**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 08 02:59:59 2013 Sep 08 04:19:14 foo Sep 08 04:19:23 bar Sep 08 04:19:26 hey joshmarinacci Sep 08 04:19:35 oh good. i finally got this client working. Sep 08 04:19:53 hi. I'm trying out webos on my galaxy nexus. wanted to ask a few questions. Sep 08 04:20:00 btw, I used to work for Palm DevRel. Sep 08 04:20:03 this is the place for it :) Sep 08 04:20:06 recognized the name Sep 08 04:20:48 so.. what are the pre-reqs to install the galaxy nexus alpha build shown on the front page of the wiki? just any galaxy nexus? Sep 08 04:20:52 you're doing the auction soon, right? Sep 08 04:20:58 yeah. it starts in a week. Sep 08 04:21:10 got some more donations to auction off. webosnations mugs. some tshirts Sep 08 04:21:13 anotehr touchpad Sep 08 04:21:18 awesome Sep 08 04:21:23 windsornot? ;) Sep 08 04:21:31 sadly no. Sep 08 04:21:40 and no opal. i had to give mine back when i joined nokia Sep 08 04:21:42 that would be so epic Sep 08 04:21:45 aww Sep 08 04:21:49 you still at Nokia? Sep 08 04:21:55 i loved my opal. a bit heavy, but great device. Sep 08 04:21:58 would have been popular Sep 08 04:22:07 yeah. I'm in Nokia research, so I won't be going to MS. Sep 08 04:22:59 so. the gnex. other than unlocking it is there anything special i need to do? flash it with a particular rom. cyanogen? Sep 08 04:23:08 no idea, don't have a gnex :/ Sep 08 04:23:17 ah. Sep 08 04:23:20 * PatrickC just finished his first WP app.. working on update 1 Sep 08 04:23:31 i followed the instructions. Sep 08 04:23:31 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Testing_Gnex Sep 08 04:23:37 it got @NokiaUS' attention without me asking.. was pretty stoked Sep 08 04:23:50 but no dice. it reboots, then reboots again back to android. Sep 08 04:23:55 :0 Sep 08 04:23:58 :) Sep 08 04:24:10 that's no good ;) Sep 08 04:24:16 * PatrickC pokes..... EricBlade Sep 08 04:24:19 once I get webos running I'm interested in helping on the project. Sep 08 04:24:31 I'm no good as a C++ coder, but I can work on the apps. enyo. js stuff. Sep 08 04:24:35 or docs and gfx. Sep 08 04:24:53 * PatrickC has been messing with enyo lately.. Sep 08 04:25:08 wanting to pull my hair out for some. it's been well over a year since i've touched it, and i wasn't good at JS in the first place :P Sep 08 04:25:18 :) Sep 08 04:25:28 working on some PIC stuff Sep 08 04:25:34 enyo is still a great component framework. it needs some love. Sep 08 04:25:55 i saw the webos folks at OSCON. they are still working on it. they said a new release is coming soon. they've just been busy with LG TV stuff Sep 08 04:26:08 nice Sep 08 04:26:37 so, any advice on how to install an image? Sep 08 04:26:50 well, normally on android you just use fastboot Sep 08 04:26:55 but i've never done any OWOS stuff Sep 08 04:27:05 it seems like i just push over the root fs as a single imge, then reboot w/ the right kernel. Sep 08 04:27:08 ah. Sep 08 04:27:23 but, like i said, never done any OWOS stuff, so i wouldn't know Sep 08 04:27:30 * PatrickC looks at the page to see what it says Sep 08 04:27:39 i do a lot of android ROM dev, so i'm fairly decent with the tools Sep 08 04:28:58 ah. that would be helpful. thx. Sep 08 04:30:43 ok, did you push the .ext2 file to the sdcard? Sep 08 04:30:49 in the exact path they show? Sep 08 04:31:50 i tried using the path they show but that path doesn't exist. Sep 08 04:32:03 there is no /storage in root Sep 08 04:32:05 that's why the tool is having an issue Sep 08 04:32:20 so i put it in /sdcard/linux instead Sep 08 04:32:28 ahhhh.. i see the issue.. this was written for pre-4.2.. when they did the emulated storage Sep 08 04:32:47 interestingly, i previously had a different AOSP build (based on ICS) and /storage does exist then. Sep 08 04:33:01 the install still didn't work, so i reflashed completely from Google's standard factory images. Sep 08 04:33:02 what it looks like is this: zImage-maguro.fastboot looks for the folder path of /storage/sdcard0/linux/rootfs.ext2 Sep 08 04:33:07 hmm... Sep 08 04:33:07 though I did put 4.0.1 not 4.2 on it. Sep 08 04:33:24 do you think i could symlink it? Sep 08 04:33:30 possibly Sep 08 04:33:42 let me verify what's on my device Sep 08 04:34:04 it's running Android 4.0.4 Sep 08 04:34:08 but there is no /storage Sep 08 04:34:11 very odd. Sep 08 04:34:22 i could update to jellybean and try again Sep 08 04:41:36 hmm. so i just updated to 4.1.1 and i see there is a /storage dir now. Sep 08 04:46:42 trying again Sep 08 04:47:42 lol.. android is messin with you Sep 08 04:47:43 nope. booted, did something for a while, rebooted, back into android Sep 08 04:48:15 did you use the fastboot? Sep 08 04:48:16 we really need good instructions if anyone's going to play with this. Sep 08 04:48:19 yeah Sep 08 04:48:28 sudo fastboot boot zImage-maguro.fastboot Sep 08 04:48:38 hmm.. no idea then.. sorry :/ Sep 08 04:49:40 interestingly, the nexus 7 instructions are virtually identical, but they say after booting you must do an extra start/stop step Sep 08 04:49:42 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Testing_Nexus_7 Sep 08 04:50:22 i've actually been doing some of my own lowlevel AOSP hacking for another project. Sep 08 04:50:45 i was able to turn off the java/android layer, and bring up some plain OpenGL ES apps written in javascript Sep 08 04:50:52 nice Sep 08 04:51:26 node is very fun to play with on a mobile device. i got into Node during my time at Palm and Iv'e continued to use it at Nokia for internal projects. Sep 08 04:54:26 well, i should probably head to bed. thank you for your help. Sep 08 04:54:39 np Sep 08 04:54:43 and good luck in the auction :) Sep 08 04:55:06 thanks. did you sign up for the mailing list? I'll be sending out an update soon. Sep 08 04:55:20 i don't think i did.. i think my dad did though Sep 08 04:56:43 http://joshondesign.com/2013/08/31/auctionupdate Sep 08 04:58:50 Palm VII?!?! :D Sep 08 05:00:27 yep. Sep 08 05:00:32 and some tungsten devices Sep 08 05:00:41 (palmos stuff) Sep 08 05:00:50 awesome :) Sep 08 05:01:00 any Palm Pilots? Sep 08 05:01:05 also some artwork and other swag i just found in my closet. Sep 08 05:01:11 lol Sep 08 05:01:12 i think the palmVII is the oldest. Sep 08 05:01:22 the Pilot was the ebst Sep 08 05:01:24 man, i really loved my PalmV back in the day. it was just a pretty device Sep 08 05:01:25 best* Sep 08 05:01:42 * PatrickC is also very interested in the 4G TP Sep 08 05:02:14 especially because i do android development for tenderloin Sep 08 05:07:31 tenderloin? Sep 08 05:07:44 normal touchpad Sep 08 05:08:26 i was one of the guys who helped bring CM10.1 to it (4.2 was already ported, 10.1 proved to be a completely different beast) Sep 08 05:08:34 i'm helping out (or trying to when i get free time) on 4.3 now Sep 08 05:10:34 ah, cool. Sep 08 05:10:52 i don't actually have my touchpad anymore. i gave it to my brother in law when he started the cancer treatments Sep 08 05:10:57 CM10.1 is actually very nice on it Sep 08 05:11:55 so, i have to say, I appreciate android from a technical perspective. but it's ugly. i've looked at some themes as well. all so ugly. Sep 08 05:12:21 they are ugly.. but, it's functional and runs games well ;) Sep 08 05:12:24 as well as everything else Sep 08 05:12:29 * PatrickC is more of a windows phone person Sep 08 05:12:33 Lumia 920 all the way! Sep 08 05:12:50 i want a 1020 bad Sep 08 05:15:38 yeah. the 1020 is pretty sweet. Sep 08 05:15:49 you have one? or gotten to use one Sep 08 05:15:55 i've only used one briefly at AT&T Sep 08 05:15:56 i personally love my 620. it's much smaller. perfect size. if only it had a slideout keyboard liek the PRe3 Sep 08 05:16:10 not seen a 620 in person before Sep 08 05:16:21 i'm waiting for the 1520 (when is Nokia gonna use real names? :P ) Sep 08 05:16:31 i don't htink the 620 is sold in the US. maybe Tmobile. Sep 08 05:16:36 it's much smaller. size of an iphone 4 Sep 08 05:16:38 i hope they keep the camera on the 1520 as they have on the 1020 Sep 08 05:16:52 i saw the 1020 proto a few months ago. the camera really is that good. Sep 08 05:16:55 amazing sensor. Sep 08 05:17:00 yeah Sep 08 05:17:06 i know Rich Dunbar has one Sep 08 05:17:15 i never remember the nubmers. i only know the internal codenames like bandit Sep 08 05:17:16 i'm hoping to win his dev contest this month and get myself one :) Sep 08 05:17:41 Bittersweet Shimmer? :) Sep 08 05:18:36 hmm. so now i can't adb shell into my device. it says the device is 'offline' even though i re-activated dev tools when i upgraded to 4.2 Sep 08 05:18:39 erm. 4.3 Sep 08 05:18:50 that's.. odd..? Sep 08 05:18:54 what does 'adb devices" list? Sep 08 05:21:04 0149B33E0E007005 offline Sep 08 05:22:10 looks like my android sdk is out of date. Sep 08 05:22:14 according to stack overflow. Sep 08 05:22:22 ah yeah.. i remember that issue Sep 08 05:22:38 sigh. more downloads. Sep 08 05:22:44 k. i'm out. thanks for your help. Sep 08 05:23:11 np Sep 08 05:24:07 * PatrickC goes to watch videos about Bittersweet Shimmer Sep 08 08:55:40 Morning! Sep 08 09:53:59 morphis: ping Sep 08 10:43:21 morphis: I would like to rename the "id" property of the windows to "winId", so that it doesn't conflict with the QML "id" property of Item. Do you agree ? Are there things to modify apart compositorwindow and compositor classes ? Sep 08 11:08:28 morphis: well, I gave it a try: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/6 and https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next/pull/38 Sep 08 11:16:09 gotta go, see you **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 08 13:25:10 2013 Sep 08 16:41:27 Tofe|Away: sounds good to me Sep 08 16:42:56 Tofe|Away: merged both Sep 08 17:22:11 morphis: thx **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 09 02:59:58 2013