**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 17 02:59:58 2013 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 17 06:12:43 2013 Sep 17 07:53:47 panda-z: ping Sep 17 07:55:21 hi Sep 17 07:56:16 has there been a "userspace" port yet? i.e. using, say, a chroot, of lxc container, sdl framebuffer and the like, instead of a virtual machine? Sep 17 07:56:22 or* Sep 17 08:00:15 morphis: pong. sorry, was busy for new semester this days Sep 17 08:00:48 panda-z: no problem Sep 17 08:01:02 Harzilein: you mean a port to a real target device? Sep 17 08:01:53 Harzilein: or you mean something like github.com/openwebos/build-desktop? Sep 17 08:02:14 panda-z: I just want to ask how far you are with the device menu work Sep 17 08:03:15 morphis: for desktops. i have not been following webos development much since the first announcement the intent to release the sources. i just remember the sdk being qemu-only. Sep 17 08:03:29 +of Sep 17 08:03:35 Harzilein: ok, then take a look at github.com/openwebos/build-desktop? Sep 17 08:03:40 yeah, i will Sep 17 08:03:51 that should be what you're searching for Sep 17 08:08:58 morphis: hadn't worked on this for a while. do we have a simple way to test local changes for cardshell now? Sep 17 08:09:29 yes, we have Sep 17 08:10:04 panda-z: http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Luna_Next#Development_on_a_desktop_machine Sep 17 08:10:18 panda-z: you can also use the emulator for testing Sep 17 08:10:52 morphis: Do the vbox image works for now? If it does, I prefer test in emulator Sep 17 08:11:17 it works Sep 17 08:11:32 feels a little bit rough on some edges but it works Sep 17 08:43:04 panda-z: so you're going to start working or your time is still limited currently? Sep 17 13:02:49 morphis: sorry for delay reply, but i'm really busy this days. I think i'll be not available untill at least Oct. Sep 17 13:04:09 have to leave now Sep 17 13:56:21 morphis: I'm currently working on a little widget, "SlidingItemArea", with which you can slide out an element Sep 17 13:56:38 Will be useful for card and for notifications Sep 17 13:57:51 nice Sep 17 13:58:20 do you guys have anything juicy and interesting you've been working on? i spent a month in europe, so i'm a bit out of hte loop. screenshots would be bonerific. Sep 17 14:09:54 HaDAk: well, right now we're still converging on the new infrastructure for Luna-Next, and some things begin to work. There's a lot to be done, still. Sep 17 14:10:39 i wish i was more helpful than cheerleader Sep 17 14:10:53 but unless you're coding php, i can't code my way out of a wet paper bag Sep 17 14:12:13 Nope, it's still QML/js Sep 17 14:12:31 if you give me builds to test, i can at least do that ;D Sep 17 14:13:50 At that stage, I don't think it's worth testing yet (even if it's always possible to try out the x86 vmdk image) Sep 17 14:15:23 i don't even know where you guys are storing your images Sep 17 14:18:25 https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/tree/master/qml/images and https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/tree/webOS-ports/master/images ? Sep 17 14:32:19 sweet Sep 17 14:32:26 i'll take a look when i get a free minute at work Sep 17 14:44:21 HaDAk: http://files.gravedo.de/luna-next-emulator.png Sep 17 14:44:46 =D Sep 17 14:44:55 you guys are so awesome. Sep 17 14:44:59 i wish i was half as awesome as you. Sep 17 15:00:21 i wish i were exactly as awesome as you, that way if my wish and HaDAk's wish come true i'll bet twice as awesome =) Sep 17 15:00:39 and that screenshot looks sweet! Sep 17 15:22:14 HaDAk: you should take awesome lessons with me! we can learn how to make cool things instead of things that break Sep 17 15:50:43 fx1, HaDAk: you should really try the emulator to see it in real :) Sep 17 15:50:57 morphis: i will, but work stuff first ;) Sep 17 16:43:38 JaMa: ping Sep 17 16:59:13 pong Sep 17 18:05:48 ah, looks like Ubuntu did some kind of similar qml sliding widget already Sep 17 18:06:29 and it looks like they used the same technique (not a Flickable, but a MouseArea with drag); so I guess I'm on good track Sep 17 18:13:04 JaMa: I already solved the issue :) Sep 17 18:13:14 Tofe: we can import anything from Ubuntu if you want Sep 17 18:16:14 morphis: is the license compatible with our GPLv3 ? Sep 17 18:16:25 they're using GPLv3 Sep 17 18:17:06 Oh. Ok. Well, anyway to reuse one Ubuntu QML component I would have almost to fetch the whole thing, it's quite not worth it for now. Sep 17 18:18:03 :) Sep 17 18:18:17 it's a option Sep 17 18:38:27 Tofe: btw. I did a first sketch on implementing the back gesture Sep 17 19:31:18 ah no Sep 17 19:31:22 github is offline again ... Sep 17 19:51:47 morphis: going to look into the maliit thing now. Sep 17 19:52:41 morphis: You would prefer a bbappend in meta-webos-ports? Sep 17 20:19:30 morphis: oh, that's good Sep 17 20:23:19 stefan_schmidt: we can also import maliit completely into meta-webos-ports Sep 17 20:23:35 stefan_schmidt: I am not sure how it fits into meta-oe anymore because of the qt5 dependency Sep 17 20:23:45 morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/10 <-- that should facilitate a (very) little bit some future additions to the gesture area, as it is now managed specifically by the window manager Sep 17 20:24:12 morphis: well, only our mallit would have the qt5 dep. The meta-oe maliit would still be qt4 Sep 17 20:24:26 morphis: working on the bbappends right now Sep 17 20:25:05 Hmm, is there anything else needed besides creating the directory and matching bbappend files? Sep 17 20:25:09 NOTE: ['/data/WebOS/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/meta-webos-ports/recipes-support/maliit/maliit-framework_git.bbappend'] to [] Sep 17 20:25:12 morphis: also, at some point I should begin thinking about how to integrate the virtual keyboard and JustType, I guess Sep 17 20:25:13 That does not look right Sep 17 20:33:45 stefan_schmidt: no, that should just work Sep 17 20:34:19 you can check with bitbake-layers too Sep 17 20:34:40 Tofe: merged Sep 17 20:34:44 all this new things :) Sep 17 20:34:48 will do Sep 17 20:35:38 :) Sep 17 20:35:43 ok, have to leave Sep 17 20:35:51 stefan_schmidt: but lets go with a bbappend for now Sep 17 20:36:09 morphis: thx Sep 17 20:36:10 morphis: ok Sep 17 20:36:15 gn8 Sep 17 20:36:19 nite **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 18 03:00:00 2013