**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 28 03:00:00 2013 Jan 28 03:01:16 kk Jan 28 03:05:31 kesne, does that give you a clue? Jan 28 03:06:11 ka6sox: Heh, yeah. Well, at least you bring wisdom to the project. Jan 28 03:08:53 when I started...you library (at 5KB) would have been impossible to even LOAD into the computer. Jan 28 03:11:32 when i started computers(age 6 or 7) 20GB was MASSIVE and impossible to fill up! :P Jan 28 03:12:52 the first computer I owned had 64KB of RAM, 2 floppy drives and cost me $3500 to purchase Jan 28 03:13:09 (with printer and monitor) Jan 28 03:13:51 and it ran @ 1.023Mhz Jan 28 03:15:51 the first PC i had was a Dell Latitude CPi Jan 28 03:16:58 at like 900mhz and 128mb ram, running Windows 95 all the way! Jan 28 03:18:09 i learned GW Basic on that machine Jan 28 03:20:53 Geez Jan 28 03:21:24 I'm just glad that's not the case anymore. Jan 28 03:23:28 kesne, I wrote an entire dental office accounting/scheduling system on that computer...eventually putting a 5MB HD on it. Jan 28 03:24:07 I can't even imagine doing that... Jan 28 03:25:48 Today's Programmers are spoiled by the resources they have available...many good things were done with less resources than a 2.5MB backdrop take today Jan 28 03:26:06 s/take// Jan 28 03:26:52 Yeah, I'd agree with that. Jan 28 03:26:56 Also, I have a question. Jan 28 03:27:00 * scoutcamper spoiled :P Jan 28 03:27:38 In the calendar, right now every day page is auto-scrolled to the current time. This makes sense when the day is today, but should it also do that when you're viewing a different day? Jan 28 03:27:52 no Jan 28 03:28:22 it should be the start of the defined "daytime" for that user. Jan 28 03:28:39 * bhuey is about to head out soon Jan 28 03:29:01 bhuey, safe drive...and if you see that cake...leave it in the Rain! Jan 28 03:30:51 kesne: PortsSearch bugs fixed and pushed to master Jan 28 03:31:09 ka6sox: I have new tires which is going to help and thanks Jan 28 03:31:49 ka6sox: So what's the daytime then Jan 28 03:31:50 ? Jan 28 03:31:57 ShiftyAxel: Awesome. Jan 28 03:32:14 ShiftyAxel: Sorry about being pissy earlier today. Jan 28 03:33:13 kesne, every user should be able to define "daytime" in the prefs...so scheduling appointments doesnt' occur outside of their "awake" time. Jan 28 03:33:29 for a graveyard person that might be 9pm-9am Jan 28 03:34:05 ka6sox: functionally, does it change the calendar outside of where it scrolls first? Jan 28 03:34:14 jesne: no worries, likewise Jan 28 03:34:17 *kense Jan 28 03:34:22 kesne Jan 28 03:34:33 autocomplete FTW! Jan 28 03:34:43 Close enough ;) Jan 28 03:34:51 Autocomplete is where it's at Jan 28 03:34:52 kesne, brb...dinner Jan 28 03:35:08 alright Jan 28 03:38:05 right, i really need to sleep now Jan 28 03:38:06 nn all Jan 28 03:38:24 nn shifty Jan 28 03:38:40 kesne, the daytime block has a light shade on the scrim Jan 28 03:38:52 outside of that time block is darker. Jan 28 03:39:22 ka6sox: That's a little hard to do. Jan 28 03:39:28 I'll explain after you come back. Jan 28 03:40:15 type and I will read when I get back. Jan 28 03:44:41 Well, basically, take a look at the UI. The borders between hour blocks have a hole in the border and a time label. Jan 28 03:44:50 If there's a color difference between them, it'll look weird. Jan 28 03:45:23 Also, for the time at the top, should it be in the form "Thursday, January 24, 2013" or "Thursday, January 24th, 2013" Jan 28 03:45:30 With or without the ending after the day number Jan 28 03:47:22 isn't that part of date format based upon locales? Jan 28 03:48:20 kesne, can't a list element have a background color? Jan 28 03:49:07 ka6sox: It will, but because of the hold in the border and how the label is between two rows, it'll look weird. Jan 28 03:49:27 so make them complementary colours Jan 28 03:50:35 Heh, trust me here, it'll look weird no matter what colors I use. Jan 28 03:51:02 ka6sox: Also, should I zero-pad the 24 hour times? Jan 28 03:51:04 okay, we need to come up with something to distinguish daytime and nighttime. Jan 28 03:51:20 I think so. Jan 28 03:51:30 if they want 24hr format make it official. Jan 28 03:52:05 its pronounced oh four hundred not four hundred Jan 28 03:52:53 Alright Jan 28 03:53:03 (trust me on this one...I've seen too many Mid Watches in my day) Jan 28 03:56:55 Alright, added. Jan 28 04:05:02 Hmm, anybody here a css guru? Jan 28 04:17:36 noradtux, ipv6 :) Jan 28 04:19:28 Blah Jan 28 04:19:58 nice to see ipv6 Jan 28 04:20:08 kesne, i know a fair bit about CSS, whats up? Jan 28 04:20:09 scoutcamper: Are you good at css? Jan 28 04:20:13 Ah, yay! Jan 28 04:20:31 Okay, well, here's the problem. If there are two calendar events at the same time, I want to show them side-by side Jan 28 04:20:33 as a website developer its kind of a pre-req :P Jan 28 04:20:46 ok. Jan 28 04:20:52 I don't know a good way to do this consistently. Jan 28 04:20:54 WEll Jan 28 04:20:55 I do. Jan 28 04:21:22 The problem is that the elements are absolute positioned. Jan 28 04:21:34 And I need them combined to span 100% width. Jan 28 04:21:42 cant you set them to 50% of the width? Jan 28 04:21:51 Yes, but I don't know when they conflict. Jan 28 04:22:06 oh Jan 28 04:22:08 hmmmmmmmm Jan 28 04:22:21 this still doesnt seem like a CSS issue, Jan 28 04:22:34 Well, I'm sure there's some way to do it. Jan 28 04:22:44 if it were me i would code it in php, but enyo and php dont get along Jan 28 04:23:18 Heh. Jan 28 04:23:25 i know just enough about enyo and js to be dangerous..... Jan 28 04:23:42 Any ideas though? I tried a flexible box model but for that I'd have to dynamically generate the boxes. Jan 28 04:24:23 that was my thought, do the dynamically generated boxes(how hard is this in your implementation?) Jan 28 04:24:55 I'd have to tell whether to create a new one or insert into one. Jan 28 04:25:02 So I'd have to keep a record of all the created ones. Jan 28 04:25:42 And then then check the bounds of the new div against the created boxes. Jan 28 04:26:05 And then if there's a box there, insert the new element into the box and resize it accordingly. Jan 28 04:26:39 :/ Jan 28 04:27:35 Ideas? Jan 28 04:28:11 no, sorry. i just dont know enough to help here.... Jan 28 04:28:17 Alright, no worries. Jan 28 04:37:20 Okay Jan 28 04:37:28 Loops are my best friend, right? Jan 28 04:42:30 Damn, that didn't work. Jan 28 04:44:19 scoutcamper|away: I think my connection to freenode might be ipv6. Well... hmm... It would be, if I wasn't using a znc system.... but, you probably wouldn't be able to see that because of my host mask... Jan 28 04:46:49 I miss the sonic.net vpn... Jan 28 04:46:50 that is all Jan 28 05:06:16 halfhalo: they don't offer it anymore??... Jan 28 05:06:23 or.. you don't have sonic? Jan 28 05:06:57 don;t have sonic. Have RR, only broadband at my house Jan 28 05:07:13 :/ Jan 28 05:16:35 MOTHER OF GOD. Jan 28 05:16:38 I THINK I GOT IT Jan 28 05:19:56 lol Jan 28 05:27:56 OH HOT SEXY UI Jan 28 05:27:59 IT'S WORKING Jan 28 05:28:08 It's far from elegant. Jan 28 05:28:10 But hey, it works. Jan 28 05:28:22 morning Jan 28 05:31:57 morphis: morning Jan 28 05:32:17 kesne: how far are you with the calender app? Jan 28 05:32:49 kesne, push it to gh-pages? Jan 28 05:33:14 morphis: Working on the UI. Jan 28 05:33:26 ka6sox: In a couple minutes, I'm fixing things I broke in the process. Jan 28 05:33:33 kk Jan 28 05:34:29 kesne: how about the backend? Jan 28 05:34:50 morphis: Not even started Jan 28 05:35:08 kesne: you already looked at it? Jan 28 05:35:41 morphis: A little bit. I'm unsure about a few things. Jan 28 05:35:53 kesne: when we can help, please tell Jan 28 05:36:03 Will this app completely replace the calendar app? If so, will it have to create the DB8 database itself? Jan 28 05:36:10 Or can I assume that it already exists? Jan 28 05:38:13 kesne: I would like that it completely replaces the old enyo-1 based application Jan 28 05:38:26 Okay, then what about the database? Jan 28 05:38:51 you should use the same as the old app Jan 28 05:38:53 you should define databases in the app's namespace Jan 28 05:39:02 lol hmmmmm Jan 28 05:39:08 yeah, other namespace but same layout Jan 28 05:39:16 that! Jan 28 05:39:24 as I don't know how it interfer with synergy Jan 28 05:39:32 welll... wait.. doesn't synergy define something special? Jan 28 05:39:36 maybe we have to name the app internally com.palm.app.calender Jan 28 05:39:37 like com.palm.calendar? Jan 28 05:39:42 don't know Jan 28 05:39:59 I don't even think calendar has its "own" db, per se Jan 28 05:40:15 kesne: You'll need to look at the calendar's structure. I can take a quick look. Jan 28 05:40:37 I should know this... I was hunting down why my Exchange repeating event wasn't repeating... Jan 28 05:40:48 (Until I realized that I never set it to repeat... >.< ) Jan 28 05:42:16 kesne: https://github.com/openwebos/core-apps/blob/master/com.palm.app.calendar/configuration/db/kinds/ Jan 28 05:42:22 dkirker, ka6sox: we should at least have the possibility to reuse some code from the old app (if the new app is licensed under Apache-2.0 too) Jan 28 05:42:37 You'll pretty much carry those over. Jan 28 05:42:40 morphis: bingo! Jan 28 05:43:02 kesne: you'll need to change "owner":"com.palm.app.calendar" Jan 28 05:43:12 kesne: you will release the app as Apache-2.0 licensed? Jan 28 05:43:22 this means we will not want to include com.palm.app.calendar in our images. They'll probably fight! Jan 28 05:43:32 I don't want apps fighting. :( Jan 28 05:44:04 I'll release as anything Jan 28 05:45:23 kesne: https://github.com/openwebos/core-apps/blob/master/com.palm.app.calendar/app/shared/DatabaseManager.js Jan 28 05:45:37 dkirker: once we include the new calendar app we will drop the old one Jan 28 05:45:52 yuppers! Jan 28 05:45:54 kesne: pleae make sure then you add the needed license bits to your app Jan 28 05:47:01 Am I still using the com.palm.calendar namespace? Jan 28 05:47:19 yeah, for the databses Jan 28 05:47:33 You'll want to replicate this structure: https://github.com/openwebos/core-apps/blob/master/com.palm.app.calendar/configuration/db/ Jan 28 05:47:50 but, change the "owner" tag to org.webos-ports.app.calendar Jan 28 05:48:13 pretty sure that should work Jan 28 05:48:44 Alright Jan 28 05:48:51 This should be fun, I've never done this stuff before. Jan 28 05:48:53 though... you may need to modify any existing databases on your device that you are building on... since the owner will likely be com.palm.app.calendar... Jan 28 05:49:04 :( Jan 28 05:50:17 it shouldn't be hard Jan 28 05:50:26 Doesn't look easy Jan 28 05:50:35 Also Jan 28 05:50:42 The DbService kind doesn't exist in enyo 2... Jan 28 05:50:56 :/ Jan 28 05:51:21 I assume that it is an abstraction above luna service calls? Jan 28 05:51:46 why is my computer being slow? Jan 28 05:51:46 I would have to look. Jan 28 05:52:09 correction: why is http://www.openwebosproject.org/ not responding? Jan 28 05:52:42 *sigh* Jan 28 05:52:47 dkirker, dont worry, its not just you Jan 28 05:52:51 the site is down Jan 28 05:53:14 that's what downforeveryoneofjustme.com says that, too :( Jan 28 05:53:22 dkirker: https://github.com/enyojs/enyo-1.0/blob/master/framework/source/palm/services/DbService.js Jan 28 05:53:35 It'd be helpful if someone ported over the needed kinds. Jan 28 05:54:49 didn't someone create enyo.PalmService.* for Enyo2 at one point? Jan 28 05:56:04 or does Cordova provide that? Jan 28 05:57:17 dkirker: yes we have cordova for this Jan 28 05:57:29 and this is what is required to use for core apps Jan 28 05:57:37 there we go! Jan 28 06:01:13 Psh Jan 28 06:01:25 I'm writing the UI to handle it all, so it should work well. Jan 28 06:01:33 It uses the same data structures. Jan 28 06:01:56 So you should just be able to dump in the db service calls and hook it up to the functions that render the events and have it all work automatically. Jan 28 06:02:50 Also, I have no test device to test the service calls on. Jan 28 06:06:15 kesne: looking good! (I downloaded the code from your last commit) Jan 28 06:06:44 dkirker: Glad you think so. Still needs styling work of course, but right now I'm just trying to get the core mechanics working. Jan 28 06:06:59 Getting the multiple elements to render at the same time was a bitch. Jan 28 06:07:08 kesne: ok. We'll have to do something about the no-device. In the mean time, yes to the mechanics. :) Jan 28 06:07:19 Still could be better. Jan 28 06:07:34 Then we can move along to replace things like the "New Event" button with icons. Jan 28 06:07:35 Yeah, I'm just going to get as much done as possible. Jan 28 06:08:04 And honestly... I want us to move away from the boxy Enyo Onyx UI... It depresses me how basic it is (at least it has... erm... style!!) Jan 28 06:08:31 Well I'm using stock Onyx controls for what I can. Jan 28 06:08:40 Sure. That is fine. Jan 28 06:08:51 Do you like the general UI of the calendar though? Jan 28 06:08:55 Anything you would change? Jan 28 06:08:57 yes! Jan 28 06:08:58 I do Jan 28 06:09:05 I am sitting here playing with the day scroller :P Jan 28 06:09:16 Heh, glad you like it. The jump to date also works. Jan 28 06:10:35 nice! Jan 28 06:11:42 kesne: you read "Zen of Palm", right? Jan 28 06:12:31 I did not. Jan 28 06:14:21 you should read it! Jan 28 06:14:33 actually... everyone should read it Jan 28 06:16:36 Link? Jan 28 06:16:38 Is it good? Jan 28 06:17:54 fuck yeah! Jan 28 06:17:56 1 sec Jan 28 06:18:24 wait... kesne google it yourself lazy bitch!! Jan 28 06:18:30 ok, jk. I wanted to say that! :D Jan 28 06:18:42 www.accessdevnet.com/docs/zenofpalm.pdf Jan 28 06:18:50 Hahaha, geez. Jan 28 06:18:59 I'll print it out and read it between classes tomorrow. Jan 28 06:19:11 put it on your phone! Jan 28 06:19:42 Also.... screw Google. You now can no longer right click a link and copy the url... Jan 28 06:21:41 if you do, you get a Google URL that is a million miles long... Jan 28 06:24:03 Printing is where it's at. Jan 28 06:24:16 I hate reading on my phone. Jan 28 06:24:29 Plus, this will let me go to starbucks and look like a hipster. Jan 28 06:24:38 lol Jan 28 06:24:47 I thought using an iPhone was the hipster thing? Jan 28 06:25:16 Admittedly... I am trying to make using a webOS device the hip thing... Jan 28 06:25:31 Real Hipsters Use webOS. Jan 28 06:28:25 Heh, well I'm from Portland too, so that boosts my hipster status. Jan 28 06:28:38 ka6sox: You here? Jan 28 06:28:56 dkirker: http://webos-ports.github.com/org.webosports.app.calendar/debug.html Jan 28 06:29:14 kesne: it does! Jan 28 06:30:06 kesne, so you are only about 6hrs north of me :) Jan 28 06:30:19 OMG! I just ... wait... that is inappropriate content for this chat room... Jan 28 06:30:33 scoutcamper: well, I'm from there. Jan 28 06:30:46 Currently, I'm in Illinois. Jan 28 06:49:26 dkirker: Question. Jan 28 06:50:04 whadup? Jan 28 06:50:18 Can I use an HTML table? Jan 28 06:50:39 It'd save some time in styling, but I know it's generally not the best convention. Jan 28 06:50:39 yeah Jan 28 06:50:45 You sure? Jan 28 06:50:53 It isn't illegal Jan 28 06:50:57 but, make sure it is appropriate Jan 28 06:51:05 what do you want to use it for? Jan 28 06:51:19 The month view. Jan 28 06:51:29 Mostly for border-collapse. Jan 28 06:51:36 I'm sure that is a very appropriate usage Jan 28 06:51:43 Bueno. Jan 28 06:51:44 Thanks. Jan 28 06:52:13 some people are hell bent on forbidding tables. They are also the ones that bitch about using labels in C, or using switch statements. We usually lock them in a room and don't feed them... Jan 28 06:52:18 :D Jan 28 06:52:29 Hehe, alright. Sounds good to me. Jan 28 06:52:49 (I had a professor who hated switch statements. When asked why, he really could not come up with a good reason...) Jan 28 06:54:12 * scoutcamper can think of several people including one professor who need to be locked in that room and the key thrown away Jan 28 06:55:15 oh, we don't throw the key away. We just clank it on the door every night around dinner time. Jan 28 06:55:40 hehe Jan 28 06:56:06 also... I want to build a synergy connector to sync my Calibre library with pReader. :D Jan 28 07:12:10 dkirker: Want to take a peek at the month view? Just to get your general advice? Jan 28 07:13:27 sure, is it up? Jan 28 07:15:11 kesne: like the new day view Jan 28 07:15:42 Not yet. Jan 28 07:15:48 PatrickC: what? Jan 28 07:15:56 dkirker: Give me a few minutes, I broke something... Jan 28 07:16:00 with the current time and eventa Jan 28 07:16:01 Damn g11n... Jan 28 07:16:10 PatrickC: That's up. Jan 28 07:16:16 i know :P Jan 28 07:16:22 i just pulled the latest from git and ran it Jan 28 07:16:24 looks nice Jan 28 07:16:35 * PatrickC wants this calendar on Android Jan 28 07:26:37 dkirker: http://webos-ports.github.com/org.webosports.app.calendar/debug.html Jan 28 07:28:35 kesne: so far, so good! Jan 28 07:28:49 trying to figure out how I feel about side-swiping to change months... Jan 28 07:28:51 ya like it Jan 28 07:29:00 dkirker, just go with it Jan 28 07:29:18 it'll grow on you Jan 28 07:29:30 yeah, its fine Jan 28 07:30:14 What do you mean? Jan 28 07:30:18 You want vertical? Jan 28 07:31:17 Also, there's a benefit to using g11n Jan 28 07:31:21 "It just works" Jan 28 07:31:21 http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/kesne/meanwhileingermany_zps13b58df8.png Jan 28 07:36:35 kesne, see pm Jan 28 07:38:14 kesne, jump to *only* goes out to 2017? :P :P Jan 28 07:38:19 jk :P Jan 28 07:39:51 For me it goes to 2099? Jan 28 07:40:16 huh Jan 28 07:40:23 in chrome it only goes to 2017 Jan 28 07:40:54 Weird. Jan 28 07:40:59 * scoutcamper reboots chrome Jan 28 07:41:02 I'm testing in chrome, I see to 2099... Jan 28 07:41:07 Wait Jan 28 07:41:11 Did you try scrolling it? Jan 28 07:41:14 yeah Jan 28 07:41:30 weird Jan 28 07:41:51 huh. after a chrome reboot its working. Jan 28 07:41:57 Strange... Jan 28 07:42:01 chrome is weird.... Jan 28 07:42:05 That it is. Jan 28 08:54:37 Time to sleep. Jan 28 08:54:41 Before i leave... Jan 28 08:54:43 ka6sox: http://webos-ports.github.com/org.webosports.app.calendar/debug.html Jan 28 08:54:49 Month view! :) Jan 28 09:01:47 I likey Jan 28 09:03:20 ka6sox: What day is the start of the week there? Jan 28 09:05:37 on the pacific plate we start our week on Monday.... Jan 28 09:05:44 can't say for the rest of the world. Jan 28 09:18:19 ka6sox: On that calendar, when does the week start? Jan 28 09:18:44 sunday, which is the common way Jan 28 09:18:53 I am not complaining Jan 28 09:21:44 it looks good. Jan 28 09:21:57 but for the scheduling m-f is the normal way. Jan 28 09:22:02 (a different issue) Jan 28 09:25:45 ka6sox: So the dates are showing up as 24-hour dates, and the week is starting on sunday? Jan 28 09:25:56 That shouldn't happen because it's being localized Jan 28 09:27:00 am/pm and sunday start Jan 28 09:27:49 Oh Jan 28 09:28:06 Did it do 24 hour before? Jan 28 09:39:27 ka6sox: Didn't you test a version that did 24 hour? Jan 28 09:39:57 I was out earlier and was hoping to see that version up on gh-pages. Jan 28 09:40:15 Hmm, I think I may have accidentally broken something. Jan 28 09:42:20 OH Jan 28 09:42:26 ka6sox: Can you test something for me? Jan 28 09:42:50 I can try! Jan 28 09:42:57 (but is 2am and i am fading fast) Jan 28 09:43:32 Well if you can, download the calendar app from the repo and run it locally. Jan 28 09:43:46 And let me know if you get 24 hour time and weeks starting on monday Jan 28 09:44:20 I can try, but beware I'm pretty tired and may make a misteak :D Jan 28 09:44:49 No worries :) Jan 28 09:45:14 git clone https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.calendar.git Jan 28 09:45:22 strike 1 Jan 28 09:45:28 Haha, wrong window. Jan 28 09:45:29 ;) Jan 28 09:52:08 doesn't quite work Jan 28 09:52:17 Let me guess. Jan 28 09:52:23 Correct headings, incorrect number layout? Jan 28 09:52:28 it sees debug.html but doesn't display anything. Jan 28 09:52:34 What browser? Jan 28 09:52:41 chrome Jan 28 09:52:42 If in chrome, make sure you have the flags set Jan 28 09:52:48 see above Jan 28 09:53:23 which flags please...I am not seeing it Jan 28 09:53:52 --allow-file-access-from-files Jan 28 09:54:25 The app assumes that g11n is loaded, which causes errors if it isn't. Jan 28 09:54:50 where do you set this? Jan 28 09:54:59 ka6sox: What OS? Jan 28 09:55:08 OSX Jan 28 09:55:14 If you have a different browser, you can do that too. Jan 28 09:55:29 Do you know how to launch from the command line? Jan 28 09:56:39 okay it appears as if 24hr is not enabled Jan 28 09:56:44 and it starts on sunday Jan 28 09:56:53 the sunday is not a bad issue Jan 28 09:57:04 no 24hr is different than I expected Jan 28 09:57:08 (using safari) Jan 28 09:57:11 Okay Jan 28 09:57:26 In day view, do you see 24 hour or no? Jan 28 09:58:01 am/pm Jan 28 09:58:06 Weird Jan 28 09:58:10 Where are you right now? Jan 28 09:58:24 GMT -8 Jan 28 09:58:32 Maybe that's why? Jan 28 09:58:45 I thought you were in the UK? Jan 28 10:00:02 ha ha ha..not me! Jan 28 10:00:22 ask shifty Jan 28 10:00:34 Oh damn Jan 28 10:00:36 That's right Jan 28 10:00:39 It's too late Jan 28 10:00:53 I need more sleep, haha. Jan 28 10:00:55 Sorry about that. Jan 28 10:03:28 np... Jan 28 10:03:44 I am glad I can now test with the browsers and look at the progress. Jan 28 10:04:03 Yeah, I'll try to keep the gh-pages branch up to date for you Jan 28 10:04:28 thanks. Jan 28 10:04:43 this is helpful as I'm not always near a place I can look at git. Jan 28 10:05:07 I can imagine, yeah. Jan 28 10:05:12 Woo, just got iso calendars working. Jan 28 10:07:12 morning Jan 28 10:07:40 Morning JaMa. Jan 28 10:08:54 ka6sox: Also, try resizing the browser in the month view of the calendar app and let me know what happens. Jan 28 10:10:03 very nhice Jan 28 10:10:07 it scales well. Jan 28 10:10:16 Yay! Jan 28 10:12:26 till you get about 3wide and 4 high..then it goes wonky Jan 28 10:12:40 What do you mean? Jan 28 10:12:42 Screenshot? Jan 28 10:12:49 it will need some floating columns work for portrait Jan 28 10:18:11 http://twitpic.com/byy7w5 Jan 28 10:18:52 Ah Jan 28 10:18:56 I fixed that in a new version Jan 28 10:19:00 Hold on one second... Jan 28 10:21:36 ka6sox: http://webos-ports.github.com/org.webosports.app.calendar/debug.html Jan 28 10:23:49 I'll send you the new picture Jan 28 10:24:51 http://twitpic.com/byy9ok Jan 28 10:24:59 (this with chrome) Jan 28 10:25:05 Try refreshing Jan 28 10:25:16 Because that's not what I see Jan 28 10:25:47 ya, it was OLD Jan 28 10:25:57 and the reduction to SMTWFS is perfect Jan 28 10:26:09 Yay! Jan 28 10:26:17 It also centers numbers and stuff. Jan 28 10:26:25 Basically just looks how it should Jan 28 10:26:32 ya Jan 28 10:26:43 You can also tap a date and it will take you into day view Jan 28 10:26:47 love Sans Serif fonts too Jan 28 10:27:06 okay this is very good. Jan 28 10:27:10 Yeah especially on osx it looks sexy. Jan 28 10:27:18 very much so Jan 28 10:27:24 I just hope there's a skinny font on webOS. Jan 28 10:27:30 folks Jan 28 10:27:35 there is Jan 28 10:27:42 Good good Jan 28 10:27:50 okay I need to sleep...but this is good stuff. Jan 28 10:27:57 Haha, glad you like it. Jan 28 10:28:03 I'll keep working on it. Jan 28 10:28:10 bhuey, you made it to MacArthur Park? Jan 28 10:29:35 okay I need to sleep, falling over. Jan 28 11:27:01 ka6sox: eh ? I'm in LA right now about to crash at a hacker friend of mine's house :) Jan 28 16:48:57 Does anyone have a working image of openWebOS on raspberry pi Jan 28 16:49:13 the git hub has a cluster of code , but not sure what is the image for booting Jan 28 16:49:29 i've *heard* that it runs like garbage Jan 28 16:49:38 i'd be more interested about getting it running on my ODROID-X2 Jan 28 16:50:11 I have konq running but yes qt lib is said to have some problems Jan 28 16:50:29 Dont have one of these , but do have a raspberry pi Jan 28 16:50:38 running raspbian currently Jan 28 16:52:46 raspberry hooks right to my project as well with the RCA plug Jan 28 16:52:53 projector^ Jan 28 16:55:40 factor, have you looked @ our homepage and the report on the Rpi there? Jan 28 16:58:32 ka6sox, tes Jan 28 16:58:41 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi Jan 28 17:00:22 there is no image for booting as building Qt is failing Jan 28 17:01:22 oh ok Jan 28 17:20:28 I guess konq works because it uses qt3 Jan 28 17:25:38 wow, qt3? since 4.1 is almost a decade old .. how old must that be.. Jan 28 17:29:51 older than… the earth itself. Jan 28 17:41:46 i should totally submit some of my cruise pictures... Jan 28 18:09:41 ka6sox-away: kense (damn... I guess he isn't here...): Our work week begins on Monday, but the week starts on Sunday. :) There should be localisation settings for that. Jan 28 18:26:02 Yup I think we need localisation indeed. Also in Arab countries, Israel etc they observe different working days too which should be accounted for ;) Jan 28 18:32:31 for those of you in here who know C++, this a good book/ C++ Primer, Fifth Edition Jan 28 18:36:38 "Effective C++" and "More Effective C++" are really good ones Jan 28 18:37:21 a friend gave me the above book, which is why i was wondering if that was a good one. as a starting point Jan 28 18:37:31 knowing and actively practicing are two different things Jan 28 18:37:46 fxspec06: i will actively practice Jan 28 18:37:48 it* Jan 28 18:37:57 learning for a reason :) Jan 28 18:38:37 Android uses it a ton Jan 28 18:38:44 anyways ka6sox-away idk if i mentioned in here or not, but, i am resigning temporarily as the official mail app guy, at least for the remainder of this school semester Jan 28 18:39:35 this workload is absolutely insane, and biology turned out to be two classes, which means i'm up to roughly 5 classes Jan 28 18:39:57 i hoped i'd have more time this semester but, i don't. Jan 28 18:40:18 =( Jan 28 19:17:35 morning Jan 28 19:17:43 hey morphis Jan 28 19:57:00 Heya Jan 28 19:57:11 hey kesne Jan 28 19:57:25 Hey scoutcamper. Jan 28 20:01:13 scoutcamper: Where are you located? Jan 28 20:01:43 California Jan 28 20:01:55 Ah alright Jan 28 20:27:40 dkirker: You around? Jan 28 20:40:09 PatrickC|Away: Oh, well... I saw a statement, not a question... Jan 28 20:40:12 kesne: not really Jan 28 20:40:26 dkirker: Alright Jan 28 21:04:08 dkirker: oh sorry, meant to put a ? there where the / was Jan 28 21:04:35 ah! Jan 28 21:04:58 it is also too early for me to do any heavy cognative work. :P Jan 28 21:05:04 or spell, apparently? Jan 28 21:05:08 lol Jan 28 22:40:11 hey scout Jan 28 22:40:32 hi Jan 28 22:57:24 ka6sox-away: Ping Jan 28 23:00:28 Anybody here want to give me some UI advice? Jan 28 23:10:43 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167142 .... Jan 28 23:19:34 the price per gigabyte ratio doesn't bode well for me Jan 28 23:20:02 http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-VeloDrive-PCI-Express-Solid-VD-HHPX8-1-2T/dp/B004Z08SH8/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_3 Jan 28 23:20:08 lol Jan 28 23:24:10 or this.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227797 Jan 28 23:24:14 * PatrickC has been hdd drooling Jan 28 23:53:56 ShiftyAxel: Ping Jan 28 23:54:17 kesne: pong Jan 28 23:54:48 ShiftyAxel: What day of the week does the UK use? Jan 28 23:54:50 Sun or mon? Jan 28 23:55:19 mon Jan 28 23:55:37 Can you test the calendar app in month mode for me? Jan 28 23:55:48 In the US the start of the week is sun Jan 28 23:55:59 But g11n should change that to monday for you Jan 28 23:57:43 wow, this is very impressive stuff indeed Jan 28 23:57:50 So it works? Jan 28 23:58:11 it's using sunday, chromium under ubuntu configured as UK english Jan 28 23:58:21 Hmm Jan 28 23:59:34 must be g11n Jan 29 00:02:57 ShiftyAxel: Is it showing 24-hour mode? Jan 29 00:03:51 kesne: no, 12-hour Jan 29 00:04:03 ShiftyAxel: Are you viewing on github pages or did you download it? Jan 29 00:04:10 github pages Jan 29 00:04:16 Try downloading it. Jan 29 00:04:30 I think there's an issues with the ajax requests in gh-pages Jan 29 00:06:28 egh, i'm getting cross-origin errors Jan 29 00:06:34 and i'm in windows... Jan 29 00:06:37 blah Jan 29 00:06:47 are you using --allow-file-access-from-files? Jan 29 00:06:52 If not, use that flag. Jan 29 00:07:05 That'l fix cross-origin errors in file:// Jan 29 00:08:54 kesne: exactly the same result Jan 29 00:10:53 ShiftyAxel: Weird. Jan 29 00:11:02 Can you open the console and run something and tell me the result? Jan 29 00:22:09 Time to try to install ubuntu Jan 29 00:22:10 again Jan 29 00:52:56 ShiftyAxel: Ping Jan 29 00:52:59 I think I fixed it. Jan 29 02:05:16 I have a question Jan 29 02:05:18 For anybody Jan 29 02:08:10 ~asktoask Jan 29 02:08:18 silly a-wol bot Jan 29 02:08:26 kesne, ask away Jan 29 02:08:53 scoutcamper: I have open webos running in ubuntu. Is there a way to install apps onto that? Jan 29 02:09:52 i havent done the desktop build stuff in some time, but iirc you can copy the app into /usr/palm/applications Jan 29 02:10:05 Hmm… alright Jan 29 02:12:11 scoutcamper: Do you know the cordova situation in openwebos? Jan 29 02:12:17 Or at least in webOS port's webOS? Jan 29 02:12:48 we use cordova to tie into device actions. Jan 29 02:13:04 I know that, but I heard something about including it in the OS itself Jan 29 02:13:12 So that individual apps don't need to include it. Jan 29 02:16:36 ahhh Jan 29 02:16:49 im not sure Jan 29 02:17:15 Alright Jan 29 02:17:20 dkirker: Do you know? Jan 29 02:17:28 huh? Jan 29 02:17:40 dkirker: Cordova on webOS Ports Jan 29 02:17:48 I have not used Cordova yet... Jan 29 02:18:07 iirc we will be including it in the rootfs, i dont believe we are doing it yet Jan 29 02:18:08 I heard that it's included in the OS, like Enyo was in 3.0 Jan 29 02:18:14 Alright Jan 29 02:18:52 so for now go ahead and include it with calendar, ripping it out later shouldnt be too hard Jan 29 02:35:06 scoutcamper: ty sir :) Jan 29 02:35:21 hiya dtz Jan 29 02:35:27 hows it going dtz? Jan 29 02:35:30 ka6sox: hey! :) Jan 29 02:35:51 bbl...class Jan 29 02:35:55 scoutcamper: gooood. Busy, but a bit less so :). Jan 29 02:35:59 ka6sox-away: eek, glhf o/ Jan 29 02:36:13 dtz, if you are here in 2.5hrs I'll get back to you! Jan 29 02:36:40 * dtz plans to be here for a good while Jan 29 02:37:23 dtz, got a N7 or gnex? Jan 29 02:39:11 scoutcamper: gnex, yourself? Jan 29 02:39:28 gnex. Jan 29 02:39:44 dtz, you mess with any of the webos stuff on gnex recently? Jan 29 02:40:15 I have not, I regret to report. Jan 29 02:41:01 cmon man. :P get testing :P Jan 29 02:42:30 :D Jan 29 02:54:16 go go gadget woce-build xD :D Jan 29 02:54:32 heh Jan 29 02:54:43 woce is in preware now.... Jan 29 02:54:55 oh?! \o/ Jan 29 02:54:56 to get gnex build you need all the OE stuff that is on the wiki Jan 29 02:55:24 before it was a feed you could add, is it avail in the main feeds now? Jan 29 02:55:58 no, still woce feed Jan 29 02:56:31 scoutcamper: kk, ty. Half the reason I'm building woce-build is because it sounded.... fun. New laptop, doesn't have a copy yet! xD Jan 29 02:56:42 heh Jan 29 02:56:46 kk, and will look at the OE stuff ty :) Jan 29 02:57:20 dtz, building OE on laptop. good times.... Jan 29 02:59:03 heh, is this more of a 16+core server kinda undertaking? Anyway, good things come to those who wait.... Jan 29 02:59:40 dtz, it is a heavy load on my 2600k **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 29 02:59:58 2013