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Feb 24 17:10:27 <EricBlade> well, looks like the android announcement is official, according to verge
Feb 24 17:22:05 <morphis> EricBlade: http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/24/4023106/hp-slate-7-android-tablet-ships-april ?
Feb 24 17:22:30 <EricBlade> morphis: yeah .. drunknbass on twitter is pointing out how amazingly similar it looks specwise to the Go .. o.O
Feb 24 17:34:35 <HaDAk> fuck you, hp.
Feb 24 17:34:50 <HaDAk> sorry. that one just slipped right out there.
Feb 24 17:56:06 <RagingMind> HaDAk, I'm gonna wait to see if *MAYBE* HP provides some help porting webOS to it before I start swearing at them.
Feb 24 17:56:19 <HaDAk> heh. ok then.
Feb 24 17:57:46 <RagingMind> though to be honest... my dream webOS tablet at the moment is http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/11/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet-2-review/
Feb 24 17:58:20 <RagingMind> and yes I know that with current gen SoC Atoms and their GPUs I can just forget about it
Feb 24 17:59:27 <HaDAk> i'm less worried about hardware and more about software at the moment.
Feb 24 17:59:46 <HaDAk> we need more/proper apps before hardware is even necessary
Feb 24 18:01:22 <RagingMind> is there a consolidated list of the state of the core apps and what needs love? (coding wise I have virtually no love to give though)
Feb 24 18:07:31 <EricBlade> RagingMind: as far as what's in Open, what little is there is basically the 3.0.5 apps.  there's not a lot, and other than email, there haven't really been any improvements that i've heard of.  and the browser has some new share functions
Feb 24 18:08:05 <HaDAk> there's no phone app. no texting.
Feb 24 18:08:18 <HaDAk> i blame that on EricBlade though
Feb 24 18:08:22 <HaDAk> like i blame most things
Feb 24 18:08:40 <EricBlade> On the bright side of things, you can basically take any Enyo 1 app that doesn't require exotic system services, custom node services for itself, hybrid plugins, or anything that requires the configurator, and plug them right in
Feb 24 18:09:02 <EricBlade> and honestly, that's most of the enyo 1 apps
Feb 24 18:09:52 <HaDAk> you know, back in, what…08? when the pre was first released… i never would have guessed that in 2013 i'd be this deep into webos
Feb 24 18:10:00 <HaDAk> funny how things tend to happen
Feb 24 18:10:21 <HaDAk> hey EricBlade, did i show you the sketches of the table i was telling you about?
Feb 24 18:11:58 <EricBlade> anything that does require configurator can be hacked in (drop the custom configurator files into their appropriate places in the system, then run configurator manually)
Feb 24 18:12:44 <EricBlade> sketches.. of tables .. ??
Feb 24 18:14:07 <HaDAk> http://cl.ly/image/1t1d0J3f0a03
Feb 24 18:14:15 <HaDAk> i told you about my coffee table computer before
Feb 24 18:14:29 <HaDAk> i just purchased the last component (the touch screen overlay)
Feb 24 18:14:37 <HaDAk> gotta gather the lumber and make it all fit now
Feb 24 18:14:43 <HaDAk> we talked about how i wanted webos on it
Feb 24 18:14:56 <HaDAk> and how it would be PERFECT for that
Feb 24 18:14:57 <HaDAk> etc.
Feb 24 18:15:59 <EricBlade> This I'd like to see.
Feb 24 18:16:14 <EricBlade> Then can we install it in my desk at the office?
Feb 24 18:16:45 <HaDAk> XD
Feb 24 18:16:48 <HaDAk> If you build a desk, sure.
Feb 24 18:17:09 <HaDAk> So, what are the odds you can get webos running on the ODROID-X2?
Feb 24 18:25:45 <ShiftyAxel> pull requests encouraged!
Feb 24 18:28:39 <EricBlade> HaDAk: then not only will everything on my desk run webos, even my desk will :D
Feb 24 18:28:52 <HaDAk> ;)
Feb 24 18:29:07 <HaDAk> ShiftyAxel: i have no idea how to get shit running on embedded systems. it's a mystery to me!
Feb 24 18:32:45 <EricBlade> i'm going to build up a gnex build.. woo.  this'll be painful.
Feb 24 18:33:19 <EricBlade> i don't exactly have the hardware here to build with -j 200
Feb 24 18:35:06 <HaDAk> i have an Atom box you can throw it at ;D
Feb 24 18:35:19 <HaDAk> if it makes you feel any better, i built Gentoo on a Pentium 2 once.
Feb 24 18:51:37 <EricBlade> on the other hand, i guess shared state works pretty well in the nexus build, so it might not be so bad on the cpu, more on the bandwidth
Feb 24 18:52:09 <scoutcamper> webkit and qt will still peg the CPU
Feb 24 18:52:19 <scoutcamper> although i am building on my laptop here at SCALE
Feb 24 18:52:29 <EricBlade> building old webkit? *cry*
Feb 24 18:54:21 <scoutcamper> hey
Feb 24 18:54:35 <scoutcamper> webkit 2 will be good for everyone
Feb 24 18:55:08 <ShiftyAxel> providing it's a little smaller :)
Feb 24 18:55:30 <EricBlade> oh, it's not. it's crazy huge.
Feb 24 18:56:08 <EricBlade> As in "Are you sure we need to upgrade to 64 bit just to compile a program?" "Yes".
Feb 24 18:56:23 <scoutcamper> lol
Feb 24 18:57:50 <EricBlade> I can actually break Ubuntu 11 x86 support using the current webkit-webos
Feb 24 19:00:30 <HaDAk> can't be as bad as compiling android
Feb 24 19:52:05 <EricBlade> so, anyway, if this build manages to complete today (or before i have to leave otmorrow) i'm going to try out my theory on webappmanager having a bigger but more easily solvable rendering problem
Feb 24 19:55:35 <EricBlade> i know a couple of people think i'm crazy :) but i have rarely been wrong so far in my analyses of complex problems
Feb 24 20:15:38 <EricBlade> but, this one i was wrong about, and someone else looked at it, and said "oh, try this" .. so i'm gonna try this instead.
Feb 24 20:41:27 <scoutcamper> EricBlade, mind my asking what you are going to try?
Feb 24 20:41:48 <EricBlade> scoutcamper: completely killing card updates
Feb 24 20:42:22 <scoutcamper> oh? is there a setting for that somewhere?
Feb 24 20:43:35 <EricBlade> not yet
Feb 24 20:44:15 <scoutcamper> ShiftyAxel has a thought for you when he finishes eating
Feb 24 20:56:00 <EricBlade> scoutcamper: i wish i could've joined you guys but i think my lady would've killed me if i hadn't come home for the weekend
Feb 24 21:03:07 <ShiftyAxel> scoutcamper, EricBlade: I've finished eating, but the thought is the same one i put forward yesterday
Feb 24 21:04:11 <EricBlade> was that "probably not worth looking into"?
Feb 25 00:13:08 * scoutcamper waves
Feb 25 00:25:56 <scoutcamper> hey Roy__
Feb 25 00:27:04 <Roy__> Hidey ho!
Feb 25 00:28:28 * scoutcamper hates LAX, no starbucks or other coffee shop in this terminal :/
Feb 25 01:12:11 <Roy__> Which terminal are you in?
Feb 25 02:28:39 <thansen> ka6sox: is there a link showing what does and doesn't work for the gnex?
Feb 25 02:28:48 <thansen> 4g, phone, etc, etc
Feb 25 02:29:05 <thansen> I'm interested in installing depending on how mature everything is
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