**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 15 03:00:00 2013 Aug 15 05:54:34 morning Aug 15 06:00:09 Herrie: it's a new icon for a lot of github projects :) Aug 15 06:09:31 Hmmm somebody messed up @ GitHub? Aug 15 06:09:42 I noticed you have a similar icon next to your commits :P Aug 15 06:10:50 I thought maybe it's for webOS on LG's retro look TV ;) http://t.co/RkgquKj2Oj Aug 15 06:16:30 Anyway all good fun to see the guys @ LG confused ;) Aug 15 06:18:59 Herrie, so I'm not the only one? Aug 15 06:19:32 The only one who's confused? No ;) Eric & Roy were too :P Aug 15 06:20:18 You could see an O and W in the 8 bit graphic with some imagination LOL Aug 15 06:25:05 Anyway I'm getting ready for work and head to the office ;) Will try to see if I can get some more wiki stuff done today in between, else in the evening when I'm back.... No IRC @ work, but can read the logs ;) Aug 15 06:27:52 he he Aug 15 07:37:17 JaMa: any idea about "ERROR: ld.so: object 'libpseudo.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored."? Aug 15 07:57:13 morphis: not yet Aug 15 07:57:42 hm Aug 15 07:57:58 I also get it after I've removed tmpdir and rebuild from scratch Aug 15 07:58:22 I've tried to rebuild pseudo-native on bonaire yesterday, but it didn't help Aug 15 07:59:20 morphis: did you reuse sstate-cache from last (dylan) build on your local build? Aug 15 07:59:55 yes Aug 15 08:05:53 I'm trying clean build on bonaire Aug 15 08:18:06 Garfonso: Starting to get better. I hope to look at some of your things later today. Aug 15 08:18:31 Garfonso: and I will need some explanations for sure :) Aug 15 15:57:58 I keep missing stefan_schmidt Aug 15 16:28:41 "We are still working to mitigate a very large DDoS attack. " (github) ... burn those people, burn them! Aug 15 16:30:46 morphis++ Aug 15 16:41:56 JaMa: btw. I will leave us with gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 in parallel for now Aug 15 16:42:09 morphis: ok Aug 15 16:42:50 we need qtmultimedia which still requires gstreamer 0.10 Aug 15 18:17:06 Garfonso: I have some time now to look through your amazing pull request Aug 15 18:17:25 Garfonso: Should I comment directly on the patches in the gitub web intrface? Aug 15 18:37:48 Morphis/JaMa: To what extend this is still actual? Has a lot of references to SHR: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus_Hardware_Overview Aug 15 18:38:01 Do we still need this? http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus_Graphics Aug 15 18:41:52 morphis: What is the default license you use for webos-ports project? Don't want to bring in another one just for the dav sync connector Aug 15 18:42:18 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus_Graphics can be dropped Aug 15 18:42:26 stefan_schmidt: what would you prefer as license? Aug 15 18:42:43 morphis: I normally prefer GPLv2 Aug 15 18:42:54 morphis: But I could be fine with something else Aug 15 18:43:07 I currently use GPL-3 for luna-next as it allows us to integrate A-2.0 parts Aug 15 18:43:15 and OWO is completely A-2.0 Aug 15 18:43:16 I also need to discuss this with Garfonso as he contributed tons of code now Aug 15 18:43:31 as in Apache 2.0? Aug 15 18:43:35 yes Aug 15 18:43:39 ok Aug 15 18:43:55 How is Apachae compared to MIT or BSD? Aug 15 18:44:08 don't know how compatible they are Aug 15 18:44:16 I never used apache myself yet Aug 15 18:44:20 ok Aug 15 18:44:21 as you migh want to integrate code parts from OWO which are Apache-2.0 Aug 15 18:44:30 and thats only possible with GPL-3.0 Aug 15 18:45:19 hmm, you could integrate A-2.0 into other A-2.0 code Aug 15 18:45:25 yes Aug 15 18:45:44 Why would it not integrate well with GPL2? Aug 15 18:46:01 Which worls fine with MIT and BSD Aug 15 18:46:04 works Aug 15 18:48:24 it's not possible to reuse code licensed under Apache-2.0 with GPL-2.0 Aug 15 18:49:04 http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html Aug 15 18:49:07 ok, found it Aug 15 18:49:14 damn patent thing again Aug 15 18:49:16 :) Aug 15 18:49:59 I will wait for Garfonso but I guess GPLv3 is my best bet Aug 15 18:50:37 morphis: Do you know anything about the license for code coming from the webos SDK? Aug 15 18:50:49 I would guess it can be used for anything but I'm not sure Aug 15 18:51:59 stefan_schmidt: I doubt that should be a problem Aug 15 18:52:10 s/should/should not/ Aug 15 18:52:23 ok Aug 15 18:53:00 Now its time to actually look through his pull request. Tons of good stuff Aug 15 18:53:07 morphis: Did you see it already? Aug 15 18:53:26 SDK has docs in there as well with licensing ;) Aug 15 18:54:05 stefan_schmidt: yeah I saw it Aug 15 18:54:06 Herrie: and what do they state? :) Aug 15 18:54:10 morphis: good Aug 15 18:54:19 Lengthy legal stuff :P Aug 15 18:54:24 Herrie: :) Aug 15 18:54:29 GNU Lesser General Public License 2 Aug 15 18:54:43 for SDK code? Aug 15 18:54:46 interesting choice Aug 15 18:54:58 I would have expected BSD, Apache or MIT Aug 15 18:55:16 but well, LGPL works Aug 15 18:55:20 Still interesting Aug 15 18:55:50 WEll they also mention apache Aug 15 18:55:53 That would mean GPLv3 in the end as we could not go apache 2 with lgpl code Aug 15 18:56:03 Herrie: haha Aug 15 18:56:20 "You may opt to apply the terms of the ordinary GNU General Public License instead of this License to a given copy of the Library. Aug 15 18:56:20 To do this, you must alter all the notices that refer to this License, so that they refer to the ordinary GNU General Public License, Aug 15 18:56:20 version 2, instead of to this License. (If a newer version than version 2 of the ordinary GNU General Public License has appeared, Aug 15 18:56:20 then you can specify that version instead if you wish.) Do not make any other change in these notices. Aug 15 18:56:20 Once this change is made in a given copy, it is irreversible for that copy, so the ordinary GNU General Public License appliesto all Aug 15 18:56:21 subsequent copies and derivative works made from that copy. Aug 15 18:56:21 This option is useful when you wish to copy part of the code of the Library into a program that is not a library. " Aug 15 18:57:11 Herrie: thanks Aug 15 18:57:18 Herrie: whats the link for this? Aug 15 18:57:26 THere's a 25 page PDF in the SDK when you install it ;) Aug 15 18:57:32 oh Aug 15 18:57:33 ok Aug 15 18:57:40 will have a look at that later Aug 15 18:57:45 SDK\Share\documentation\legal\Palm_webOS_SDK_Open_Source_License_Information.pdf Aug 15 18:58:19 thanks Aug 15 19:17:14 JaMa: is this "classes/terminal: fix pseudo exiting when launching devshell" the fix for the problem we discovery this morning? Aug 15 19:36:10 morphis: I'm already testing this one on bonaire (and is included in oe-core/webos-ports/master Aug 15 19:45:28 JaMa: ok Aug 15 19:58:44 morphis: doesn't help Aug 15 19:58:53 hm Aug 15 20:00:38 stefan_schmidt: sorry, just came home... I don't really care for the license (or have many clues about them). Any open source does for me. Aug 15 20:01:02 Garfonso: ok Aug 15 20:01:27 Garfonso: I started to review your changes. Some are quite mixed up with different things in one patch Aug 15 20:01:40 Some times fixes aor features. Or also cleanup Aug 15 20:02:06 I commented on the first 7 or so but will have a break now and will do more on the weekend Aug 15 20:02:16 Garfonso: Its really great stuff. :) Aug 15 20:02:40 A bit hard to understand in many areas due to missing knowledge on my side Aug 15 20:03:47 yes, commits are a bit unorganized.. I apologize for that. ;) Maybe also the comments are not always that clear. Aug 15 20:05:27 I know that happens when one is in a hacking flow. Aug 15 20:05:40 Its just hard for everyone else to follow the logic :) Aug 15 20:06:23 I should have more time at the weekend to look through it and also test it against my Owncloud server Aug 15 20:06:44 that would be good. Aug 15 20:06:50 maybe it will just crash. ;) Aug 15 20:07:12 Garfonso: Don't feel bad about any comments. I really love what you did to bring this forward. Never expected this :) Aug 15 20:07:27 Maybe it will. Or maybe it will just work :) Aug 15 20:09:01 Thats it for me today. Will read you guys tomorrow Aug 15 20:09:37 good night stefan_schmidt. Aug 15 20:10:15 I'm also off. good night everybody. Aug 15 20:18:41 Gnight guys, I'm also off soon... Long days, tired ;) Will try to get some proper hours of sleep so I can be a bit more productive tomorrow :) Aug 15 20:41:51 JaMa: you have the issue locally too? Aug 15 20:58:24 morphis: no, I'm trying clean build locally to see if I'll get it now Aug 15 20:58:47 JaMa: I did a clean build and it still comes Aug 15 20:58:54 but only with webos-ports-dev-image Aug 15 20:58:59 core-image-minimal is fine Aug 15 21:01:12 JaMa: thats weird Aug 15 21:01:33 OE @webos ~/work/wop/webos-ports $ cat /home/morphis/work/wop/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/work/maguro-webos-linux-gnueabi/core-image-minimal/1.0-r0/temp/log.do_rootfs | grep LD_PRELOAD Aug 15 21:01:34 ERROR: ld.so: object 'libpseudo.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Aug 15 21:01:37 and the build was fine Aug 15 21:02:53 it's say clearly in the log file: "Logfile is clean" which it does not with the webos-ports-dev-image Aug 15 21:04:59 morphis: do you also have it near systemd call to enable keymap? Enabled keymaps.service for multi-user.target. Aug 15 21:05:11 yes Aug 15 21:05:26 the error is there for both images but it only fails for the wop imag Aug 15 21:08:04 hm I just extracted the log_check parts from do_rootfs of the core image and ran it manually and it gives me the error as it should Aug 15 21:08:56 when I tried to run run.do_rootfs manually I was also hit by http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2013-August/082784.html Aug 15 21:10:17 yeah Aug 15 21:11:04 have it too Aug 15 21:15:20 JaMa: you saw http://arago-project.org/pipermail/arago-commits/2012-October/002425.html? Aug 15 21:16:19 thats helpful Aug 15 21:19:19 morphis: yes, but we shouldn't be running 32bit binaries in webos-ports builds Aug 15 21:19:41 yes Aug 15 21:20:37 see query Aug 15 21:55:01 JaMa: until we find a solution I disabled log_check locally Aug 15 22:02:16 I'll dig a bit more tomorrow, now off to bed Aug 15 22:03:05 yes, it's already too late Aug 15 22:03:53 trying to flash theack newest build, install instructions lead me back to build page. What do I do after downloading cm file? Aug 15 22:18:52 cctoro: cm file? Aug 15 22:19:30 cyanogen mod file... Aug 15 22:20:31 ? Aug 15 22:20:45 which install instructions are you reffering to? Aug 15 22:20:54 http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Grouper_Info Aug 15 22:21:06 ah Aug 15 22:21:23 thats nothing to refer too currently Aug 15 22:21:37 it's work-in progress and we mostly just adopted the guide from the cm guys in order to rework it Aug 15 22:21:55 use this: http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Testing_Nexus_7 Aug 15 22:22:04 both guides will be merged soon Aug 15 22:22:14 ok thanks, appreciated Aug 15 22:23:45 ok, it seems like we're back in the game of running web applications with luna-next: http://files.gravedo.de/CIMG0121.jpg Aug 15 22:23:51 ka6sox: ^^ Aug 15 22:25:40 so I am off Aug 15 22:25:42 gn8 Aug 15 22:42:44 morphis: see "[yocto] systemd support?" sent few minutes ago.. the same problem with libpseudo.. so it's something new... Aug 15 23:02:03 JaMa, a new regression introduced I guess... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 16 02:59:58 2013