**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 23 03:00:00 2013
May 23 03:58:21 <morphis> morning
May 23 03:58:46 <ka6sox> morning already...just seems like I got up 20hr ago....
May 23 11:26:05 <bhuey> folks
May 23 11:26:09 <bhuey> hey ka6sox-away
May 23 14:03:36 <GodGinrai> hey ShiftyAxel, I haven't seen you posting OWO stuff on twitter in a while... what have you been up to?
May 23 16:07:23 <moriger> Hi All
May 23 16:07:41 <moriger> any cool news with the Galaxy Nexus port?
May 23 16:09:09 <scoutcamper> moriger, lots of progress made regularly :)
May 23 16:16:12 <moriger> cool beans
May 23 16:16:33 <moriger> The wiki is quiet, though. Is there a place where updates are posted?
May 23 16:18:31 <moriger> Even if it's just source commits?
May 23 16:18:35 <scoutcamper> moriger, github is a great place to look to see our code changes, and we will soon be posting a list of updates to the wiki
May 23 16:19:35 <moriger> KK
May 23 16:24:31 <morphis> moriger: yes, we're still lacking some publicity work
May 23 16:24:53 <morphis> like having a list of changes on the wiki page
May 23 16:30:34 <morphis> hm, you can just add rss feeds for project not per organization
May 23 16:37:26 <morphis> Tofe|Away: ping
May 23 16:45:35 <GodGinrai> Hey guys, any luck w/ OWO on anything CDMA yet?
May 23 16:46:53 <morphis> GodGinrai: no one tried yet
May 23 16:47:06 <morphis> GodGinrai: but we're interfacing the android ril daemon now so it can be possible
May 23 16:47:28 <morphis> moriger: something like http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/ would help to make our work visible
May 23 16:53:39 <Herrie> Morphis maybe an idea to have a new video up sometime? Not sure what progress was made wrt to graphics accelleration etc?
May 23 16:54:01 <Herrie> Quite sure there are some interesting things that could be told of progress between december and now ;)
May 23 16:54:42 <morphis> Herrie: yes a new video would be great, but someone has to do it
May 23 16:54:44 <morphis> scoutcamper: ^^
May 23 16:55:20 <GodGinrai> morphis: I hope someone looks into it.  I'm on Verizon. <.<
May 23 16:56:15 <morphis> GodGinrai: I am myself not in US so no chance to test this at all
May 23 17:01:12 <Tofe> morphis: pong
May 23 17:01:27 <morphis> Tofe: you found something?
May 23 17:01:35 <scoutcamper> i can do a new video
May 23 17:01:46 <scoutcamper> i am in the ?US and on verizon GodGinrai
May 23 17:01:55 <Tofe> no...
May 23 17:02:05 <scoutcamper> i will try it later tonight or tommorow morphis :D
May 23 17:02:42 <Tofe> "Addressee not available - Will attempt delivery on next working day" -- hopefully my wife should be at home tomorrow, if her plane isn't late
May 23 17:02:55 <GodGinrai> scoutcamper: Are you just stating a fact? Or hinting that you have something in the works?
May 23 17:03:17 <morphis> scoutcamper: ok
May 23 17:03:34 <Tofe> but that won't stop me from debugging that nasty issue
May 23 17:03:42 <scoutcamper> GodGinrai, the way that telephony has been re-done it might 'just work'
May 23 17:03:49 <scoutcamper> GodGinrai, but i need to test it
May 23 17:03:50 <morphis> Tofe: yes, and one N7 we still have other issues
May 23 17:04:12 <morphis> scoutcamper, GodGinrai: its not landed the main branches yet but will soon
May 23 17:04:34 <scoutcamper> morphis, which branch is it in? ill kick off a manual build
May 23 17:04:48 <morphis> scoutcamper: morphis/work
May 23 17:05:07 <morphis> but need it for meta-smartphone and meta-webos-ports
May 23 17:05:19 <scoutcamper> ok
May 23 17:05:23 <morphis> ah and you need the right android binaries for the verizon model
May 23 17:05:37 <scoutcamper> we have those
May 23 17:06:47 <morphis> scoutcamper: yes, but you have to put them into the image
May 23 17:06:52 <GodGinrai> scoutcamper: that would be glorious if the telephony rework made VZW 'just work' :)
May 23 17:07:16 <morphis> scoutcamper, JaMa: we may have to rework the tuna machine then
May 23 17:07:36 <GodGinrai> the tuna machine?
May 23 17:07:39 <morphis> scoutcamper, JaMa: as tuna is the base and maguro is GSM variant
May 23 17:07:47 <scoutcamper> yes
May 23 17:07:53 <GodGinrai> lol, all these fish names XD
May 23 17:08:00 <morphis> and toro is the CDMA one
May 23 17:08:20 <GodGinrai> heh
May 23 17:08:21 <scoutcamper> morphis, let me do some experimenting, if i can get it to work sort-of then we can aybe split the build's to maguro and toro
May 23 17:08:35 <morphis> scoutcamper: yes
May 23 17:08:42 <morphis> but we should do this before any release
May 23 17:08:48 <scoutcamper> indeed
May 23 17:09:02 <GodGinrai> btw, I haven't seen any OWO vids since the Nexus 7 vid in Jan.  Have I missed any vids?
May 23 17:09:02 * scoutcamper has to setup a new build box. will be a few hours :/
May 23 17:09:27 <morphis> GodGinrai: no, we are so busy so we didn't had time to do a video :)
May 23 17:10:15 <scoutcamper> but ill get to one today or tomorow and have it published this weekend, assuming acceleration can stay stable long enough for the video lol
May 23 17:10:28 <morphis> scoutcamper: it can
May 23 17:10:35 <morphis> scoutcamper: but use gnexus
May 23 17:10:58 <scoutcamper> okay
May 23 17:12:24 <JaMa> morphis: yes we can create something like you had with palmpre[12]
May 23 17:12:31 <JaMa> with common base MACHINEOVERRIDE
May 23 17:12:56 <morphis> yes
May 23 17:13:05 <morphis> we have to do it for grouper too
May 23 17:13:25 <morphis> as it's real name is nakasaki and nakasakig
May 23 17:15:33 <Herrie> I thought Grouper was the real name?
May 23 17:15:37 <Herrie> At least thats what CM uses
May 23 17:16:15 <JaMa> morphis: is it only one place where we need to distinguish them?
May 23 17:16:52 <morphis> JaMa: hm
May 23 17:16:54 <JaMa> I'm thinking about adding VARIANT="gsm" in config but that would prevent building images for both variants on same builder
May 23 17:17:00 <morphis> at least they need different android-system-image's
May 23 17:17:23 <morphis> and for example the N7 with telephony support needs telephony stack the other one not
May 23 17:17:55 <morphis> so it would be better if we do a separate machine (which will raise our build jobs/feeds/space/...)
May 23 17:19:12 <morphis> so would be great if we could get at least webkit/qt4 not machine specific
May 23 17:24:56 <morphis> scoutcamper: ah and make sure you don't use the kernel build with the build from morphis/work
May 23 17:25:01 <morphis> take one from our builders
May 23 17:33:20 <scoutcamper> okay
May 23 17:36:05 <scoutcamper> setting build env up now
May 23 17:36:10 <morphis> JaMa: hm, after the last rebase of meta-wop I have a lot of services don't coming up
May 23 17:36:20 <scoutcamper> will do a normal build then will switch branches
May 23 17:36:48 <morphis> JaMa: root@tuna:~# LunaSysMgr -t -c
May 23 17:36:49 <morphis> LunaSysMgr: error while loading shared libraries: libPmLogLib.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
May 23 17:37:11 <JaMa> pmloglib was upgraded in previous rebase iirc
May 23 17:37:11 <morphis> seems like we have to rebuild some component manually
May 23 17:38:30 <morphis> really?
May 23 17:38:41 <morphis> then I didn't rebased locally for a longer time
May 23 17:39:07 <JaMa> and it is in DEPENDS
May 23 17:39:14 <morphis> interesting
May 23 17:40:27 <morphis> hm, but both were rebuild
May 23 17:40:34 <morphis> according to buildhistory
May 23 17:43:48 <JaMa> and new pmloglib is .so.3 right?
May 23 17:44:02 <JaMa> I've already dropped my dylan build waiting for master
May 23 17:47:22 <morphis> yes
May 23 17:51:41 <scoutcamper> JaMa, morphis error: http://pastebin.com/J46Y3mLi
May 23 17:51:49 <scoutcamper> ohwait
May 23 17:51:53 <scoutcamper> thats my fault
May 23 17:51:54 <scoutcamper> nvm
May 23 17:51:58 <scoutcamper> stupid vm;s
May 23 17:52:16 <scoutcamper> forgot to give it ram
May 23 17:53:33 * scoutcamper hasnt been in linux in too long lol
May 23 17:57:16 <GodGinrai> lol
May 23 18:01:12 <scoutcamper> morphis, JaMa, real error on a fresh bone stock build env: http://pastebin.com/ju5ehAXh
May 23 18:03:21 <JaMa> scoutcamper: I guess you want to use dylan branch
May 23 18:03:31 <JaMa> for master you need to update again to fix this
May 23 18:07:46 <morphis> JaMa: hm, even after cleansstate I have LSM/WAM linked against libPmLogLib.so.2
May 23 18:08:44 <JaMa> libPmLogLib.so.2 is still in sysroot right?
May 23 18:08:44 <morphis> there is something different wrong
May 23 18:08:47 <morphis> no
May 23 18:09:13 <JaMa> NOTE: Running task 1200 of 5215
May 23 18:10:34 <morphis> strings /home/morphis/work/wop/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/work/tuna-webos-linux-gnueabi/webappmanager/webappmanager-3.0.0-3+wop+gitrAUTOINC+591367d418e96bc19c5250d7fbb1146919f21a50-r9/packages-split/webappmanager/usr/bin/WebAppMgr  | grep libPmLogLib
May 23 18:10:34 <morphis> libPmLogLib.so.3
May 23 18:10:41 <morphis> so it's linked correctly
May 23 18:11:35 <JaMa> and on target you were using new image?
May 23 18:11:54 <morphis> I though so but it seems something went wrong when flashing the image
May 23 18:11:58 <morphis> so the old was still on it
May 23 18:15:29 <JaMa> but old shouldn't have lsm-pmlog issue anyway :/
May 23 18:16:34 <morphis> ah it was /usr/lib/libLunaSysMgrCommon.so.1 which was still linked against the old one
May 23 18:16:41 <morphis> JaMa: yes
May 23 18:19:14 <scoutcamper> JaMa, dylan branch building now :)
May 23 18:41:51 <JaMa> morphis: lsm-common is also depending on pmloglib, so it should be rebuilt automatically ;/
May 23 18:51:07 <morphis> hm
May 23 19:44:13 <EricBlade1> hey guys, anyone around sunnyvale, if you'd like to grab a beer or two tonight, TL Beer Garden on Mathilda, I'll try to be there around 9ish
May 23 19:47:02 <scoutcamper> EricBlade1, i would love to but i am 4hrs north of you
May 23 19:47:29 * JaMa is 30hrs east
May 23 19:47:52 <JaMa> and about 30hrs west :)
May 23 19:48:04 <scoutcamper> lol
May 23 19:48:13 <scoutcamper> i am in the bay pretty regularly though JaMa
May 23 19:48:29 * JaMa was only twice sofar
May 23 20:24:46 <Herrie> Would like too, but 11,5 hrs east of you too :P
May 23 20:24:56 <ZNC|PatrickC> so, who all backed PIC?
May 23 20:25:04 <scoutcamper> not i
May 23 20:25:10 <Herrie> I did :P
May 23 20:25:14 <Herrie> 75 for 3 licenses ;)
May 23 20:25:15 <ZNC|PatrickC> can i ask why not scoutcamper?
May 23 20:25:19 <ZNC|PatrickC> Herrie: nice :)
May 23 20:25:28 <Herrie> 1 for my daily TP, 1 for wifey's TP and 1 for the spare that's laying around :P
May 23 20:25:38 <ZNC|PatrickC> lol
May 23 20:26:37 <scoutcamper> ZNC|PatrickC, you certainly may. i simply have a hard time trusting openmobl to deliever at any time reasonable. if and when they actually release the ACL for purchase i will buy my licenses, but as a poor college student i refuste to put out money for a product that may be 1year+ from shipping
May 23 20:27:03 <ZNC|PatrickC> gotcha
May 23 20:27:05 <scoutcamper> openmobile*
May 23 20:28:19 <ZNC|PatrickC> i wish i had worked on the project, so i could give reassurance of the timing it is coming, but i haven't been able to work on the ACL project yet
May 23 20:32:00 <Herrie> TBH for the videos I've seen so far, it's not bad at all for an alpha ;)
May 23 20:33:03 <Herrie> Would be good if they could hook webOS kb instead of Android one
May 23 20:35:02 <scoutcamper> ZNC|PatrickC, do you know if the ACL is going to be opensource?
May 23 20:35:17 <ZNC|PatrickC> scoutcamper: not off the top of my head, but i can check
May 23 20:35:28 <ZNC|PatrickC> like i said, haven't touched it much. been more on the marketing side of things as of late
May 23 20:35:57 <Herrie> I doubt it will be open source
May 23 20:36:06 <Herrie> OM would be crazy to make it open source
May 23 20:36:32 <Herrie> All of the sudden they cannot promise to platform x, y and z it IS/WILL BE available, because the hackers would get it running in a couple of days :P
May 23 20:36:44 <scoutcamper> lol
May 23 20:36:45 <ZNC|PatrickC> doesn't seem it's going to be OSS
May 23 20:45:02 <EricBlade1> isn't the android runtime already open source, therefore if it were that easy, Herrie, wouldn't people have it running on everything already?
May 23 20:47:23 <Herrie> Well you need to know HOW to get it building, I'm lacking tht knowledge :P
May 23 20:51:05 <PatrickC> EricBlade1: you have a point, unless it's all compiled java
May 23 20:51:13 <PatrickC> if it's compiled java or c, good luck lol
May 23 21:12:12 <Herrie> Decompiling Java is quite do-able nowadays
May 23 21:12:19 <Herrie> And you get quite pretty and readable code
May 23 22:13:13 <bhuey> folks
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