDAk_> one's 1.2 mb
Jan 08 04:14:53 <HaDAk_> that's the biggest one by far
Jan 08 04:30:31 <PatrickC> i guess it's time to doctor
Jan 08 04:31:05 <ka6sox> guess the doctor is IN
Jan 08 04:31:41 <HaDAk_> ka6sox: any luck submitting that wiki change?
Jan 08 04:31:56 <ka6sox> fixing the mysql...
Jan 08 04:32:04 <ka6sox> first things first.
Jan 08 04:32:09 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, https://twitter.com/Scoutcamper_1/status/288502866061164544
Jan 08 04:32:26 <HaDAk_> oh
Jan 08 04:32:27 <HaDAk_> heh.
Jan 08 04:32:36 <HaDAk_> well. good job. keep up the good work.
Jan 08 04:36:31 <BHSPiMonkey> Sorry for asking, but are there N7 builds hosted somewhere?
Jan 08 04:36:39 <HaDAk_> no
Jan 08 04:37:09 <ka6sox> BHSPiMonkey, what are you looking for/
Jan 08 04:37:10 <BHSPiMonkey> Alright, just making sure I wasn't about to build for nothing
Jan 08 04:37:18 <BHSPiMonkey> ka6sox: wanted to give it a spin on my Nexus 7
Jan 08 04:37:33 <ka6sox> ah...lessee
Jan 08 04:37:57 <BHSPiMonkey> Just heard about the port today, seeing what I need to do to get it running
Jan 08 04:38:00 <ka6sox> build is currently broken
Jan 08 04:38:04 <BHSPiMonkey> Ah
Jan 08 04:38:07 <ka6sox> http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/grouper/
Jan 08 04:38:13 <BHSPiMonkey> Not a good time to checkout then :P
Jan 08 04:38:38 <ka6sox> those are the images...follow the testing documentation.
Jan 08 04:38:45 <ka6sox> (when the wiki is back up)
Jan 08 04:39:42 <BHSPiMonkey> ka6sox: thanks!
Jan 08 04:41:27 <BHSPiMonkey> wiki works for me
Jan 08 04:41:46 <ka6sox> lucky you...
Jan 08 04:42:02 <ka6sox> I think we have 1 bad page...(of course its the one we need :P)
Jan 08 04:42:21 <scoutcamper> BHSPiMonkey, the mysql server is having an issue at the moment, so it may go up and down without notice :/
Jan 08 04:42:40 <BHSPiMonkey> Just loaded up all the Nexus 7 pages :P
Jan 08 04:42:50 <BHSPiMonkey> So, perhaps I'm good
Jan 08 04:43:13 <ka6sox> hold onto them tight
Jan 08 04:43:26 <EricBlade> oh dear what'd i walk into now
Jan 08 04:43:29 <BHSPiMonkey> Haha
Jan 08 04:44:16 <EricBlade> earlier it was a big surprise, now it's holding onto something tight
Jan 08 04:44:26 <ka6sox> HaDAk_, try now?
Jan 08 04:44:31 <cryptk> HaDAk, is the wiki working for you now?
Jan 08 04:44:33 <ka6sox> see if you can get in
Jan 08 04:46:08 * EricBlade wonders if anyone has built a system using the tag updates that pushed out today
Jan 08 04:46:16 <ka6sox> broken
Jan 08 04:46:31 <ka6sox> (tried earlier)
Jan 08 04:46:34 <EricBlade> broken?
Jan 08 04:46:54 <scoutcamper> our ipkgudater.bb has an issue
Jan 08 04:46:56 <ka6sox> fixing wiki now...builds later D:
Jan 08 04:47:00 <scoutcamper> updater*
Jan 08 04:47:09 * ka6sox pokes HaDAk_ 
Jan 08 04:47:16 <cryptk> wiki works for me now
Jan 08 04:47:35 <EricBlade> scoutcamper: i believe there was a minor github outage earlier, as around the time i saw that message, i was getting failures on packages too
Jan 08 04:47:48 <scoutcamper> lets find out
Jan 08 04:47:52 * scoutcamper tries now
Jan 08 04:47:54 <ka6sox> this is a self inflicted wound
Jan 08 04:49:21 <EricBlade> 9minutes 54seconds to build webkit. probably half of it spent in linking
Jan 08 04:49:30 <EricBlade> that's celebration worthy.
Jan 08 04:49:40 <EricBlade> i think i'll need to go have some beers
Jan 08 04:49:48 <ka6sox> cryptk, inserts are failing
Jan 08 04:50:21 <ka6sox> 503
Jan 08 04:50:31 <ka6sox> varnish unhappy
Jan 08 04:53:01 <ka6sox> aaaand after the attempt to edit b00m...varnish dead.
Jan 08 04:53:20 <ka6sox> (actually back end dead)
Jan 08 04:54:29 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, its working here
Jan 08 04:54:43 <scoutcamper> :P
Jan 08 04:55:32 <ka6sox> it hates me
Jan 08 04:55:37 <ka6sox> it doessss
Jan 08 04:56:32 <EricBlade> hmm. desktop doesn't build node.js with -j .. wonder if that's intentional
Jan 08 04:57:11 <EricBlade> hmm. yes it does, the build for node.js just acts like it doesn't. must be all dependent on each other
Jan 08 04:57:18 <ka6sox> Aummmmmmmmmmmmmm....(does his guru meditation)
Jan 08 04:58:07 <halfhalo> EricBlade: node is weird.  major parts of it do not obey -j during build
Jan 08 04:59:38 <cryptk> ka6sox, give me reproduction steps
Jan 08 05:00:01 <cryptk> I am putting the fix on pris atm, which si what that page was just for
Jan 08 05:00:08 <EricBlade> hmm. just a hair over 20 minutes from rm -rf ~/luna-desktop-binaries to having a completely new one. not too shabby.
Jan 08 05:00:39 <scoutcamper> EricBlade, on what ungodly machine are you building this on?
Jan 08 05:00:59 <EricBlade> scoutcamper: distributed building :)
Jan 08 05:01:07 <ka6sox> cryptk:
Jan 08 05:01:09 <ka6sox> load page
Jan 08 05:01:11 <ka6sox> edit page
Jan 08 05:01:14 <cryptk> kk
Jan 08 05:01:15 <ka6sox> watch it lock up
Jan 08 05:01:20 <cryptk> I see it now
Jan 08 05:03:53 <panda-z> scoutcamper: i think i've figure out what's the problem is: when i removed boost and boost-build on my machine, libboost build the right ARM arch binaries
Jan 08 05:04:04 <scoutcamper> 0.o
Jan 08 05:04:10 <scoutcamper> iiinteresting
Jan 08 05:04:25 <EricBlade> okie dokie, it's miller time.
Jan 08 05:04:31 <EricBlade> see you all tomorrow
Jan 08 05:04:35 <ka6sox> niters
Jan 08 05:04:52 <ka6sox> panda-z, thats just wierd.
Jan 08 05:07:42 <ka6sox> means build is looking in wrong place
Jan 08 05:07:50 <ka6sox> /usr/lib probably.
Jan 08 05:08:13 <panda-z> ka6sox: the bjam tool is include in extra/boost, so the bb files of boost maybe invoke /usr/bin/bjam somehow
Jan 08 05:10:59 <ka6sox> yup
Jan 08 05:11:19 <ka6sox> that whole boost thing has always been tough to cross-compile...
Jan 08 05:17:03 <morphis> morning
Jan 08 05:17:20 <scoutcamper> morning morphis
Jan 08 05:17:42 <BHSPiMonkey> Man, that rootfs image takes forever to push over adb
Jan 08 05:18:03 <scoutcamper> about 500 seconds on average if i hear correctly
Jan 08 05:18:20 <scoutcamper> i dont have an N7 yet thought....
Jan 08 05:18:31 <BHSPiMonkey> Sounds about right... It looks about roughly 1MB/s
Jan 08 05:18:42 <BHSPiMonkey> Should've used SCP :P
Jan 08 05:24:43 <BHSPiMonkey> Yay, booted. The top bar is pretty cut off though
Jan 08 05:25:22 <scoutcamper> BHSPiMonkey, thus the alpha status of the build :)
Jan 08 05:26:23 <BHSPiMonkey> Yep :) Upon further inspection, nothing seems to work too
Jan 08 05:26:40 <scoutcamper> what do you mean?
Jan 08 05:26:48 <BHSPiMonkey> Can't launch any of the apps, can't connect to my WiFi AP (it doesn't ever prompt me to enter my key)
Jan 08 05:27:01 <scoutcamper> 0.o
Jan 08 05:27:06 <scoutcamper> what build did you download?
Jan 08 05:27:10 <BHSPiMonkey> I can flip through the Apps/Downloads/Favorites/Settings tabs fine, but none of the icons respond to
Jan 08 05:27:16 <BHSPiMonkey> erm, respond to touch
Jan 08 05:27:30 <BHSPiMonkey> Though I can scroll the icon area up and down
Jan 08 05:27:41 <BHSPiMonkey> Build is latest here: http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/grouper/
Jan 08 05:27:55 <scoutcamper> :/
Jan 08 05:27:56 <morphis> maybe broken :)
Jan 08 05:27:59 <BHSPiMonkey> Well, the one with just the plain .ext2 extension
Jan 08 05:28:07 <BHSPiMonkey> No timestamp
Jan 08 05:28:28 <morphis> it's in-development and things are changing fluently
Jan 08 05:28:37 <BHSPiMonkey> Sure
Jan 08 05:28:43 <morphis> BHSPiMonkey: please log into the device and check if WebAppMgr is running
Jan 08 05:29:54 <BHSPiMonkey> My SSH link seems to have stalled, and I can't get in
Jan 08 05:30:37 <HaDAk_> ka6sox: was afk
Jan 08 05:31:41 <BHSPiMonkey> Got it back
Jan 08 05:32:01 <BHSPiMonkey> morphis: no process named WebAppMgr
Jan 08 05:32:10 <morphis> ok
Jan 08 05:32:16 <HaDAk_> ka6sox: still broken
Jan 08 05:32:19 <morphis> BHSPiMonkey: run start WebAppMgr
Jan 08 05:32:33 <morphis> then it should be there
Jan 08 05:33:19 <ka6sox> I know
Jan 08 05:34:28 <BHSPiMonkey> Doesn't help that the usb0 interface goes down randomly all the time, heh
Jan 08 05:35:06 <BHSPiMonkey> morphis: you're quite right, that fixed all of that (including the status bar placement)
Jan 08 05:36:21 * HaDAk_ is going to bed
Jan 08 05:36:24 <HaDAk_> gl with the wiki.
Jan 08 05:38:50 <ka6sox> HaDAk_, figured it out
Jan 08 05:39:03 <ka6sox> your uploads are hozed...and the wiki is barfing on them.
Jan 08 05:39:07 <cryptk> HaDAk, it's something with your images
Jan 08 05:39:18 <cryptk> it can't convert them to thumbnails, but it's only with your images
Jan 08 05:39:45 <morphis> yeah the wallpaper contest is live!
Jan 08 05:39:54 <ka6sox> HaDAk_ reupload them
Jan 08 05:50:52 <ka6sox> 2hrs chasing a ghost.
Jan 08 05:51:43 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, closer to 3hrs
Jan 08 06:05:24 <ka6sox> ugh
Jan 08 06:09:06 <ka6sox> HaDAk_, replace the 3 images...they are bad, the thumbnail parser is choking on them.
Jan 08 14:27:53 <development> #
Jan 08 14:29:35 <ShiftyAxel> # indeed, # indeed.
Jan 08 14:30:21 <development> Haha sorry, have had this open for ages and accidentally hit my keyboard
Jan 08 14:32:01 <ShiftyAxel> not a worry :)
Jan 08 14:32:38 <ShiftyAxel> random unrelated note, looks like bootplate has been updated
Jan 08 14:32:46 <ShiftyAxel> new default layout yaaay
Jan 08 14:33:02 <development> Although, while you're here... I will say I appreciate yours and WebOS-Ports work on OWOS. If I could get OpenEmbedded working at home, I would already be running it on my Nexus 7
Jan 08 14:46:32 <ShiftyAxel> why thank you :)
Jan 08 14:47:26 <development> No problem, I really want to help out but currently, my computer would die if I tried to build OWOS  (It's old) I hopefully will be buying a new one soon and from there I'll do my best to help out wherever possible :)
Jan 08 14:47:38 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, OE is something of a beast
Jan 08 14:47:54 <ShiftyAxel> I build on a 2011 macbook, and my hard drive space is... lacking to say the least >_>
Jan 08 14:48:17 <development> Aha, I have plans for a 3TB HDD and 256GB SSD
Jan 08 14:48:34 <development> That'll be boot drive and build drive, before shoving the image to Backup
Jan 08 14:49:34 <HaDAk|> ShiftyAxel: looks like the wiki quit bitching about those images. i converted them to png this morning and uploaded them…they look fine
Jan 08 14:49:46 <HaDAk|> the thumbnail generator couldn't handle a 24-bit jpg, eh?
Jan 08 14:50:05 <ShiftyAxel> apparently so, but to be fair the wiki wasn't exactly designed for uber-duber quality
Jan 08 14:50:08 <ShiftyAxel> *images
Jan 08 14:50:22 <HaDAk|> yeah, i just dumbed em down a bit.
Jan 08 14:50:32 <ShiftyAxel> development: sounds ideal for OE, that's similar to what I'm hoping to upgrade to sometime :)
Jan 08 14:50:34 <HaDAk|> http://webos-ports.org/wiki/WallpaperContest
Jan 08 14:50:45 <ShiftyAxel> I saw the images, they're pretty cool
Jan 08 14:51:40 <development> Do you suggest sticking to 12.04 for OWOS development then? As I had a lot of trouble setting up a Dev Environment on 12.10
Jan 08 14:52:47 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, 12.04 is our supported OS
Jan 08 14:53:15 <ShiftyAxel> some have had success building on arch with some changes, and potentially other versions, but there are so many distros we can only really support one
Jan 08 14:53:54 <development> Yea that makes sense. I guess I'll stick to 12.04 at home then. (I'm running 12.10 here at work)
Jan 08 15:04:06 <ka6sox> HaDAk_, the Blaze needs the people fuzzed out a bit more...
Jan 08 15:04:12 <ka6sox> too recognizable
Jan 08 15:04:57 <HaDAk|> really? who are they?
Jan 08 15:05:09 <ka6sox> I can't but they could.
Jan 08 15:05:28 <ka6sox> (or friends or relatives etc)
Jan 08 15:05:31 <HaDAk|> i sincerely doubt that.
Jan 08 15:05:55 <HaDAk|> i'd be happy to ask them ;D
Jan 08 16:39:50 <EricBlade> There are people who've made 12.10 work, but for some reason, they didn't send back their changes
Jan 08 16:40:28 <ka6sox> sad
Jan 08 16:40:34 <development> Ahh OK... If I do get it working, I'll be sure to let people know how ^^
Jan 08 16:59:34 <JaMa|off> EricBlade: for build-webos or build-desktop
Jan 08 17:00:16 <JaMa|off> EricBlade: because for build-webos we did send all needed patches few months ago
Jan 08 17:01:37 <EricBlade> JaMa|off: i don't recall having seen anything of that sort .. but probably building it in build-webos takes considerably fewer changes than attempting to build it natively
Jan 08 17:02:00 <EricBlade> i do know that someone has built desktop in 12.10 though
Jan 08 17:02:15 <EricBlade> and i guess if build-webos is working on 12.10 then i guess i'm just complaining about desktop :)
Jan 08 17:05:30 <EricBlade> today i will complain that it seems that ls-hubd is broken
Jan 08 17:06:10 <JaMa|off> :)
Jan 08 17:11:48 <panda-z> actually, it *is* broken in desktop build
Jan 08 17:26:38 <EricBlade> panda-z1: which it is broken? ls-hubd?
Jan 08 17:28:35 <panda-z1> EricBlade: hmm, seems ls-hubd seg fault when launching luna
Jan 08 17:29:00 <EricBlade> panda-z1: looks to me like it seg faults before that, when launching one of the services
Jan 08 17:30:04 <panda-z1> EricBlade: when starting activitymanager service?
Jan 08 17:30:48 <EricBlade> it looks like that
Jan 08 17:30:50 <panda-z1> my ls-hubd seg fault when starting activitymanager service
Jan 08 17:31:18 <EricBlade> curious
Jan 08 17:34:25 <EricBlade> i'm trying to locate a cause, but as of yet, i haven't figured out how to use my own code for ls-2 yet, or if i have to rebuild more than just that package to get it to work
Jan 08 17:36:15 <la_Verge> k
Jan 08 17:52:02 <EricBlade> panda-z1: are you on a completely fresh desktop build, or have you been keeping it incremental?
Jan 08 17:52:33 <panda-z1> EricBlade: not a fresh build
Jan 08 17:53:00 <EricBlade> panda-z1: ok. i had a fresh build from last night, so it's not working on either incremental or fresh. :-S
Jan 08 17:53:44 <EricBlade> assuming your incremental update was prior to the luna-service2 change, which is what i'm guessing broked it
Jan 08 17:56:29 <panda-z1> EricBlade: you think it is the updating of luna-service2 that breaks the build?
Jan 08 17:57:09 <EricBlade> panda-z1: as far as i know ls2 worked prior to that, and now it doesn't .. but that's all i've got to go on at the moment
Jan 08 17:57:25 <EricBlade> we haven't done an activitymanager change in quite some time. there was a db8 change in this set, though
Jan 08 17:57:39 <EricBlade> so, my first guess is ls2, then db8
Jan 08 17:58:38 <EricBlade> service bus init crashes apparently when starting mojodb
Jan 08 18:01:10 <panda-z1> does submission 145 build correctly?
Jan 08 18:01:24 <panda-z1> EricBlade: i mean luna-service2
Jan 08 18:02:46 <panda-z1> er, what i mean is does ls2-hubd crash in submission 145 ?
Jan 08 18:02:53 <EricBlade> :D
Jan 08 18:03:49 <panda-z1> 145->146 is only a few minor fixes
Jan 08 18:05:14 <EricBlade> yeah
Jan 08 18:05:19 <EricBlade> i'm building it
Jan 08 18:07:32 <PatrickC> Morning.
Jan 08 18:08:48 <swisstomcat_> ShiftyAxel?
Jan 08 18:09:34 <ShiftyAxel> morning swisstomcat_
Jan 08 18:09:51 <ShiftyAxel> switched to my tablet and forgot to log backvin...
Jan 08 18:09:53 <swisstomcat_> regarding custom webkit events, are we talking about webkit1 or webkit2 (or both)
Jan 08 18:10:48 <ShiftyAxel> preferably both, but for now let's say webkit1
Jan 08 18:11:10 <panda-z1> time for bed, nite
Jan 08 18:11:13 <ShiftyAxel> unless webkit2 is heading to upstream/master v soon
Jan 08 18:12:10 <EricBlade> i can guarantee that's not in my definition of "v soon"
Jan 08 18:12:49 <swisstomcat_> i've sent an email to the webkit team
Jan 08 18:35:30 <EricBlade> obviously, ls2 needs the upgrade to deal with wam, but ls2 145 doesn't crash
Jan 09 00:45:46 <LarrySteeze> Someone pinged me but my backlog does not go far back enough :-(
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